Re: [Freesurfer] Monte Carlo simulation - vertex wise threshold question

2018-07-16 Thread Douglas N. Greve
Yes, 3 is p<.001, which is converted to a z before thresholding the map. Note that we are trying to push people to use permutation instead of MC. On 07/09/2018 05:22 PM, Dincer, Aylin wrote: > > > Hi FreeSurfer experts, > > > I am trying to understand the Monte Carlo Z simulation in FreeSufer >

[Freesurfer] Monte Carlo simulation - vertex wise threshold question

2018-07-09 Thread Dincer, Aylin
External Email - Use Caution Hi FreeSurfer experts, I am trying to understand the Monte Carlo Z simulation in FreeSufer (mri_glmfit-sim) and have a question about the vertex wise /cluster forming threshold. In the simulation, a vertex wise threshold (ex. -cache 3 abs) is set

Re: [Freesurfer] Monte Carlo Simulation

2015-03-13 Thread Douglas N Greve
arch 12, 2015 10:29 PM > To: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu > Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Monte Carlo Simulation > > Yes, that probably is the reason. > doug > > On 3/12/15 4:31 PM, Wolthusen, Rick Peter Fritz wrote: >> To be honest, I checked the between subject alignment and it look

Re: [Freesurfer] Monte Carlo Simulation

2015-03-13 Thread Wolthusen, Rick Peter Fritz
...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu] on behalf of Douglas Greve [gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu] Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 10:29 PM To: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Monte Carlo Simulation Yes, that probably is the reason. doug On 3/12/15 4:31 PM, Wolthusen, Rick Peter Fritz wrote: >

Re: [Freesurfer] Monte Carlo Simulation

2015-03-12 Thread Douglas Greve
t; From: freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu > [freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu] on behalf of Douglas N Greve > [gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu] > Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 2:47 PM > To: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu > Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Monte Carlo Simulation > > I meant whi

Re: [Freesurfer] Monte Carlo Simulation

2015-03-12 Thread Wolthusen, Rick Peter Fritz
: Thursday, March 12, 2015 2:47 PM To: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Monte Carlo Simulation I meant which ones are causing the problems when you run mri_glmfit. When you run fslview you will see something that looks like a brain. As you scroll thru the different time points

Re: [Freesurfer] Monte Carlo Simulation

2015-03-12 Thread Douglas N Greve
to do the first level >> analysis for fct. connectivity instead of PASL for example? >> >> Thanks, >> Rick >> >> From: freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu >> [freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu] on behalf of D

Re: [Freesurfer] Monte Carlo Simulation

2015-03-12 Thread Wolthusen, Rick Peter Fritz
half of Douglas N Greve [gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu] Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2015 12:19 PM To: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Monte Carlo Simulation If the registration looks ok, then that is all that counts. However, I'm a bit sceptical that the reg looks ok but

Re: [Freesurfer] Monte Carlo Simulation

2015-03-12 Thread Douglas N Greve
vard.edu > [freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu] on behalf of Douglas N Greve > [gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu] > Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 6:34 PM > To: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu > Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Monte Carlo Simulation > > For the range, lower is better,

Re: [Freesurfer] Monte Carlo Simulation

2015-03-12 Thread Wolthusen, Rick Peter Fritz
reesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu] on behalf of Douglas N Greve > [gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu] > Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 5:21 PM > To: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu > Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Monte Carlo Simulation > > Try checking the individual registrat

Re: [Freesurfer] Monte Carlo Simulation

2015-03-12 Thread Douglas N Greve
_ > From: freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu > [freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu] on behalf of Douglas N Greve > [gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu] > Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 3:22 PM > To: Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu > Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Monte Carlo Simulation &

Re: [Freesurfer] Monte Carlo Simulation

2015-03-11 Thread Douglas N Greve
nmr.mgh.harvard.edu] on behalf of Douglas N Greve > [gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu] > Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 5:21 PM > To: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu > Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Monte Carlo Simulation > > Try checking the individual registrations (or look at the first value

Re: [Freesurfer] Monte Carlo Simulation

2015-03-11 Thread Wolthusen, Rick Peter Fritz
eps to simplify the script a little bit. > > From: freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu > [freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu] on behalf of Douglas N Greve > [gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu] > Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 4:50 PM > To: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harva

