DIS: ping

2007-10-29 Thread Peekee
ping -- Peekee

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Reckless

2007-10-24 Thread Peekee
Quoting Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Peekee wrote: 1+1 = 3 Based on the above: I am the winner there are no rules. How do you figure? egg. -- Peekee

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: CFJ 1767: result FALSE

2007-10-22 Thread Peekee
and judged it in a single message). -- Peekee

Re: DIS: Proto: limited rules

2007-09-28 Thread Peekee
I'm being a bit lazy here. The rule below would need to be Power 3, do I need to specify that in the proposal or what is a good way to word that. Does the AI follow from the power of rules or does that need to be stated also? Quoting Peekee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Proto: &qu

Re: DIS: Proto: limited rules

2007-09-27 Thread Peekee
are fluid. Players are only regulated by rules that are the same fluid as them or emulsion. Fluid for players is tracked by the Registrar and by the Rulekeepor for rules. -- Peekee

Re: DIS: 3rd Grid proto, now Map Pattern Contest

2007-09-24 Thread Peekee
Quoting Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: On 9/24/07, Peekee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Quoting Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On 9/24/07, Peekee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Patterns: >> 1) Line-Pattern: 3 or more contestant of the same party with dist

Re: DIS: 3rd Grid proto, now Map Pattern Contest

2007-09-24 Thread Peekee
Quoting Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: On 9/24/07, Peekee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Patterns: 1) Line-Pattern: 3 or more contestant of the same party with distinct collinear coordinates. Provided no item on the Agoran map breaks their line. What does it mean for an item on the

Re: DIS: Proto: limited rules

2007-09-24 Thread Peekee
Quoting Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: On 9/24/07, Peekee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Players are only regulated by rules that have the same charge as them or neutral charge. The analogy to electrical charges doesn't seem to hold up very well. -root Could not think of n

DIS: 3rd Grid proto, now Map Pattern Contest

2007-09-24 Thread Peekee
Proto-contest: Map Patterns Setup: 1) This Contest is known as the "Map Pattern Contest". 2) The Contestmaster is Peekee. 3) Any player may enter the contest by announcement. 4) Contestants may leave by announcement. 5) The Contestmaster may change these terms by announcement. Provide

DIS: Proto: limited rules

2007-09-24 Thread Peekee
Create a rule titled "Charges" to read as follows: Charge is a switch with values +ve, -ne and neutral (default). Players and rules are the only entities that posses a charge. Players are only regulated by rules that have the same charge as them or neutral charge. -- Peekee

Re: DIS: proto contest: Grid

2007-09-20 Thread Peekee
Quoting Zefram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Peekee wrote: 1) A line must contain at least two distinct coordinates. "points", not "coordinates". But actually a line by definition contains an infinite number of points. You might also want to make it explicit that the coo

Re: DIS: proto contest: Grid

2007-09-20 Thread Peekee
Proto-contest: Grid Setup: 1) This Contest is known as the "Grid Contest". 2) The Contestmaster is Peekee. 3) Any player may enter the contest by announcement. 4) Contestants may leave by announcement. 5) The Contestmaster may change these terms by announcement. Provided that e has

Re: DIS: proto contest: Grid

2007-09-20 Thread Peekee
Quoting Zefram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Peekee wrote: 1) Contestants may change their coordinates by announcement. Provided they do not move to a coordinate of another contestant. So if you're at (3, 5), I can't move to (3, 8) because I'd have the same X coordinate as y

DIS: proto contest: Grid

2007-09-20 Thread Peekee
Proto-contest: Grid Setup: 1) This Contest is known as the "Grid Contest". 2) The Contestmaster is Peekee. 3) Any player may enter the contest by announcement. 4) Contestants may leave by announcement. 5) The Contestmaster may change these terms by announcement. Provided that e has

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Nominations

2007-09-18 Thread Peekee
Quoting Taral <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: On 9/18/07, Peekee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Quoting Ian Kelly <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On 9/17/07, Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> > I announce the initiation of an Agoran decision for the position of >> &

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: CFJ 1741: assign root

2007-09-18 Thread Peekee
e that is easily readable in plain text. Then any player may declare it invalid by announcement. -- Peekee

Re: DIS: Proto: Variables

2007-09-18 Thread Peekee
exists purely as a mechanism for changing its variable's value. This sheds some new light on my CotC DB maintenance, e.g. update players set active = 'f' where name = 'Quazie' What other game mechanisms can we re-cast using a SQL metaphor? All of them? H anyone ever done a pure programing/sql nomic? -- Peekee

