Re: cos of data plans was Re: Jailbreaking and some solutions?
then iw ould shove the phone up their assorted orifaces On Feb 3, 2011, at 1:20 AM, Scott Granados wrote: > There are a lot of price points. Sprint wasn't bad although some objected to > having to pay the 4G fee in non 4G citis. > > The unlimited policy was definitely nice. > > I just tried to get the unlimited upgrade and no dice. Told me to go > to Verizon.:) > > > On Feb 2, 2011, at 5:21 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> Actually TMobile charges $19 for unlimited which is about half of what at&t >> would charge if they still had unlimited plans, well they sort of do now but >> yeah. >> >> S >> On Feb 2, 2011, at 4:28 PM, Michael Thurman wrote: >> >>> not when t mobile only charges 10 for the same service and only at and t >>> and verizon have I phones apple should hav ejust let everyone hav I phones >>> now if they are not careful android will kill the I phone if I could see >>> I'd have a droid in a heartbeat >>> On Feb 2, 2011, at 4:15 PM, Scott Granados wrote: >>> Well if you have a hotspot enabled you'll use more bandwidth. What's wrong with paying for that? I'm with you, I know the carriers can nickel and dime with the best of them but this doesn't seem unreasonable. What they charge for texting is unreasonable now that they should reduce.:) On Feb 2, 2011, at 1:09 PM, Michael Thurman wrote: > it's assanine that they want to charge more for tha thot spot I'm sick > of getting jacked over by these companies > > On Jan 30, 2011, at 4:29 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> If att and vz would bundle the hotspot in with out charging then I would >> nit consider jailbreaking. >> >> On 30/01/2011, at 12:57, Scott Granados wrote: >> >>> That's what I'm reading. >>> >>> Honestly I'm thinking just holding out. Really the only reason I'd >>> jailbreak would be to have a WiFi hotspot. >>> >>> On Jan 30, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote: >>> Apple didn't make cydia. It was made by someone who goes by the name Saurik who is involved with a group of people that call themselves the iPhone dev team - they have nothing to do with apple. Tethered jailbreaks really aren't worth it imo scott. On 30/01/2011, Scott Granados wrote: > Rose, this is fantastic. > > Thanks for this resource! > > On Jan 30, 2011, at 12:55 AM, Rose Morales wrote: > >> I have written two extensive articles on jailbreaking. They can be >> found >> at >> http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-101-introduction-blind-perspective >> and >> http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-104-installing-jailbreak-apps-using-cyder-2 >> >> Also, Icy went open source, and you can download a new version >> designed >> for OS 4, as described in jb104. If you wish to install Icy after you >> jailbreak, copy the files in this zip to the autoinstall path for jb >> apps, >> also described in jb104. >> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3819637/Icy.zip. >> JB101 also explains where to find the latest and most reliable >> jailbreak >> information. >> Hth, >> Rose >> On Jan 30, 2011, at 3:27 AM, Scott Granados wrote: >> >>> Would you mind detailing how you did that and the steps you tok to >>> jailbreak. Maybe provide a link? I was thinking of giving it a >>> shot but >>> was talked out of it on the list. I like the idea of a jailbreak >>> process >>> though. >>> >>> I wish the jailbreakme.com one worked for 4.2.1. >>> >>> On Jan 29, 2011, at 8:04 AM, James Malone wrote: >>> Hi guys. Recently I Jailbroke my phone, but have run into an issue. I tried to start Cidia so I could go grab an app, but Voiceover doesn't seem to like it. Suggestions have been made to get Icy, but everything seems to point in the direction of downloading it with Cidia. Besides, Icy isn't being made anymore either, so I've heard. Can anyone suggest what I should do? If worse comes to worsed, I'll grab some sighted asistance. But still, something that was made by the apple Dev team really should be accessible. Anyway, thanks guys. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >
Boiceover silence
Hello my fellow Mac users, it seems that for no good reason in the middle of browsing in the finder or switching between windows, voiceover simply stops. I also cannot turn it back on again. I have recently repaired disk permissions, but for the life of me I cannot figure out why this is happening. Any ideas? Friendly, Chris Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: cos of data plans was Re: Jailbreaking and some solutions?
I already sent a rant to at&t's facebook wall and I erge those that are able to do so. I can't say all as not all of have FB lol! but if not we can always send paper letters and floods of them. Mewhahaha! On Feb 3, 2011, at 12:09 AM, Michael Thurman wrote: > then iw ould shove the phone up their assorted orifaces > > On Feb 3, 2011, at 1:20 AM, Scott Granados wrote: > >> There are a lot of price points. Sprint wasn't bad although some objected >> to having to pay the 4G fee in non 4G citis. >> >> The unlimited policy was definitely nice. >> >> I just tried to get the unlimited upgrade and no dice. Told me to go >> to Verizon.:) >> >> >> On Feb 2, 2011, at 5:21 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> Actually TMobile charges $19 for unlimited which is about half of what at&t >>> would charge if they still had unlimited plans, well they sort of do now >>> but yeah. >>> >>> S >>> On Feb 2, 2011, at 4:28 PM, Michael Thurman wrote: >>> not when t mobile only charges 10 for the same service and only at and t and verizon have I phones apple should hav ejust let everyone hav I phones now if they are not careful android will kill the I phone if I could see I'd have a droid in a heartbeat On Feb 2, 2011, at 4:15 PM, Scott Granados wrote: > Well if you have a hotspot enabled you'll use more bandwidth. What's > wrong with paying for that? > > I'm with you, I know the carriers can nickel and dime with the best of > them but this doesn't seem unreasonable. What they charge for texting is > unreasonable now that they should reduce.:) > > > On Feb 2, 2011, at 1:09 PM, Michael Thurman wrote: > >> it's assanine that they want to charge more for tha thot spot I'm sick >> of getting jacked over by these companies >> >> On Jan 30, 2011, at 4:29 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> If att and vz would bundle the hotspot in with out charging then I >>> would nit consider jailbreaking. >>> >>> On 30/01/2011, at 12:57, Scott Granados >>> wrote: >>> That's what I'm reading. Honestly I'm thinking just holding out. Really the only reason I'd jailbreak would be to have a WiFi hotspot. On Jan 30, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote: > Apple didn't make cydia. It was made by someone who goes by the name > Saurik who is involved with a group of people that call themselves the > iPhone dev team - they have nothing to do with apple. > Tethered jailbreaks really aren't worth it imo scott. > > On 30/01/2011, Scott Granados wrote: >> Rose, this is fantastic. >> >> Thanks for this resource! >> >> On Jan 30, 2011, at 12:55 AM, Rose Morales wrote: >> >>> I have written two extensive articles on jailbreaking. They can be >>> found >>> at >>> http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-101-introduction-blind-perspective >>> and >>> http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-104-installing-jailbreak-apps-using-cyder-2 >>> >>> Also, Icy went open source, and you can download a new version >>> designed >>> for OS 4, as described in jb104. If you wish to install Icy after >>> you >>> jailbreak, copy the files in this zip to the autoinstall path for >>> jb apps, >>> also described in jb104. >>> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3819637/Icy.zip. >>> JB101 also explains where to find the latest and most reliable >>> jailbreak >>> information. >>> Hth, >>> Rose >>> On Jan 30, 2011, at 3:27 AM, Scott Granados wrote: >>> Would you mind detailing how you did that and the steps you tok to jailbreak. Maybe provide a link? I was thinking of giving it a shot but was talked out of it on the list. I like the idea of a jailbreak process though. I wish the jailbreakme.com one worked for 4.2.1. On Jan 29, 2011, at 8:04 AM, James Malone wrote: > Hi guys. Recently I Jailbroke my phone, but have run into an > issue. I > tried to start Cidia so I could go grab an app, but Voiceover > doesn't > seem to like it. Suggestions have been made to get Icy, but > everything > seems to point in the direction of downloading it with Cidia. > Besides, > Icy isn't being made anymore either, so I've heard. Can anyone > suggest > what I should do? If worse comes to worsed, I'll grab some sighted > asistance. But still, something that was made by the apple Dev > team > really shou
Re: Boiceover silence
Hi Chris, I don't have any idea what could be causing this, but have occasionally experienced something similar. In my case, the speech was all that stopped: the various clicks and other sound cues usually still work. I find that a few presses of cmd-f5 restore things to a sane state. This might not be the same problem you're experiencing, but it sounds quite similar at any rate. I hope this helps somewhat, and wish I had more information. Best, Zack. On Thu, 3 Feb 2011 01:12:01 -0700, Chris Snyder wrote: >Hello my fellow Mac users, it seems that for no good reason in the middle of >browsing in the finder or switching between windows, voiceover simply stops. I >also cannot turn it back on again. I have recently repaired disk permissions, >but for the life of me I cannot figure out why this is happening. Any ideas? >Friendly, >Chris > > > >Sent from my iPhone > >-- >You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >"MacVisionaries" group. >To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >For more options, visit this group at >http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
my script: I'm close but it just is not working
Ok I have the code right. it compiled with out errors but the second thing although right will not open the darned file using anything. Here is the code tell application "Skype" activate end tell tell application "Finder" open file "clisk_mac" in home using (application file "terminal") end tell thoughts? -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Boiceover silence
Hi Zack, This problem is similar. When Voiceover goes silent, I don't keep the voiceover clicks. However, the other sounds on the mac are still present. Everything from the volume blerps to the chiming noise when my iPHone syncs. I have tried pressing CMD-F5 several times, but so far the only answer is to hit control-eject, and then the letter R. The computer restarts. Friendly, CHris On Feb 3, 2011, at 1:26 AM, Zachary Kline wrote: > Hi Chris, > I don't have any idea what could be causing this, but have occasionally > experienced something similar. In my > case, the speech was all that stopped: the various clicks and other sound > cues usually still work. I find that > a few presses of cmd-f5 restore things to a sane state. This might not be the > same problem you're > experiencing, but it sounds quite similar at any rate. I hope this helps > somewhat, and wish I had more > information. > Best, > Zack. > On Thu, 3 Feb 2011 01:12:01 -0700, Chris Snyder wrote: > > >> Hello my fellow Mac users, it seems that for no good reason in the middle of >> browsing in the finder or switching between windows, voiceover simply stops. >> I >> also cannot turn it back on again. I have recently repaired disk >> permissions, >> but for the life of me I cannot figure out why this is happening. Any ideas? >> Friendly, >> Chris >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: my script: I'm close but it just is not working
Check what file extension your clisk_mac is and try an absolute path to your file ie ~/clisk_mac.extension -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Boiceover silence
I'ts a bug that has been around for a very veyy very long time. andI mean years. lol! Ok about 2 years but anyway the fix is vo cmd f8 and then escape once the slower voice comes up. S On Feb 3, 2011, at 12:12 AM, Chris Snyder wrote: > Hello my fellow Mac users, it seems that for no good reason in the middle of > browsing in the finder or switching between windows, voiceover simply stops. > I also cannot turn it back on again. I have recently repaired disk > permissions, but for the life of me I cannot figure out why this is > happening. Any ideas? > Friendly, > Chris > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: my script: I'm close but it just is not working
There is no extension for tha tfile it is just "clisk_mac" and before I tried "~clisk_mac" but that failed. On Feb 3, 2011, at 12:40 AM, Yuma Decaux wrote: > Check what file extension your clisk_mac is and try an absolute path to your > file ie ~/clisk_mac.extension > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Boiceover silence
Actually I posted a fix that should e coming through soon but just in case it does not try cmd vo f8 then esc when the slower voice comes. S On Feb 3, 2011, at 12:33 AM, Chris Snyder wrote: > Hi Zack, > This problem is similar. When Voiceover goes silent, I don't keep the > voiceover clicks. However, the other sounds on the mac are still present. > Everything from the volume blerps to the chiming noise when my iPHone syncs. > I have tried pressing CMD-F5 several times, but so far the only answer is to > hit control-eject, and then the letter R. The computer restarts. > > Friendly, > CHris > > > > > On Feb 3, 2011, at 1:26 AM, Zachary Kline wrote: > >> Hi Chris, >> I don't have any idea what could be causing this, but have occasionally >> experienced something similar. In my >> case, the speech was all that stopped: the various clicks and other sound >> cues usually still work. I find that >> a few presses of cmd-f5 restore things to a sane state. This might not be >> the same problem you're >> experiencing, but it sounds quite similar at any rate. I hope this helps >> somewhat, and wish I had more >> information. >> Best, >> Zack. >> On Thu, 3 Feb 2011 01:12:01 -0700, Chris Snyder wrote: >> >> >>> Hello my fellow Mac users, it seems that for no good reason in the middle >>> of >>> browsing in the finder or switching between windows, voiceover simply >>> stops. I >>> also cannot turn it back on again. I have recently repaired disk >>> permissions, >>> but for the life of me I cannot figure out why this is happening. Any >>> ideas? >>> Friendly, >>> Chris >>> >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Accessible games in the Mac App Store
Yes, probably ibiblio.org had its dns information shredded. When that happens you'll either get an error like you did or get redirected to a completely unrelated site. You're the first I know of to have had this problem. Another possibility may be that the ifarchive rsync repository was migrated over to the mirrors.ibiblio.org rsync prefix. You can try going to each of those addresses with rsync and put the -l parameter on the command line and save output to a file and check the files over later. That -l parameter tells the rsync server to send you a list of the repositories available.On Thu, 3 Feb 2011, Eric Oyen wrote: > ok, > I copied that script into a file called get_games.sh and then did a chmod +x > on it. > running it resulted in this error: > > rsync: getaddrinfo: ibiblio.org 873: nodename nor servname provided, or not > known > rsync error: error in socket IO (code 10) at > /SourceCache/rsync/rsync-40/rsync/clientserver.c(105) [receiver=2.6.9] > > > this appears to be a dns lookup error. any suggestions? > > -Eric > > On Feb 3, 2011, at 12:43 AM, Jude DaShiell wrote: > > > Many VoiceOver users with Mac's haven't managed to find all of the games > > you managed to find just yet.On Wed, 2 Feb 2011, Donna Goodin wrote: > > > >> Jude, > >> > >> Why is there a need for this? I've been playing interactive fiction games > >> with no problems. > >> Best, > >> Donna > >> On Feb 2, 2011, at 5:24 AM, Jude DaShiell wrote: > >> > >>> Save the following script to a file then run the script. Remember to > >>> chmod 755 the file name first to make it executeable. It will make an > >>> ifarchive folder tree on your system the first time you run it and expect > >>> it to take a while the first time you run it. Then you run it later and > >>> it will synchronize your collection with the archive. You go into the > >>> ifarchive/starters/ folder among others and start searching for files > >>> with .zx where x is a number and these are the games. You also > >>> downloaded several game playing engines to use too, so do a little > >>> searching and experimentation and you should at least be able to get the > >>> frotz games going on your mac. Cut here. > >>> #!/bin/bash > >>> rsync -rlptDv --bwlimit=0 --timeout=300 --partial --delete \ > >>> ibiblio.org::pub/docs/interactive-fiction/ ~/ifarchive > >>> > >>> cut here. > >>> On Tue, 1 Feb 2011, Isaac Obie wrote: > >>> > Zack, > Jude Dashiell says there're games out there. I just don't understand > how and where. Perhaps he'll explain it again??? > Isaac > - Original Message - From: "Zachary Kline" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, February 01, 2011 10:49 PM > Subject: Re: Accessible games in the Mac App Store > > > > Hi, > > Are you thinking of maccessibility.net? They're still around, as far > > as I > > know. Their podcasts have made for very interesting listening over the > > past while. > > I agree, a compendium of accessible games for the Mac would be very > > nice. > > There are quite a few for the iPhone, but the closest thing to a > > compendium for the Mac I know if is the Mac section of www.pcsgames.net. > > THere is, naturally, a much larger Windows section. > > Unfortunately, my own search for accessible games for Mac has been > > largely > > fruitless thus far. I'll keep the list posted if I find anything. > > Best, > > Zack. > > > > On Feb 1, 2011, at 6:47 PM, Carolyn Haas wrote: > >> Teresa: > >> I like that idea. I've never been one to do games at all on my > > >> computer. So, I haven't a clue where to even look for something that > > >> would be fun, and accessible. I'm lousy at games of strategy like > > >> chess, but I love games with words, riddles and things that make me > > >> think. Anyway, there used to be accessibility.net, for iPhone games. > >> > I've not checked it out and don't know if it's being kept up or > >> would be > a starting place. > >>> If you do decide to do something, I'd be glad to help in any way > > >>> necessary. I love researching stuff. > >>> Keep me posted > >>> Carolyn > >> On Feb 1, 2011, at 7:20 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote: > Hi, all, > > i just found an accessible game in the Mac app store. It's called > > > > Piano Game X and I believe it's $1.99 US. I accidentally > > discovered by > > pressing the spacebar when first starting the > > game that it activated > > the menus. It's a Simon-like game. It > > also has a keyboard to play for > > free style, but there is only > > one full octave. > > Anyhow, has anyone else discovered accessible games in the Mac app > > > > store? I've bought a few, only to discover that they weren't. > > Has > > anyone heard of someone getting together a compendi
Re: iWOrk: VoiceOver Falls Short
I too have noticed a rather gleefully sarcastic tone in a few different podcasts out there when windows users are trying to compare Voiceover to Jaws. Some writers are even malicious. I'm not saying that criticism isn't warranted or worthwhile, but it should be constructive. Apple is the first main stream company who actually wants us to experience their OS in the same way as sighted people. I can't honestly tell sometimes if the snarky critics are afraid of change or if they just enjoy paying $1000 in blind taxes just so they can use a computer the same as a sighted person, (or having the state pay for them to do so.) Rather than snark, why not offer helpful suggestions or things they'd like to see improved rather than snarking at voiceover. If any of those windows users are reading this, I want you all to understand something. I was an avid windows user. I switched to the Mac a year ago. For a long time, I used fusion every day to access things in windows I didn't yet know how to do. Today, I only ever access fusion maybe once every couple of months to pop onto a game server I used to frequent. Your snarky assertions aside, voiceover serves my needs perfectly. Further, I would never want to go back to windows. Snow Leopard and IOS4.2 has freed me far more than Jaws ever did. Access to technology and the things that occur in our daily lives is a civil right, my friends, not a privilege. It's worth remembering. Friendly, Chris . On Feb 2, 2011, at 11:44 PM, brandt wrote: > Hi Tim, > > As a current windows user, I have to say that negative podcasts such as > "Voiceover on" will keep the windows users, windows users and drive newby mac > users away. I am still going to swich, but almost decided not to after > listening to the first 6 episodes of "voiceover is broaken" > > Regards, > > Brandt Steenkamp > > MSN/Windows live: brandt...@live.com > > Google talk: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com > > AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com > > Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 > - Original Message - From: "Tim Kilburn" > To: > Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 8:04 AM > Subject: Re: iWOrk: VoiceOver Falls Short > > > Hi Kevin, > > I spent some time listening to your suggested podcast and am a little annoyed > with your approach and attitude presented within it. While your comments > below suggest a welcomeness to constructive comments and/or workarounds, your > tone within the podcast itself is very critical of VO. Much of this > criticism, in my opinion, is due to a lack of experience with the product > itself. You and your partner appear well versed in the use of JAWS and are > using that wealth of experience to attempt a comparison with a product that > you do not have the same familiarity with. Therefore, your conclusions seem > rather tilted. > > Now, I do appreciate your efforts in providing the podcast episodes, as such > comparisons are useful. Simply to eliminate the judgemental comments would > make them more palatable from my prospective. As I've noticed from much of > the suggestions supplied by Anne Robertson, much of what you criticized with > respect to VO is actually doable. I might also add, that many of these are > not necessarily "workarounds", but really just a different way of approaching > things. For the most part, we all have to realize that VO and the MacOS is > not Windows, nor do I want it to be, so if we must do things a little > differently, then so be it. > > Now for some specifics: > > • In Numbers, you made fun of Numbers saying "B4" with the word "Cell" and > quipped about not needing to hear the word "Cell" since you knew that you > were in a spreadsheet. You also mentioned that there was no way that you > could stop it from saying the word "Cell". In this case, you are inaccurate, > simply set your default verbosity to "Low" and VO will not say the word > "Cell" anymore. > > I will readily admit that JAWS handles MS products very well and I'm not > trying to say that VO handles iWork just as well, my objections are with your > perceived expertise with VO during the comparison and your over-critical > tone. Your obvious comfort level with JAWS allows for the ease of use > whereas that same level of comfort is not apparent for VO. These > inconsistencies are brought home considerably when I read the > comments/suggestions from Anne. > > Maybe, instead of making such judgements, you could preface your comments > with phrases like, "In my experience with VO thus far", or " I haven't > figured out how to do whatever yet, but there may be someone who's more > familiar than me with it". I feel that this would give your podcast a more > professional tone and consequently, add validity to it. In it's current > state, I would not be inclined to listen to further episodes. > > Just my thoughts. > > Later... > > On 2011-01-31, at 3:58 PM, Kevin Chao wrote: > >> Please have a listen to latest, episode 6 of VOiceOVer
