Christine, Try a little humor! It might make all the difference. It really wasn't all that big a deal.
CJ On Sep 24, 2013, at 4:03 PM, Christine Grassman <cgrassman1...@gmail.com> wrote: > I think that Ricardo is spot on with respect to past updates, but not this > time. In fact, several sighted friends and relatives have been making the > same complaints -- I wonder if that means their sighted peers who do not seem > to be having a battery issue will consider them paranoid, recklessly > screaming drama queens. Ricardo's post was respectful and level-headed, and > worth considering. However, to suggest that those of us who are reporting > serious battery drain are predicting the imminent collapse of the earth and > that we are at risk of giving blind people a bad reputation is absurd, > offensive, and uncalled-for. > Christine > On Sep 24, 2013, at 6:36 PM, CJ Daniel <cj.bear.dan...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Riccardo, >> >> Way to stay level-headed, assess the data, & not scream "the sky is falling! >> The sky is falling!" If you keep this up, you'll give blind folks a good >> reputation. >> >> Seriously, some good points, >> >> CJ >> >> >> On Sep 23, 2013, at 10:03 PM, Ricardo Walker <rwalker...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> lol, >>> >>> Hi. I kid you not, I see this with every, single, major update to IOS. a >>> bunch of people start complaining on how terrible their battery life is. >>> Now, before anyone gets upset, I’m not saying some cases aren’t genuine. >>> But, the overwhelming majority are not. >>> >>> Let us step back and think what happens when we get a major update. For >>> the majority of us, usage goes up. At least in the short term. If there >>> was a chart out there, I bet you would see a usage spike right after major >>> updates. Everyone wants to check out all the new features, improvements, >>> etc. So naturally, the battery is getting used a whole lot more. At >>> least, more than you normally do. Give it 1 month. 95% of bad battery >>> claims will mysteriously go away. If you want, do a google search for >>> battery issues going back the last 5 years. There all about updates that >>> kill battery life. But yet, you rarely ever find this in the middle of a >>> refresh cycle for the OS. I know, some will say “That’s because Apple has >>> fixed the battery trouble with minor maintenance updates.” This could be >>> true. But, only once, in 5 years of using IOS do I remember Apple putting >>> out an update that specifically mentioned fixing a battery issue. >>> >>> JMO. >>> >>> Ricardo Walker >>> rica...@appletothecore.info >>> Twitter:@apple2thecore >>> www.appletothecore.info >>> >>> On Sep 23, 2013, at 2:26 PM, Brian Fischler <blindga...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> So in another words just turn everything off. Kidding, but this is a >>>> serious issue and I find it a little troubling that Apple didn't think a >>>> battery issue for Voiceover users was serious enough to address before the >>>> release. This issue has definitely stopped me from running out to buy a >>>> 5S. I am sure there will eventually be a fix, but Voiceover fixes always >>>> seem to roll out very slowly. I have turned my screen brightness down, >>>> always use my screen curtain but have heard conflicting reports on whether >>>> this affects battery life. I have turned off location services for those >>>> apps that don't need it, monitored what is in the app switcher, turned off >>>> apps refreshing in the background, and I am sure I am forgetting a few >>>> other things I have turned off. I do like IOS 7 but the battery issue and >>>> VO not working very well in lists for Downcast and my RSS feeds is very >>>> annoying as in IOS 6 you could quickly delta items as VO would drop you on >>>> the next item after swiping to delete something. This does not work in IOS >>>> 7 if you swipe right it jumps two items, and VO constantly loses focus in >>>> these apps. Oh well. >>>> On Sep 22, 2013, at 7:14 PM, Tim Kilburn <kilbur...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> Can't recall if this was mentioned yet. If you set your iPhone to Push >>>>> and/or Fetch Mail less often. Actually, I just have mine set to grab >>>>> Mail when I go into the Mail app as I don't care for it giving me alerts >>>>> constantly when in meetings and such. I tend to get 48 to 72 hours out >>>>> of my iPhone 5 even on iOS 7. >>>>> >>>>> Later... >>>>> >>>>> Tim Kilburn >>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >>>>> >>>>> On 2013-09-22, at 1:45 PM, Ricardo Walker <rwalker...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> Turning screen curtain on does not save battery. This came straight >>>>>> from Apple btw. >>>>>> >>>>>> Ricardo Walker >>>>>> rica...@appletothecore.info >>>>>> Twitter:@apple2thecore >>>>>> www.appletothecore.info >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sep 22, 2013, at 2:37 PM, Eugenia Firth <gigifi...@me.