Re: [Freesurfer] Monte Carlo Simulation

2015-03-11 Thread Douglas N Greve
ittle bit. > > From: freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu > [freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu] on behalf of Douglas N Greve > [gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu] > Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 4:50 PM > To: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu > Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Monte Carl

Re: [Freesurfer] Monte Carlo Simulation

2015-03-11 Thread Wolthusen, Rick Peter Fritz
[freesurfer-boun...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu] on behalf of Douglas N Greve [gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu] Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2015 4:50 PM To: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Monte Carlo Simulation I still can't really tell what it is doing. It looks like it is

Re: [Freesurfer] Monte Carlo Simulation

2015-03-11 Thread Douglas N Greve
reesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu > Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Monte Carlo Simulation > > Sorry, I don't have time to deconstruct that script. Can you simplify it > for me? > > On 03/11/2015 03:32 PM, Wolthusen, Rick Peter Fritz wrote: >> This is the script I am using to

Re: [Freesurfer] Monte Carlo Simulation

2015-03-11 Thread Wolthusen, Rick Peter Fritz
, 2015 3:36 PM To: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Monte Carlo Simulation Sorry, I don't have time to deconstruct that script. Can you simplify it for me? On 03/11/2015 03:32 PM, Wolthusen, Rick Peter Fritz wrote: > This is the script I am using to create cbf.talar

Re: [Freesurfer] Monte Carlo Simulation

2015-03-11 Thread Wolthusen, Rick Peter Fritz
, 2015 3:22 PM To: Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Monte Carlo Simulation Something went very wrong with your first level analysis because the final mask is pretty messed up. how did you create cbf.talairach.mgz ? On 03/11/2015 03:13 PM, Wolthusen, Rick Peter Fritz wrote

Re: [Freesurfer] Monte Carlo Simulation

2015-03-11 Thread Douglas N Greve
Something went very wrong with your first level analysis because the final mask is pretty messed up. how did you create cbf.talairach.mgz ? On 03/11/2015 03:13 PM, Wolthusen, Rick Peter Fritz wrote: > Hi Doug et al., > > Here is the glmdir file you were requesting: > http://gate.nmr.mgh.harvar

Re: [Freesurfer] Monte Carlo Simulation

2015-03-11 Thread Wolthusen, Rick Peter Fritz
Hi Doug et al., Here is the glmdir file you were requesting: http://gate.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/filedrop2/?p=1vzzxqva928 Thanks, Rick From: Wolthusen, Rick Peter Fritz Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2015 2:10 PM To: Freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu Subject: RE: Mon

Re: [Freesurfer] Monte Carlo simulation - Longitudinal Pipeline

2015-03-04 Thread Douglas N Greve
mris_preproc might work. You could also use mri_concat (mris_preproc is a front end for mri_concat) On 03/03/2015 06:19 PM, Janosch Linkersdörfer wrote: > > Am 03.03.2015 um 14:42 schrieb Douglas N Greve : > >> Some of this Martin will have to comment on, but my comments below >> >> On 03/03/201

Re: [Freesurfer] Monte Carlo simulation - Longitudinal Pipeline

2015-03-03 Thread Janosch Linkersdörfer
Am 03.03.2015 um 14:42 schrieb Douglas N Greve : > > Some of this Martin will have to comment on, but my comments below > > On 03/03/2015 12:35 PM, Janosch Linkersdörfer wrote: >> Hey Doug, >> >> thanks again! That means, I would do something like: >> >> 1.) construct longitudinal qdec table

Re: [Freesurfer] Monte Carlo simulation - Longitudinal Pipeline

2015-03-03 Thread Douglas N Greve
Some of this Martin will have to comment on, but my comments below On 03/03/2015 12:35 PM, Janosch Linkersdörfer wrote: > Hey Doug, > > thanks again! That means, I would do something like: > > 1.) construct longitudinal qdec table > - only use fsid, fsid-base, and years/age columns > - substract

Re: [Freesurfer] Monte Carlo simulation - Longitudinal Pipeline

2015-03-03 Thread Janosch Linkersdörfer
Hey Doug, thanks again! That means, I would do something like: 1.) construct longitudinal qdec table - only use fsid, fsid-base, and years/age columns - substract the average age of the one-time point subjects from years/age value for every subject at every time point 2.) run long_mris_slopes -

