Sorry Ricardo I couldn't disagree with you more. My phone was just sitting here 
yesterday and in 4 hours of just sitting still lost 50% of bsattery power. On 
days when I actually use it I have had to charge my phone up to three times. I 
wish you were correct in your assessment but something definitely seems to be 
training the heck out of my battery, and yes, I have turned off a ton of things.
On Sep 24, 2013, at 1:03 AM, Ricardo Walker <rwalker...@gmail.com> wrote:

> lol,
> 
> Hi.  I kid you not, I see this with every, single, major update to IOS.  a 
> bunch of people start complaining on how terrible their battery life is.  
> Now, before anyone gets upset, I’m not saying some cases aren’t genuine.  
> But, the overwhelming majority are not.
> 
> Let us step back and think what happens when we get a major update.  For the 
> majority of us, usage goes up.  At least in the short term.  If there was a 
> chart out there, I bet you would see a usage spike right after major updates. 
>  Everyone wants to check out all the new features, improvements, etc.  So 
> naturally, the battery is getting used a whole lot more.  At least, more than 
> you normally do.  Give it 1 month.  95% of bad battery claims will 
> mysteriously go away.  If you want, do a google search for battery issues 
> going back the last 5 years.  There all about updates that kill battery life. 
>  But yet, you rarely ever find this in the middle of a refresh cycle for the 
> OS.  I know, some will say “That’s because Apple has fixed the battery  
> trouble with minor maintenance updates.”  This could be true.  But, only 
> once, in 5 years of using IOS do I remember Apple putting out an update that 
> specifically mentioned fixing a battery issue.
> 
> JMO.
> 
> Ricardo Walker
> rica...@appletothecore.info
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> 
> On Sep 23, 2013, at 2:26 PM, Brian Fischler <blindga...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> So in another words just turn everything off. Kidding, but this is a serious 
>> issue and I find it a little troubling that Apple didn't think a battery 
>> issue for Voiceover users was serious enough to address before the release. 
>> This issue has definitely stopped me from running out to buy a 5S. I am sure 
>> there will eventually be a fix, but Voiceover fixes always seem to roll out 
>> very slowly. I have turned my screen brightness down, always use my screen 
>> curtain but have heard conflicting reports on whether this affects battery 
>> life. I have turned off location services for those apps that don't need it, 
>> monitored what is in the app switcher, turned off apps refreshing in the 
>> background, and I am sure I am forgetting a few other things I have turned 
>> off. I do like IOS 7 but the battery issue and VO not working very well in 
>> lists for Downcast and my RSS feeds is very annoying as in IOS 6 you could 
>> quickly delta items as VO would drop you on the next item after swiping to 
>> delete something. This does not work in IOS 7 if you swipe right it jumps 
>> two items, and VO constantly loses focus in these apps. Oh well. 
>> On Sep 22, 2013, at 7:14 PM, Tim Kilburn <kilbur...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Can't recall if this was mentioned yet.  If you set your iPhone to Push 
>>> and/or Fetch Mail less often.  Actually, I just have mine set to grab Mail 
>>> when I go into the Mail app as I don't care for it giving me alerts 
>>> constantly when in meetings and such.  I tend to get 48 to 72 hours out of 
>>> my iPhone 5 even on iOS 7.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On 2013-09-22, at 1:45 PM, Ricardo Walker <rwalker...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> Turning screen curtain on does not save battery.  This came straight from 
>>>> Apple btw.  
>>>> 
>>>> Ricardo Walker
>>>> rica...@appletothecore.info
>>>> Twitter:@apple2thecore
>>>> www.appletothecore.info
>>>> 
>>>> On Sep 22, 2013, at 2:37 PM, Eugenia Firth <gigifi...@me.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi again
>>>>> The other thing I did which I forgot to mention that saves battery power 
>>>>> on my iPhone is to turn screen curtain on. That way my battery is not 
>>>>> running my screen, and I only turn my screen on when I really need it.
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Gigi
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Sep 21, 2013, at 7:22 PM, Eugenia Firth <gigifi...@me.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> my email was coming in every time I got one, and it was gobbling up 
>>>>>> battery power for breakfast. I don't have that problem so much anymore.