Re: Boiceover silence
Hi Zack, This problem is similar. When Voiceover goes silent, I don't keep the voiceover clicks. However, the other sounds on the mac are still present. Everything from the volume blerps to the chiming noise when my iPHone syncs. I have tried pressing CMD-F5 several times, but so far the only answer is to hit control-eject, and then the letter R. The computer restarts. Friendly, CHris On Feb 3, 2011, at 1:26 AM, Zachary Kline wrote: > Hi Chris, > I don't have any idea what could be causing this, but have occasionally > experienced something similar. In my > case, the speech was all that stopped: the various clicks and other sound > cues usually still work. I find that > a few presses of cmd-f5 restore things to a sane state. This might not be the > same problem you're > experiencing, but it sounds quite similar at any rate. I hope this helps > somewhat, and wish I had more > information. > Best, > Zack. > On Thu, 3 Feb 2011 01:12:01 -0700, Chris Snyder wrote: > > >> Hello my fellow Mac users, it seems that for no good reason in the middle of >> browsing in the finder or switching between windows, voiceover simply stops. >> I >> also cannot turn it back on again. I have recently repaired disk >> permissions, >> but for the life of me I cannot figure out why this is happening. Any ideas? >> Friendly, >> Chris >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email > tomacvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: first impressions of the new Skype
Plus there's the fact that it's much quicker to answer phone calls in the new version. Now, whan skype rings the quick answer snaps into focus, something that neither 2.8 nor the beta did. Now if i could just add people who call when i'm in a conference if i so desired that would be just cool. /Krister 3 feb 2011 kl. 02.00 skrev Dane Trethowan: > Course they don't, they've better things to do and they've done it well, the > new product's a damn good one not just for accessibility reasons but > performance reasons, works so much better than the older versions did, I've > only been using it for a couple of days, the interface changes are taking a > little getting used to but I'm finding I like the way things are presented > now and things are less cluttered and presented in a more logical order in a > lot of cases. > > > On 03/02/2011, at 10:24 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > >> I don't think its personal. lol. I don't think they sit around deciding on >> how to screw blind people. SMH >> >> Ricardo Walker >> rwalker...@gmail.com >> Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 >> Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197 >> >> >> >> On Feb 2, 2011, at 4:29 PM, Michael Thurman wrote: >> >>> because the people who write these programs do not care about us or >>> anything about accessibility! I am NOT upgrading til they fix th efact that >>> you can't even run conferences easily anymore >>> >>> On Feb 1, 2011, at 9:57 AM, Rose Morales wrote: >>> The video button is one movement left of the end call button. In other words, you don't go to the toolbar anymore to get to it, the way you would have done in Skype 2.8. The add to conference button which was in the context menu of any user you clicked on in the Skype 5 beta is now gone. The add people button in the menubar still exists though, and there's a shortcut for it, command-shift-a. So although Skype allows for one to add others to conferences easily, they've taken out a familiar option I know and love by removing the add to conference button in the user context menus. Personally, I think that was a dumb move. I don't see why they couldn't keep both options. Hth, Rose On Feb 1, 2011, at 9:36 AM, Søren Jensen wrote: > Hi. > > I have ran the beta of this version, and it took me a while to get used > to. However, I really love the final release. > To inable the video, you have to find the video button in the confrence > window. This leads me to something weird and pretty annoying I have > discovered: It seems like Voiceover sometimes lost the focus and jumps > over some part on the screen, which might be the reason for you have > missed the Video button. Because of that issue, I don't remember if the > video button is in the toolbar or if it is at the confrense screen. > > I have seen the option to add an incoming call to a confrence, but it > have never worked for me, and I don't remember where I found it. I think > it's somewhere in the menubar. > Best regards: > Søren Jensen > mail & MSN: > s...@coolfortheblind.dk > Website: > http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ > > Den 01/02/2011 kl. 10.31 skrev Krister Ekstrom: > >> Hi, >> Ray, i don't have an answer to your question, but i have a question >> myself: Is it at all possible to, when one hosts a conversation or >> conference and someone calls answer the call and make it join the >> current conference rather like one apparently could in Windows? >> /Krister >> 31 jan 2011 kl. 22.11 skrev Ray Foret Jr: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Just thought I'd come in and give my first impressions of the new >>> Skype. for the most part, I reckon it seems to work well enough. I >>> love that one can read the status of people in one's contact list now. >>> Very good. Most of my custom sounds work, all but one that is; and, no >>> matter what I try, I can't get Skype to use that sound. It's the third >>> party hang up sound. >>> >>> Thing is this. How does one read the profile of a person in one's >>> contact list? Also, how does one access the history? If, in fact, the >>> history can be accessed at all. >>> >>> >>> Sincerely, >>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! >>> >>> Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!! >>> >>> Skype Name: >>> barefootedray >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >>>
Re: MacMini Without a Screen
Many thanks to everyone who replied. For the past 2 and a half years I've had a desktop PC, screen, keyboard, speakers and mouse sitting on a shelf gathering dust. Those peripherals would now be perfect for the MacMini... except that last week I leant the whole lot to a friend until June while she does a college course. How's that for bad timing! Regards. Ian -Original Message- From: Mike Arrigo Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 3:21 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: MacMini Without a Screen You do need a monitor connected, though it doesn't have to be turned on. On Feb 2, 2011, at 5:46 AM, Ian Robinson wrote: Hi All, I don’t have a Mac at the moment, but am thinking of getting a MacMini in a month or two. Can the MacMini be used without having a screen connected? Regards. Ian -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: MacMini Without a Screen
I suggest you find out what Apple wants to charge you for a usb monitor and compare that to Wal-Mart's prices $89.95 for mono and I think $109.95 for color and buy the least expensive of these options.On Thu, 3 Feb 2011, Ian Robinson wrote: > Many thanks to everyone who replied. > > For the past 2 and a half years I've had a desktop PC, screen, keyboard, > speakers and mouse sitting on a shelf gathering dust. Those peripherals would > now be perfect for the MacMini... except that last week I leant the whole lot > to a friend until June while she does a college course. > > How's that for bad timing! > > Regards. > > Ian > > > -Original Message- From: Mike Arrigo > Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 3:21 PM > To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com > Subject: Re: MacMini Without a Screen > > You do need a monitor connected, though it doesn't have to be turned on. > On Feb 2, 2011, at 5:46 AM, Ian Robinson wrote: > > > Hi All, > > > > I don?t have a Mac at the moment, but am thinking of getting a MacMini in a > > month or two. > > > > Can the MacMini be used without having a screen connected? > > > > Regards. > > > > Ian > > > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "MacVisionaries" group. > > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: first impressions of the new Skype
If the skype has been updated and we have automatic updates checked, why isn't Skype updating automatically? I'm still using the old one. Sent From My I Phone On 3 Feb 2011, at 09:33 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: > Plus there's the fact that it's much quicker to answer phone calls in the new > version. Now, whan skype rings the quick answer snaps into focus, something > that neither 2.8 nor the beta did. Now if i could just add people who call > when i'm in a conference if i so desired that would be just cool. > /Krister > > 3 feb 2011 kl. 02.00 skrev Dane Trethowan: > >> Course they don't, they've better things to do and they've done it well, the >> new product's a damn good one not just for accessibility reasons but >> performance reasons, works so much better than the older versions did, I've >> only been using it for a couple of days, the interface changes are taking a >> little getting used to but I'm finding I like the way things are presented >> now and things are less cluttered and presented in a more logical order in a >> lot of cases. >> >> >> On 03/02/2011, at 10:24 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: >> >>> I don't think its personal. lol. I don't think they sit around deciding on >>> how to screw blind people. SMH >>> >>> Ricardo Walker >>> rwalker...@gmail.com >>> Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 >>> Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197 >>> >>> >>> >>> On Feb 2, 2011, at 4:29 PM, Michael Thurman wrote: >>> because the people who write these programs do not care about us or anything about accessibility! I am NOT upgrading til they fix th efact that you can't even run conferences easily anymore On Feb 1, 2011, at 9:57 AM, Rose Morales wrote: > The video button is one movement left of the end call button. In other > words, you don't go to the toolbar anymore to get to it, the way you > would have done in Skype 2.8. > > The add to conference button which was in the context menu of any user > you clicked on in the Skype 5 beta is now gone. The add people button in > the menubar still exists though, and there's a shortcut for it, > command-shift-a. So although Skype allows for one to add others to > conferences easily, they've taken out a familiar option I know and love > by removing the add to conference button in the user context menus. > Personally, I think that was a dumb move. I don't see why they couldn't > keep both options. > > Hth, > Rose > On Feb 1, 2011, at 9:36 AM, Søren Jensen wrote: > >> Hi. >> >> I have ran the beta of this version, and it took me a while to get used >> to. However, I really love the final release. >> To inable the video, you have to find the video button in the confrence >> window. This leads me to something weird and pretty annoying I have >> discovered: It seems like Voiceover sometimes lost the focus and jumps >> over some part on the screen, which might be the reason for you have >> missed the Video button. Because of that issue, I don't remember if the >> video button is in the toolbar or if it is at the confrense screen. >> >> I have seen the option to add an incoming call to a confrence, but it >> have never worked for me, and I don't remember where I found it. I think >> it's somewhere in the menubar. >> Best regards: >> Søren Jensen >> mail & MSN: >> s...@coolfortheblind.dk >> Website: >> http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ >> >> Den 01/02/2011 kl. 10.31 skrev Krister Ekstrom: >> >>> Hi, >>> Ray, i don't have an answer to your question, but i have a question >>> myself: Is it at all possible to, when one hosts a conversation or >>> conference and someone calls answer the call and make it join the >>> current conference rather like one apparently could in Windows? >>> /Krister >>> 31 jan 2011 kl. 22.11 skrev Ray Foret Jr: >>> Hi, Just thought I'd come in and give my first impressions of the new Skype. for the most part, I reckon it seems to work well enough. I love that one can read the status of people in one's contact list now. Very good. Most of my custom sounds work, all but one that is; and, no matter what I try, I can't get Skype to use that sound. It's the third party hang up sound. Thing is this. How does one read the profile of a person in one's contact list? Also, how does one access the history? If, in fact, the history can be accessed at all. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!! Skype Name: barefootedray -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries"
Re: Jailbreaking and some solutions?
No. I'm far from independently wealthy. To me it sounds like you need a pre payed phone or something. mean, you do have options you know. No one is putting a gun to your head, and making you sign a contract. JMO. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197 On Feb 2, 2011, at 7:32 PM, Michael Thurman wrote: > charge way too god damn munc for less and less all the time. or are you > independantly wealthy? > the fact that I can't get a data only plan, or a data and emergency voice > plan is rediculous i NEVER talk on the phone except to confirm a ride or say > yeah I'll se you on skype or whatever so why should I pay fr minutes I will > never use? > > On Feb 2, 2011, at 6:29 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > >> Change their minds about what exactly? Charging more for giving you more? >> >> Ricardo Walker >> rwalker...@gmail.com >> Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 >> Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197 >> >> >> >> On Feb 2, 2011, at 5:33 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> Actually on tht note, I write on at&t's facebook wall explaining on how I >>> feel. If we all, or those who are able to, can do this it might make them >>> change there minds. >>> >>> Take care. >>> On Feb 2, 2011, at 1:15 PM, Scott Granados wrote: >>> Well if you have a hotspot enabled you'll use more bandwidth. What's wrong with paying for that? I'm with you, I know the carriers can nickel and dime with the best of them but this doesn't seem unreasonable. What they charge for texting is unreasonable now that they should reduce.:) On Feb 2, 2011, at 1:09 PM, Michael Thurman wrote: > it's assanine that they want to charge more for tha thot spot I'm sick > of getting jacked over by these companies > > On Jan 30, 2011, at 4:29 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> If att and vz would bundle the hotspot in with out charging then I would >> nit consider jailbreaking. >> >> On 30/01/2011, at 12:57, Scott Granados wrote: >> >>> That's what I'm reading. >>> >>> Honestly I'm thinking just holding out. Really the only reason I'd >>> jailbreak would be to have a WiFi hotspot. >>> >>> On Jan 30, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote: >>> Apple didn't make cydia. It was made by someone who goes by the name Saurik who is involved with a group of people that call themselves the iPhone dev team - they have nothing to do with apple. Tethered jailbreaks really aren't worth it imo scott. On 30/01/2011, Scott Granados wrote: > Rose, this is fantastic. > > Thanks for this resource! > > On Jan 30, 2011, at 12:55 AM, Rose Morales wrote: > >> I have written two extensive articles on jailbreaking. They can be >> found >> at >> http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-101-introduction-blind-perspective >> and >> http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-104-installing-jailbreak-apps-using-cyder-2 >> >> Also, Icy went open source, and you can download a new version >> designed >> for OS 4, as described in jb104. If you wish to install Icy after you >> jailbreak, copy the files in this zip to the autoinstall path for jb >> apps, >> also described in jb104. >> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3819637/Icy.zip. >> JB101 also explains where to find the latest and most reliable >> jailbreak >> information. >> Hth, >> Rose >> On Jan 30, 2011, at 3:27 AM, Scott Granados wrote: >> >>> Would you mind detailing how you did that and the steps you tok to >>> jailbreak. Maybe provide a link? I was thinking of giving it a >>> shot but >>> was talked out of it on the list. I like the idea of a jailbreak >>> process >>> though. >>> >>> I wish the jailbreakme.com one worked for 4.2.1. >>> >>> On Jan 29, 2011, at 8:04 AM, James Malone wrote: >>> Hi guys. Recently I Jailbroke my phone, but have run into an issue. I tried to start Cidia so I could go grab an app, but Voiceover doesn't seem to like it. Suggestions have been made to get Icy, but everything seems to point in the direction of downloading it with Cidia. Besides, Icy isn't being made anymore either, so I've heard. Can anyone suggest what I should do? If worse comes to worsed, I'll grab some sighted asistance. But still, something that was made by the apple Dev team really should be accessible. Anyway, thanks guys. -- You received this message b
Re: dead space for the iphone
Agreed. I'm intrigued, to be sure. Do let us know what comes of this. On Feb 1, 2011, at 3:17 PM, Chris Snyder wrote: > This sounds awesome! Please keep us updated as to what you find. > > Friendly, > Chris > > On Feb 1, 2011, at 1:35 PM, Justin Thornton wrote: > >> dude that is awesome and thanks for the input and look forward to reading >> more of what you find >> On Feb 1, 2011, at 3:22 PM, Yuma Decaux wrote: >> >>> Hi list, >>> >>> I believe that few and far apart in this list have had the luxury of >>> playing dead space. A game which is in the horror-survival category of >>> shooters. When i still had sight, this game was played in pitch darkness, >>> preferably with surround sound and a bag of chips. It was the most intense >>> game i ever played, from the horrific scenes that suck you into the >>> storyline, the rythm of action and investigation, operating and reading >>> space logs left from dead people turned necromorphs, the whole experience >>> just took an entire week throughout morning to evening. The guys even made >>> an animated movie out of it, a sequel dead space 2 which i am sunking into >>> depression for lack of words, and the developers have released dead space >>> for iphone which apparently takes a completely different storyline from a >>> different character in the world of dead space. >>> >>> This game is capable of giving heart attacks to weaker individuals, and >>> truly scared the s***t out of me. >>> >>> If anyone has a sighted friend who has the original game, just ask them to >>> pop the intro movie and you will understand when i state the word terror. >>> >>> Now to get to the point of this thread, i know for one that the game, >>> though it was entirely reliant on visuals, 3D and exploration, there were >>> two aspects which i recall which lead me to make a point of the >>> possibilities of games in 3D made for blind gamers. >>> >>> The first one is the sound, rich and fully 3D audio in an adult sci-fi >>> environment packed with details, from glitchy computers to outside hazards >>> like meteors grinding against the hull of the spaceship, cries in the >>> corridor, guts, screams, everything to make your spine chill. This is >>> actually very suitable for blind users to navigate around. There are many >>> corridors and wide spaces are usually made such as compartments in any big >>> buildings apartments or anything created by humans for humans. >>> >>> To the second point, there was a button in the original which created a >>> light beam on the floor showing the gamer where to go next with a simple >>> sound giving the directions. >>> >>> The idea for this guiding thread just like in the minotaur's labyrinth >>> could be an interesting starting point for creating tools for the blind >>> user in navigating games such as this one, and i am sure enough that it >>> will engross the player into the game with just a few functions which would >>> provide necessary awareness of the environment. >>> >>> Sound cues are good, but since this is a sci-fi game, why not even a >>> character in the game which is a blind professional working on the >>> spaceship who works with an A.I based system which gives him necessary >>> information such as alerts for nearby important or intriguing objects, for >>> walls or chasms high falls or levels. >>> >>> A handicap setting could be toggled to allow the blind gamer to >>> automatically aim at specific limbs on a monster as well as an extra shield >>> from the A.I ship-wide botnet. >>> >>> I think i will download the game, figure where the important buttons are >>> such as walk and fire, and try exploring the environment in the iphone game >>> and perhaps report back if there are any interesting outcomes. >>> >>> Best regards, >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You r
Re: cos of data plans was Re: Jailbreaking and some solutions?