Re: [Freesurfer] Monte Carlo simulation - Longitudinal Pipeline

2015-03-03 Thread Douglas N Greve
I don't know, esp since it is an approximation to begin with. An alternative is to take the offsets from your multi-time-point subjects and the single maps from your subjects with one time point and run that through the one-sample-group-mean (--osgm in mri_glmfit). If you go this route, then y

Re: [Freesurfer] Monte Carlo simulation - Longitudinal Pipeline

2015-03-02 Thread Janosch Linkersdörfer
Hi Doug, thank you very much for your answer! Am 02.03.2015 um 11:30 schrieb Douglas N Greve : > > You would do the long analysis using a random effects analysis. OK, so basically do 2-stage modeling (https://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/fswiki/LongitudinalTwoStageModel), right? > For each sub

Re: [Freesurfer] Monte Carlo Simulation

2015-03-02 Thread Douglas N Greve
Hi Rick, in the future please post to the list and not to us personally. Thanks! When you did the volume-based analysis, it should have masked out anything anything that was not subcortical. Did it not? If not, then when you run mri_glmfit you can add --mask $SUBJECTS_DIR/fsaverage/mri.2mm/bra

Re: [Freesurfer] Monte Carlo simulation - Longitudinal Pipeline

2015-03-02 Thread Douglas N Greve
You would do the long analysis using a random effects analysis. For each subject you can get a slope (this won't work if the subject only has 1 time point), then concatenate the slopes into a file and run mri_glmfit, then follow the procedures from the archive email you reference. doug On 02/2

Re: [Freesurfer] Monte Carlo simulation - Longitudinal Pipeline

2015-02-24 Thread Janosch Linkersdörfer
Hi Doug and others, I would like apply (Monte Carlo simulation) cluster correction (as opposed to the implemented vertex-wise FDR correction) on the results from a longitudinal study I analyzed using the LME toolbox. The design is unbalanced (different number of time points, from 1 to 4, per su

Re: [Freesurfer] Monte Carlo simulation - Longitudinal Pipeline

2014-04-26 Thread Pedro Rosa
Thanks, Doug! I looked at the examples on the wiki, and the Paired Analysis wiki page as well. You mentioned I should include the categorical and continuous variables in the fsgd file for the mri_glmfit. It seems that one of my analyses includes few subjects, and then one of the class end up lac

Re: [Freesurfer] Monte Carlo simulation - Longitudinal Pipeline

2014-04-16 Thread Douglas N Greve
On 04/15/2014 10:34 PM, Pedro Rosa wrote: > Hi, Doug. > Thanks a lot! > The command would look like this: mri_glmfit-sim --glmdir > lh.thickness.Sch.glmdir --sim mc-z 1 2 teste --sim-sign abs > --overwrite --cache 1.3 abs > It takes only a few seconds to run. The command is fine, but remove

Re: [Freesurfer] Monte Carlo simulation - Longitudinal Pipeline

2014-04-15 Thread Pedro Rosa
Hi, Doug. Thanks a lot! The command would look like this: mri_glmfit-sim --glmdir lh.thickness.Sch.glmdir --sim mc-z 1 2 teste --sim-sign abs --overwrite --cache 1.3 abs It takes only a few seconds to run. I have a few questions about how to run it: 1) How the single entry for each subject

Re: [Freesurfer] Monte Carlo simulation - Longitudinal Pipeline

2014-04-14 Thread Douglas N Greve
On 04/14/2014 10:35 AM, Pedro Rosa wrote: > Dear Doug and Jorge, > I tried what you suggested and I think it work, although I have some > concerns. > I am working with a longitudinal study with two time-points for all > subjects, three categorical variables (group, substance abuse / > dependenc

Re: [Freesurfer] Monte Carlo simulation - Longitudinal Pipeline

2014-04-14 Thread Pedro Rosa
Dear Doug and Jorge, I tried what you suggested and I think it work, although I have some concerns.I am working with a longitudinal study with two time-points for all subjects, three categorical variables (group, substance abuse / dependence and

Re: [Freesurfer] Monte Carlo simulation - Longitudinal Pipeline

2014-03-31 Thread Pedro Rosa
Thanks, Doug! Should I run the mri_preproc and and smooth the output using mri_surf2surf with, let’s say, 10mm, and than run the LME normally in MatLab? Would this be problematic with a different smoothing procedure in mri_glmfit? How will mri_glmfit deal with the longitudinal design? Does this

