Hi,

Yup,

This stuff is usually hard to pin down.  It could be 1 app, multiple apps, the 
OS, or hardware.  It can even just be false perception in some cases.  I did 
indeed notice a lessoning of battery life early on with IOS 7 but, it seems to 
have normalized to something comprable to what I was getting in IOS 6.

Ricardo Walker
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Twitter:@apple2thecore
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On Sep 24, 2013, at 11:01 PM, Tim Kilburn <kilbur...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I'm not sure why many are having battery life issues with iOS 7.  I really 
> haven't noticed a significant difference from iOS 6 to 7.  I'm not on my 
> iPhone all day but fairly often in my opinion, have Mail Push and Fetch set 
> to Manual, don't always close every app when I should, have FaceBook, 
> Calendar and a few other apps set to notify me even in the locked screen, 
> work in buildings with lots of block walls which affect signal strength and 
> numerous other normal iPhone usage factors.  An, I usually get over 48 hours 
> of battery life on my iPhone 5.  I'm not convinced that these problems are 
> necessarily an issue that an iOS update will fix, although, I could very well 
> be mistaken.  All concerns raised here are valid and that's kind of why we 
> have this list.
> 
> So, what am I rambling on for?  Don't jump to conclusions, keep asking 
> questions, keep supplying helpful answers, keep investigating to determine 
> answers and your iPhone experience should remain positive.
> 
> That's my nickel's worth, we don't have pennies anymore so 2 cents is an 
> obsolete amount.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On 2013-09-24, at 5:09 PM, Taylor Scott <taylor9...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Coming in late to this thread.
>> I personally don't have a battery issue with Ios7, on a 4, and 5...
>> What are the usage stats saying?
>> Useage and standby times?
>> 
>> Also, has the people experiencing the drainage tried doing a complete
>> restore, and not restoring?
>> I.E, do a restore, and then do not sync your device for a day or 2 to
>> see if the battery acts any different?
>> 
>> 
>> On 9/24/13, Christine Grassman <cgrassman1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I think that Ricardo is spot on with respect to past updates, but not this
>>> time.  In fact, several sighted friends and relatives have been making the
>>> same complaints -- I wonder if that means their sighted peers who do not
>>> seem to be having a battery issue will consider them paranoid, recklessly
>>> screaming drama queens.  Ricardo's post was respectful and level-headed, and
>>> worth considering.  However, to suggest that those of us who are reporting
>>> serious battery drain  are  predicting the imminent collapse of the earth
>>> and that we are at risk of giving blind people a bad reputation is absurd,
>>> offensive, and uncalled-for.
>>> Christine
>>> On Sep 24, 2013, at 6:36 PM, CJ Daniel <cj.bear.dan...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Riccardo,
>>>> 
>>>> Way to stay level-headed, assess the data, & not scream "the sky is
>>>> falling!  The sky is falling!"  If you keep this up, you'll give blind
>>>> folks a good reputation.
>>>> 
>>>> Seriously, some good points,
>>>> 
>>>> CJ
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Sep 23, 2013, at 10:03 PM, Ricardo Walker <rwalker...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> lol,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi.  I kid you not, I see this with every, single, major update to IOS.
>>>>> a bunch of people start complaining on how terrible their battery life
>>>>> is.  Now, before anyone gets upset, I’m not saying some cases aren’t
>>>>> genuine.  But, the overwhelming majority are not.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Let us step back and think what happens when we get a major update.  For
>>>>> the majority of us, usage goes up.  At least in the short term.  If there
>>>>> was a chart out there, I bet you would see a usage spike right after
>>>>> major updates.  Everyone wants to check out all the new features,
>>>>> improvements, etc.  So naturally, the battery is getting used a whole lot
>>>>> more.  At least, more than you normally do.  Give it 1 month.  95% of bad
>>>>> battery claims will mysteriously go away.  If you want, do a google
>>>>> search for battery issues going back the last 5 years.  There all about
>>>>> updates that kill battery life.  But yet, you rarely ever find this in
>>>>> the middle of a refresh cycle for the OS.  I know, some will say “That’s
>>>>> because Apple has fixed the battery  trouble with minor maintenance
>>>>> updates.”  This could be true.  But, only once, in 5 years of using IOS
>>>>> do I remember Apple putting out an update that specifically mentioned
>>>>> fixing a battery issue.
>>>>> 
>>>>> JMO.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ricardo Walker
>>>>> rica...@appletothecore.info
>>>>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
>>>>> www.appletothecore.info
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Sep 23, 2013, at 2:26 PM, Brian Fischler <blindga...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> So in another words just turn everything off. Kidding, but this is a
>>>>>> serious issue and I find it a little troubling that Apple didn't think a
>>>>>> battery issue for Voiceover users was serious enough to address before
>>>>>> the release. This issue has definitely stopped me from running out to
>>>>>> buy a 5S. I am sure there will eventually be a fix, but Voiceover fixes
>>>>>> always seem to roll out very slowly. I have turned my screen brightness
>>>>>> down, always use my screen curtain but have heard conflicting reports on
>>>>>> whether this affects battery life. I have turned off location services
>>>>>> for those apps that don't need it, monitored what is in the app
>>>>>> switcher, turned off apps refreshing in the background, and I am sure I
>>>>>> am forgetting a few other things I have turned off. I do like IOS 7 but
>>>>>> the battery issue and VO not working very well in lists for Downcast and
>>>>>> my RSS feeds is very annoying as in IOS 6 you could quickly delta items
>>>>>> as VO would drop you on the next item after swiping to delete something.
>>>>>> This does not work in IOS 7 if you swipe right it jumps two items, and
>>>>>> VO constantly loses focus in these apps. Oh well.
>>>>>> On Sep 22, 2013, at 7:14 PM, Tim Kilburn <kilbur...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Can't recall if this was mentioned yet.  If you set your iPhone to Push
>>>>>>> and/or Fetch Mail less often.  Actually, I just have mine set to grab
>>>>>>> Mail when I go into the Mail app as I don't care for it giving me
>>>>>>> alerts constantly when in meetings and such.  I tend to get 48 to 72
>>>>>>> hours out of my iPhone 5 even on iOS 7.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Later...
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Tim Kilburn
>>>>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 2013-09-22, at 1:45 PM, Ricardo Walker <rwalker...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Turning screen curtain on does not save battery.  This came straight