Ok. I think we need a little anger management here, and spell check? Thanks. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197 On Feb 3, 2011, at 3:09 AM, Michael Thurman wrote: > then iw ould shove the phone up their assorted orifaces > > On Feb 3, 2011, at 1:20 AM, Scott Granados wrote: > >> There are a lot of price points. Sprint wasn't bad although some objected >> to having to pay the 4G fee in non 4G citis. >> >> The unlimited policy was definitely nice. >> >> I just tried to get the unlimited upgrade and no dice. Told me to go >> to Verizon.:) >> >> >> On Feb 2, 2011, at 5:21 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> Actually TMobile charges $19 for unlimited which is about half of what at&t >>> would charge if they still had unlimited plans, well they sort of do now >>> but yeah. >>> >>> S >>> On Feb 2, 2011, at 4:28 PM, Michael Thurman wrote: >>> not when t mobile only charges 10 for the same service and only at and t and verizon have I phones apple should hav ejust let everyone hav I phones now if they are not careful android will kill the I phone if I could see I'd have a droid in a heartbeat On Feb 2, 2011, at 4:15 PM, Scott Granados wrote: > Well if you have a hotspot enabled you'll use more bandwidth. What's > wrong with paying for that? > > I'm with you, I know the carriers can nickel and dime with the best of > them but this doesn't seem unreasonable. What they charge for texting is > unreasonable now that they should reduce.:) > > > On Feb 2, 2011, at 1:09 PM, Michael Thurman wrote: > >> it's assanine that they want to charge more for tha thot spot I'm sick >> of getting jacked over by these companies >> >> On Jan 30, 2011, at 4:29 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> If att and vz would bundle the hotspot in with out charging then I >>> would nit consider jailbreaking. >>> >>> On 30/01/2011, at 12:57, Scott Granados >>> wrote: >>> That's what I'm reading. Honestly I'm thinking just holding out. Really the only reason I'd jailbreak would be to have a WiFi hotspot. On Jan 30, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote: > Apple didn't make cydia. It was made by someone who goes by the name > Saurik who is involved with a group of people that call themselves the > iPhone dev team - they have nothing to do with apple. > Tethered jailbreaks really aren't worth it imo scott. > > On 30/01/2011, Scott Granados wrote: >> Rose, this is fantastic. >> >> Thanks for this resource! >> >> On Jan 30, 2011, at 12:55 AM, Rose Morales wrote: >> >>> I have written two extensive articles on jailbreaking. They can be >>> found >>> at >>> http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-101-introduction-blind-perspective >>> and >>> http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-104-installing-jailbreak-apps-using-cyder-2 >>> >>> Also, Icy went open source, and you can download a new version >>> designed >>> for OS 4, as described in jb104. If you wish to install Icy after >>> you >>> jailbreak, copy the files in this zip to the autoinstall path for >>> jb apps, >>> also described in jb104. >>> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3819637/Icy.zip. >>> JB101 also explains where to find the latest and most reliable >>> jailbreak >>> information. >>> Hth, >>> Rose >>> On Jan 30, 2011, at 3:27 AM, Scott Granados wrote: >>> Would you mind detailing how you did that and the steps you tok to jailbreak. Maybe provide a link? I was thinking of giving it a shot but was talked out of it on the list. I like the idea of a jailbreak process though. I wish the jailbreakme.com one worked for 4.2.1. On Jan 29, 2011, at 8:04 AM, James Malone wrote: > Hi guys. Recently I Jailbroke my phone, but have run into an > issue. I > tried to start Cidia so I could go grab an app, but Voiceover > doesn't > seem to like it. Suggestions have been made to get Icy, but > everything > seems to point in the direction of downloading it with Cidia. > Besides, > Icy isn't being made anymore either, so I've heard. Can anyone > suggest > what I should do? If worse comes to worsed, I'll grab some sighted > asistance. But still, something that was made by the apple Dev > team > really should be accessible. Anyway
Re: how to add people to a Skype conversation
Hi, I've found that there are a couple steps in your description that can be done differently and that could be a time saver. Instead of searching for the "add people" button, just hit cmd+shift+a then in the edit box provided, type a name or parts thereof, the table will shrink down to the choises corresponding to the letters you've typed. Now, vo right to the table and interact with it and search for the name you want to add. When found, hit return twice and the person is in the conference. HTH /Krister 3 feb 2011 kl. 04.37 skrev Ray Foret Jr: > Critically important step missed. After routing the mouse, VO+shift+space to > click. This will cause the mouse to focus on the table thus Skype should be > able to see where you select from then on. > > > Sincerely, > The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! > > Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!! > > Skype Name: > barefootedray > > On Feb 2, 2011, at 9:32 PM, Ray Foret Jr wrote: > >> For those of us who have been wanting to know just how to add a person to a >> Skype conversation, I've worked it out. >> >> 1. Make the first call. >> >> 2. Once the person answers, focus on the conversation by either >> command+option+left or right. >> >> 3. Now, Vocus on the tool bar and from there, VO+right till you hear, "Add >> people". >> >> 4. Press this with VO+space. >> >> 5. Now, VO+right till you get to the table of contacts. >> >> 6. Now, interact with this table. Note that Voice OVer will not read you >> this table until you do so. >> >> 7. Now, Press VO+command+F5 to rout the mouse to this table. >> >> 8. VO+left or right until you reach the contact you wish to add. >> >> 9. Now, cease interacting with the table. >> >> 10. Now, VO+right until you see, "Add button". Press it. >> >> Note that if the add button is grayed out, this is because Skype does >> not notice that you've made a selection from the contacts table. I still >> have yet to work out how to remove a person, but, at this point, I imagine >> it's done by going to the source list and focusing on the contact from that >> point. >> >> HTH. >> >> >> Sincerely, >> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! >> >> Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!! >> >> Skype Name: >> barefootedray >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Boiceover silence
No way. This bug has only been around for maybe a year at most. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197 On Feb 3, 2011, at 3:55 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > I'ts a bug that has been around for a very veyy very long time. andI mean > years. lol! Ok about 2 years but anyway the fix is vo cmd f8 and then escape > once the slower voice comes up. > > S > On Feb 3, 2011, at 12:12 AM, Chris Snyder wrote: > >> Hello my fellow Mac users, it seems that for no good reason in the middle of >> browsing in the finder or switching between windows, voiceover simply stops. >> I also cannot turn it back on again. I have recently repaired disk >> permissions, but for the life of me I cannot figure out why this is >> happening. Any ideas? >> Friendly, >> Chris >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: first impressions of the new Skype
The only way I knew about the updated version was to update manually. On 03/02/2011, at 8:45 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: > If the skype has been updated and we have automatic updates checked, why > isn't Skype updating automatically? I'm still using the old one. > > Sent From My I Phone > > On 3 Feb 2011, at 09:33 AM, Krister Ekstrom wrote: > >> Plus there's the fact that it's much quicker to answer phone calls in the >> new version. Now, whan skype rings the quick answer snaps into focus, >> something that neither 2.8 nor the beta did. Now if i could just add people >> who call when i'm in a conference if i so desired that would be just cool. >> /Krister >> >> 3 feb 2011 kl. 02.00 skrev Dane Trethowan: >> >>> Course they don't, they've better things to do and they've done it well, >>> the new product's a damn good one not just for accessibility reasons but >>> performance reasons, works so much better than the older versions did, I've >>> only been using it for a couple of days, the interface changes are taking a >>> little getting used to but I'm finding I like the way things are presented >>> now and things are less cluttered and presented in a more logical order in >>> a lot of cases. >>> >>> >>> On 03/02/2011, at 10:24 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: >>> I don't think its personal. lol. I don't think they sit around deciding on how to screw blind people. SMH Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197 On Feb 2, 2011, at 4:29 PM, Michael Thurman wrote: > because the people who write these programs do not care about us or > anything about accessibility! I am NOT upgrading til they fix th efact > that you can't even run conferences easily anymore > > On Feb 1, 2011, at 9:57 AM, Rose Morales wrote: > >> The video button is one movement left of the end call button. In other >> words, you don't go to the toolbar anymore to get to it, the way you >> would have done in Skype 2.8. >> >> The add to conference button which was in the context menu of any user >> you clicked on in the Skype 5 beta is now gone. The add people button in >> the menubar still exists though, and there's a shortcut for it, >> command-shift-a. So although Skype allows for one to add others to >> conferences easily, they've taken out a familiar option I know and love >> by removing the add to conference button in the user context menus. >> Personally, I think that was a dumb move. I don't see why they couldn't >> keep both options. >> >> Hth, >> Rose >> On Feb 1, 2011, at 9:36 AM, Søren Jensen wrote: >> >>> Hi. >>> >>> I have ran the beta of this version, and it took me a while to get used >>> to. However, I really love the final release. >>> To inable the video, you have to find the video button in the confrence >>> window. This leads me to something weird and pretty annoying I have >>> discovered: It seems like Voiceover sometimes lost the focus and jumps >>> over some part on the screen, which might be the reason for you have >>> missed the Video button. Because of that issue, I don't remember if the >>> video button is in the toolbar or if it is at the confrense screen. >>> >>> I have seen the option to add an incoming call to a confrence, but it >>> have never worked for me, and I don't remember where I found it. I >>> think it's somewhere in the menubar. >>> Best regards: >>> Søren Jensen >>> mail & MSN: >>> s...@coolfortheblind.dk >>> Website: >>> http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ >>> >>> Den 01/02/2011 kl. 10.31 skrev Krister Ekstrom: >>> Hi, Ray, i don't have an answer to your question, but i have a question myself: Is it at all possible to, when one hosts a conversation or conference and someone calls answer the call and make it join the current conference rather like one apparently could in Windows? /Krister 31 jan 2011 kl. 22.11 skrev Ray Foret Jr: > Hi, > > Just thought I'd come in and give my first impressions of the new > Skype. for the most part, I reckon it seems to work well enough. I > love that one can read the status of people in one's contact list > now. Very good. Most of my custom sounds work, all but one that is; > and, no matter what I try, I can't get Skype to use that sound. It's > the third party hang up sound. > > Thing is this. How does one read the profile of a person in one's > contact list? Also, how does one access the history? If, in fact, > the history can be accessed at all. > > > Sincerely, > The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! >
revision to Numbers podcast and thanks to Ann
Hi Ann and all, I wanted to say that since Ann's helpful hints and comments about VoiceOver, I will revise my Numbers podcast. I may put an adendum to it up rather than put up the whole podcast again. Thank you, Ann for your helpful tip about VoiceOver verbosity and speak header row. As I said in my cast, there are people who have more knowledge of numbers and VO than I and this was as much of a learning experience for me as it was for the listener. Well, just thought I'd thank you properly for your feedback and helpfulness. Have a wonderful day everyone. Musically, Allison My birds are winged blessings, they help me soar! -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Kindle Reader app no-go, not too sorry
Cheree Heppe here: Just while I had nothing else to do, I decided to install the Kindle reader for PC on my NetBook. It's a trusty little computer, even though it is a Windows machine. Well, the NetBook does have my wishful thinking Apple sticker on the lid. The download went without a hitch. The installer process barely got going when it offered several edit boxes, un-labeled, as one might expect from a partly, half-done, half-accessible, catch-up-if-you-can mainstream device like the Kindle. And when I tried to exit the installer, it sent me via Mozilla Firefox to Amazon's website. It wanted me to register my Kindle by in-putting the sixteen digit number on the first page of the Kindle reader app. Sorry, no can detect said portion of set-up details, let alone said sixteen digit number. After I alt F4'ed out of there, I went into the Control Panel of my Windows NetBook and, with all deliberate haste, successfully uninstalled the Kindle app. Kindle's not there yet. Maybe it never will be, I don't know. Disappointing? Only a little. It just means that Apple has a stronger lead. I have the Apple IBooks reader which I have used pretty much right from the first on I-devices, without lengthy tech involvement, hair-tearing complications or aggravating issues. If somebody would have told me five years ago that I, a really non-techy person, would be this impressed with, and this facile with using Apple products as I am now, I would have said they were nuts. It's really amazing to be a part of such game changing, superbly done Apple-engendered technological competition, even if only as an end user. Keep up the good work, Apple! And we'll keep recommending Apple to everybody and throwing dollars Apple's way. Regards, Cheree Heppe -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
2 questions
I just bought an imac today. Are the vo keys the same place as they are on my macbook? Secondly, can I open microsoft publisher documents? Thanks, Steph -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: 2 questions
Yes, the keyboard layout is the same if your using the wireless keyboard that comes with the iMac. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197 On Feb 3, 2011, at 6:59 AM, Stephanie Mitchell wrote: > I just bought an imac today. Are the vo keys the same place as they are on > my macbook? > Secondly, can I open microsoft publisher documents? > Thanks, > Steph > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Braille Sense 32. Display Help.
Hi Donna, I haven't had too much time to play with the sense. Not long after I got it working finally, the company whose demo unit I had commandeered decided they wanted to sell it and switch to an apex demo. I'll do my best though. You wrote: 1. I seem to be interacting with things a lot--like the messages table--without actually issuing the command to interact. Have you seen this? Any work around? Try this. Press control option f8 for the voiceover control panel. Press n for navigation. Tab to automaticly interact when using the tab key and if it is checked, press space to uncheck it. Let me know how that goes. You wrote: > . On a similar note, Quicknav also seems to be being activated without me > deliberately activating it. At least, my scroll buttons start behaving as > though Quicknav is turned on for no apparent reason. Any thoughts? I wish I had a satisfactory answer for this, but unfortunately I don't. It has been known to happen without braille display. Some times for no reason that anyone can pinpoint, quicknav turns itself on. It doesn't ever seem to work the other way around oddly enough. I didn't experience this while I was playing with the sense, but again, I didn't work on it for very long. Best I can do is speculate that the two issues are related. You wrote: > 3. How do I read email messages? I can see the messages in my message > table, but so far have not found a way to actually read a message. Well, since you can't issue command J from the braille display, you might try pressing a router key above the message you want to read. This will open the message in it's own window and allow you to read it. Then you'll have to navigate to the close button and press it since you can't issue command W from the braille display. I've talked to apple about this. Not being able to issue system or program keys from the display is very crippling. Finally you wrote: I have looked at the Commands in the Commands table, but I'm not finding answers there. That table is just a small portion of the commands available to you. There are hundreds. If you push the add button it will open up a whole new world of braille display useage for you. One thing that helped me no end was to set up braille display keys that act as the for arrow keys. You can find these options under the braille menu in the hotkeys dialog. I did this for a braille connect. Not sure what you would use on the sense, but having system arrow keys on my display instead of direction arrows for the voiceover curser has enriched my braille experience no end. Hope this helps, Erik Burggraaf User support consultant, Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf, 1-888-255-5194 http://www.erik-burggraaf.com On 2011-02-02, at 2:54 PM, Donna Goodin wrote: > Hi Erik, > > I finally got around to trying this out, and I have a few questions. So far > I've only been playing around with using the mail app, so my questions > pertain to that. > > 1. I seem to be interacting with things a lot--like the messages > table--without actually issuing the command to interact. Have you seen this? > Any work around? > > 2. On a similar note, Quicknav also seems to be being activated without me > deliberately activating it. At least, my scroll buttons start behaving as > though Quicknav is turned on for no apparent reason. Any thoughts? > > 3. How do I read email messages? I can see the messages in my message > table, but so far have not found a way to actually read a message. > > I have looked at the Commands in the Commands table, but I'm not finding > answers there. thanks for any help. > Best, > Donna > On Feb 2, 2011, at 9:20 AM, erik burggraaf wrote: > >> Hi, to connect your braille sense first remove the current paring you have >> set up. >> Then switch on your braille sense and turn on terminal for screen readers >> which is located in the utilities section if memory serves correctly. >> Press control option f8 to open the voiceover utility. >> Press the letter B or arrow down to braille. >> Press control option right arrow until you get to displays tab, then press >> control option space on it. >> Tab to the add bluetooth display button and press space. >> Press enter to initiate the pairing and enter your passcode which I believe >> is 4 0's on that display. >> >> You're done. The sense should come up brailling. >> >> Best, >> >> Erik Burggraaf >> User support consultant, >> Now posting occasionally on twitter at eburggraaf, >> 1-888-255-5194 >> http://www.erik-burggraaf.com >> >> On 2011-02-02, at 8:56 AM, Emilio Hernandez wrote: >> >>> Hello guys, >>> >>> I have two questions I hope some of you can help me with. (1. How do I >>> reply to a specific question within a message threat, so my feedback can >>> appear under particular questions and/or comments? (2. What is the process >>> of connecting my Braille Sense 32 to my iMac so it can be used as a >>>
Re: first impressions of the new Skype
I will update. Has the interface changed a lot and I hope it's more accessible. Sent From My I Phone On 3 Feb 2011, at 11:06 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: > The only way I knew about the updated version was to update manually. > > > On 03/02/2011, at 8:45 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: > >> If the skype has been updated and we have automatic updates checked, why >> isn't Skype updating automatically? I'm still using the old one. >> >> Sent From My I Phone >> >> On 3 Feb 2011, at 09:33 AM, Krister Ekstrom >> wrote: >> >>> Plus there's the fact that it's much quicker to answer phone calls in the >>> new version. Now, whan skype rings the quick answer snaps into focus, >>> something that neither 2.8 nor the beta did. Now if i could just add people >>> who call when i'm in a conference if i so desired that would be just cool. >>> /Krister >>> >>> 3 feb 2011 kl. 02.00 skrev Dane Trethowan: >>> Course they don't, they've better things to do and they've done it well, the new product's a damn good one not just for accessibility reasons but performance reasons, works so much better than the older versions did, I've only been using it for a couple of days, the interface changes are taking a little getting used to but I'm finding I like the way things are presented now and things are less cluttered and presented in a more logical order in a lot of cases. On 03/02/2011, at 10:24 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > I don't think its personal. lol. I don't think they sit around deciding > on how to screw blind people. SMH > > Ricardo Walker > rwalker...@gmail.com > Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 > Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197 > > > > On Feb 2, 2011, at 4:29 PM, Michael Thurman wrote: > >> because the people who write these programs do not care about us or >> anything about accessibility! I am NOT upgrading til they fix th efact >> that you can't even run conferences easily anymore >> >> On Feb 1, 2011, at 9:57 AM, Rose Morales wrote: >> >>> The video button is one movement left of the end call button. In other >>> words, you don't go to the toolbar anymore to get to it, the way you >>> would have done in Skype 2.8. >>> >>> The add to conference button which was in the context menu of any user >>> you clicked on in the Skype 5 beta is now gone. The add people button >>> in the menubar still exists though, and there's a shortcut for it, >>> command-shift-a. So although Skype allows for one to add others to >>> conferences easily, they've taken out a familiar option I know and love >>> by removing the add to conference button in the user context menus. >>> Personally, I think that was a dumb move. I don't see why they couldn't >>> keep both options. >>> >>> Hth, >>> Rose >>> On Feb 1, 2011, at 9:36 AM, Søren Jensen wrote: >>> Hi. I have ran the beta of this version, and it took me a while to get used to. However, I really love the final release. To inable the video, you have to find the video button in the confrence window. This leads me to something weird and pretty annoying I have discovered: It seems like Voiceover sometimes lost the focus and jumps over some part on the screen, which might be the reason for you have missed the Video button. Because of that issue, I don't remember if the video button is in the toolbar or if it is at the confrense screen. I have seen the option to add an incoming call to a confrence, but it have never worked for me, and I don't remember where I found it. I think it's somewhere in the menubar. Best regards: Søren Jensen mail & MSN: s...@coolfortheblind.dk Website: http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ Den 01/02/2011 kl. 10.31 skrev Krister Ekstrom: > Hi, > Ray, i don't have an answer to your question, but i have a question > myself: Is it at all possible to, when one hosts a conversation or > conference and someone calls answer the call and make it join the > current conference rather like one apparently could in Windows? > /Krister > 31 jan 2011 kl. 22.11 skrev Ray Foret Jr: > >> Hi, >> >> Just thought I'd come in and give my first impressions of the new >> Skype. for the most part, I reckon it seems to work well enough. I >> love that one can read the status of people in one's contact list >> now. Very good. Most of my custom sounds work, all but one that >> is; and, no matter what I try, I can't get Skype to use that sound. >> It's the third party hang up sound. >> >> Thing is t
RE: iWOrk: VoiceOver Falls Short
I agree with what is stated below. I have noticed this bias in other comparisons that you have done. If I didn't know better, I would say that you are an FS plant. Andy "I'm pretty good at drinkin beer." -Original Message- From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Tim Kilburn Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 10:05 PM To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: iWOrk: VoiceOver Falls Short Hi Kevin, I spent some time listening to your suggested podcast and am a little annoyed with your approach and attitude presented within it. While your comments below suggest a welcomeness to constructive comments and/or workarounds, your tone within the podcast itself is very critical of VO. Much of this criticism, in my opinion, is due to a lack of experience with the product itself. You and your partner appear well versed in the use of JAWS and are using that wealth of experience to attempt a comparison with a product that you do not have the same familiarity with. Therefore, your conclusions seem rather tilted. Now, I do appreciate your efforts in providing the podcast episodes, as such comparisons are useful. Simply to eliminate the judgemental comments would make them more palatable from my prospective. As I've noticed from much of the suggestions supplied by Anne Robertson, much of what you criticized with respect to VO is actually doable. I might also add, that many of these are not necessarily "workarounds", but really just a different way of approaching things. For the most part, we all have to realize that VO and the MacOS is not Windows, nor do I want it to be, so if we must do things a little differently, then so be it. Now for some specifics: . In Numbers, you made fun of Numbers saying "B4" with the word "Cell" and quipped about not needing to hear the word "Cell" since you knew that you were in a spreadsheet. You also mentioned that there was no way that you could stop it from saying the word "Cell". In this case, you are inaccurate, simply set your default verbosity to "Low" and VO will not say the word "Cell" anymore. I will readily admit that JAWS handles MS products very well and I'm not trying to say that VO handles iWork just as well, my objections are with your perceived expertise with VO during the comparison and your over-critical tone. Your obvious comfort level with JAWS allows for the ease of use whereas that same level of comfort is not apparent for VO. These inconsistencies are brought home considerably when I read the comments/suggestions from Anne. Maybe, instead of making such judgements, you could preface your comments with phrases like, "In my experience with VO thus far", or " I haven't figured out how to do whatever yet, but there may be someone who's more familiar than me with it". I feel that this would give your podcast a more professional tone and consequently, add validity to it. In it's current state, I would not be inclined to listen to further episodes. Just my thoughts. Later... On 2011-01-31, at 3:58 PM, Kevin Chao wrote: > Please have a listen to latest, episode 6 of VOiceOVer On podcast, where APple iWork and Microsoft Office screen reader accessibility are compared. > http://VoiceOverOn.podbean.com > > If any are aware of work-arounds, -, solutions or any feedback , specifically on content; please provide it with very specific steps. > > Apple Accessibility are made aware of all these issues, both text and audio form, which they are more than fine with the podcast. > > Goal of VOiceOver On podcast is to highlight the good, bad and ugly of VoiceOver. THis allows for people to be aware. More importantly, for APple to be aware of issues in a variety of formats, which will allow for these issues to be addressed at a later point. > > Kevin > , > On Jan 31, 2011, at 3:16 PM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote: > >> You know, I'm not exactly the biggest apple fan on here, but if those >> are all the bugs that are present in iWork, I have to say thats >> pretty impressive. I can't right now, but I'm sure that if I had >> time, I could come up with many more bugs that one could find using a >> windows screenreader and office. >> I'm all for talking about a products weeknesses, but it seems like >> your podcast exists purely to expose the bad points about voiceover, >> despite its name. >> >> On 31/01/2011, Ray Foret Jr wrote: >>> And your point is? >>> >>> I assume you've contacted the Apple accessibility people about this? >>> >>> >>> Sincerely, >>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! >>> >>> Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!! >>> >>> Skype Name: >>> barefootedray >>> >>> On Jan 31, 2011, at 2:02 PM, Kevin Chao wrote: >>> Below are various aspects of iWork, when it comes to content browsing/viewing, where VoiceOver falls short. Pages * VoiceOver find doesn't ' always work, which requires arrowing around document and repea
Re: dead space for the iphone
Oh, yes. I love to be scared to death. Looking forward to it. Teresa On Feb 3, 2011, at 1:54 AM, Zachary Kline wrote: > Agreed. I'm intrigued, to be sure. Do let us know what comes of this. > > On Feb 1, 2011, at 3:17 PM, Chris Snyder wrote: > >> This sounds awesome! Please keep us updated as to what you find. >> >> Friendly, >> Chris >> >> On Feb 1, 2011, at 1:35 PM, Justin Thornton wrote: >> >>> dude that is awesome and thanks for the input and look forward to reading >>> more of what you find >>> On Feb 1, 2011, at 3:22 PM, Yuma Decaux wrote: >>> Hi list, I believe that few and far apart in this list have had the luxury of playing dead space. A game which is in the horror-survival category of shooters. When i still had sight, this game was played in pitch darkness, preferably with surround sound and a bag of chips. It was the most intense game i ever played, from the horrific scenes that suck you into the storyline, the rythm of action and investigation, operating and reading space logs left from dead people turned necromorphs, the whole experience just took an entire week throughout morning to evening. The guys even made an animated movie out of it, a sequel dead space 2 which i am sunking into depression for lack of words, and the developers have released dead space for iphone which apparently takes a completely different storyline from a different character in the world of dead space. This game is capable of giving heart attacks to weaker individuals, and truly scared the s***t out of me. If anyone has a sighted friend who has the original game, just ask them to pop the intro movie and you will understand when i state the word terror. Now to get to the point of this thread, i know for one that the game, though it was entirely reliant on visuals, 3D and exploration, there were two aspects which i recall which lead me to make a point of the possibilities of games in 3D made for blind gamers. The first one is the sound, rich and fully 3D audio in an adult sci-fi environment packed with details, from glitchy computers to outside hazards like meteors grinding against the hull of the spaceship, cries in the corridor, guts, screams, everything to make your spine chill. This is actually very suitable for blind users to navigate around. There are many corridors and wide spaces are usually made such as compartments in any big buildings apartments or anything created by humans for humans. To the second point, there was a button in the original which created a light beam on the floor showing the gamer where to go next with a simple sound giving the directions. The idea for this guiding thread just like in the minotaur's labyrinth could be an interesting starting point for creating tools for the blind user in navigating games such as this one, and i am sure enough that it will engross the player into the game with just a few functions which would provide necessary awareness of the environment. Sound cues are good, but since this is a sci-fi game, why not even a character in the game which is a blind professional working on the spaceship who works with an A.I based system which gives him necessary information such as alerts for nearby important or intriguing objects, for walls or chasms high falls or levels. A handicap setting could be toggled to allow the blind gamer to automatically aim at specific limbs on a monster as well as an extra shield from the A.I ship-wide botnet. I think i will download the game, figure where the important buttons are such as walk and fire, and try exploring the environment in the iphone game and perhaps report back if there are any interesting outcomes. Best regards, -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionari
accessible Financial calculators?