Re: [Freesurfer] Monte Carlo simulation - Longitudinal Pipeline

2014-03-30 Thread Douglas Greve
I think I would just run mri_glmfit on your data to get the proper directly structure and estimate of FWHM, then copy the sig file from the mixed fx analysis into the glmfit folder for one of the contrasts. Then run mri_glmfit-sim. doug On 3/29/14 10:29 AM, Pedro Rosa wrote: Dear Doug and

Re: [Freesurfer] Monte Carlo simulation - Longitudinal Pipeline

2014-03-29 Thread Pedro Rosa
Dear Doug and Jorge, Thank you very much for your help. I found another message in the list (https://mail.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/pipermail//freesurfer/2013-November/034649.html) in which you suggested a way of using MC in mri_glmfit-sim by creating “fake files”, which would not be read by the scrip

Re: [Freesurfer] Monte Carlo simulation - Longitudinal Pipeline

2014-03-28 Thread Douglas N Greve
Jorge, do you output the FWHM? doug On 03/27/2014 03:14 PM, jorge luis wrote: > Hi Pedro > > Sorry, right now the only multiple comparisons corrections implemented > in lme are the original Benjamini and Hochberg (1995) FDR procedure > (lme_mass_FDR) and a more recent and powerful two-stage FDR

Re: [Freesurfer] Monte Carlo simulation - Longitudinal Pipeline

2014-03-27 Thread jorge luis
Hi Pedro Sorry, right now the only multiple comparisons corrections implemented in lme are the original Benjamini and Hochberg (1995) FDR procedure (lme_mass_FDR) and a more recent and powerful two-stage FDR procedure (lme_mass_FDR2): Benjamini, Y., Krieger, A.M., Yekutieli, D. (2006). Adaptive

Re: [Freesurfer] Monte Carlo simulation - Longitudinal Pipeline

2014-03-25 Thread Pedro Rosa
Dear Doug, Thank you very much! I will try what you suggested, although I am not sure if Jorge's stream outputs the FMHM, or if I would need to run the statistics from the beggining using in the terminal, and not in MatLab. Do you think Jorge could comment on this issue? Regards, Pedro Rosa. On

Re: [Freesurfer] Monte Carlo simulation - Longitudinal Pipeline

2014-03-24 Thread Douglas Greve
In theory, it should be possible. I have not used Jorge's stream, so I don't know that much about it. Does it save an estimate of the FWHM? If so, then you can run mri_surfcluster passing it the p-value (ie, -log10(p)) map, the FWHM, the mask, and a voxel-wise threshold. This is what mri_glmfi

[Freesurfer] Monte Carlo simulation - Longitudinal Pipeline

2014-03-22 Thread Pedro Rosa
Dear list, I ran the recon-all and the Freesurfer 5.1 longitudinal pipeline in a structural MRI dataset and I would like to use Monte Carlo as the method for correction for multiple comparisons. However, the longitudinal LME tutorial includes only FDR correction (lme_mass_FDR2). Is it possible

Re: [Freesurfer] Monte Carlo Simulation Precomputed Data

2014-01-28 Thread Douglas N Greve
All vertices in the cluster will have this value. It can be found in the "summary" file in each contrast. It is the final clusterwise p-value, ie, the probability of seeing a cluster of the given size by random chance. doug On 01/28/2014 05:07 PM, Natasha Haris wrote: > Where does it appear

Re: [Freesurfer] Monte Carlo Simulation Precomputed Data

2014-01-28 Thread Douglas N Greve
QDEC computes it On 01/28/2014 04:52 PM, Natasha Haris wrote: > And does the monte carlo precomputed simulation data in the QDEC GUI > compute this final p-value? Or do I need to use any commands namely > mri_glmfit? > > > On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 1:38 PM, Douglas N Greve > mailto:gr...@nmr.mg

Re: [Freesurfer] Monte Carlo Simulation Precomputed Data

2014-01-28 Thread Douglas N Greve
The cluster-forming threshold is needed to define what the clusters are. Once you have a cluster forming threshold, you get clusters with a certain size. Given the size, the FWHM, the cluster forming threshold, and the search space, a p-value for the cluster is computed. On 01/28/2014 03:58 PM