DIS: Proto: Loser

2007-09-17 Thread Peekee
Proto: Loser: Amend rule 1922 appending a clause to read as follows: (e) Loser, to be awarded to any person who looses the game. The Herald's monthly report shall record how the player lost. -- Peekee

DIS: Proto: Variables

2007-09-17 Thread Peekee
have any other value. If an instance of a variable would otherwise fail to have a possible value, it comes to have its default value. -- Peekee

DIS: proto: color-again

2007-09-13 Thread Peekee
Or, Proto: Get some colors. Amend Rule 2126 by appending the following clause after e) f) A player may spend all of their VCs provided e owns at least 6 of different colors to gain a VC of any color defined by the rules. -- Peekee

Re: DIS: proto: Colorful

2007-09-13 Thread Peekee
Quoting Zefram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Peekee wrote: Any player CAN ask the Assessor to handout a VC of that color by announcement. Free VCs? No thanks. It particularly damages the palette win. -zefram I was thinking that it is going to be nearly impossible to get a pallet win (I

DIS: proto: Colorful

2007-09-13 Thread Peekee
s possible. The selected player then gains a VC of the color in question. The Assessor SHALL NOT make more one such announcement a month. -- Peekee

DIS: Re: BUS: Poll on CFJ 1741

2007-09-12 Thread Peekee
r agora) did not pick it up automatically and has no easy option to render it correctly. My work email client (evolution) picked it up no problem. -- Peekee

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: We play on the internet after all

2007-09-11 Thread Peekee
Well-formed or not, the message rendered perfectly for me (albeit in Gmail, which is probably to be expected). If google says it is correct then it is correct. -- Peekee

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proto: Appellate VCs

2007-09-05 Thread Peekee
colours. There are actually an infinite number of real colours (combinations of differing strengths of wavelengths) for any colour we can perceive. So technically there are an infinite number of different greens that are indistinguishable by the human eye. -- Peekee

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proto: More types of judges

2007-08-31 Thread Peekee
So players willing to sit on appeals only would be welcome. -zefram Persons?! -- Peekee

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: I feel, therefore I act

2007-08-31 Thread Peekee
ns and announcements in the game. -- Peekee

Re: DIS: Knaves have plagued Agora for a long time

2007-08-30 Thread Peekee
Here is another way of looking at things. 1) Players make statements. 2) Statements are interpreted by the Gamestate (Rules + Rules defined stuff) and the human beings that play the game (~Players). 3) The statement in 1) may or may not change the game state depending on the interpretation in

Re: DIS: Proto: Shenanigans & contest fixes.

2007-08-30 Thread Peekee
an With 1 Agoran Consent. All points awarded to a player by a contest that is declared a Shenanigan are destroyed. No points may be awarded by the contestmaster of a contest that is declared a Shenanigan. }}} Levi -- Peekee

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ on knavitude

2007-08-29 Thread Peekee
a TTttPF is generally accepted as performing actions even though the main body of the message is a quote, and therefore irrelevant to Rule 2149. -- Peekee

Re: DIS: proto: allow non-player wins

2007-08-28 Thread Peekee
ant, but if a rule/proposal was passed that made George Bush a player I am fairly certain he would not consider himself a player. From an outside perspective e would not be a player even if the rules said so. I don't think being a player can be forced upon entities. -- Peekee

Re: DIS: proto: stronger definition of paradox

2007-08-24 Thread Peekee
ox avoids a lot of woolliness in the first clause of the current R2110, and also makes it easier to establish who should get the win.] }}} Can any entity win? non-players, fish, rocks? -- Peekee

Re: DIS: proto: spending multiple VCs on VVLOP

2007-08-24 Thread Peekee
5 VVLOP 10 VCs 6 VVLOP Numbers could be tweaked though. Wants to be worth saving up a couple more different colors to try and get a bigger gain. Maybe even consider making it non-linear! -- Peekee

Re: DIS: proto: truthfulness in registration

2007-08-23 Thread Peekee
Quoting Zefram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Any entity that CANNOT register MUST NOT make such an announcement. What does this actually do? A non-player entity violates the rules. So what? -- Peekee

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Votes

2007-08-21 Thread Peekee
of "unless" existed in formal logic. I've always used it to mean "if not". -zefram -- Peekee

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: distribution of proposals 5147-5171

2007-08-21 Thread Peekee
ng the naming of coauthors, since people collaborate on protos all the time. -- Peekee

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: distribution of proposals 5147-5171