Hi list, I'm asking on behalf of a friend. They would like to know if there were any accessible financial calculators out there for the Mac. TIA Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Recording Skype calls on the fly with Audio Hijack
Greetings! Here in my office, an increasing amount of communication goes on via Skype. There are instances when we discuss complicated subjects and if I were able to record conversations easily and then summarize them in writing afterwards, my life would be a lot easier. I have the most recent version of Audio Hijack and was wondering if there was a way to configure the program to allow me to issue a command (hotkey or something) to immediately start recording a conversation. Is this possible and if so, is there a FAQ where I could get specific instructions on how to set this feature up? If not, could someone provide some assistance? Ideally, it'd be great if I could set up a Skype call with this person if they would be willing to walk me through the process in real time, as it were. Thank you, Mike -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: first impressions of the new Skype
Interface hasn't changed all that much, just take your time and look around the screen. On 03/02/2011, at 11:33 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: > I will update. Has the interface changed a lot and I hope it's more > accessible. > > Sent From My I Phone > > On 3 Feb 2011, at 11:06 AM, Dane Trethowan wrote: > >> The only way I knew about the updated version was to update manually. >> >> >> On 03/02/2011, at 8:45 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote: >> >>> If the skype has been updated and we have automatic updates checked, why >>> isn't Skype updating automatically? I'm still using the old one. >>> >>> Sent From My I Phone >>> >>> On 3 Feb 2011, at 09:33 AM, Krister Ekstrom >>> wrote: >>> Plus there's the fact that it's much quicker to answer phone calls in the new version. Now, whan skype rings the quick answer snaps into focus, something that neither 2.8 nor the beta did. Now if i could just add people who call when i'm in a conference if i so desired that would be just cool. /Krister 3 feb 2011 kl. 02.00 skrev Dane Trethowan: > Course they don't, they've better things to do and they've done it well, > the new product's a damn good one not just for accessibility reasons but > performance reasons, works so much better than the older versions did, > I've only been using it for a couple of days, the interface changes are > taking a little getting used to but I'm finding I like the way things are > presented now and things are less cluttered and presented in a more > logical order in a lot of cases. > > > On 03/02/2011, at 10:24 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > >> I don't think its personal. lol. I don't think they sit around deciding >> on how to screw blind people. SMH >> >> Ricardo Walker >> rwalker...@gmail.com >> Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 >> Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197 >> >> >> >> On Feb 2, 2011, at 4:29 PM, Michael Thurman wrote: >> >>> because the people who write these programs do not care about us or >>> anything about accessibility! I am NOT upgrading til they fix th efact >>> that you can't even run conferences easily anymore >>> >>> On Feb 1, 2011, at 9:57 AM, Rose Morales wrote: >>> The video button is one movement left of the end call button. In other words, you don't go to the toolbar anymore to get to it, the way you would have done in Skype 2.8. The add to conference button which was in the context menu of any user you clicked on in the Skype 5 beta is now gone. The add people button in the menubar still exists though, and there's a shortcut for it, command-shift-a. So although Skype allows for one to add others to conferences easily, they've taken out a familiar option I know and love by removing the add to conference button in the user context menus. Personally, I think that was a dumb move. I don't see why they couldn't keep both options. Hth, Rose On Feb 1, 2011, at 9:36 AM, Søren Jensen wrote: > Hi. > > I have ran the beta of this version, and it took me a while to get > used to. However, I really love the final release. > To inable the video, you have to find the video button in the > confrence window. This leads me to something weird and pretty > annoying I have discovered: It seems like Voiceover sometimes lost > the focus and jumps over some part on the screen, which might be the > reason for you have missed the Video button. Because of that issue, I > don't remember if the video button is in the toolbar or if it is at > the confrense screen. > > I have seen the option to add an incoming call to a confrence, but it > have never worked for me, and I don't remember where I found it. I > think it's somewhere in the menubar. > Best regards: > Søren Jensen > mail & MSN: > s...@coolfortheblind.dk > Website: > http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ > > Den 01/02/2011 kl. 10.31 skrev Krister Ekstrom: > >> Hi, >> Ray, i don't have an answer to your question, but i have a question >> myself: Is it at all possible to, when one hosts a conversation or >> conference and someone calls answer the call and make it join the >> current conference rather like one apparently could in Windows? >> /Krister >> 31 jan 2011 kl. 22.11 skrev Ray Foret Jr: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Just thought I'd come in and give my first impressions of the new >>> Skype. for the most part, I reckon it seems to work well enough. >>> I love that one can read the status of p
Re: accessible Financial calculators?
Hi! Okay, I'm wondering if perhaps you could use the Tables Spreadsheet application and make a spreadsheet to fit your friends needs? Perhaps I'm not understanding your friends question correctly but that would appear to be where I'd be looking anyway. On 04/02/2011, at 12:25 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > Hi list, > > I'm asking on behalf of a friend. They would like to know if there were any > accessible financial calculators out there for the Mac. > > TIA > > Ricardo Walker > rwalker...@gmail.com > Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 > Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197 > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Recording Skype calls on the fly with Audio Hijack
Hi! Yes Audio Hijack Pro will record from Skype as you know but there is not a way as far as I can tell to trigger Audio Hijack Pro - as you can with Total Recorder - to start recording from another location, for example with Total Recorder you ca use a global hotkey to trigger recording, stop and so on but with Audio Hijack Pro you have to have the application in focus before issuing a command so perhaps the way round this is to leave Audio Hijack Pro recording all the time, the software won't record anything unless there's something to be recorded so you won't be left with a whole heap of silent passages in your recording. I do a fiar bit of recording from Skyp with Audio Hijack Pro and I prefer to stop the recorder so I can catalogue what's been recorded in a similar way to what you've just described and then start the recorder then, it just sits idle waiting for the next call or whatever. To start recording in Audio Hijack Pro, select "Skype" from the components and sessions list and then type command-r. Hope this helps. On 04/02/2011, at 12:29 AM, Michael Busboom wrote: > Greetings! > > Here in my office, an increasing amount of communication goes on via Skype. > There are instances when we discuss complicated subjects and if I were able > to record conversations easily and then summarize them in writing afterwards, > my life would be a lot easier. > > I have the most recent version of Audio Hijack and was wondering if there was > a way to configure the program to allow me to issue a command (hotkey or > something) to immediately start recording a conversation. > > Is this possible and if so, is there a FAQ where I could get specific > instructions on how to set this feature up? If not, could someone provide > some assistance? Ideally, it'd be great if I could set up a Skype call with > this person if they would be willing to walk me through the process in real > time, as it were. > > Thank you, > > Mike > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
KeyNote: Details of Goal
As I progress through iWork suite, I’m interested in figuring out KeyNote. I do appreciate those who have provided help with Pages. I’m still looking for some more help on Numbers. But, along side that, am very interested in KeyNote. Below, I've provided an example of what I'm trying to accomplish. Note: All examples are images 1. Change the theme of the presentation to Aspect. 2. Using the typed text in the box below, create the title slide shown in the example. (Note: You will apply the text formatting in steps 4-6.) Give Yourself Some Credit Understanding Your Credit Report Marc Kantlon Economics 101 3. Italicize the name Marc Kantlon. 4. Decrease the font size of the title paragraph, Give Yourself Some Credit, to 40. 5. Increase the font size of the first paragraph of the subtitle text, Understanding Your Credit Report, to 28. 6. Using the typed text in the box below, create Slide 2 as a Title and Content slide with a bulleted list as shown in the example. Credit Report Fundamentals Generated by three companies Experian, Equifax, TransUnion Factors How much you owe to each company Payment history for each company Includes utilities, medical expenses, rent Save your changes. 7. Using the typed text in the box below, create Slide 3 as a Title and Content slide with a bulleted list as shown in the example. How FICO Is Calculated Range – 760 (excellent) to 620 (poor) 35% - Payment history 30% - Amounts owed 15% - Credit history length 10% - New credit 10% - Credit types 8. Using the typed text in the box below, create Slide 4 as a Title and Content slide with a bulleted list as shown in the example. Improve Your FICO Score Pay bills on time Avoid opening many new accounts Open only if you intend to use Keep balances low Less than 25% of credit limit Review credit report yearly 9. On Slide 3, change the font color of the number, 760, to green in the Standard Colors and the number, 620, to red in the Standard Colors. Any and all assistance are appreciated. Thanks, Kevin -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Recording Skype calls on the fly with Audio Hijack
Thank you very much, Dane, for this information. I have some additional questions: 1. Can I just type Command-R a second time to stop the recording? 2. Is a recording automatically stopped when the Skype session is intentionally terminated? 3. I guess I am also wondering if Audio Hijack is always set to automatically record when it is launched. I am wondering this since you said to let it automatically record all the time and if this is the case, then why the need for the Command-R? 4. Lastly, will Audio Hijack work with the latest version of Skype? I always appreciate your insightful help. Thank you! Best regards, Mike On 3,Feb,2011, at 2:38 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: > Hi! > > Yes Audio Hijack Pro will record from Skype as you know but there is not a > way as far as I can tell to trigger Audio Hijack Pro - as you can with Total > Recorder - to start recording from another location, for example with Total > Recorder you ca use a global hotkey to trigger recording, stop and so on but > with Audio Hijack Pro you have to have the application in focus before > issuing a command so perhaps the way round this is to leave Audio Hijack Pro > recording all the time, the software won't record anything unless there's > something to be recorded so you won't be left with a whole heap of silent > passages in your recording. > > I do a fiar bit of recording from Skyp with Audio Hijack Pro and I prefer to > stop the recorder so I can catalogue what's been recorded in a similar way to > what you've just described and then start the recorder then, it just sits > idle waiting for the next call or whatever. To start recording in Audio > Hijack Pro, select "Skype" from the components and sessions list and then > type command-r. > > Hope this helps. > > > On 04/02/2011, at 12:29 AM, Michael Busboom wrote: > >> Greetings! >> >> Here in my office, an increasing amount of communication goes on via Skype. >> There are instances when we discuss complicated subjects and if I were able >> to record conversations easily and then summarize them in writing >> afterwards, my life would be a lot easier. >> >> I have the most recent version of Audio Hijack and was wondering if there >> was a way to configure the program to allow me to issue a command (hotkey or >> something) to immediately start recording a conversation. >> >> Is this possible and if so, is there a FAQ where I could get specific >> instructions on how to set this feature up? If not, could someone provide >> some assistance? Ideally, it'd be great if I could set up a Skype call with >> this person if they would be willing to walk me through the process in real >> time, as it were. >> >> Thank you, >> >> Mike >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
NFB Newsline's e-mail subscriptions.
I have written an apple script to assist folks that receive Newsline daisy files via e-mail. I would like one or two testers. If interested pleasecontact me at jon.c.c...@gmail.com Please be running backups on your system.. I do not expect issues but I can't garentee no problems either. THanks, Jonathan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Garag Band Question, Possible Screw-Up?
Hi Ricardo. Uh, confused. Shouldn't the re-sizing work whether you're using just the arrow-keys or the arrows plus VO? I could have sworn you were using the VO-keys for that in your tutorials. Or am I totally off? Thanks again! On Feb 2, 6:31 pm, Ricardo Walker wrote: > Oh sure, > > Because with quick nav on, you were really pressing VO left and right arrow > when you were trying to stretch or loop your samples. > > Ricardo Walker > rwalker...@gmail.com > Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 > Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197 > > On Feb 2, 2011, at 4:43 PM, Phantom.Vader wrote: > > > > > Hi people! > > > Wow! Thanks for the fast responses! Awesome! > > > Ricardo. :-) Yes, I've listened to your tutorials. They're awesome! > > Thanks so much for doing them! They were a huge help getting > > started! LOL otherwise, I don't think I'd have had a clue what any of > > that stuff meant! I tried re-sizing with the cycling both on and off, > > though, and it still went all whacko. Could the Quicknav thing have > > had something to do with it? Because that does sound exactly like > > what was wrong with my keyboard. > > > And thanks, both of you BTW, for the Quicknav tip. It seems that I > > did indeed turn it on unintentionally, and now that I've turned it > > back off things seem to be back to normal. Phew! LOL I'll have to > > watch that though! I don't even remember accidentally pressing both > > arrow-keys at the same time, but apparently I did! > > > Anyway, thanks hugely for all the help, and keep it coming! > > > On Feb 2, 1:43 pm, Colin M wrote: > >> Hi Phantom! > >> First if you can find them Ricardo has posted links to gb6 they might be > >> useful to you! > >> As far as your nav problems you might have quick nav on! > >> To stop this just press the left and right arrows down at the same time! > >> Vo should say quick nav on or off! > >> hth Colin > >> Qapla! > > >> Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak > > >> On 2 Feb 2011, at 17:07, Phantom.Vader wrote: > > >>> Hi people! > > >>> First of all, I'm new to this list. So hi all! You've already been a > >>> huge help! I've only had my Macbook Pro since November, and this list > >>> has already been invaluable - LOL if not to say a life-saver! > > >>> Anyway, the Garage-Band question. I pasted a loop into my song and > >>> stretched it out to the length of the other track so that they should > >>> match, but I'm still only hearing it for the first four bars. What am > >>> I missing Plus, I seem to have lost the ability to re-size and I'm > >>> not sure why. But, when I try to resize my track, loop or window with > >>> the arrow-keys, it just dings at me and doesn't seem to be doing > >>> anything, regardless of whether VO-keys are locked or not )I lock them > >>> to perform the re-size command as that's the only way I can reach all > >>> those keys). Anyway, what did I do?? > > >>> Also, on a side-note, is it possible to permanently lock the VO-keys? > >>> This happened to me once before where the keyboard is acting as though > >>> the VO-keys are locked even when they're not, and I can't figure out > >>> why it's doing that or how to undo it And needless to say it's > >>> playing havoc with my navigation and editing! > > >>> Anyway, thanks in advance, and all help appreciated! > >>> . > > >>> -- > >>> "I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death > >>> your right to say it." (either Thomas Pain or Voltaire) > > >>> -- > >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > >>> "MacVisionaries" group. > >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >>> For more options, visit this group > >>> athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "MacVisionaries" group. > > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
toAllison and others ordering VZ iphone
Hi all, First, please excuse the cross-post. If anyone is attempting to preorder the VZ iphone, go to the Apple site. It is working. Donna -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Recording Skype calls on the fly with Audio Hijack
I would expect that a 3-4 line apple script should be able to do this, though I have a version of Audio HiJact that is at least 4 years old, and I don't know if the Objects would be the same. If you can set up a applescript it could probably do all the functions of answering the call and getting the HiJack started... Jon On Feb 3, 2011, at 8:29 AM, Michael Busboom wrote: > Greetings! > > Here in my office, an increasing amount of communication goes on via Skype. > There are instances when we discuss complicated subjects and if I were able > to record conversations easily and then summarize them in writing afterwards, > my life would be a lot easier. > > I have the most recent version of Audio Hijack and was wondering if there was > a way to configure the program to allow me to issue a command (hotkey or > something) to immediately start recording a conversation. > > Is this possible and if so, is there a FAQ where I could get specific > instructions on how to set this feature up? If not, could someone provide > some assistance? Ideally, it'd be great if I could set up a Skype call with > this person if they would be willing to walk me through the process in real > time, as it were. > > Thank you, > > Mike > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: dead space for the iphone
Awesome idea. My friend have played Dead space, and I really enjoyed hear him played it. I play lots of fighting games on my ps3, but Dead space is totally inaccessible. But you're right. It wouldn't be hard to make it playable. There should just be lots of different warnings regards to pits, machines which will kill you if you walk too close etc. We also need an accessible shooting system. Best regards: Søren Jensen mail & MSN: s...@coolfortheblind.dk Website: http://www.coolfortheblind.dk/ Den 01/02/2011 kl. 21.22 skrev Yuma Decaux: > Hi list, > > I believe that few and far apart in this list have had the luxury of playing > dead space. A game which is in the horror-survival category of shooters. When > i still had sight, this game was played in pitch darkness, preferably with > surround sound and a bag of chips. It was the most intense game i ever > played, from the horrific scenes that suck you into the storyline, the rythm > of action and investigation, operating and reading space logs left from dead > people turned necromorphs, the whole experience just took an entire week > throughout morning to evening. The guys even made an animated movie out of > it, a sequel dead space 2 which i am sunking into depression for lack of > words, and the developers have released dead space for iphone which > apparently takes a completely different storyline from a different character > in the world of dead space. > > This game is capable of giving heart attacks to weaker individuals, and truly > scared the s***t out of me. > > If anyone has a sighted friend who has the original game, just ask them to > pop the intro movie and you will understand when i state the word terror. > > Now to get to the point of this thread, i know for one that the game, though > it was entirely reliant on visuals, 3D and exploration, there were two > aspects which i recall which lead me to make a point of the possibilities of > games in 3D made for blind gamers. > > The first one is the sound, rich and fully 3D audio in an adult sci-fi > environment packed with details, from glitchy computers to outside hazards > like meteors grinding against the hull of the spaceship, cries in the > corridor, guts, screams, everything to make your spine chill. This is > actually very suitable for blind users to navigate around. There are many > corridors and wide spaces are usually made such as compartments in any big > buildings apartments or anything created by humans for humans. > > To the second point, there was a button in the original which created a light > beam on the floor showing the gamer where to go next with a simple sound > giving the directions. > > The idea for this guiding thread just like in the minotaur's labyrinth could > be an interesting starting point for creating tools for the blind user in > navigating games such as this one, and i am sure enough that it will engross > the player into the game with just a few functions which would provide > necessary awareness of the environment. > > Sound cues are good, but since this is a sci-fi game, why not even a > character in the game which is a blind professional working on the spaceship > who works with an A.I based system which gives him necessary information such > as alerts for nearby important or intriguing objects, for walls or chasms > high falls or levels. > > A handicap setting could be toggled to allow the blind gamer to automatically > aim at specific limbs on a monster as well as an extra shield from the A.I > ship-wide botnet. > > I think i will download the game, figure where the important buttons are such > as walk and fire, and try exploring the environment in the iphone game and > perhaps report back if there are any interesting outcomes. > > Best regards, > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: iWOrk: VoiceOver Falls Short
It's his friend who sounds totally like an FS repp. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Giving out Chicksdigmacs.net email addresses
Hi Rose! Love it! I tried to email you, though, and got a "delivery failed" message. Are we supposed to use the r...@chicksdigmacs.net address on your Mac Visionaries profile or is there another, or did something just go wrong? I'd love to get one of those addresses if they're still available! On Feb 1, 7:13 am, Rose Morales wrote: > Hi all, > I purchased the domain chicksdigmacs.net last month. Among other things, one > of the things I offer with this domain is email addresses. I have my email > hosted with google apps, and I have 50 email addresses to give out as part of > google apps' free edition package. Although I don't always have the time to > post to mailing lists, I find this one to be one of my favorites to read and > to respond to. Thus, I wanted you guys to be the first list I offer email > addresses to. If you're a chick who digs macs or a guy who likes chicks who > dig macs and would like an email address at my domain, please contact me off > list with the display name you want for your email address along with the > email address you would like. Once I set up your email address, I will have > the automated system send you an email with your login credentials, including > a temporary password which you must change when you first login to your email > account. I don't anticipate filling up all fifty slots, but just in case, I > will be giving email addresses out first come first serve. And in the event > that all fifty get filled, I will post a message notifying the list of this. > Enjoy! > Rose -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: first impressions of the new Skype
Actually I am still having problems with this. When I alt-tab into the Skype window, after hearing the "you've got a call," announcement, sometimes the accept/decline buttons are *NOT* anywhere I can find in that window with either the VO cursor or the mouse pointer. I was hoping this would be better, but I still sometimes have to call people back once I find out who's calling from the source list. • Mark BurningHawk Baxter • AIM, Skype and Twitter: BurningHawk1969 • MSN: burninghawk1...@hotmail.com • My home page: • http://MarkBurningHawk.net/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Kindle Reader app no-go, not too sorry
You have to get the correct app, the one with the accessibility plug in. That install was totally accessible and I have used it to read a couple books I can't find in accessible e-book form anywhere else. I always check IBooks first. I'd much prefer to support IBooks that any other form of Ebook, because it is by far the most accessible mainstream ebook app. But the selection just isn't up to what others offer, and that pc application with the accessibility plug in does have a fully accessible installation provess and registration process. Mary Mary Otten motte...@gmail.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Recording Skype calls on the fly with Audio Hijack
Hi Michael. I've not done exactly what you want, but I have done similar things with audio hijack and applescript. Sometimes when recording podcasts with skype, I will want to play in audio clips. So to do that I need to hijack system audio. When doing that, I want to mute my microphone to reduce noise while clips are playing. I have two applescripts, one to mute my mic and the other to unmute it. I have those scripts tied to keys in VoiceOver's keyboard commander. That way I can trigger them from anywhere. I've not looked, but I would be really surprised if you couldn't have a script to launch audio hijack pro, hijack skype, and start recording. You would of course need the instant on component installed for that to work. I'll see if I can make this work, and if so, I'll respond to this thread with the script. Darcy On 2011-02-03, at 8:29 AM, Michael Busboom wrote: > Greetings! > > Here in my office, an increasing amount of communication goes on via Skype. > There are instances when we discuss complicated subjects and if I were able > to record conversations easily and then summarize them in writing afterwards, > my life would be a lot easier. > > I have the most recent version of Audio Hijack and was wondering if there was > a way to configure the program to allow me to issue a command (hotkey or > something) to immediately start recording a conversation. > > Is this possible and if so, is there a FAQ where I could get specific > instructions on how to set this feature up? If not, could someone provide > some assistance? Ideally, it'd be great if I could set up a Skype call with > this person if they would be willing to walk me through the process in real > time, as it were. > > Thank you, > > Mike > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Garag Band Question, Possible Screw-Up?