Re: [Freesurfer] Monte Carlo Simulation Precomputed Data

2014-01-28 Thread harisnatasha
So sorry for all the beginner questions. One more. Then what is the point of running the Monte Carlo simulation with a cluster-forming threshold of p<0.01 or any other threshold for that matter if I already know what the clusterwise threshold min should be? Natasha > On Jan 28, 2014, at 1

Re: [Freesurfer] Monte Carlo Simulation Precomputed Data

2014-01-28 Thread Douglas N Greve
Yes On 01/28/2014 03:35 PM, Natasha Haris wrote: > So then how does one determine what should go into the Threshold min > box? (If it's usually p<0.05 should the clusterwise corrected > Threshold min be 1.3?) > > Natasha > > > On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 12:30 PM, Douglas N Greve > mailto:gr...@n

Re: [Freesurfer] Monte Carlo Simulation Precomputed Data

2014-01-28 Thread Natasha Haris
So then how does one determine what should go into the Threshold min box? (If it's usually p<0.05 should the clusterwise corrected Threshold min be 1.3?) Natasha On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 12:30 PM, Douglas N Greve wrote: > > On 01/28/2014 03:26 PM, Natasha Haris wrote: > >> Oops sorry! >> >> I g

Re: [Freesurfer] Monte Carlo Simulation Precomputed Data

2014-01-28 Thread Douglas N Greve
On 01/28/2014 03:26 PM, Natasha Haris wrote: > Oops sorry! > > I guess my question then is, after running the monte carlo simulation > with this cluster-forming threshold (p<0.01), is there a specific > corrected (clusterwise) threshold I can/am supposed to place in the > Threshold min box? Or

Re: [Freesurfer] Monte Carlo Simulation Precomputed Data

2014-01-28 Thread Natasha Haris
Oops sorry! I guess my question then is, after running the monte carlo simulation with this cluster-forming threshold (p<0.01), is there a specific corrected (clusterwise) threshold I can/am supposed to place in the Threshold min box? Or are these two not related in any way. Natasha On Tue, Jan

Re: [Freesurfer] Monte Carlo Simulation Precomputed Data

2014-01-28 Thread Douglas N Greve
Hi Natasha, please remember to post to the list! When you say a different set of blobs, do you mean that none of the original blobs are there? Or do some of the blobs just disappear? Note that the threshold you use in the simulation is not related to the "Threshold Min". In this case, the Thre

Re: [Freesurfer] Monte Carlo Simulation Precomputed Data

2014-01-28 Thread Douglas N Greve
Yes, when looking at the corrected images, the Threshold Min because the clusterwise threshold. So if you want to see only clusters that have a clusterwise p<.05, set that threshold to 1.3 doug On 01/28/2014 02:24 PM, Natasha Haris wrote: > The clusterwise simulation runs with a p<0.05 thr

Re: [Freesurfer] Monte Carlo Simulation Precomputed Data

2014-01-27 Thread Douglas N Greve
On 01/24/2014 11:54 AM, Natasha Haris wrote: > Dear Freesurfers, > > I am slightly confused about the monte carlo simulation. > > First off, I only find a blob when I run the p<0.05 threshold level and don't > see anything else when I run simulations with p less than that. What does > this mean?

[Freesurfer] Monte Carlo Simulation Precomputed Data

2014-01-24 Thread Natasha Haris
Dear Freesurfers, I am slightly confused about the monte carlo simulation. First off, I only find a blob when I run the p<0.05 threshold level and don't see anything else when I run simulations with p less than that. What does this mean? Additionally, when I click on any question of interest

Re: [Freesurfer] Monte Carlo Simulation in Qdec

2013-09-24 Thread Douglas N Greve
rvard.edu > Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2013 10:36:14 AM > Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Monte Carlo Simulation in Qdec > > > Hi Tara, > You can try with fwhm=0 as Doug suggested, or 5 if it works. I'm still trying > to see whether the level of fwhm could be modified in qdec

Re: [Freesurfer] Monte Carlo Simulation in Qdec

2013-09-24 Thread Tara Ann Miskovich
k Schmansky" , freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu Sent: Wednesday, September 4, 2013 10:36:14 AM Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Monte Carlo Simulation in Qdec Hi Tara, You can try with fwhm=0 as Doug suggested, or 5 if it works. I'm still trying to see whether the level of fwhm could be modified in q