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi again >>>>>>> The other thing I did which I forgot to mention that saves battery >>>>>>> power on my iPhone is to turn screen curtain on. That way my battery is >>>>>>> not running my screen, and I only turn my screen on when I really need >>>>>>> it. >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> Gigi >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sep 21, 2013, at 7:22 PM, Eugenia Firth <gigifi...@me.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> my email was coming in every time I got one, and it was gobbling up >>>>>>>> battery power for breakfast. I don't have that problem so much anymore. >>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>> Gigi Hi guys >>>>>>>> I have a for S iPhone. I have done two things which is made a huge >>>>>>>> difference to my battery life on my iPhone. First, I turned off >>>>>>>> Bluetooth and only turn it on when I need it. Secondly, I set my email >>>>>>>> to download only manually. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sep 21, 2013, at 4:01 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu <kawa...@me.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I'm waiting for my 5S as I believe when there is a major update, >>>>>>>>> Battery life on the 5 and lower drains as my theory is if that didn't >>>>>>>>> happen Apple would not get people to buy the new phones on Offer. As >>>>>>>>> I have sold my current phone, and once I get my new one, I've decided >>>>>>>>> not to update for now so it'll all be new to me when the phone >>>>>>>>> finally comes to me from the Apple store. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Kawal. >>>>>>>>>> On 21 Sep 2013, at 20:28, May and Noah <mcdonald....@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Wow speaking of battery life since I had a battery issue not long >>>>>>>>>> ago that puzzled me. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Surprisingly after doing the update my phone lasted nearly 50 hours >>>>>>>>>> before dying and needing a charge. I am curious to find out if that >>>>>>>>>> was just a ha, good luck day after the upgrade since I'm letting it >>>>>>>>>> do a complete recharge now since I don't need to go anywhere today >>>>>>>>>> it can sit and charge and I'll see if I'm lucky again. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> May and Prince Noah >>>>>>>>>> www.canadianlynx.ca >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 2013-09-21, at 2:52 PM, Brian Fischler <blindga...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Yeah Ed I think that might be the problem, as I do have a lot of >>>>>>>>>>> apps. I just turned it off, so will see how that affects the >>>>>>>>>>> battery. Thanks again >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 21, 2013, at 2:35 PM, Edward Green <ergreen1...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Brian, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> YOu may want to try and experiment with background refresh. YOu >>>>>>>>>>>> can control whether individual apps refresh in the background or >>>>>>>>>>>> not. I believe the idea of this feature is to save you time when >>>>>>>>>>>> opening apps, and the phone will learn your routines for doing >>>>>>>>>>>> this so that the apps refresh appropriately. However, it sounds >>>>>>>>>>>> as though some of them may be refreshing more than you want. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Ed >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 21 Sep 2013, at 19:25, Brian Fischler <blindga...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey all, >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> For the most part I really am loving IOS 7. The one thing that is >>>>>>>>>>>>> a concern is the battery life is horrible. I typically made it >>>>>>>>>>>>> through almost the entire day with not really needing to charge >>>>>>>>>>>>> my phone. Yesterday, I barely used it and I had to charge it >>>>>>>>>>>>> twice. I am using an iPhone 4S on IOS 7, and know some of you >>>>>>>>>>>>> have some fantastic info, and was hoping someone might be able to >>>>>>>>>>>>> compile a list of checks to use to get the best battery life. I >>>>>>>>>>>>> have turned that new motion option on as I read that saves some >>>>>>>>>>>>> battery life. I have closed a lot of the apps in the app switcher >>>>>>>>>>>>> especially all GPS apps. I saw someone mention turning off >>>>>>>>>>>>> background refresh might save battery life. What am I losing by >>>>>>>>>>>>> turning that off, as I thought that was one of the new features >>>>>>>>>>>>> that iPhone was pushing, so by turning off I would like to know >>>>>>>>>>>>> what I am disabling. I assume it means apps will only refresh >>>>>>>>>>>>> when I open them, as I have noticed through out the day I would >>>>>>>>>>>>> hear Downcast refresh which I thought was odd, as I have it set >>>>>>>>>>>>> to refresh every 8 hours and usually manually refresh it. I do >>>>>>>>>>>>> have about 200 apps on my phone so if they are constantly trying >>>>>>>>>>>>> to refresh I could see that killing my battery. I have my screen >>>>>>>>>>>>> curtain turned on and screen brightness turned down to 33%. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, if anyone got an iPhone 5S can you let us know howe the >>>>>>>>>>>>> battery life is? 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