Hi again! Ok. I seem to have gotten my ability to re-size back thank goodness! But I still can't get my loop to play beyond its original four bars, and yes, I made sure to save before and after every re-size. Any idea what I'm doing wrong? Help! Also, is there a keyboard shortcut to jump to the beginning of the song without having to scroll all the way over to the button? Thanks! On Feb 2, 6:31 pm, Ricardo Walker wrote: > Oh sure, > > Because with quick nav on, you were really pressing VO left and right arrow > when you were trying to stretch or loop your samples. > > Ricardo Walker > rwalker...@gmail.com > Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 > Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197 > > On Feb 2, 2011, at 4:43 PM, Phantom.Vader wrote: > > > > > Hi people! > > > Wow! Thanks for the fast responses! Awesome! > > > Ricardo. :-) Yes, I've listened to your tutorials. They're awesome! > > Thanks so much for doing them! They were a huge help getting > > started! LOL otherwise, I don't think I'd have had a clue what any of > > that stuff meant! I tried re-sizing with the cycling both on and off, > > though, and it still went all whacko. Could the Quicknav thing have > > had something to do with it? Because that does sound exactly like > > what was wrong with my keyboard. > > > And thanks, both of you BTW, for the Quicknav tip. It seems that I > > did indeed turn it on unintentionally, and now that I've turned it > > back off things seem to be back to normal. Phew! LOL I'll have to > > watch that though! I don't even remember accidentally pressing both > > arrow-keys at the same time, but apparently I did! > > > Anyway, thanks hugely for all the help, and keep it coming! > > > On Feb 2, 1:43 pm, Colin M wrote: > >> Hi Phantom! > >> First if you can find them Ricardo has posted links to gb6 they might be > >> useful to you! > >> As far as your nav problems you might have quick nav on! > >> To stop this just press the left and right arrows down at the same time! > >> Vo should say quick nav on or off! > >> hth Colin > >> Qapla! > > >> Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak > > >> On 2 Feb 2011, at 17:07, Phantom.Vader wrote: > > >>> Hi people! > > >>> First of all, I'm new to this list. So hi all! You've already been a > >>> huge help! I've only had my Macbook Pro since November, and this list > >>> has already been invaluable - LOL if not to say a life-saver! > > >>> Anyway, the Garage-Band question. I pasted a loop into my song and > >>> stretched it out to the length of the other track so that they should > >>> match, but I'm still only hearing it for the first four bars. What am > >>> I missing Plus, I seem to have lost the ability to re-size and I'm > >>> not sure why. But, when I try to resize my track, loop or window with > >>> the arrow-keys, it just dings at me and doesn't seem to be doing > >>> anything, regardless of whether VO-keys are locked or not )I lock them > >>> to perform the re-size command as that's the only way I can reach all > >>> those keys). Anyway, what did I do?? > > >>> Also, on a side-note, is it possible to permanently lock the VO-keys? > >>> This happened to me once before where the keyboard is acting as though > >>> the VO-keys are locked even when they're not, and I can't figure out > >>> why it's doing that or how to undo it And needless to say it's > >>> playing havoc with my navigation and editing! > > >>> Anyway, thanks in advance, and all help appreciated! > >>> . > > >>> -- > >>> "I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death > >>> your right to say it." (either Thomas Pain or Voltaire) > > >>> -- > >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > >>> "MacVisionaries" group. > >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >>> For more options, visit this group > >>> athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "MacVisionaries" group. > > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Garag Band Question, Possible Screw-Up?
Yeah. I'm just using the arrow keys when I'm resizing loops. VO plus the arrow keys do nothing. hth Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197 On Feb 3, 2011, at 9:47 AM, Phantom.Vader wrote: > Hi Ricardo. > > Uh, confused. Shouldn't the re-sizing work whether you're using just > the arrow-keys or the arrows plus VO? I could have sworn you were > using the VO-keys for that in your tutorials. Or am I totally off? > > Thanks again! > > > On Feb 2, 6:31 pm, Ricardo Walker wrote: >> Oh sure, >> >> Because with quick nav on, you were really pressing VO left and right arrow >> when you were trying to stretch or loop your samples. >> >> Ricardo Walker >> rwalker...@gmail.com >> Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 >> Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197 >> >> On Feb 2, 2011, at 4:43 PM, Phantom.Vader wrote: >> >> >> >>> Hi people! >> >>> Wow! Thanks for the fast responses! Awesome! >> >>> Ricardo. :-) Yes, I've listened to your tutorials. They're awesome! >>> Thanks so much for doing them! They were a huge help getting >>> started! LOL otherwise, I don't think I'd have had a clue what any of >>> that stuff meant! I tried re-sizing with the cycling both on and off, >>> though, and it still went all whacko. Could the Quicknav thing have >>> had something to do with it? Because that does sound exactly like >>> what was wrong with my keyboard. >> >>> And thanks, both of you BTW, for the Quicknav tip. It seems that I >>> did indeed turn it on unintentionally, and now that I've turned it >>> back off things seem to be back to normal. Phew! LOL I'll have to >>> watch that though! I don't even remember accidentally pressing both >>> arrow-keys at the same time, but apparently I did! >> >>> Anyway, thanks hugely for all the help, and keep it coming! >> >>> On Feb 2, 1:43 pm, Colin M wrote: Hi Phantom! First if you can find them Ricardo has posted links to gb6 they might be useful to you! As far as your nav problems you might have quick nav on! To stop this just press the left and right arrows down at the same time! Vo should say quick nav on or off! hth Colin Qapla! >> Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak >> On 2 Feb 2011, at 17:07, Phantom.Vader wrote: >> > Hi people! >> > First of all, I'm new to this list. So hi all! You've already been a > huge help! I've only had my Macbook Pro since November, and this list > has already been invaluable - LOL if not to say a life-saver! >> > Anyway, the Garage-Band question. I pasted a loop into my song and > stretched it out to the length of the other track so that they should > match, but I'm still only hearing it for the first four bars. What am > I missing Plus, I seem to have lost the ability to re-size and I'm > not sure why. But, when I try to resize my track, loop or window with > the arrow-keys, it just dings at me and doesn't seem to be doing > anything, regardless of whether VO-keys are locked or not )I lock them > to perform the re-size command as that's the only way I can reach all > those keys). Anyway, what did I do?? >> > Also, on a side-note, is it possible to permanently lock the VO-keys? > This happened to me once before where the keyboard is acting as though > the VO-keys are locked even when they're not, and I can't figure out > why it's doing that or how to undo it And needless to say it's > playing havoc with my navigation and editing! >> > Anyway, thanks in advance, and all help appreciated! > . >> > -- > "I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death > your right to say it." (either Thomas Pain or Voltaire) >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group > athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group >>> athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because yo
Re: iWOrk: VoiceOver Falls Short
It's been great having all the feedback regarding latest Voiceover On episode 6. Yes, I'll admit that I've been using Windows and JAWS for a while, more comfortable with it etc. I've been using Mac OS X and VoiceOver since August 2010. I'm trying to transition from Windows, Office and JAWS. As most may be aware, I'm in process of getting better handle on iWork. Please, if anyone can be as so kind as to review various task I'm trying to accomplish with Pages, Numbers and KeyNote; provide assistance, it would be greatly appreciated. I do look forward to with crowd sourcing, figuring iWOrk and VoiceOver out. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 3, 2011, at 9:42 AM, Yuma Decaux wrote: > It's his friend who sounds totally like an FS repp. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Garag Band Question, Possible Screw-Up?
P.S. (Sorry, should have included this in last post). But, is it possible I didn't input the loop properly? I didn't drag it, but instead copied it from the loop-browser and simply pasted it into the arrange- layout area. I had only one other track "visible" in the instrument- tracks scroll-area, so I couldn't interact with it. So I just pasted the loop into the arrange-layout area and hoped it would go in the right place. Should that have worked? I'm hearing it when I play back the piece, but, as I said, only for the first four bars, and nothing I do seems to get it to play any further. Interestingly enough, the track shows as being stretched, I'm just not hearing it in playback. So, could that be the problem? Thanks again! On Feb 2, 6:31 pm, Ricardo Walker wrote: > Oh sure, > > Because with quick nav on, you were really pressing VO left and right arrow > when you were trying to stretch or loop your samples. > > Ricardo Walker > rwalker...@gmail.com > Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 > Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197 > > On Feb 2, 2011, at 4:43 PM, Phantom.Vader wrote: > > > > > Hi people! > > > Wow! Thanks for the fast responses! Awesome! > > > Ricardo. :-) Yes, I've listened to your tutorials. They're awesome! > > Thanks so much for doing them! They were a huge help getting > > started! LOL otherwise, I don't think I'd have had a clue what any of > > that stuff meant! I tried re-sizing with the cycling both on and off, > > though, and it still went all whacko. Could the Quicknav thing have > > had something to do with it? Because that does sound exactly like > > what was wrong with my keyboard. > > > And thanks, both of you BTW, for the Quicknav tip. It seems that I > > did indeed turn it on unintentionally, and now that I've turned it > > back off things seem to be back to normal. Phew! LOL I'll have to > > watch that though! I don't even remember accidentally pressing both > > arrow-keys at the same time, but apparently I did! > > > Anyway, thanks hugely for all the help, and keep it coming! > > > On Feb 2, 1:43 pm, Colin M wrote: > >> Hi Phantom! > >> First if you can find them Ricardo has posted links to gb6 they might be > >> useful to you! > >> As far as your nav problems you might have quick nav on! > >> To stop this just press the left and right arrows down at the same time! > >> Vo should say quick nav on or off! > >> hth Colin > >> Qapla! > > >> Chegh chew jaj Vam jaj Kak > > >> On 2 Feb 2011, at 17:07, Phantom.Vader wrote: > > >>> Hi people! > > >>> First of all, I'm new to this list. So hi all! You've already been a > >>> huge help! I've only had my Macbook Pro since November, and this list > >>> has already been invaluable - LOL if not to say a life-saver! > > >>> Anyway, the Garage-Band question. I pasted a loop into my song and > >>> stretched it out to the length of the other track so that they should > >>> match, but I'm still only hearing it for the first four bars. What am > >>> I missing Plus, I seem to have lost the ability to re-size and I'm > >>> not sure why. But, when I try to resize my track, loop or window with > >>> the arrow-keys, it just dings at me and doesn't seem to be doing > >>> anything, regardless of whether VO-keys are locked or not )I lock them > >>> to perform the re-size command as that's the only way I can reach all > >>> those keys). Anyway, what did I do?? > > >>> Also, on a side-note, is it possible to permanently lock the VO-keys? > >>> This happened to me once before where the keyboard is acting as though > >>> the VO-keys are locked even when they're not, and I can't figure out > >>> why it's doing that or how to undo it And needless to say it's > >>> playing havoc with my navigation and editing! > > >>> Anyway, thanks in advance, and all help appreciated! > >>> . > > >>> -- > >>> "I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death > >>> your right to say it." (either Thomas Pain or Voltaire) > > >>> -- > >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > >>> "MacVisionaries" group. > >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > >>> For more options, visit this group > >>> athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "MacVisionaries" group. > > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+
Re: iWOrk: VoiceOver Falls Short
Thanks TIm for stepping forward and providing such good feedback. I've set VoiceOver verbosity to low and modified speaking of table info to just content, where it still says word, "cell". Please, if you can, assist me in getting up to speed with iWork and VoiceOver. Sent from my iPhone On Feb 3, 2011, at 12:04 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote: > Hi Kevin, > > I spent some time listening to your suggested podcast and am a little annoyed > with your approach and attitude presented within it. While your comments > below suggest a welcomeness to constructive comments and/or workarounds, your > tone within the podcast itself is very critical of VO. Much of this > criticism, in my opinion, is due to a lack of experience with the product > itself. You and your partner appear well versed in the use of JAWS and are > using that wealth of experience to attempt a comparison with a product that > you do not have the same familiarity with. Therefore, your conclusions seem > rather tilted. > > Now, I do appreciate your efforts in providing the podcast episodes, as such > comparisons are useful. Simply to eliminate the judgemental comments would > make them more palatable from my prospective. As I've noticed from much of > the suggestions supplied by Anne Robertson, much of what you criticized with > respect to VO is actually doable. I might also add, that many of these are > not necessarily "workarounds", but really just a different way of approaching > things. For the most part, we all have to realize that VO and the MacOS is > not Windows, nor do I want it to be, so if we must do things a little > differently, then so be it. > > Now for some specifics: > > • In Numbers, you made fun of Numbers saying "B4" with the word "Cell" and > quipped about not needing to hear the word "Cell" since you knew that you > were in a spreadsheet. You also mentioned that there was no way that you > could stop it from saying the word "Cell". In this case, you are inaccurate, > simply set your default verbosity to "Low" and VO will not say the word > "Cell" anymore. > > I will readily admit that JAWS handles MS products very well and I'm not > trying to say that VO handles iWork just as well, my objections are with your > perceived expertise with VO during the comparison and your over-critical > tone. Your obvious comfort level with JAWS allows for the ease of use > whereas that same level of comfort is not apparent for VO. These > inconsistencies are brought home considerably when I read the > comments/suggestions from Anne. > > Maybe, instead of making such judgements, you could preface your comments > with phrases like, "In my experience with VO thus far", or " I haven't > figured out how to do whatever yet, but there may be someone who's more > familiar than me with it". I feel that this would give your podcast a more > professional tone and consequently, add validity to it. In it's current > state, I would not be inclined to listen to further episodes. > > Just my thoughts. > > Later... > > On 2011-01-31, at 3:58 PM, Kevin Chao wrote: > >> Please have a listen to latest, episode 6 of VOiceOVer On podcast, where >> APple iWork and Microsoft Office screen reader accessibility are compared. >> http://VoiceOverOn.podbean.com >> >> If any are aware of work-arounds, -, solutions or any feedback , >> specifically on content; please provide it with very specific steps. >> >> Apple Accessibility are made aware of all these issues, both text and audio >> form, which they are more than fine with the podcast. >> >> Goal of VOiceOver On podcast is to highlight the good, bad and ugly of >> VoiceOver. THis allows for people to be aware. More importantly, for APple >> to be aware of issues in a variety of formats, which will allow for these >> issues to be addressed at a later point. >> >> Kevin >> , >> On Jan 31, 2011, at 3:16 PM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote: >> >>> You know, I'm not exactly the biggest apple fan on here, but if those >>> are all the bugs that are present in iWork, I have to say thats pretty >>> impressive. I can't right now, but I'm sure that if I had time, I >>> could come up with many more bugs that one could find using a windows >>> screenreader and office. >>> I'm all for talking about a products weeknesses, but it seems like >>> your podcast exists purely to expose the bad points about voiceover, >>> despite its name. >>> >>> On 31/01/2011, Ray Foret Jr wrote: And your point is? I assume you've contacted the Apple accessibility people about this? Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!! Skype Name: barefootedray On Jan 31, 2011, at 2:02 PM, Kevin Chao wrote: > Below are various aspects of iWork, when it comes to content > browsing/viewing, where VoiceOver falls short. > > Pages > * VoiceOver find do
Re: Recording Skype calls on the fly with Audio Hijack
Okay, you have to type command-r when you've selected your source with Audio Hijack Pro to have it record, when Audio Hijack Pro is launched its in "Standby" mode for want of a better description. Pressing command-R again will stop the recording but be sure you're on the selected source in your components and sessions list or you may start recording from another source or stop another if you have one running . I prefer to use the options in the toolbar, that way I can see what Audio Hijack Pro is doing with a source at any one time if anything, just move between the buttons and press vo-space on those you wish to activate/deactivate. On 04/02/2011, at 1:35 AM, Michael Busboom wrote: > Thank you very much, Dane, for this information. I have some additional > questions: > > 1. Can I just type Command-R a second time to stop the recording? > > 2. Is a recording automatically stopped when the Skype session is > intentionally terminated? > > 3. I guess I am also wondering if Audio Hijack is always set to > automatically record when it is launched. I am wondering this since you said > to let it automatically record all the time and if this is the case, then why > the need for the Command-R? > > 4. Lastly, will Audio Hijack work with the latest version of Skype? > > I always appreciate your insightful help. Thank you! > > Best regards, > > Mike > > > On 3,Feb,2011, at 2:38 PM, Dane Trethowan wrote: > >> Hi! >> >> Yes Audio Hijack Pro will record from Skype as you know but there is not a >> way as far as I can tell to trigger Audio Hijack Pro - as you can with Total >> Recorder - to start recording from another location, for example with Total >> Recorder you ca use a global hotkey to trigger recording, stop and so on but >> with Audio Hijack Pro you have to have the application in focus before >> issuing a command so perhaps the way round this is to leave Audio Hijack Pro >> recording all the time, the software won't record anything unless there's >> something to be recorded so you won't be left with a whole heap of silent >> passages in your recording. >> >> I do a fiar bit of recording from Skyp with Audio Hijack Pro and I prefer to >> stop the recorder so I can catalogue what's been recorded in a similar way >> to what you've just described and then start the recorder then, it just sits >> idle waiting for the next call or whatever. To start recording in Audio >> Hijack Pro, select "Skype" from the components and sessions list and then >> type command-r. >> >> Hope this helps. >> >> >> On 04/02/2011, at 12:29 AM, Michael Busboom wrote: >> >>> Greetings! >>> >>> Here in my office, an increasing amount of communication goes on via Skype. >>> There are instances when we discuss complicated subjects and if I were >>> able to record conversations easily and then summarize them in writing >>> afterwards, my life would be a lot easier. >>> >>> I have the most recent version of Audio Hijack and was wondering if there >>> was a way to configure the program to allow me to issue a command (hotkey >>> or something) to immediately start recording a conversation. >>> >>> Is this possible and if so, is there a FAQ where I could get specific >>> instructions on how to set this feature up? If not, could someone provide >>> some assistance? Ideally, it'd be great if I could set up a Skype call >>> with this person if they would be willing to walk me through the process in >>> real time, as it were. >>> >>> Thank you, >>> >>> Mike >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options,
Re: Recording Skype calls on the fly with Audio Hijack
Hi Michael. You can accomplish what you want with this simple AppleScript Since I can't attach files to list messages, I'll paste the text of the script below. tell application "Audio Hijack Pro" set theSession to the first session whose name contains "Skype" tell theSession to start hijacking tell theSession to start recording end tell What you want to do is open up script editor, and copy the above script in, and save the file. I'm assuming you're using Snow Leopard. If so, you can attach the script to a keyboard commander key. Then you can run it from anywhere. Hope this made sense. If not, let me know and I'll be glad to help you out further. Darcy On 2011-02-03, at 8:29 AM, Michael Busboom wrote: > Greetings! > > Here in my office, an increasing amount of communication goes on via Skype. > There are instances when we discuss complicated subjects and if I were able > to record conversations easily and then summarize them in writing afterwards, > my life would be a lot easier. > > I have the most recent version of Audio Hijack and was wondering if there was > a way to configure the program to allow me to issue a command (hotkey or > something) to immediately start recording a conversation. > > Is this possible and if so, is there a FAQ where I could get specific > instructions on how to set this feature up? If not, could someone provide > some assistance? Ideally, it'd be great if I could set up a Skype call with > this person if they would be willing to walk me through the process in real > time, as it were. > > Thank you, > > Mike > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Recording Skype calls on the fly with Audio Hijack
I very much appreciate this myself, I knew Audio Hijack Pro would take scripting however I didn't think that it was as powerful as all that. On 04/02/2011, at 5:03 AM, Darcy Burnard wrote: > Hi Michael. You can accomplish what you want with this simple AppleScript > Since I can't attach files to list messages, I'll paste the text of the > script below. > > tell application "Audio Hijack Pro" > set theSession to the first session whose name contains "Skype" > tell theSession to start hijacking > tell theSession to start recording > end tell > > What you want to do is open up script editor, and copy the above script in, > and save the file. > I'm assuming you're using Snow Leopard. If so, you can attach the script to > a keyboard commander key. Then you can run it from anywhere. > Hope this made sense. If not, let me know and I'll be glad to help you out > further. > Darcy > > On 2011-02-03, at 8:29 AM, Michael Busboom wrote: > >> Greetings! >> >> Here in my office, an increasing amount of communication goes on via Skype. >> There are instances when we discuss complicated subjects and if I were able >> to record conversations easily and then summarize them in writing >> afterwards, my life would be a lot easier. >> >> I have the most recent version of Audio Hijack and was wondering if there >> was a way to configure the program to allow me to issue a command (hotkey or >> something) to immediately start recording a conversation. >> >> Is this possible and if so, is there a FAQ where I could get specific >> instructions on how to set this feature up? If not, could someone provide >> some assistance? Ideally, it'd be great if I could set up a Skype call with >> this person if they would be willing to walk me through the process in real >> time, as it were. >> >> Thank you, >> >> Mike >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: cos of data plans was Re: Jailbreaking and some solutions?
