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CJ On Sep 24, 2013, at 5:25 PM, Christine Grassman <cgrassman1...@gmail.com> wrote: > I am well-known for having a fabulous sense of humor -- when material is > funny. > On Sep 24, 2013, at 8:02 PM, CJ Daniel <cj.bear.dan...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Christine, >> >> Try a little humor! It might make all the difference. It really wasn't all >> that big a deal. >> >> CJ >> >> >> On Sep 24, 2013, at 4:03 PM, Christine Grassman <cgrassman1...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> I think that Ricardo is spot on with respect to past updates, but not this >>> time. In fact, several sighted friends and relatives have been making the >>> same complaints -- I wonder if that means their sighted peers who do not >>> seem to be having a battery issue will consider them paranoid, recklessly >>> screaming drama queens. Ricardo's post was respectful and level-headed, >>> and worth considering. However, to suggest that those of us who are >>> reporting serious battery drain are predicting the imminent collapse of >>> the earth and that we are at risk of giving blind people a bad reputation >>> is absurd, offensive, and uncalled-for. >>> Christine >>> On Sep 24, 2013, at 6:36 PM, CJ Daniel <cj.bear.dan...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Riccardo, >>>> >>>> Way to stay level-headed, assess the data, & not scream "the sky is >>>> falling! The sky is falling!" If you keep this up, you'll give blind >>>> folks a good reputation. >>>> >>>> Seriously, some good points, >>>> >>>> CJ >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sep 23, 2013, at 10:03 PM, Ricardo Walker <rwalker...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> lol, >>>>> >>>>> Hi. I kid you not, I see this with every, single, major update to IOS. >>>>> a bunch of people start complaining on how terrible their battery life >>>>> is. Now, before anyone gets upset, I’m not saying some cases aren’t >>>>> genuine. But, the overwhelming majority are not. >>>>> >>>>> Let us step back and think what happens when we get a major update. For >>>>> the majority of us, usage goes up. At least in the short term. If there >>>>> was a chart out there, I bet you would see a usage spike right after >>>>> major updates. Everyone wants to check out all the new features, >>>>> improvements, etc. So naturally, the battery is getting used a whole lot >>>>> more. At least, more than you normally do. Give it 1 month. 95% of bad >>>>> battery claims will mysteriously go away. If you want, do a google >>>>> search for battery issues going back the last 5 years. There all about >>>>> updates that kill battery life. But yet, you rarely ever find this in >>>>> the middle of a refresh cycle for the OS. I know, some will say “That’s >>>>> because Apple has fixed the battery trouble with minor maintenance >>>>> updates.” This could be true. But, only once, in 5 years of using IOS >>>>> do I remember Apple putting out an update that specifically mentioned >>>>> fixing a battery issue. >>>>> >>>>> JMO. >>>>> >>>>> Ricardo Walker >>>>> rica...@appletothecore.info >>>>> Twitter:@apple2thecore >>>>> www.appletothecore.info >>>>> >>>>> On Sep 23, 2013, at 2:26 PM, Brian Fischler <blindga...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> So in another words just turn everything off. Kidding, but this is a >>>>>> serious issue and I find it a little troubling that Apple didn't think a >>>>>> battery issue for Voiceover users was serious enough to address before >>>>>> the release. This issue has definitely stopped me from running out to >>>>>> buy a 5S. I am sure there will eventually be a fix, but Voiceover fixes >>>>>> always seem to roll out very slowly. I have turned my screen brightness >>>>>> down, always use my screen curtain but have heard conflicting reports on >>>>>> whether this affects battery life. I have turned off location services >>>>>> for those apps that don't need it, monitored what is in the app >>>>>> switcher, turned off apps refreshing in the background, and I am sure I >>>>>> am forgetting a few other things I have turned off. I do like IOS 7 but >>>>>> the battery issue and VO not working very well in lists for Downcast and >>>>>> my RSS feeds is very annoying as in IOS 6 you could quickly delta items >>>>>> as VO would drop you on the next item after swiping to delete something. >>>>>> This does not work in IOS 7 if you swipe right it jumps two items, and >>>>>> VO constantly loses focus in these apps. Oh well. >>>>>> On Sep 22, 2013, at 7:14 PM, Tim Kilburn <kilbur...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Can't recall if this was mentioned yet. If you set your iPhone to Push >>>>>>> and/or Fetch Mail less often. Actually, I just have mine set to grab >>>>>>> Mail when I go into the Mail app as I don't care for it giving me >>>>>>> alerts constantly when in meetings and such. I tend to get 48 to 72 >>>>>>> hours out of my iPhone 5 even on iOS 7. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Later... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Tim Kilburn >>>>>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 2013-09-22, at 1:45 PM, Ricardo Walker <rwalker...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Turning screen curtain on does not save battery. This came straight >>>>>>>> from Apple btw. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ricardo Walker >>>>>>>> rica...@appletothecore.info >>>>>>>> Twitter:@apple2thecore >>>>>>>> www.appletothecore.info >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sep 22, 2013, at 2:37 PM, Eugenia Firth <gigifi...@me.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi again >>>>>>>>> The other thing I did which I forgot to mention that saves battery >>>>>>>>> power on my iPhone is to turn screen curtain on. That way my battery >>>>>>>>> is not running my screen, and I only turn my screen on when I really >>>>>>>>> need it. >>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>> Gigi >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Sep 21, 2013, at 7:22 PM, Eugenia Firth <gigifi...@me.