Re: [Freesurfer] Monte Carlo Simulation in Qdec

2013-09-04 Thread Marie Schaer
Hi Tara, You can try with fwhm=0 as Doug suggested, or 5 if it works. I'm still trying to see whether the level of fwhm could be modified in qdec so that you can input your own level (e.g. 1 or 2, instead of the specified 0-5-10-15-20-25). Nick, Do you know if there is a keyword that can be cha

Re: [Freesurfer] Monte Carlo Simulation in Qdec

2013-09-04 Thread Douglas N Greve
Hi Tara, The problem is that the lGI is already very smooth and then it gets smoothed again. This causes the total smoothness level to go beyond what has been done for the simulation. Try using fwhm=0. doug On 09/04/2013 09:48 AM, Tara Ann Miskovich wrote: > Hello, > > I am conducting group a

[Freesurfer] Monte Carlo Simulation in Qdec

2013-09-04 Thread Tara Ann Miskovich
Hello, I am conducting group analyses with LGI data in qdec, and I am having an issue with the monte carlo simulation I am hoping to get help with. Under design I leave the Smoothing (FWHM) at 10, and when I try to run the monte carlo simulation after running the analysis I get this error: Err

Re: [Freesurfer] Monte Carlo simulation: Talairach coordinates

2013-07-02 Thread Douglas N Greve
>>>>>>> 1.86776 1.0 -0.00010 1.0 >>>>>>>>> 125 4 32.0 64.00 23.00 76.00 >>>>>>>>> 1.86629 1.0 -0.00010 1.0 >>>>>>>>> 126

Re: [Freesurfer] Monte Carlo simulation: Talairach coordinates

2013-07-02 Thread Douglas N Greve
;>>> 1.81496 1.0 -0.00010 1.0 >>>>>>> 135 2 16.0 9.007.00 43.00 >>>>>>> 1.80712 1.0 -0.00010 1.0 >>>>>>> 136 1 8.0 36.002.00 53.00 >&g

Re: [Freesurfer] Monte Carlo simulation: Talairach coordinates

2013-07-02 Thread Emily Boeke
t;> 1.79309 1.0 -0.00010 1.0 >>>>>> 142 4 32.0 61.00 43.00 84.00 >>>>>> 1.78916 1.0 -0.00010 1.0 >>>>>> 143 1 8.0 13.00 13.00 34.00 >>&

Re: [Freesurfer] Monte Carlo simulation: Talairach coordinates

2013-07-02 Thread Douglas N Greve
t;>>>> 148 1 8.0 24.001.00 50.00 1.77625 >>>>> 1.0 -0.00010 1.0 >>>>> 149 1 8.0 3.00 35.00 84.00 1.77073 >>>>> 1.0 -0.00010 1.0 >>

Re: [Freesurfer] Monte Carlo simulation: Talairach coordinates

2013-07-01 Thread Emily Boeke
28.00 67.00 70.00 1.74531 >>> 1.0 -0.00010 1.0 >>> 163 1 8.0 4.00 33.00 30.00 1.74303 >>> 1.0 -0.00010 1.0 >>> 164 1 8.0 69.00 20.00 74.00

Re: [Freesurfer] Monte Carlo simulation: Talairach coordinates

2013-06-28 Thread Douglas N Greve
3 >> 1.0 -0.00010 1.0 >> 171 1 8.0 25.00 65.00 86.00 1.72933 >> 1.0 -0.00010 1.0 >> 172 1 8.0 40.00 10.00 56.00 1.72897 >> 1.0 -0.00010 1.0 >>

Re: [Freesurfer] Monte Carlo simulation: Talairach coordinates

2013-06-28 Thread Emily Boeke
00010 1.0 > 181 1 8.0 51.007.00 19.00 1.70870 > 1.0 -0.00010 1.0 > 182 1 8.0 43.001.00 48.00 1.70621 > 1.0 -0.00010 1.0 > 183 1 8.0 22.00 36.00 41.00

Re: [Freesurfer] Monte Carlo simulation: Talairach coordinates

2013-06-26 Thread Emily Boeke
1.0 Date: Tue, 25 Jun 2013 12:22:23 -0400 From: Douglas N Greve Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] Monte Carlo simulation: Talairach coordinates To: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu Message-ID: <51c9c3bf.7000...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=