2007-08-20 Thread Peekee
Quoting Zefram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Whence the anti-Zefram movement? -zefram Damn he's on to us. Move to plan B. -- Peekee

DIS: Re: BUS: Herald

2007-08-20 Thread Peekee
How reckless of you. Quoting Roger Hicks <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: With Agoran consent, I install Peekee to the office of Herald. BobTHJ -- Peekee

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: proposal: fix switch definitions

2007-08-17 Thread Peekee
ng it (which is what "flip" is). Explicate for both definitions whether a null change counts.] So "I become active" will no longer be an acceptable variant of "I flip my activity to active"? -root -- Peekee

Re: DIS: Proto: recognize holidays

2007-08-17 Thread Peekee
RAINBOW! Not a colo(u)r but it should be special. I'm open to suggestions on an appropriate color. Mauve is my current choice. - Benjamin Schultz KE3OM OscarMeyr -- Peekee

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Register

2007-08-16 Thread Peekee
Hmmm I was going to cfj but I cant think of an argument that does not use avatars in some form. Quoting Zefram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Peekee wrote: I register as a player. No you don't. Aren't you lucky R2145 doesn't apply to non-players. -zefram -- Peekee

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: CFJ 1719: result FALSE

2007-08-16 Thread Peekee
Quoting Zefram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Peekee wrote: I support this proposal (in that I want to become a player again). You made your bed, you must lie in it. If comex hadn't deregistered you, I was pondering doing so. I'd have done it in conditional form so that I didn'

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: CFJ 1719: assign Zefram

2007-08-16 Thread Peekee
Prize for being registered for the shortest amount of time goes to... Quoting Zefram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Peekee thereby deregistered emself, so I judge FALSE. -- Peekee

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: CFJ 1719: result FALSE

2007-08-16 Thread Peekee
I support this proposal (in that I want to become a player again). I submit the following proposal: make Peekee a player AI=1 Upon the adoption of this proposal, the following actions occur in order: 1. Rule 869 is amended to remove the sentence "E CANNOT register within thirty days

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: CFJ 1719: assign Zefram

2007-08-13 Thread Peekee
Quoting Zefram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Zefram, is there any chance of hurrying the judgment of this. I do not want to attempt any actions (Voting etc) whilst my being a player is in doubt. Statement: Peekee is a player Peekee, what are the circumstances around the sending o

DIS: Re: BUS: Intent to ratify

2007-08-13 Thread Peekee
Quoting Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: I intend to ratify the VC holdings listed in the Assessor's Report that I published within the past hour. Could that cause problems if it turns out I am not a player anymore? -- Peekee

Re: DIS: Pseudo-judgement of CFJ 1718

2007-08-09 Thread Peekee
tate. Surely it is best to resolve the issue in the safety of the discussion forum rather than with messages that would effect the game state. -- Peekee

DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ: Fnord!

2007-08-08 Thread Peekee
Quoting [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I CFJ on the following: Peekee submitted an email to the agora-discussion forum containing "Fnord!" -- Peekee I would urge Judge root to Judge TRUE. If I am foolish enough to allow other people/Players to send email as if from me. Then those message

DIS: Re: BUS: What is the title of this proposal?

2007-08-08 Thread Peekee
sal in that message, or was it just a proto? It's not clear to me. I initially took it as a proto, but it lacks your usual "proto-proposal:" header, and also lacks the common "proposal:" that would label it as a proposal submission. -zefram -- Peekee

DIS: Re: BUS: What is the title of this proposal?

2007-08-08 Thread Peekee
atements that e believes are true. Upon the adoption of this proposal, Eris becomes a knave. -- Peekee

Re: DIS: Is anyone going to bite?

2007-08-08 Thread Peekee
s are insecure) -- Peekee

Re: DIS: Votes

2007-08-07 Thread Peekee
1. Following Murphy's VC spending and the end of the week, your EVLOP is now 3, so you'll be able to cast 3 votes on ordinary proposals in the next batch (tomorrow) and the batch after that (2007-08-11). -zefram -- Peekee

DIS: Re: OFF: (no subject)

2007-08-06 Thread Peekee
argh sorry my bad -- Peekee

DIS: CFJs

2007-08-06 Thread Peekee
Where is the archive of CFJs?