Nah, I wouldn't want to be on an EV-DO network like Verizon or Sprint at this point. Much much to slow. On Feb 3, 2011, at 12:09 AM, Michael Thurman wrote: > then iw ould shove the phone up their assorted orifaces > > On Feb 3, 2011, at 1:20 AM, Scott Granados wrote: > >> There are a lot of price points. Sprint wasn't bad although some objected >> to having to pay the 4G fee in non 4G citis. >> >> The unlimited policy was definitely nice. >> >> I just tried to get the unlimited upgrade and no dice. Told me to go >> to Verizon.:) >> >> >> On Feb 2, 2011, at 5:21 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> Actually TMobile charges $19 for unlimited which is about half of what at&t >>> would charge if they still had unlimited plans, well they sort of do now >>> but yeah. >>> >>> S >>> On Feb 2, 2011, at 4:28 PM, Michael Thurman wrote: >>> not when t mobile only charges 10 for the same service and only at and t and verizon have I phones apple should hav ejust let everyone hav I phones now if they are not careful android will kill the I phone if I could see I'd have a droid in a heartbeat On Feb 2, 2011, at 4:15 PM, Scott Granados wrote: > Well if you have a hotspot enabled you'll use more bandwidth. What's > wrong with paying for that? > > I'm with you, I know the carriers can nickel and dime with the best of > them but this doesn't seem unreasonable. What they charge for texting is > unreasonable now that they should reduce.:) > > > On Feb 2, 2011, at 1:09 PM, Michael Thurman wrote: > >> it's assanine that they want to charge more for tha thot spot I'm sick >> of getting jacked over by these companies >> >> On Jan 30, 2011, at 4:29 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> If att and vz would bundle the hotspot in with out charging then I >>> would nit consider jailbreaking. >>> >>> On 30/01/2011, at 12:57, Scott Granados >>> wrote: >>> That's what I'm reading. Honestly I'm thinking just holding out. Really the only reason I'd jailbreak would be to have a WiFi hotspot. On Jan 30, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote: > Apple didn't make cydia. It was made by someone who goes by the name > Saurik who is involved with a group of people that call themselves the > iPhone dev team - they have nothing to do with apple. > Tethered jailbreaks really aren't worth it imo scott. > > On 30/01/2011, Scott Granados wrote: >> Rose, this is fantastic. >> >> Thanks for this resource! >> >> On Jan 30, 2011, at 12:55 AM, Rose Morales wrote: >> >>> I have written two extensive articles on jailbreaking. They can be >>> found >>> at >>> http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-101-introduction-blind-perspective >>> and >>> http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-104-installing-jailbreak-apps-using-cyder-2 >>> >>> Also, Icy went open source, and you can download a new version >>> designed >>> for OS 4, as described in jb104. If you wish to install Icy after >>> you >>> jailbreak, copy the files in this zip to the autoinstall path for >>> jb apps, >>> also described in jb104. >>> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3819637/Icy.zip. >>> JB101 also explains where to find the latest and most reliable >>> jailbreak >>> information. >>> Hth, >>> Rose >>> On Jan 30, 2011, at 3:27 AM, Scott Granados wrote: >>> Would you mind detailing how you did that and the steps you tok to jailbreak. Maybe provide a link? I was thinking of giving it a shot but was talked out of it on the list. I like the idea of a jailbreak process though. I wish the jailbreakme.com one worked for 4.2.1. On Jan 29, 2011, at 8:04 AM, James Malone wrote: > Hi guys. Recently I Jailbroke my phone, but have run into an > issue. I > tried to start Cidia so I could go grab an app, but Voiceover > doesn't > seem to like it. Suggestions have been made to get Icy, but > everything > seems to point in the direction of downloading it with Cidia. > Besides, > Icy isn't being made anymore either, so I've heard. Can anyone > suggest > what I should do? If worse comes to worsed, I'll grab some sighted > asistance. But still, something that was made by the apple Dev > team > really should be accessible. Anyway, thanks guys. > > -- > You received thi
Re: iWOrk: VoiceOver Falls Short
Hi Kevin: I think it's a matter of taking the time to learn it before you rag on it that's at issue here. I'm still having issues with coming over to the Mac from Windows, and I've been at it for over a year. Still, it's not up to someone else to find and overcome my stumbling blocks. Nor is it my right to criticize a system I don't fully know. Sure, there are things I don't think are well addressed in terms of accessibility. But, I'm the first to admit I'm not done learning yet and I'd fault my own lack of experience before deciding that the osx and it's accessibility features are deficient. So, keep researching and information-gathering rather than being quick to point out supposed flaws. Carolyn H On Feb 3, 2011, at 10:53 AM, Kevin Chao wrote: > Thanks TIm for stepping forward and providing such good feedback. I've set > VoiceOver verbosity to low and modified speaking of table info to just > content, where it still says word, "cell". Please, if you can, assist me in > getting up to speed with iWork and VoiceOver. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Feb 3, 2011, at 12:04 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote: > >> Hi Kevin, >> >> I spent some time listening to your suggested podcast and am a little >> annoyed with your approach and attitude presented within it. While your >> comments below suggest a welcomeness to constructive comments and/or >> workarounds, your tone within the podcast itself is very critical of VO. >> Much of this criticism, in my opinion, is due to a lack of experience with >> the product itself. You and your partner appear well versed in the use of >> JAWS and are using that wealth of experience to attempt a comparison with a >> product that you do not have the same familiarity with. Therefore, your >> conclusions seem rather tilted. >> >> Now, I do appreciate your efforts in providing the podcast episodes, as such >> comparisons are useful. Simply to eliminate the judgemental comments would >> make them more palatable from my prospective. As I've noticed from much of >> the suggestions supplied by Anne Robertson, much of what you criticized with >> respect to VO is actually doable. I might also add, that many of these are >> not necessarily "workarounds", but really just a different way of >> approaching things. For the most part, we all have to realize that VO and >> the MacOS is not Windows, nor do I want it to be, so if we must do things a >> little differently, then so be it. >> >> Now for some specifics: >> >> • In Numbers, you made fun of Numbers saying "B4" with the word "Cell" and >> quipped about not needing to hear the word "Cell" since you knew that you >> were in a spreadsheet. You also mentioned that there was no way that you >> could stop it from saying the word "Cell". In this case, you are >> inaccurate, simply set your default verbosity to "Low" and VO will not say >> the word "Cell" anymore. >> >> I will readily admit that JAWS handles MS products very well and I'm not >> trying to say that VO handles iWork just as well, my objections are with >> your perceived expertise with VO during the comparison and your >> over-critical tone. Your obvious comfort level with JAWS allows for the >> ease of use whereas that same level of comfort is not apparent for VO. >> These inconsistencies are brought home considerably when I read the >> comments/suggestions from Anne. >> >> Maybe, instead of making such judgements, you could preface your comments >> with phrases like, "In my experience with VO thus far", or " I haven't >> figured out how to do whatever yet, but there may be someone who's more >> familiar than me with it". I feel that this would give your podcast a more >> professional tone and consequently, add validity to it. In it's current >> state, I would not be inclined to listen to further episodes. >> >> Just my thoughts. >> >> Later... >> >> On 2011-01-31, at 3:58 PM, Kevin Chao wrote: >> >>> Please have a listen to latest, episode 6 of VOiceOVer On podcast, where >>> APple iWork and Microsoft Office screen reader accessibility are compared. >>> http://VoiceOverOn.podbean.com >>> >>> If any are aware of work-arounds, -, solutions or any feedback , >>> specifically on content; please provide it with very specific steps. >>> >>> Apple Accessibility are made aware of all these issues, both text and audio >>> form, which they are more than fine with the podcast. >>> >>> Goal of VOiceOver On podcast is to highlight the good, bad and ugly of >>> VoiceOver. THis allows for people to be aware. More importantly, for APple >>> to be aware of issues in a variety of formats, which will allow for these >>> issues to be addressed at a later point. >>> >>> Kevin >>> , >>> On Jan 31, 2011, at 3:16 PM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote: >>> You know, I'm not exactly the biggest apple fan on here, but if those are all the bugs that are present in iWork, I have to say thats pretty impressive.
Re: iWOrk: VoiceOver Falls Short
Hi TIm, We understand view on podcast re: tone etc. Please stay on subject. After going through hoops, resetting VOIceOver several times, doing secret handshake, stop VoiceOVer from saying word, "cell". THanks for that suggestion. Why did you conveniently choose to ignore the rest of the issues raised in podcast? ? , Kevin On Feb 3, 2011, at 12:04 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote: > Hi Kevin, > > I spent some time listening to your suggested podcast and am a little annoyed > with your approach and attitude presented within it. While your comments > below suggest a welcomeness to constructive comments and/or workarounds, your > tone within the podcast itself is very critical of VO. Much of this > criticism, in my opinion, is due to a lack of experience with the product > itself. You and your partner appear well versed in the use of JAWS and are > using that wealth of experience to attempt a comparison with a product that > you do not have the same familiarity with. Therefore, your conclusions seem > rather tilted. > > Now, I do appreciate your efforts in providing the podcast episodes, as such > comparisons are useful. Simply to eliminate the judgemental comments would > make them more palatable from my prospective. As I've noticed from much of > the suggestions supplied by Anne Robertson, much of what you criticized with > respect to VO is actually doable. I might also add, that many of these are > not necessarily "workarounds", but really just a different way of approaching > things. For the most part, we all have to realize that VO and the MacOS is > not Windows, nor do I want it to be, so if we must do things a little > differently, then so be it. > > Now for some specifics: > > • In Numbers, you made fun of Numbers saying "B4" with the word "Cell" and > quipped about not needing to hear the word "Cell" since you knew that you > were in a spreadsheet. You also mentioned that there was no way that you > could stop it from saying the word "Cell". In this case, you are inaccurate, > simply set your default verbosity to "Low" and VO will not say the word > "Cell" anymore. > > I will readily admit that JAWS handles MS products very well and I'm not > trying to say that VO handles iWork just as well, my objections are with your > perceived expertise with VO during the comparison and your over-critical > tone. Your obvious comfort level with JAWS allows for the ease of use > whereas that same level of comfort is not apparent for VO. These > inconsistencies are brought home considerably when I read the > comments/suggestions from Anne. > > Maybe, instead of making such judgements, you could preface your comments > with phrases like, "In my experience with VO thus far", or " I haven't > figured out how to do whatever yet, but there may be someone who's more > familiar than me with it". I feel that this would give your podcast a more > professional tone and consequently, add validity to it. In it's current > state, I would not be inclined to listen to further episodes. > > Just my thoughts. > > Later... > > On 2011-01-31, at 3:58 PM, Kevin Chao wrote: > >> Please have a listen to latest, episode 6 of VOiceOVer On podcast, where >> APple iWork and Microsoft Office screen reader accessibility are compared. >> http://VoiceOverOn.podbean.com >> >> If any are aware of work-arounds, -, solutions or any feedback , >> specifically on content; please provide it with very specific steps. >> >> Apple Accessibility are made aware of all these issues, both text and audio >> form, which they are more than fine with the podcast. >> >> Goal of VOiceOver On podcast is to highlight the good, bad and ugly of >> VoiceOver. THis allows for people to be aware. More importantly, for APple >> to be aware of issues in a variety of formats, which will allow for these >> issues to be addressed at a later point. >> >> Kevin >> , >> On Jan 31, 2011, at 3:16 PM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote: >> >>> You know, I'm not exactly the biggest apple fan on here, but if those >>> are all the bugs that are present in iWork, I have to say thats pretty >>> impressive. I can't right now, but I'm sure that if I had time, I >>> could come up with many more bugs that one could find using a windows >>> screenreader and office. >>> I'm all for talking about a products weeknesses, but it seems like >>> your podcast exists purely to expose the bad points about voiceover, >>> despite its name. >>> >>> On 31/01/2011, Ray Foret Jr wrote: And your point is? I assume you've contacted the Apple accessibility people about this? Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!! Skype Name: barefootedray On Jan 31, 2011, at 2:02 PM, Kevin Chao wrote: > Below are various aspects of iWork, when it comes to content > browsing/viewing, where VoiceOver falls short. >>
Re: Giving out Chicksdigmacs.net email addresses
r...@chicksdigmacs.net is not my email address. It's r...@chicksdigmacs.net. That's the address to email. I suppose my email address is being hidden for some reason? I'm not doing that. On Feb 3, 2011, at 10:47 AM, Phantom.Vader wrote: > Hi Rose! > > Love it! I tried to email you, though, and got a "delivery failed" > message. Are we supposed to use the r...@chicksdigmacs.net address on > your Mac Visionaries profile or is there another, or did something > just go wrong? I'd love to get one of those addresses if they're > still available! > > > > On Feb 1, 7:13 am, Rose Morales wrote: >> Hi all, >> I purchased the domain chicksdigmacs.net last month. Among other things, one >> of the things I offer with this domain is email addresses. I have my email >> hosted with google apps, and I have 50 email addresses to give out as part >> of google apps' free edition package. Although I don't always have the time >> to post to mailing lists, I find this one to be one of my favorites to read >> and to respond to. Thus, I wanted you guys to be the first list I offer >> email addresses to. If you're a chick who digs macs or a guy who likes >> chicks who dig macs and would like an email address at my domain, please >> contact me off list with the display name you want for your email address >> along with the email address you would like. Once I set up your email >> address, I will have the automated system send you an email with your login >> credentials, including a temporary password which you must change when you >> first login to your email account. I don't anticipate filling up all fifty >> slots, but just in case, I will be giving email addresses out first come >> first serve. And in the event that all fifty get filled, I will post a >> message notifying the list of this. >> Enjoy! >> Rose > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Recording Skype calls on the fly with Audio Hijack
Command R once you focus on a Skype session. Sincerely, The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! Now A Very Proud and very happy Mac user!!! Skype Name: barefootedray On Feb 3, 2011, at 7:29 AM, Michael Busboom wrote: > Greetings! > > Here in my office, an increasing amount of communication goes on via Skype. > There are instances when we discuss complicated subjects and if I were able > to record conversations easily and then summarize them in writing afterwards, > my life would be a lot easier. > > I have the most recent version of Audio Hijack and was wondering if there was > a way to configure the program to allow me to issue a command (hotkey or > something) to immediately start recording a conversation. > > Is this possible and if so, is there a FAQ where I could get specific > instructions on how to set this feature up? If not, could someone provide > some assistance? Ideally, it'd be great if I could set up a Skype call with > this person if they would be willing to walk me through the process in real > time, as it were. > > Thank you, > > Mike > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: cos of data plans was Re: Jailbreaking and some solutions?
at least for now, actually I watched someoen who is on sprint download something do video much clear then the iphone can and faster too but I"m sure that will come when at&t switches to LTE. On Feb 3, 2011, at 10:08 AM, Scott Granados wrote: > Nah, > I wouldn't want to be on an EV-DO network like Verizon or Sprint at this > point. > > Much much to slow. > > On Feb 3, 2011, at 12:09 AM, Michael Thurman wrote: > >> then iw ould shove the phone up their assorted orifaces >> >> On Feb 3, 2011, at 1:20 AM, Scott Granados wrote: >> >>> There are a lot of price points. Sprint wasn't bad although some objected >>> to having to pay the 4G fee in non 4G citis. >>> >>> The unlimited policy was definitely nice. >>> >>> I just tried to get the unlimited upgrade and no dice. Told me to go >>> to Verizon.:) >>> >>> >>> On Feb 2, 2011, at 5:21 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> Actually TMobile charges $19 for unlimited which is about half of what at&t would charge if they still had unlimited plans, well they sort of do now but yeah. S On Feb 2, 2011, at 4:28 PM, Michael Thurman wrote: > not when t mobile only charges 10 for the same service and only at and t > and verizon have I phones apple should hav ejust let everyone hav I > phones now if they are not careful android will kill the I phone if I > could see I'd have a droid in a heartbeat > On Feb 2, 2011, at 4:15 PM, Scott Granados wrote: > >> Well if you have a hotspot enabled you'll use more bandwidth. What's >> wrong with paying for that? >> >> I'm with you, I know the carriers can nickel and dime with the best of >> them but this doesn't seem unreasonable. What they charge for texting >> is unreasonable now that they should reduce.:) >> >> >> On Feb 2, 2011, at 1:09 PM, Michael Thurman wrote: >> >>> it's assanine that they want to charge more for tha thot spot I'm >>> sick of getting jacked over by these companies >>> >>> On Jan 30, 2011, at 4:29 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >>> If att and vz would bundle the hotspot in with out charging then I would nit consider jailbreaking. On 30/01/2011, at 12:57, Scott Granados wrote: > That's what I'm reading. > > Honestly I'm thinking just holding out. Really the only reason I'd > jailbreak would be to have a WiFi hotspot. > > On Jan 30, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote: > >> Apple didn't make cydia. It was made by someone who goes by the name >> Saurik who is involved with a group of people that call themselves >> the >> iPhone dev team - they have nothing to do with apple. >> Tethered jailbreaks really aren't worth it imo scott. >> >> On 30/01/2011, Scott Granados wrote: >>> Rose, this is fantastic. >>> >>> Thanks for this resource! >>> >>> On Jan 30, 2011, at 12:55 AM, Rose Morales wrote: >>> I have written two extensive articles on jailbreaking. They can be found at http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-101-introduction-blind-perspective and http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-104-installing-jailbreak-apps-using-cyder-2 Also, Icy went open source, and you can download a new version designed for OS 4, as described in jb104. If you wish to install Icy after you jailbreak, copy the files in this zip to the autoinstall path for jb apps, also described in jb104. http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3819637/Icy.zip. JB101 also explains where to find the latest and most reliable jailbreak information. Hth, Rose On Jan 30, 2011, at 3:27 AM, Scott Granados wrote: > Would you mind detailing how you did that and the steps you tok to > jailbreak. Maybe provide a link? I was thinking of giving it a > shot but > was talked out of it on the list. I like the idea of a jailbreak > process > though. > > I wish the jailbreakme.com one worked for 4.2.1. > > On Jan 29, 2011, at 8:04 AM, James Malone wrote: > >> Hi guys. Recently I Jailbroke my phone, but have run into an >> issue. I >> tried to start Cidia so I could go grab an app, but Voiceover >> doesn't >> seem to like it. Suggestions have been made to get Icy, but >> everything >> seems to point in the direction of downloading it with Cidia. >> Besides, >> Icy is
Re: Boiceover silence
Well anyway I sent apple my diagnostic reports on it a few months ago so hopefully they can fix it. It drives me bonkers. I don't like dong cmd vo f8 and then esc whenI'm hte middle of let's say scroling through 17000 items which I've had to do. S On Feb 3, 2011, at 2:02 AM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > No way. > > This bug has only been around for maybe a year at most. > > Ricardo Walker > rwalker...@gmail.com > Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 > Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197 > > > > On Feb 3, 2011, at 3:55 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> I'ts a bug that has been around for a very veyy very long time. andI mean >> years. lol! Ok about 2 years but anyway the fix is vo cmd f8 and then escape >> once the slower voice comes up. >> >> S >> On Feb 3, 2011, at 12:12 AM, Chris Snyder wrote: >> >>> Hello my fellow Mac users, it seems that for no good reason in the middle >>> of browsing in the finder or switching between windows, voiceover simply >>> stops. I also cannot turn it back on again. I have recently repaired disk >>> permissions, but for the life of me I cannot figure out why this is >>> happening. Any ideas? >>> Friendly, >>> Chris >>> >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: MacMini Without a Screen
I owuld just buy a moniter on wallmart's clearence rack if uou can find one. looks like that would be the cheaper of the solution that way you can use it anyware. S On Feb 3, 2011, at 1:46 AM, Jude DaShiell wrote: > I suggest you find out what Apple wants to charge you for a usb monitor > and compare that to Wal-Mart's prices $89.95 for mono and I think $109.95 > for color and buy the least expensive of these options.On Thu, 3 Feb 2011, > Ian Robinson wrote: > >> Many thanks to everyone who replied. >> >> For the past 2 and a half years I've had a desktop PC, screen, keyboard, >> speakers and mouse sitting on a shelf gathering dust. Those peripherals >> would >> now be perfect for the MacMini... except that last week I leant the whole lot >> to a friend until June while she does a college course. >> >> How's that for bad timing! >> >> Regards. >> >> Ian >> >> >> -Original Message- From: Mike Arrigo >> Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2011 3:21 PM >> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: MacMini Without a Screen >> >> You do need a monitor connected, though it doesn't have to be turned on. >> On Feb 2, 2011, at 5:46 AM, Ian Robinson wrote: >> >>> Hi All, >>> >>> I don?t have a Mac at the moment, but am thinking of getting a MacMini in a >>> month or two. >>> >>> Can the MacMini be used without having a screen connected? >>> >>> Regards. >>> >>> Ian >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
An update was Re: Acapela voice purchasing [was Re: Where Is Samantha, on the Mac?]