Re: [Freesurfer] Monte Carlo simulation: Talairach coordinates

2013-06-25 Thread Douglas N Greve
can you send the file? On 06/25/2013 10:08 AM, Emily Boeke wrote: > Hi All, > > I'm running Monte Carlo simulations on functional data, and the coordinate > information outputted in the cluster.summary file isn't making sense. Usually > the coordinates for the clusters listed are Talairach coord

[Freesurfer] Monte Carlo simulation: Talairach coordinates

2013-06-25 Thread Emily Boeke
Hi All, I'm running Monte Carlo simulations on functional data, and the coordinate information outputted in the cluster.summary file isn't making sense. Usually the coordinates for the clusters listed are Talairach coordinates, but in the .summary files I'm getting, the coordinates are labeled

Re: [Freesurfer] Monte Carlo simulation

2013-06-05 Thread jm
On 06/05/2013 10:17 AM, std...@virgilio.it wrote: > Hi list, > > I performed Monte Carlo simulation on my cortical thickness analysis. > Now, I have significant clusters in the map for p<0.05. Is possible to > obstain form each significant cluster the real value of p? > > Thanks, > > > Stefano > >

Re: [Freesurfer] Monte Carlo simulation

2013-06-05 Thread Douglas Greve
what do you mean by the real value of p? On 6/5/13 10:17 AM, std...@virgilio.it wrote: Hi list, I performed Monte Carlo simulation on my cortical thickness analysis. Now, I have significant clusters in the map for p<0.05. Is possible to obstain form each significant cluster the real value of

[Freesurfer] Monte Carlo simulation

2013-06-05 Thread stdp82
Hi list, I performed Monte Carlo simulation on my cortical thickness analysis. Now, I have significant clusters in the map for p<0.05. Is possible to obstain form each significant cluster the real value of p? Thanks, Stefano ___ Freesurfer mailing li

Re: [Freesurfer] monte carlo simulation question

2012-02-15 Thread Douglas N Greve
our help > Regards > Koushik > > > From: Douglas N Greve [gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu] > Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 10:41 AM > To: Govindarajan, Koushik Athreya > Cc: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu > Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] monte carlo simulation question > > In pr

Re: [Freesurfer] monte carlo simulation question

2012-02-15 Thread Govindarajan, Koushik Athreya
From: Douglas N Greve [gr...@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu] Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 10:41 AM To: Govindarajan, Koushik Athreya Cc: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] monte carlo simulation question In principal, it should be the same

Re: [Freesurfer] monte carlo simulation question

2012-02-15 Thread Douglas N Greve
AM > To: Govindarajan, Koushik Athreya > Cc: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu > Subject: Re: [Freesurfer] monte carlo simulation question > > Hi Koushik, download this file and copy it into the mri/transforms directory > ftp://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/transfer/outgoing/flat/greve/talaira

Re: [Freesurfer] monte carlo simulation question

2012-02-15 Thread Govindarajan, Koushik Athreya
: [Freesurfer] monte carlo simulation question Hi Koushik, download this file and copy it into the mri/transforms directory ftp://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/transfer/outgoing/flat/greve/talairach.xfm Then rerun mri_glmfit-sim with the --no-sim option so that it picks up where it left off. You will need to give

Re: [Freesurfer] monte carlo simulation question

2012-02-15 Thread Douglas N Greve
Hi Koushik, download this file and copy it into the mri/transforms directory ftp://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/transfer/outgoing/flat/greve/talairach.xfm Then rerun mri_glmfit-sim with the --no-sim option so that it picks up where it left off. You will need to give the "csdbase" which you passed i

[Freesurfer] monte carlo simulation question

2012-02-15 Thread Govindarajan, Koushik Athreya
Hello group, I am running the multiple comparisons simulation after my mri_glmfit finished. I see that it went through all the iterations and then quit with the following error message it could not find the talairach.xfm file in my average brain. I did not use the fsaverage and instead

Re: [Freesurfer] Monte Carlo Simulation algoritm for multiple comparisons correction

2011-11-03 Thread Douglas N Greve
Hi Alex, try reading these papers: ftp://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/transfer/outgoing/flat/greve/hayasaka.2003.ni.1014.clustersize.pdf ftp://surfer.nmr.mgh.harvard.edu/transfer/outgoing/flat/greve/hagler.2006.ni.surfcluster.pdf if you still have questions, feel free to ask. doug Alexander Ivano

