I noticed drain as well, but ever since I disabled Frequent Locations, things 
have been a lot better.
On Sep 24, 2013, at 3:58 PM, Pete Nalda <lpna...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Y'all, I've been noticing this too.  The first day I had iOS 7, I completely 
> ran down my mophie, then proceeded to get the phone down to 20%.  That has 
> just NEVER happened with iOS 6.  I'm generally ok with 7, but when I think 
> about it, for me, on my iPhone 4, I really am not sure it's better.  Although 
> the ability to bold all text, including large text, is really nice as is the 
> cleaner interface in a lot of places.
> 
> On Sep 24, 2013, at 2:42 PM, Brian Fischler <blindga...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Sorry Ricardo I couldn't disagree with you more. My phone was just sitting 
>> here yesterday and in 4 hours of just sitting still lost 50% of bsattery 
>> power. On days when I actually use it I have had to charge my phone up to 
>> three times. I wish you were correct in your assessment but something 
>> definitely seems to be training the heck out of my battery, and yes, I have 
>> turned off a ton of things.
>> On Sep 24, 2013, at 1:03 AM, Ricardo Walker <rwalker...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> lol,
>>> 
>>> Hi.  I kid you not, I see this with every, single, major update to IOS.  a 
>>> bunch of people start complaining on how terrible their battery life is.  
>>> Now, before anyone gets upset, I’m not saying some cases aren’t genuine.  
>>> But, the overwhelming majority are not.
>>> 
>>> Let us step back and think what happens when we get a major update.  For 
>>> the majority of us, usage goes up.  At least in the short term.  If there 
>>> was a chart out there, I bet you would see a usage spike right after major 
>>> updates.  Everyone wants to check out all the new features, improvements, 
>>> etc.  So naturally, the battery is getting used a whole lot more.  At 
>>> least, more than you normally do.  Give it 1 month.  95% of bad battery 
>>> claims will mysteriously go away.  If you want, do a google search for 
>>> battery issues going back the last 5 years.  There all about updates that 
>>> kill battery life.  But yet, you rarely ever find this in the middle of a 
>>> refresh cycle for the OS.  I know, some will say “That’s because Apple has 
>>> fixed the battery  trouble with minor maintenance updates.”  This could be 
>>> true.  But, only once, in 5 years of using IOS do I remember Apple putting 
>>> out an update that specifically mentioned fixing a battery issue.
>>> 
>>> JMO.
>>> 
>>> Ricardo Walker
>>> rica...@appletothecore.info
>>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
>>> www.appletothecore.info
>>> 
>>> On Sep 23, 2013, at 2:26 PM, Brian Fischler <blindga...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> So in another words just turn everything off. Kidding, but this is a 
>>>> serious issue and I find it a little troubling that Apple didn't think a 
>>>> battery issue for Voiceover users was serious enough to address before the 
>>>> release. This issue has definitely stopped me from running out to buy a 
>>>> 5S. I am sure there will eventually be a fix, but Voiceover fixes always 
>>>> seem to roll out very slowly. I have turned my screen brightness down, 
>>>> always use my screen curtain but have heard conflicting reports on whether 
>>>> this affects battery life. I have turned off location services for those 
>>>> apps that don't need it, monitored what is in the app switcher, turned off 
>>>> apps refreshing in the background, and I am sure I am forgetting a few 
>>>> other things I have turned off. I do like IOS 7 but the battery issue and 
>>>> VO not working very well in lists for Downcast and my RSS feeds is very 
>>>> annoying as in IOS 6 you could quickly delta items as VO would drop you on 
>>>> the next item after swiping to delete something. This does not work in IOS 
>>>> 7 if you swipe right it jumps two items, and VO constantly loses focus in 
>>>> these apps. Oh well. 
>>>> On Sep 22, 2013, at 7:14 PM, Tim Kilburn <kilbur...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Can't recall if this was mentioned yet.  If you set your iPhone to Push 
>>>>> and/or Fetch Mail less often.  Actually, I just have mine set to grab 
>>>>> Mail when I go into the Mail app as I don't care for it giving me alerts 
>>>>> constantly when in meetings and such.  I tend to get 48 to 72 hours out 
>>>>> of my iPhone 5 even on iOS 7.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Later...
>>>>> 
>>>>> Tim Kilburn
>>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 2013-09-22, at 1:45 PM, Ricardo Walker <rwalker...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Turning screen curtain on does not save battery.  This came straight 
>>>>>> from Apple btw.  