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>> Gigi Hi guys
>>>>>> I have a for S iPhone. I have done two things which is made a huge 
>>>>>> difference to my battery life on my iPhone. First, I turned off 
>>>>>> Bluetooth and only turn it on when I need it. Secondly, I set my email 
>>>>>> to download only manually.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Sep 21, 2013, at 4:01 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu <kawa...@me.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I'm waiting for my 5S as I believe when there is a major update, 
>>>>>>> Battery life on the 5 and lower drains as my theory is if that didn't 
>>>>>>> happen Apple would not get people to buy the new phones on Offer.  As I 
>>>>>>> have sold my current phone, and once I get my new one, I've decided not 
>>>>>>> to update for now so it'll all be new to me when the phone finally 
>>>>>>> comes to me from the Apple store.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Kawal. 
>>>>>>>> On 21 Sep 2013, at 20:28, May and Noah <mcdonald....@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Wow speaking of battery life since I had a battery issue not long ago 
>>>>>>>> that puzzled me.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Surprisingly after doing the update my phone lasted nearly 50 hours 
>>>>>>>> before dying and needing a charge. I am curious to find out if that 
>>>>>>>> was just a ha, good luck day after the upgrade since I'm letting it do 
>>>>>>>> a complete recharge now since I don't need to go anywhere today it can 
>>>>>>>> sit and charge and I'll see if I'm lucky again.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> May and Prince Noah
>>>>>>>> www.canadianlynx.ca
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 2013-09-21, at 2:52 PM, Brian Fischler <blindga...@gmail.com> 
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Yeah Ed I think that might be the problem, as I do have a lot of 
>>>>>>>>> apps. I just turned it off, so will see how that affects the battery. 
>>>>>>>>> Thanks again
>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 21, 2013, at 2:35 PM, Edward Green <ergreen1...@gmail.com> 
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Brian,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> YOu may want to try and experiment with background refresh.  YOu can 
>>>>>>>>>> control whether individual apps refresh in the background or not.  I 
>>>>>>>>>> believe the idea of this feature is to save you time when opening 
>>>>>>>>>> apps, and the phone will learn your routines for doing this so that 
>>>>>>>>>> the apps refresh appropriately.  However, it sounds as though some 
>>>>>>>>>> of them may be refreshing more than you want.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Ed
>>>>>>>>>>> On 21 Sep 2013, at 19:25, Brian Fischler <blindga...@gmail.com> 
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Hey all,
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> For the most part I really am loving IOS 7. The one thing that is a 
>>>>>>>>>>> concern is the battery life is horrible. I typically made it 
>>>>>>>>>>> through almost the entire day with not really needing to charge my 
>>>>>>>>>>> phone. Yesterday, I barely used it and I had to charge it twice. I 
>>>>>>>>>>> am using an iPhone 4S on IOS 7, and know some of you have some 
>>>>>>>>>>> fantastic info, and was hoping someone might be able to compile a 
>>>>>>>>>>> list of checks to use to get the best battery life. I have turned 
>>>>>>>>>>> that new motion option on as I read that saves some battery life. I 
>>>>>>>>>>> have closed a lot of the apps in the app switcher especially all 
>>>>>>>>>>> GPS apps. I saw someone mention turning off background refresh 
>>>>>>>>>>> might save battery life. What am I losing by turning that off, as I 
>>>>>>>>>>> thought that was one of the new features that iPhone was pushing, 
>>>>>>>>>>> so by turning off I would like to know what I am disabling. I 
>>>>>>>>>>> assume it means apps will only refresh when I open them, as I have 
>>>>>>>>>>> noticed through out the day I would hear Downcast refresh which I 
>>>>>>>>>>> thought was odd, as I have it set to refresh every 8 hours and 
>>>>>>>>>>> usually manually refresh it. I do have about 200 apps on my phone 
>>>>>>>>>>> so if they are constantly trying to refresh I could see that 
>>>>>>>>>>> killing my battery. I have my screen curtain turned on and screen 
>>>>>>>>>>> brightness turned down to 33%. 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Also, if anyone got an iPhone 5S can you let us know howe the 
>>>>>>>>>>> battery life is? I plan to get one when the craze dies down, but 
>>>>>>>>>>> want to find out if people are having serious battery issues or any 
>>>>>>>>>>> other problems.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks all
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