>>>>>>>> from Apple btw.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Ricardo Walker
>>>>>>>> rica...@appletothecore.info
>>>>>>>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
>>>>>>>> www.appletothecore.info
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Sep 22, 2013, at 2:37 PM, Eugenia Firth <gigifi...@me.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi again
>>>>>>>>> The other thing I did which I forgot to mention that saves battery
>>>>>>>>> power on my iPhone is to turn screen curtain on. That way my battery
>>>>>>>>> is not running my screen, and I only turn my screen on when I really
>>>>>>>>> need it.
>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>> Gigi
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 21, 2013, at 7:22 PM, Eugenia Firth <gigifi...@me.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> my email was coming in every time I got one, and it was gobbling up
>>>>>>>>>> battery power for breakfast. I don't have that problem so much
>>>>>>>>>> anymore.
>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>> Gigi Hi guys
>>>>>>>>>> I have a for S iPhone. I have done two things which is made a huge
>>>>>>>>>> difference to my battery life on my iPhone. First, I turned off
>>>>>>>>>> Bluetooth and only turn it on when I need it. Secondly, I set my
>>>>>>>>>> email to download only manually.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 21, 2013, at 4:01 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu <kawa...@me.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm waiting for my 5S as I believe when there is a major update,
>>>>>>>>>>> Battery life on the 5 and lower drains as my theory is if that
>>>>>>>>>>> didn't happen Apple would not get people to buy the new phones on
>>>>>>>>>>> Offer.  As I have sold my current phone, and once I get my new one,
>>>>>>>>>>> I've decided not to update for now so it'll all be new to me when
>>>>>>>>>>> the phone finally comes to me from the Apple store.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Kawal.
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 21 Sep 2013, at 20:28, May and Noah <mcdonald....@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Wow speaking of battery life since I had a battery issue not long
>>>>>>>>>>>> ago that puzzled me.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Surprisingly after doing the update my phone lasted nearly 50
>>>>>>>>>>>> hours before dying and needing a charge. I am curious to find out
>>>>>>>>>>>> if that was just a ha, good luck day after the upgrade since I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>> letting it do a complete recharge now since I don't need to go
>>>>>>>>>>>> anywhere today it can sit and charge and I'll see if I'm lucky
>>>>>>>>>>>> again.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> May and Prince Noah
>>>>>>>>>>>> www.canadianlynx.ca
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2013-09-21, at 2:52 PM, Brian Fischler <blindga...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah Ed I think that might be the problem, as I do have a lot of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> apps. I just turned it off, so will see how that affects the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> battery. Thanks again
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 21, 2013, at 2:35 PM, Edward Green
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <ergreen1...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Brian,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> YOu may want to try and experiment with background refresh.  YOu
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can control whether individual apps refresh in the background or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not.  I believe the idea of this feature is to save you time
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when opening apps, and the phone will learn your routines for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doing this so that the apps refresh appropriately.  However, it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sounds as though some of them may be refreshing more than you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> want.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 21 Sep 2013, at 19:25, Brian Fischler <blindga...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey all,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For the most part I really am loving IOS 7. The one thing that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is a concern is the battery life is horrible. I typically made
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it through almost the entire day with not really needing to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> charge my phone. Yesterday, I barely used it and I had to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> charge it twice. I am using an iPhone 4S on IOS 7, and know
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some of you have some fantastic info, and was hoping someone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> might be able to compile a list of checks to use to get the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> best battery life. I have turned that new motion option on as I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> read that saves some battery life. I have closed a lot of the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> apps in the app switcher especially all GPS apps. I saw someone
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mention turning off background refresh might save battery life.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What am I losing by turning that off, as I thought that was one
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the new features that iPhone was pushing, so by turning off
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would like to know what I am disabling. I assume it means
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> apps will only refresh when I open them, as I have noticed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> through out the day I would hear Downcast refresh which I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thought was odd, as I have it set to refresh every 8 hours and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> usually manually refresh it. I do have about 200 apps on my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> phone so if they are constantly trying to refresh I could see
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that killing my battery. I have my screen curtain turned on and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> screen brightness turned down to 33%.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, if anyone got an iPhone 5S can you let us know howe the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> battery life is? I plan to get one when the craze dies down,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but want to find out if people are having serious battery
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> issues or any other problems.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks all
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