Hi, Thanks for all your help, when I got home and checked my email the keys for the voices had come through, it took 2 and a half days in all. Thanks for the advice about calling them, though I didn't have to take that route. I'm putting this out there to give everyone a feel for the length of time it can take for the order to come through, I hope it's not too off-topic. Courtney On Feb 2, 2011, at 10:59 AM, Eric Oyen wrote: > give them a call. > I did that to get some questions answered. cost a mint but it was worth it. > > -Eric > > On Feb 2, 2011, at 7:42 AM, Courtney Curran wrote: > >> Hi, >> I did purchase the acapella voices, I got a confirmation order, but no email >> with my key yet. I did opt for an email instead of a CD, so that's not the >> problem. It's been almost two days, how long does it usually take for the >> order to be processed? Since the order confirmation, I've heard nothing. >> Does anyone have any suggestions? >> On 21/04/2010, at 8:02 in the morning, Esther wrote: >> >>> Hi Marie, >>> >>> I've changed the subject line, since we're talking now about the Infovox >>> voices from Acapela. One additional piece of information is that you get >>> the Heather voice with every voice pack you purchase. So, if you purchased >>> the Spanish voices or the U.K. English voices, you'd also get the U.S. >>> Heather voice. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Esther >>> >>> marie Howarth wrote: >>> yes, i think there should be an option to buy individual voices. I like heather and I think its Emily. Ryan's OK too but one or two voices doesn't justify me buying a whole bunch of voices, like you said, taking up room. Maybe if enough people email them they might consider it an option. haha, and then again, maybe not. On 21 Apr 2010, at 11:10, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > Hi, > > See, I asked them about this. APparently, Acapela does not permit sales > of separate voices. THis is apparently because of agencies. They seem to > find it a better solution to just buy a package that suits your needs so > you can choose, rather than agencies and such having to buy multiple > times. > > I guess I can see that, but it would be nice. I don't want a lot of those > voices taking space on my computer. The only ones I really care about are > Peter and Heather. let's complain! > > Regards, > Nic > Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com > Skype: Kvalme > MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk > AIM: cincinster > yahoo Messenger: cin368 > Facebook Profile > My Twitter > > On Apr 21, 2010, at 12:04 PM, marie Howarth wrote: > >> I love Alex too and use him pretty much all of the time. I trialled >> other voices from infovox and such but could not bring myself to pay $99 >> for one set of voices. I understand now why they cost so much but even >> still I just can't justify that much money for 4 or 5 voices and I like >> a mix of the british and American voices so would need to buy two packs >> and I'm also learning spanish so would have kinda liked one of the >> spanish voices too, you can see my dilemma. lol >> >> On 21 Apr 2010, at 10:05, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Well, it'd be a surprise, sure. But more voices provides more choices. >>> I love Alex, though. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Nic >>> Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com >>> Skype: Kvalme >>> MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk >>> AIM: cincinster >>> yahoo Messenger: cin368 >>> Facebook Profile >>> My Twitter >>> >>> On Apr 21, 2010, at 11:01 AM, Rob wrote: >>> I can see her on portable devices, but full macs? I wonder how it would be received, compared to Alex. Sent from my iPod On Apr 21, 2010, at 1:58 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > She is by newance I believe so I don't think yu will find this voice > on teh mac unless there is a newance version of this for os10? > > Tc > > S > On Apr 20, 2010, at 11:34 PM, M. Taylor wrote: > >> Thank you for your response. >> >> But how can this be? Is she not the beloved voice of the iPhone, >> iPod >> Touch, and iPad? >> >> Perhaps I refer to her by the wrong name? >> >> Mark >> >> >> >> >> >> Get to know yourself as you get to know me on The Secret Life of >> Mark Marcus >> Live Talk Show >> http://candleshore.com/secrets >> -Original Message- >> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of gkearney >> Sent: Tuesday, April 20, 2010 11:12 PM >> To: MacVisionaries >>
Re: cos of data plans was Re: Jailbreaking and some solutions?
I also assume that you were stationary when you saw this demo. Sprint 4G is good but not when you're moving or in doors. 2.5 ghz is a little rough for mobile applications. On Feb 3, 2011, at 11:44 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > at least for now, actually I watched someoen who is on sprint download > something do video much clear then the iphone can and faster too but I"m sure > that will come when at&t switches to LTE. > On Feb 3, 2011, at 10:08 AM, Scott Granados wrote: > >> Nah, >> I wouldn't want to be on an EV-DO network like Verizon or Sprint at this >> point. >> >> Much much to slow. >> >> On Feb 3, 2011, at 12:09 AM, Michael Thurman wrote: >> >>> then iw ould shove the phone up their assorted orifaces >>> >>> On Feb 3, 2011, at 1:20 AM, Scott Granados wrote: >>> There are a lot of price points. Sprint wasn't bad although some objected to having to pay the 4G fee in non 4G citis. The unlimited policy was definitely nice. I just tried to get the unlimited upgrade and no dice. Told me to go to Verizon.:) On Feb 2, 2011, at 5:21 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > Actually TMobile charges $19 for unlimited which is about half of what > at&t would charge if they still had unlimited plans, well they sort of do > now but yeah. > > S > On Feb 2, 2011, at 4:28 PM, Michael Thurman wrote: > >> not when t mobile only charges 10 for the same service and only at and >> t and verizon have I phones apple should hav ejust let everyone hav I >> phones now if they are not careful android will kill the I phone if I >> could see I'd have a droid in a heartbeat >> On Feb 2, 2011, at 4:15 PM, Scott Granados wrote: >> >>> Well if you have a hotspot enabled you'll use more bandwidth. What's >>> wrong with paying for that? >>> >>> I'm with you, I know the carriers can nickel and dime with the best of >>> them but this doesn't seem unreasonable. What they charge for texting >>> is unreasonable now that they should reduce.:) >>> >>> >>> On Feb 2, 2011, at 1:09 PM, Michael Thurman wrote: >>> it's assanine that they want to charge more for tha thot spot I'm sick of getting jacked over by these companies On Jan 30, 2011, at 4:29 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > If att and vz would bundle the hotspot in with out charging then I > would nit consider jailbreaking. > > On 30/01/2011, at 12:57, Scott Granados > wrote: > >> That's what I'm reading. >> >> Honestly I'm thinking just holding out. Really the only reason I'd >> jailbreak would be to have a WiFi hotspot. >> >> On Jan 30, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote: >> >>> Apple didn't make cydia. It was made by someone who goes by the name >>> Saurik who is involved with a group of people that call themselves >>> the >>> iPhone dev team - they have nothing to do with apple. >>> Tethered jailbreaks really aren't worth it imo scott. >>> >>> On 30/01/2011, Scott Granados wrote: Rose, this is fantastic. Thanks for this resource! On Jan 30, 2011, at 12:55 AM, Rose Morales wrote: > I have written two extensive articles on jailbreaking. They can > be found > at > http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-101-introduction-blind-perspective > and > http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-104-installing-jailbreak-apps-using-cyder-2 > > Also, Icy went open source, and you can download a new version > designed > for OS 4, as described in jb104. If you wish to install Icy after > you > jailbreak, copy the files in this zip to the autoinstall path for > jb apps, > also described in jb104. > http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3819637/Icy.zip. > JB101 also explains where to find the latest and most reliable > jailbreak > information. > Hth, > Rose > On Jan 30, 2011, at 3:27 AM, Scott Granados wrote: > >> Would you mind detailing how you did that and the steps you tok >> to >> jailbreak. Maybe provide a link? I was thinking of giving it a >> shot but >> was talked out of it on the list. I like the idea of a >> jailbreak process >> though. >> >> I wish the jailbreakme.com one worked for 4.2.1. >> >> On Jan 29, 2011, at 8:04 AM, James Malone wrote: >> >>> Hi guys. Recently I Jailbroke my phone, but have
Re: cos of data plans was Re: Jailbreaking and some solutions?
tell me about it. My clear iSpot doesn't do to great in the car or on the bus. Ricardo Walker rwalker...@gmail.com Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197 On Feb 3, 2011, at 3:34 PM, Scott Granados wrote: > I also assume that you were stationary when you saw this demo. Sprint 4G is > good but not when you're moving or in doors. > > 2.5 ghz is a little rough for mobile applications. > > On Feb 3, 2011, at 11:44 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> at least for now, actually I watched someoen who is on sprint download >> something do video much clear then the iphone can and faster too but I"m >> sure that will come when at&t switches to LTE. >> On Feb 3, 2011, at 10:08 AM, Scott Granados wrote: >> >>> Nah, >>> I wouldn't want to be on an EV-DO network like Verizon or Sprint at this >>> point. >>> >>> Much much to slow. >>> >>> On Feb 3, 2011, at 12:09 AM, Michael Thurman wrote: >>> then iw ould shove the phone up their assorted orifaces On Feb 3, 2011, at 1:20 AM, Scott Granados wrote: > There are a lot of price points. Sprint wasn't bad although some > objected to having to pay the 4G fee in non 4G citis. > > The unlimited policy was definitely nice. > > I just tried to get the unlimited upgrade and no dice. Told me to go > to Verizon.:) > > > On Feb 2, 2011, at 5:21 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> Actually TMobile charges $19 for unlimited which is about half of what >> at&t would charge if they still had unlimited plans, well they sort of >> do now but yeah. >> >> S >> On Feb 2, 2011, at 4:28 PM, Michael Thurman wrote: >> >>> not when t mobile only charges 10 for the same service and only at and >>> t and verizon have I phones apple should hav ejust let everyone hav I >>> phones now if they are not careful android will kill the I phone if I >>> could see I'd have a droid in a heartbeat >>> On Feb 2, 2011, at 4:15 PM, Scott Granados wrote: >>> Well if you have a hotspot enabled you'll use more bandwidth. What's wrong with paying for that? I'm with you, I know the carriers can nickel and dime with the best of them but this doesn't seem unreasonable. What they charge for texting is unreasonable now that they should reduce.:) On Feb 2, 2011, at 1:09 PM, Michael Thurman wrote: > it's assanine that they want to charge more for tha thot spot I'm > sick of getting jacked over by these companies > > On Jan 30, 2011, at 4:29 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> If att and vz would bundle the hotspot in with out charging then I >> would nit consider jailbreaking. >> >> On 30/01/2011, at 12:57, Scott Granados >> wrote: >> >>> That's what I'm reading. >>> >>> Honestly I'm thinking just holding out. Really the only reason I'd >>> jailbreak would be to have a WiFi hotspot. >>> >>> On Jan 30, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote: >>> Apple didn't make cydia. It was made by someone who goes by the name Saurik who is involved with a group of people that call themselves the iPhone dev team - they have nothing to do with apple. Tethered jailbreaks really aren't worth it imo scott. On 30/01/2011, Scott Granados wrote: > Rose, this is fantastic. > > Thanks for this resource! > > On Jan 30, 2011, at 12:55 AM, Rose Morales wrote: > >> I have written two extensive articles on jailbreaking. They can >> be found >> at >> http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-101-introduction-blind-perspective >> and >> http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-104-installing-jailbreak-apps-using-cyder-2 >> >> Also, Icy went open source, and you can download a new version >> designed >> for OS 4, as described in jb104. If you wish to install Icy >> after you >> jailbreak, copy the files in this zip to the autoinstall path >> for jb apps, >> also described in jb104. >> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3819637/Icy.zip. >> JB101 also explains where to find the latest and most reliable >> jailbreak >> information. >> Hth, >> Rose >> On Jan 30, 2011, at 3:27 AM, Scott Granados wrote: >> >>> Would you mind detailing how you did that and the steps you tok >>> to >>> jailbreak. Maybe provide a link? I was thinking of giving it >>> a shot bu
my address problem: an update
Well I got it to work. Here is what I have to do, I'll past the link as it is a hint well worth keeping for now. lol! http://hints.macworld.com/article.php?story=20071118134839992 Enjoy. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: cos of data plans was Re: Jailbreaking and some solutions?
Actually I'm writing to you from a clear connection. I'm in doors and get about 6 to 10 mbps, that is if all 5 comptuers are not on there at once but I would imagine that it is hard to get any kind of connection while moving. On Feb 3, 2011, at 12:59 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > tell me about it. > > My clear iSpot doesn't do to great in the car or on the bus. > > Ricardo Walker > rwalker...@gmail.com > Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 > Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197 > > > > On Feb 3, 2011, at 3:34 PM, Scott Granados wrote: > >> I also assume that you were stationary when you saw this demo. Sprint 4G is >> good but not when you're moving or in doors. >> >> 2.5 ghz is a little rough for mobile applications. >> >> On Feb 3, 2011, at 11:44 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> at least for now, actually I watched someoen who is on sprint download >>> something do video much clear then the iphone can and faster too but I"m >>> sure that will come when at&t switches to LTE. >>> On Feb 3, 2011, at 10:08 AM, Scott Granados wrote: >>> Nah, I wouldn't want to be on an EV-DO network like Verizon or Sprint at this point. Much much to slow. On Feb 3, 2011, at 12:09 AM, Michael Thurman wrote: > then iw ould shove the phone up their assorted orifaces > > On Feb 3, 2011, at 1:20 AM, Scott Granados wrote: > >> There are a lot of price points. Sprint wasn't bad although some >> objected to having to pay the 4G fee in non 4G citis. >> >> The unlimited policy was definitely nice. >> >> I just tried to get the unlimited upgrade and no dice. Told me to go >> to Verizon.:) >> >> >> On Feb 2, 2011, at 5:21 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> Actually TMobile charges $19 for unlimited which is about half of what >>> at&t would charge if they still had unlimited plans, well they sort of >>> do now but yeah. >>> >>> S >>> On Feb 2, 2011, at 4:28 PM, Michael Thurman wrote: >>> not when t mobile only charges 10 for the same service and only at and t and verizon have I phones apple should hav ejust let everyone hav I phones now if they are not careful android will kill the I phone if I could see I'd have a droid in a heartbeat On Feb 2, 2011, at 4:15 PM, Scott Granados wrote: > Well if you have a hotspot enabled you'll use more bandwidth. What's > wrong with paying for that? > > I'm with you, I know the carriers can nickel and dime with the best > of them but this doesn't seem unreasonable. What they charge for > texting is unreasonable now that they should reduce.:) > > > On Feb 2, 2011, at 1:09 PM, Michael Thurman wrote: > >> it's assanine that they want to charge more for tha thot spot I'm >> sick of getting jacked over by these companies >> >> On Jan 30, 2011, at 4:29 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> If att and vz would bundle the hotspot in with out charging then I >>> would nit consider jailbreaking. >>> >>> On 30/01/2011, at 12:57, Scott Granados >>> wrote: >>> That's what I'm reading. Honestly I'm thinking just holding out. Really the only reason I'd jailbreak would be to have a WiFi hotspot. On Jan 30, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote: > Apple didn't make cydia. It was made by someone who goes by the > name > Saurik who is involved with a group of people that call > themselves the > iPhone dev team - they have nothing to do with apple. > Tethered jailbreaks really aren't worth it imo scott. > > On 30/01/2011, Scott Granados wrote: >> Rose, this is fantastic. >> >> Thanks for this resource! >> >> On Jan 30, 2011, at 12:55 AM, Rose Morales wrote: >> >>> I have written two extensive articles on jailbreaking. They can >>> be found >>> at >>> http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-101-introduction-blind-perspective >>> and >>> http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-104-installing-jailbreak-apps-using-cyder-2 >>> >>> Also, Icy went open source, and you can download a new version >>> designed >>> for OS 4, as described in jb104. If you wish to install Icy >>> after you >>> jailbreak, copy the files in this zip to the autoinstall path >>> for jb apps, >>> also described in jb104. >>> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3819637/Icy.zip. >>> JB101 also explains where to find
Re: An update was Re: Acapela voice purchasing [was Re: Where Is Samantha, on the Mac?]
Hey thanks for that. HOpefully during convention time they have some sort of sale. I love the voices but cannot as of now buy them. Take care and thanks once again! On Feb 3, 2011, at 12:05 PM, Courtney Curran wrote: > Hi, > Thanks for all your help, when I got home and checked my email the keys for > the voices had come through, it took 2 and a half days in all. Thanks for the > advice about calling them, though I didn't have to take that route. I'm > putting this out there to give everyone a feel for the length of time it can > take for the order to come through, I hope it's not too off-topic. > Courtney > > On Feb 2, 2011, at 10:59 AM, Eric Oyen wrote: > >> give them a call. >> I did that to get some questions answered. cost a mint but it was worth it. >> >> -Eric >> >> On Feb 2, 2011, at 7:42 AM, Courtney Curran wrote: >> >>> Hi, >>> I did purchase the acapella voices, I got a confirmation order, but no >>> email with my key yet. I did opt for an email instead of a CD, so that's >>> not the problem. It's been almost two days, how long does it usually take >>> for the order to be processed? Since the order confirmation, I've heard >>> nothing. Does anyone have any suggestions? >>> On 21/04/2010, at 8:02 in the morning, Esther wrote: >>> Hi Marie, I've changed the subject line, since we're talking now about the Infovox voices from Acapela. One additional piece of information is that you get the Heather voice with every voice pack you purchase. So, if you purchased the Spanish voices or the U.K. English voices, you'd also get the U.S. Heather voice. Cheers, Esther marie Howarth wrote: > yes, i think there should be an option to buy individual voices. I like > heather and I think its Emily. Ryan's OK too but one or two voices > doesn't justify me buying a whole bunch of voices, like you said, taking > up room. Maybe if enough people email them they might consider it an > option. haha, and then again, maybe not. > > On 21 Apr 2010, at 11:10, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> See, I asked them about this. APparently, Acapela does not permit sales >> of separate voices. THis is apparently because of agencies. They seem to >> find it a better solution to just buy a package that suits your needs so >> you can choose, rather than agencies and such having to buy multiple >> times. >> >> I guess I can see that, but it would be nice. I don't want a lot of >> those voices taking space on my computer. The only ones I really care >> about are Peter and Heather. let's complain! >> >> Regards, >> Nic >> Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com >> Skype: Kvalme >> MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk >> AIM: cincinster >> yahoo Messenger: cin368 >> Facebook Profile >> My Twitter >> >> On Apr 21, 2010, at 12:04 PM, marie Howarth wrote: >> >>> I love Alex too and use him pretty much all of the time. I trialled >>> other voices from infovox and such but could not bring myself to pay >>> $99 for one set of voices. I understand now why they cost so much but >>> even still I just can't justify that much money for 4 or 5 voices and I >>> like a mix of the british and American voices so would need to buy two >>> packs and I'm also learning spanish so would have kinda liked one of >>> the spanish voices too, you can see my dilemma. lol >>> >>> On 21 Apr 2010, at 10:05, Nicolai Svendsen wrote: >>> Hi, Well, it'd be a surprise, sure. But more voices provides more choices. I love Alex, though. Regards, Nic Mobile Me: nic2...@me.com Skype: Kvalme MSN Messenger: nico...@home3.gvdnet.dk AIM: cincinster yahoo Messenger: cin368 Facebook Profile My Twitter On Apr 21, 2010, at 11:01 AM, Rob wrote: > I can see her on portable devices, but full macs? I wonder how it > would be received, compared to Alex. > > Sent from my iPod > > On Apr 21, 2010, at 1:58 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: > >> She is by newance I believe so I don't think yu will find this voice >> on teh mac unless there is a newance version of this for os10? >> >> Tc >> >> S >> On Apr 20, 2010, at 11:34 PM, M. Taylor wrote: >> >>> Thank you for your response. >>> >>> But how can this be? Is she not the beloved voice of the iPhone, >>> iPod >>> Touch, and iPad? >>> >>> Perhaps I refer to her by the wrong name? >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> Get to know yourself as you get to know me on The
Re: cos of data plans was Re: Jailbreaking and some solutions?