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> my email was coming in every time I got one, and it was gobbling up >>>>>>>>>> battery power for breakfast. I don't have that problem so much >>>>>>>>>> anymore. >>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>> Gigi Hi guys >>>>>>>>>> I have a for S iPhone. I have done two things which is made a huge >>>>>>>>>> difference to my battery life on my iPhone. First, I turned off >>>>>>>>>> Bluetooth and only turn it on when I need it. Secondly, I set my >>>>>>>>>> email to download only manually. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 21, 2013, at 4:01 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu <kawa...@me.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I'm waiting for my 5S as I believe when there is a major update, >>>>>>>>>>> Battery life on the 5 and lower drains as my theory is if that >>>>>>>>>>> didn't happen Apple would not get people to buy the new phones on >>>>>>>>>>> Offer. As I have sold my current phone, and once I get my new one, >>>>>>>>>>> I've decided not to update for now so it'll all be new to me when >>>>>>>>>>> the phone finally comes to me from the Apple store. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Kawal. >>>>>>>>>>>> On 21 Sep 2013, at 20:28, May and Noah <mcdonald....@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Wow speaking of battery life since I had a battery issue not long >>>>>>>>>>>> ago that puzzled me. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Surprisingly after doing the update my phone lasted nearly 50 >>>>>>>>>>>> hours before dying and needing a charge. I am curious to find out >>>>>>>>>>>> if that was just a ha, good luck day after the upgrade since I'm >>>>>>>>>>>> letting it do a complete recharge now since I don't need to go >>>>>>>>>>>> anywhere today it can sit and charge and I'll see if I'm lucky >>>>>>>>>>>> again. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> May and Prince Noah >>>>>>>>>>>> www.canadianlynx.ca >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2013-09-21, at 2:52 PM, Brian Fischler <blindga...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Yeah Ed I think that might be the problem, as I do have a lot of >>>>>>>>>>>>> apps. I just turned it off, so will see how that affects the >>>>>>>>>>>>> battery. Thanks again >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 21, 2013, at 2:35 PM, Edward Green >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <ergreen1...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Brian, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> YOu may want to try and experiment with background refresh. YOu >>>>>>>>>>>>>> can control whether individual apps refresh in the background or >>>>>>>>>>>>>> not. I believe the idea of this feature is to save you time >>>>>>>>>>>>>> when opening apps, and the phone will learn your routines for >>>>>>>>>>>>>> doing this so that the apps refresh appropriately. However, it >>>>>>>>>>>>>> sounds as though some of them may be refreshing more than you >>>>>>>>>>>>>> want. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 21 Sep 2013, at 19:25, Brian Fischler <blindga...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey all, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For the most part I really am loving IOS 7. The one thing that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is a concern is the battery life is horrible. I typically made >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it through almost the entire day with not really needing to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> charge my phone. Yesterday, I barely used it and I had to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> charge it twice. I am using an iPhone 4S on IOS 7, and know >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some of you have some fantastic info, and was hoping someone >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> might be able to compile a list of checks to use to get the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> best battery life. I have turned that new motion option on as I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> read that saves some battery life. I have closed a lot of the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> apps in the app switcher especially all GPS apps. I saw someone >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mention turning off background refresh might save battery life. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What am I losing by turning that off, as I thought that was one >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of the new features that iPhone was pushing, so by turning off >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I would like to know what I am disabling. I assume it means >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> apps will only refresh when I open them, as I have noticed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> through out the day I would hear Downcast refresh which I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> thought was odd, as I have it set to refresh every 8 hours and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> usually manually refresh it. I do have about 200 apps on my >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> phone so if they are constantly trying to refresh I could see >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that killing my battery. I have my screen curtain turned on and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> screen brightness turned down to 33%. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, if anyone got an iPhone 5S can you let us know howe the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> battery life is? I plan to get one when the craze dies down, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but want to find out if people are having serious battery >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> issues or any other problems. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks all >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it, send an email to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Visit this group at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "MacVisionaries" 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