Re: DIS: Proto-rebuttal

2007-08-06 Thread Peekee
Quoting Zefram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Peekee wrote: I am left wondering what part of Rule 754 I "violated": FWIW, the way I read rule 754 it doesn't impose any obligations on anyone, and so is incapable of being violated. -zefram Thanks thats a bit more brief than my version. -- Peekee

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: RAR

2007-08-06 Thread Peekee
booo you're no fun Quoting Ed Murphy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Peekee wrote: I register as a *player* . Channeling Syllepsis, are we? 'whois peeke

DIS: Proto-rebuttal

2007-08-06 Thread Peekee
Quoting Zefram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: H. Peekee, you are hereby informed that criminal cases 1715-1716 have been initiated in which you are the defendant, and invited to rebut the arguments for your guilt. The pre-trial phases end one week from this m

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: RAR

2007-08-03 Thread Peekee
Quoting Zefram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Peekee wrote: I register as a PLAYER . Are you the same Peekee who was a player intermittently up t

Fwd: Re: DIS: proto: clarify Mother, May I?

2007-08-03 Thread Peekee
should learn to reply to list - Forwarded message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2007 13:27:22 +0100 From: Peekee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Peekee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: DIS: proto: clarify Mother, May I? To: Zefram <[EMAIL PROTECTE

DIS: Re: OFF: result of CFJ 1700

2007-07-30 Thread Peekee
Jon says that the fact there is "rather weak evidence" that he is a Person is a conclusion that most of his friends have come to. Disappointed though it would have been more fun if there was some precedent set for Jon not being a Person. -- Peekee Quoting Zefram <[EM

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Ambassador] Ambassador's report for July 17, 2007

2007-07-18 Thread Peekee
hould interact with then what would the default/common-sense interpretation be? Peekee On 7/17/07, Peekee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On behalf of Agora I hereby repeal all rules, regulations, terms and any and all other parts of the Primo Coporation and its charter. The Primo Coporatio

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proto: The Republic of Agora

2007-07-17 Thread Peekee
e's no formal process to reconcile the two versions: it's a question of who gets bored first, or whether the Lords gets sufficiently intimidated by a threat of the Parliament Act. -zefram What about all the devolved governments? -- Peekee

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: PAP1

2007-07-11 Thread Peekee
Quoting Zefram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Peekee wrote: The partnership would have devolved all of its obligation. Obligations are only devolved onto parties of the agreement. The parties onto which the obligations are devolved number at least two. Hmm. You might have found a bug the

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: PAP1

2007-07-11 Thread Peekee
Quoting Zefram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Peekee wrote: Does it need to pass all of its obligations onto all of its members? Yes, that's how "member" is defined. -zefram A binding agreement governed by the rules which devolves its legal obligations onto a

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: PAP1

2007-07-11 Thread Peekee
Quoting Zefram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Peekee wrote: What are the rules that specify that obligations of a Partnership must be devolved to ALL of its members/parties? That's not required. The requirement is that the obligations be devolved onto at least two parties, who are then k

DIS: Re: BUS: PAP1

2007-07-10 Thread Peekee
Quoting Zefram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Peekee wrote: 3. The sole purpose of this Agreement is to create a Partnership for the nomic Agora. The Parties of this Agreement are the Members of the Partnership. ... 6. Peekee shall ensure that the Partnership satisfies all obligations t

DIS: Proto-Agreement

2007-07-09 Thread Peekee
Would this Agreement be sufficient to create a partnership (provided XXX was something sensible)? Comments and suggestions please. Thanks, Peekee Terms of Agrement 1. This Agreement is between Peekee (of the email address [EMAIL PROTECTED]) and XXX. 2. The sole purpose of

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proto: Three-Tone Economics

2007-07-05 Thread Peekee
Quoting Zefram <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: guess he is just being quirky then. Peekee wrote: I believe accountants(?) etc. use that rounding fairly often. No. Bankers' rounding is nearest-or-even. That's also the usual mode for binary floating point arithmetic. -zefram -- Peekee

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proto: Three-Tone Economics

2007-07-05 Thread Peekee
are rounded up the numbers tend to be higher than they should. -- Peekee

DIS: Re: BUS: Proto: Three-Tone Economics

2007-07-05 Thread Peekee
the contest, unless e was contestmaster of a different contest for at least 3 days of the previous week. A player with 100 or more points may win the game by announcing this fact. Upon such an announcement, each player's score is set to zero. -- Peekee

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: PHAPN's more details

2007-07-04 Thread Peekee
iction in Time. 2) There is a restriction to part of the "super-ruleset" (containing Laws and ruleset). 3) There is a restriction on method, Agora can not change the rules with Agora's current ruleset. 4) There is also a restriction on method. Agora can only change the rules as specified with in Agora's rules. Peekee