[Freesurfer] Monte Carlo Simulation algoritm for multiple comparisons correction

2011-11-03 Thread Alexander Ivanov
*Dear Freesurfer Users and Developers, * Could you please help me to clarify the key steps implemented into the Monte Carlo approach for multiple comparisons correction? As far as I understood, it consists of running many permutations for fitting the measurements of different ROI sizes, which are b

Re: [Freesurfer] monte-carlo simulation question

2009-07-02 Thread Douglas N Greve
Have you looked at mri_glmfit-sim --help yet? doug Prapti Gautam wrote: Dear Freesurfers, I ran a monte carlo simulation for thickness analyses using mri_glmfit and found new files in the contrast subdirectory. I was able to figure out what the first two represent, but was wondering if a

[Freesurfer] monte-carlo simulation question

2009-07-01 Thread Prapti Gautam
Dear Freesurfers, I ran a monte carlo simulation for thickness analyses using mri_glmfit and found new files in the contrast subdirectory. I was able to figure out what the first two represent, but was wondering if any one could clarify what information the rest of the files show: mc-z.nega

RE: [Freesurfer] Monte carlo simulation for multiple comparison on asurface

2008-11-04 Thread Cibu
Zhangyuanchao Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 9:20 AM To: freesurfer@nmr.mgh.harvard.edu Subject: [Freesurfer] Monte carlo simulation for multiple comparison on asurface Dear Mr or Ms, How can I do Monte carlo simulation for multiple comparison correction on a surface. which command should I

[Freesurfer] Monte carlo simulation for multiple comparison on a surface

2008-11-04 Thread Zhangyuanchao
Dear Mr or Ms, How can I do Monte carlo simulation for multiple comparison correction on a surface. which command should I launch? I also want to know about permutation test. could you tell me how to use them? yczhang - 雅虎邮箱,您的终生邮箱!

[Freesurfer] Monte carlo simulation and permutation test

2008-11-04 Thread Zhangyuanchao
Dear Mr or Ms, How can I do Monte carlo simulation for multiple comparison correction? I also want to know about permutation test. could you tell me how to use them? yczhang - 雅虎邮箱,您的终生邮箱!___ Freesurfer ma

Re: [Freesurfer] Monte Carlo Simulation w/ custom design matrix

2008-04-18 Thread Jerry Yeou-Wei Chen
Actually, I do have the fwhm.dat file... I was just commenting on how obvious that should have been to me! Thanks, though! - Jerry On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 10:56 AM, Pratap Kunwar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Jerry, > > can you post your command lines and log file? there should be fwhm.dat > along

Re: [Freesurfer] Monte Carlo Simulation w/ custom design matrix

2008-04-18 Thread Pratap Kunwar
Jerry, can you post your command lines and log file? there should be fwhm.dat along with the y.fsgd. > How did I miss that??? > Thanks! > - Jerry > > On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 3:01 PM, Doug Greve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >> there should be a fwhm.dat file in the output. >> >> doug >> >> >> J

Re: [Freesurfer] Monte Carlo Simulation w/ custom design matrix

2008-04-18 Thread Jerry Yeou-Wei Chen
How did I miss that??? Thanks! - Jerry On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 3:01 PM, Doug Greve <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > there should be a fwhm.dat file in the output. > > doug > > > Jerry Yeou-Wei Chen wrote: > > Hello, > > I have a question regarding performing Monte Carlo simulations when a > custom d

Re: [Freesurfer] Monte Carlo Simulation w/ custom design matrix

2008-04-17 Thread Doug Greve
there should be a fwhm.dat file in the output. doug Jerry Yeou-Wei Chen wrote: Hello, I have a question regarding performing Monte Carlo simulations when a custom design matrix is being used. The wiki says that "For both MC simulations, you must supply the smoothness of your data as Full-Wi

[Freesurfer] Monte Carlo Simulation w/ custom design matrix

2008-04-17 Thread Jerry Yeou-Wei Chen
Hello, I have a question regarding performing Monte Carlo simulations when a custom design matrix is being used. The wiki says that "For both MC simulations, you must supply the smoothness of your data as Full-Width/Half-Max (FWHM) of the residual. This can be obtained from the ResidualFWHM value