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Ricardo Walker
>>>>>> rica...@appletothecore.info
>>>>>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
>>>>>> www.appletothecore.info
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sep 22, 2013, at 2:37 PM, Eugenia Firth <gigifi...@me.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi again
>>>>>>> The other thing I did which I forgot to mention that saves battery 
>>>>>>> power on my iPhone is to turn screen curtain on. That way my battery is 
>>>>>>> not running my screen, and I only turn my screen on when I really need 
>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Gigi
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Sep 21, 2013, at 7:22 PM, Eugenia Firth <gigifi...@me.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> my email was coming in every time I got one, and it was gobbling up 
>>>>>>>> battery power for breakfast. I don't have that problem so much anymore.
>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>> Gigi Hi guys
>>>>>>>> I have a for S iPhone. I have done two things which is made a huge 
>>>>>>>> difference to my battery life on my iPhone. First, I turned off 
>>>>>>>> Bluetooth and only turn it on when I need it. Secondly, I set my email 
>>>>>>>> to download only manually.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Sep 21, 2013, at 4:01 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu <kawa...@me.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> I'm waiting for my 5S as I believe when there is a major update, 
>>>>>>>>> Battery life on the 5 and lower drains as my theory is if that didn't 
>>>>>>>>> happen Apple would not get people to buy the new phones on Offer.  As 
>>>>>>>>> I have sold my current phone, and once I get my new one, I've decided 
>>>>>>>>> not to update for now so it'll all be new to me when the phone 
>>>>>>>>> finally comes to me from the Apple store.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Kawal. 
>>>>>>>>>> On 21 Sep 2013, at 20:28, May and Noah <mcdonald....@gmail.com> 
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Wow speaking of battery life since I had a battery issue not long 
>>>>>>>>>> ago that puzzled me.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Surprisingly after doing the update my phone lasted nearly 50 hours 
>>>>>>>>>> before dying and needing a charge. I am curious to find out if that 
>>>>>>>>>> was just a ha, good luck day after the upgrade since I'm letting it 
>>>>>>>>>> do a complete recharge now since I don't need to go anywhere today 
>>>>>>>>>> it can sit and charge and I'll see if I'm lucky again.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> May and Prince Noah
>>>>>>>>>> www.canadianlynx.ca
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On 2013-09-21, at 2:52 PM, Brian Fischler <blindga...@gmail.com> 
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah Ed I think that might be the problem, as I do have a lot of 
>>>>>>>>>>> apps. I just turned it off, so will see how that affects the 
>>>>>>>>>>> battery. Thanks again
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 21, 2013, at 2:35 PM, Edward Green <ergreen1...@gmail.com> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Brian,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> YOu may want to try and experiment with background refresh.  YOu 
>>>>>>>>>>>> can control whether individual apps refresh in the background or 
>>>>>>>>>>>> not.  I believe the idea of this feature is to save you time when 
>>>>>>>>>>>> opening apps, and the phone will learn your routines for doing 
>>>>>>>>>>>> this so that the apps refresh appropriately.  However, it sounds 
>>>>>>>>>>>> as though some of them may be refreshing more than you want.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ed
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 21 Sep 2013, at 19:25, Brian Fischler <blindga...@gmail.com> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey all,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> For the most part I really am loving IOS 7. The one thing that is 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a concern is the battery life is horrible. I typically made it 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> through almost the entire day with not really needing to charge 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> my phone. Yesterday, I barely used it and I had to charge it 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> twice. I am using an iPhone 4S on IOS 7, and know some of you 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> have some fantastic info, and was hoping someone might be able to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> compile a list of checks to use to get the best battery life. I 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> have turned that new motion option on as I read that saves some 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> battery life. I have closed a lot of the apps in the app switcher 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> especially all GPS apps. I saw someone mention turning off 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> background refresh might save battery life. What am I losing by 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> turning that off, as I thought that was one of the new features 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> that iPhone was pushing, so by turning off I would like to know 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> what I am disabling. I assume it means apps will only refresh 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> when I open them, as I have noticed through out the day I would 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> hear Downcast refresh which I thought was odd, as I have it set 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to refresh every 8 hours and usually manually refresh it. I do 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> have about 200 apps on my phone so if they are constantly trying 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to refresh I could see that killing my battery. I have my screen 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> curtain turned on and screen brightness turned down to 33%. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, if anyone got an iPhone 5S can you let us know howe the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> battery life is? I plan to get one when the craze dies down, but 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> want to find out if people are having serious battery issues or 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> any other problems.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks all
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