Yeah, it sucks on the train as well. My streams drop every few minutes. On Feb 3, 2011, at 12:59 PM, Ricardo Walker wrote: > tell me about it. > > My clear iSpot doesn't do to great in the car or on the bus. > > Ricardo Walker > rwalker...@gmail.com > Twitter, Skype, and AIM: rwalker296 > Google Voice: 1-646-450-2197 > > > > On Feb 3, 2011, at 3:34 PM, Scott Granados wrote: > >> I also assume that you were stationary when you saw this demo. Sprint 4G is >> good but not when you're moving or in doors. >> >> 2.5 ghz is a little rough for mobile applications. >> >> On Feb 3, 2011, at 11:44 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> at least for now, actually I watched someoen who is on sprint download >>> something do video much clear then the iphone can and faster too but I"m >>> sure that will come when at&t switches to LTE. >>> On Feb 3, 2011, at 10:08 AM, Scott Granados wrote: >>> Nah, I wouldn't want to be on an EV-DO network like Verizon or Sprint at this point. Much much to slow. On Feb 3, 2011, at 12:09 AM, Michael Thurman wrote: > then iw ould shove the phone up their assorted orifaces > > On Feb 3, 2011, at 1:20 AM, Scott Granados wrote: > >> There are a lot of price points. Sprint wasn't bad although some >> objected to having to pay the 4G fee in non 4G citis. >> >> The unlimited policy was definitely nice. >> >> I just tried to get the unlimited upgrade and no dice. Told me to go >> to Verizon.:) >> >> >> On Feb 2, 2011, at 5:21 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> Actually TMobile charges $19 for unlimited which is about half of what >>> at&t would charge if they still had unlimited plans, well they sort of >>> do now but yeah. >>> >>> S >>> On Feb 2, 2011, at 4:28 PM, Michael Thurman wrote: >>> not when t mobile only charges 10 for the same service and only at and t and verizon have I phones apple should hav ejust let everyone hav I phones now if they are not careful android will kill the I phone if I could see I'd have a droid in a heartbeat On Feb 2, 2011, at 4:15 PM, Scott Granados wrote: > Well if you have a hotspot enabled you'll use more bandwidth. What's > wrong with paying for that? > > I'm with you, I know the carriers can nickel and dime with the best > of them but this doesn't seem unreasonable. What they charge for > texting is unreasonable now that they should reduce.:) > > > On Feb 2, 2011, at 1:09 PM, Michael Thurman wrote: > >> it's assanine that they want to charge more for tha thot spot I'm >> sick of getting jacked over by these companies >> >> On Jan 30, 2011, at 4:29 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote: >> >>> If att and vz would bundle the hotspot in with out charging then I >>> would nit consider jailbreaking. >>> >>> On 30/01/2011, at 12:57, Scott Granados >>> wrote: >>> That's what I'm reading. Honestly I'm thinking just holding out. Really the only reason I'd jailbreak would be to have a WiFi hotspot. On Jan 30, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote: > Apple didn't make cydia. It was made by someone who goes by the > name > Saurik who is involved with a group of people that call > themselves the > iPhone dev team - they have nothing to do with apple. > Tethered jailbreaks really aren't worth it imo scott. > > On 30/01/2011, Scott Granados wrote: >> Rose, this is fantastic. >> >> Thanks for this resource! >> >> On Jan 30, 2011, at 12:55 AM, Rose Morales wrote: >> >>> I have written two extensive articles on jailbreaking. They can >>> be found >>> at >>> http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-101-introduction-blind-perspective >>> and >>> http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-104-installing-jailbreak-apps-using-cyder-2 >>> >>> Also, Icy went open source, and you can download a new version >>> designed >>> for OS 4, as described in jb104. If you wish to install Icy >>> after you >>> jailbreak, copy the files in this zip to the autoinstall path >>> for jb apps, >>> also described in jb104. >>> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3819637/Icy.zip. >>> JB101 also explains where to find the latest and most reliable >>> jailbreak >>> information. >>> Hth, >>> Rose >>> On Ja
Possible Apple television on the horizon?
Hi list, How many of you would look into getting an Apple television? I think it would be pretty damn interesting since all their hardware is accessible via Voiceover. You can read more here. http://goo.gl/W2GjT Sent from my iPhone -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: An update was Re: Acapela voice purchasing [was Re: Where Is Samantha, on the Mac?]
your welcome. :) -Eric On Feb 3, 2011, at 1:05 PM, Courtney Curran wrote: > Hi, > Thanks for all your help, when I got home and checked my email the keys for > the voices had come through, it took 2 and a half days in all. Thanks for the > advice about calling them, though I didn't have to take that route. I'm > putting this out there to give everyone a feel for the length of time it can > take for the order to come through, I hope it's not too off-topic. > Courtney > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Giving out Chicksdigmacs.net email addresses
Hi again! Ah! Thanks! Yeah, for some reason all of your email that's showing is r...@chicksdigmacs.net. Weird! Anyway, I'll write you off list about the email addresses. Thanks again! On Feb 3, 2:05 pm, Rose wrote: > r...@chicksdigmacs.net is not my email address. It's r...@chicksdigmacs.net. > That's the address to email. I suppose my email address is being hidden for > some reason? I'm not doing that. > On Feb 3, 2011, at 10:47 AM, Phantom.Vader wrote: > > > > > Hi Rose! > > > Love it! I tried to email you, though, and got a "delivery failed" > > message. Are we supposed to use the r...@chicksdigmacs.net address on > > your Mac Visionaries profile or is there another, or did something > > just go wrong? I'd love to get one of those addresses if they're > > still available! > > > On Feb 1, 7:13 am, Rose Morales wrote: > >> Hi all, > >> I purchased the domain chicksdigmacs.net last month. Among other things, > >> one of the things I offer with this domain is email addresses. I have my > >> email hosted with google apps, and I have 50 email addresses to give out > >> as part of google apps' free edition package. Although I don't always have > >> the time to post to mailing lists, I find this one to be one of my > >> favorites to read and to respond to. Thus, I wanted you guys to be the > >> first list I offer email addresses to. If you're a chick who digs macs or > >> a guy who likes chicks who dig macs and would like an email address at my > >> domain, please contact me off list with the display name you want for your > >> email address along with the email address you would like. Once I set up > >> your email address, I will have the automated system send you an email > >> with your login credentials, including a temporary password which you must > >> change when you first login to your email account. I don't anticipate > >> filling up all fifty slots, but just in case, I will be giving email > >> addresses out first come first serve. And in the event that all fifty get > >> filled, I will post a message notifying the list of this. > >> Enjoy! > >> Rose > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "MacVisionaries" group. > > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Somebody with a little vision
Hi all, I'm working with a client who has some vision and something has got us kind of stumped. She used to be able to hold down the control key and swipe two fingers away and toward her on the trackpad two zoom the image in and out; however, this is no longer working. I've researched the matter and have found nothing on the subject. Any ideas how this feature could have been turned off? More important, any idea how to get it turned back on? Any assistance you can offer as always is very much appreciated. Thank you. Earle Harrison Handy Tech North America -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Somebody with a little vision
Hi all, I'm working with a client who has some vision and something has got us kind of stumped. She used to be able to hold down the control key and swipe two fingers away and toward her on the trackpad two zoom the image in and out; however, this is no longer working. I've researched the matter and have found nothing on the subject. Any ideas how this feature could have been turned off? More important, any idea how to get it turned back on? Any assistance you can offer as always is very much appreciated. Thank you. Earle Harrison Handy Tech North America -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: iWOrk: VoiceOver Falls Short
If you haven't already done so, you might check out my pod casts on blindcooltech for my voiceover experiences. On Feb 3, 2011, at 12:44 AM, brandt wrote: > Hi Tim, > > As a current windows user, I have to say that negative podcasts such as > "Voiceover on" will keep the windows users, windows users and drive newby mac > users away. I am still going to swich, but almost decided not to after > listening to the first 6 episodes of "voiceover is broaken" > > Regards, > > Brandt Steenkamp > > MSN/Windows live: brandt...@live.com > > Google talk: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com > > AIM: brandt.steenk...@gmail.com > > Skype: brandt.steenkamp007 > - Original Message - From: "Tim Kilburn" > To: > Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 8:04 AM > Subject: Re: iWOrk: VoiceOver Falls Short > > > Hi Kevin, > > I spent some time listening to your suggested podcast and am a little annoyed > with your approach and attitude presented within it. While your comments > below suggest a welcomeness to constructive comments and/or workarounds, your > tone within the podcast itself is very critical of VO. Much of this > criticism, in my opinion, is due to a lack of experience with the product > itself. You and your partner appear well versed in the use of JAWS and are > using that wealth of experience to attempt a comparison with a product that > you do not have the same familiarity with. Therefore, your conclusions seem > rather tilted. > > Now, I do appreciate your efforts in providing the podcast episodes, as such > comparisons are useful. Simply to eliminate the judgemental comments would > make them more palatable from my prospective. As I've noticed from much of > the suggestions supplied by Anne Robertson, much of what you criticized with > respect to VO is actually doable. I might also add, that many of these are > not necessarily "workarounds", but really just a different way of approaching > things. For the most part, we all have to realize that VO and the MacOS is > not Windows, nor do I want it to be, so if we must do things a little > differently, then so be it. > > Now for some specifics: > > • In Numbers, you made fun of Numbers saying "B4" with the word "Cell" and > quipped about not needing to hear the word "Cell" since you knew that you > were in a spreadsheet. You also mentioned that there was no way that you > could stop it from saying the word "Cell". In this case, you are inaccurate, > simply set your default verbosity to "Low" and VO will not say the word > "Cell" anymore. > > I will readily admit that JAWS handles MS products very well and I'm not > trying to say that VO handles iWork just as well, my objections are with your > perceived expertise with VO during the comparison and your over-critical > tone. Your obvious comfort level with JAWS allows for the ease of use > whereas that same level of comfort is not apparent for VO. These > inconsistencies are brought home considerably when I read the > comments/suggestions from Anne. > > Maybe, instead of making such judgements, you could preface your comments > with phrases like, "In my experience with VO thus far", or " I haven't > figured out how to do whatever yet, but there may be someone who's more > familiar than me with it". I feel that this would give your podcast a more > professional tone and consequently, add validity to it. In it's current > state, I would not be inclined to listen to further episodes. > > Just my thoughts. > > Later... > > On 2011-01-31, at 3:58 PM, Kevin Chao wrote: > >> Please have a listen to latest, episode 6 of VOiceOVer On podcast, where >> APple iWork and Microsoft Office screen reader accessibility are compared. >> http://VoiceOverOn.podbean.com >> >> If any are aware of work-arounds, -, solutions or any feedback , >> specifically on content; please provide it with very specific steps. >> >> Apple Accessibility are made aware of all these issues, both text and audio >> form, which they are more than fine with the podcast. >> >> Goal of VOiceOver On podcast is to highlight the good, bad and ugly of >> VoiceOver. THis allows for people to be aware. More importantly, for APple >> to be aware of issues in a variety of formats, which will allow for these >> issues to be addressed at a later point. >> >> Kevin >> , >> On Jan 31, 2011, at 3:16 PM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote: >> >>> You know, I'm not exactly the biggest apple fan on here, but if those >>> are all the bugs that are present in iWork, I have to say thats pretty >>> impressive. I can't right now, but I'm sure that if I had time, I >>> could come up with many more bugs that one could find using a windows >>> screenreader and office. >>> I'm all for talking about a products weeknesses, but it seems like >>> your podcast exists purely to expose the bad points about voiceover, >>> despite its name. >>> >>> On 31/01/2011, Ray Foret Jr wrote: And your point is? I assum
VO accessible Chess, Checkers, Draughts and Xaingqi games released for iPhone, iPad & iTouch
Greetings All, Today Apple approved and released the accessible versions of Marcel Nijman's Chess-wise Apps! In addition, Marcel modified three of his other game apps to make them VO accessible. Those Apps are: Checker-wise, Draughts-wise and Xiangqi-wise. These apps are all now available worldwide in the App Store and in the following languages: English, Spanish, Russian, German and Dutch. Marcel hopes to add Polish, Czech and French translations in the next update. The viphone mailing list, Scott Howell and Geoff Waller in particular, were instrumental in providing input, feedback and other information to Marcel during this process. Each of these four Apps is a universal App, which means they will run correctly on the iPhone, iTouch and iPad. WHile there is a free version of the Chess-wise App, I would urge you to consider purchasing the Pro version to support Marcel's work. The price is only US $2.99 for the Chess and Checker Apps, and only US $1.99 for the Draughts and Xiangqi Apps. I believe Marcel is the kind of developer who deserves our support one hundred percent. I've not tried the 3 other games yet, but I can tell you the Chessboard and Chess pieces are now recognized and read aloud by VO. You can navigate the board using a one-finger swipe, or you can just slide one finger around the board and VO will announce the coordinates and the name of a piece if one occupies that square. To make a move, use one finger to locate the piece you want to move, then double-tap. VO will announce "Selected." Now use one finger again to locate the destination square and double-tap again. Please note that this is considered a first version of this game in it's accessible form. While Marcel has made the heart of the App accessible, it is a very feature-rich App which will require additional coding to make it fully accessible. Marcel has asked that those of us who use the Apps provide feedback to him so he can continue to refine and update the accessibility features. Here is a link to Marcel's App Gallery in the US iTunes store: http://itunes.apple.com/us/artist/marcel-nijman/id337888122 Here is a link to Chess-wise Pro in the US App Store: http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/chess-wise-pro/id351303981?mt=8 Here is a link to Chess-wise FREE in the US App Store: http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/chess-wise-free/id367318028?mt=8 Cheers, Bryan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: VO accessible Chess, Checkers, Draughts and Xaingqi games released for iPhone, iPad & iTouch
I've been playing with chesswise, and it looks awesome! I'll definately say so in the app store. My only question is about the excercises. The board is accessible, but the explaination (what to do) appears not to be. That is, I couldn't find any text on the screen. Has anyone played with this? Well done Bryan, Scott, and of course Marcel! Jim On Thu, Feb 03, 2011 at 08:54:03PM -0500, Bryan Jones wrote: > Greetings All, > > Today Apple approved and released the accessible versions of Marcel Nijman's > Chess-wise Apps! In addition, Marcel modified three of his other game apps to > make them VO accessible. Those Apps are: Checker-wise, Draughts-wise and > Xiangqi-wise. These apps are all now available worldwide in the App Store and > in the following languages: English, Spanish, Russian, German and Dutch. > Marcel hopes to add Polish, Czech and French translations in the next update. > The viphone mailing list, Scott Howell and Geoff Waller in particular, were > instrumental in providing input, feedback and other information to Marcel > during this process. > > Each of these four Apps is a universal App, which means they will run > correctly on the iPhone, iTouch and iPad. WHile there is a free version of > the Chess-wise App, I would urge you to consider purchasing the Pro version > to support Marcel's work. The price is only US $2.99 for the Chess and > Checker Apps, and only US $1.99 for the Draughts and Xiangqi Apps. I believe > Marcel is the kind of developer who deserves our support one hundred percent. > > I've not tried the 3 other games yet, but I can tell you the Chessboard and > Chess pieces are now recognized and read aloud by VO. You can navigate the > board using a one-finger swipe, or you can just slide one finger around the > board and VO will announce the coordinates and the name of a piece if one > occupies that square. To make a move, use one finger to locate the piece you > want to move, then double-tap. VO will announce "Selected." Now use one > finger again to locate the destination square and double-tap again. Please > note that this is considered a first version of this game in it's accessible > form. While Marcel has made the heart of the App accessible, it is a very > feature-rich App which will require additional coding to make it fully > accessible. Marcel has asked that those of us who use the Apps provide > feedback to him so he can continue to refine and update the accessibility > features. > > Here is a link to Marcel's App Gallery in the US iTunes store: > http://itunes.apple.com/us/artist/marcel-nijman/id337888122 > > Here is a link to Chess-wise Pro in the US App Store: > http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/chess-wise-pro/id351303981?mt=8 > > Here is a link to Chess-wise FREE in the US App Store: > http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/chess-wise-free/id367318028?mt=8 > > Cheers, > Bryan > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Adium and Facebook
All: When I signed in on Adium, my Facebook account isn't showing up. It says I'm signed under account preferences, butnone of my FB contacts will appear. Other accounts are fine. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: VO accessible Chess, Checkers, Draughts and Xaingqi games released for iPhone, iPad & iTouch
Hi, This is wonderful news. Kudos to Marcel for making the effort this accessibility required, and to Apple for allowing us this kind of accessibility in the first place. I just bought Chesswise Pro, and am very pleased with it so far. I'll be sure to provide feedback if I feel it's warranted. Thanks so much for this information. It's made my day. Best, Zack. On Feb 3, 2011, at 5:54 PM, Bryan Jones wrote: > Greetings All, > > Today Apple approved and released the accessible versions of Marcel Nijman's > Chess-wise Apps! In addition, Marcel modified three of his other game apps to > make them VO accessible. Those Apps are: Checker-wise, Draughts-wise and > Xiangqi-wise. These apps are all now available worldwide in the App Store and > in the following languages: English, Spanish, Russian, German and Dutch. > Marcel hopes to add Polish, Czech and French translations in the next update. > The viphone mailing list, Scott Howell and Geoff Waller in particular, were > instrumental in providing input, feedback and other information to Marcel > during this process. > > Each of these four Apps is a universal App, which means they will run > correctly on the iPhone, iTouch and iPad. WHile there is a free version of > the Chess-wise App, I would urge you to consider purchasing the Pro version > to support Marcel's work. The price is only US $2.99 for the Chess and > Checker Apps, and only US $1.99 for the Draughts and Xiangqi Apps. I believe > Marcel is the kind of developer who deserves our support one hundred percent. > > I've not tried the 3 other games yet, but I can tell you the Chessboard and > Chess pieces are now recognized and read aloud by VO. You can navigate the > board using a one-finger swipe, or you can just slide one finger around the > board and VO will announce the coordinates and the name of a piece if one > occupies that square. To make a move, use one finger to locate the piece you > want to move, then double-tap. VO will announce "Selected." Now use one > finger again to locate the destination square and double-tap again. Please > note that this is considered a first version of this game in it's accessible > form. While Marcel has made the heart of the App accessible, it is a very > feature-rich App which will require additional coding to make it fully > accessible. Marcel has asked that those of us who use the Apps provide > feedback to him so he can continue to refine and update the accessibility > features. > > Here is a link to Marcel's App Gallery in the US iTunes store: > http://itunes.apple.com/us/artist/marcel-nijman/id337888122 > > Here is a link to Chess-wise Pro in the US App Store: > http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/chess-wise-pro/id351303981?mt=8 > > Here is a link to Chess-wise FREE in the US App Store: > http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/chess-wise-free/id367318028?mt=8 > > Cheers, > Bryan > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Somebody with a little vision
Hi Earl, I don't know whether zooming an image the way you described is still available as I'm only a relatively new mac user, but I have found a way to zoom the screen in a general context. That is, to magnify the entire screen. I'm not sure whether this applies if your client is using Zoom in conjunction with VO, but from my experience, the way to zoom in is to do the opposite of a pinch gesture. E.g. Put your thumb and pointer finger in the centre of the trackpad and simultaneously move your thumb towards the bottom of the trackpad and your finger towards the top. From my experience, it doesn't work when Zoom is magnifying the screen, but should work if Zoom is not being used. Hope this helps - there could be a better way to do it. I'm using a Macbook Pro with a multitouch trackpad. Cheers, Chantelle On 04/02/2011, at 11:01 AM, Earle M. Harrison wrote: > Hi all, > > I'm working with a client who has some vision and something has got us kind > of stumped. She used to be able to hold down the control key and swipe two > fingers away and toward her on the trackpad two zoom the image in and out; > however, this is no longer working. I've researched the matter and have > found nothing on the subject. Any ideas how this feature could have been > turned off? More important, any idea how to get it turned back on? Any > assistance you can offer as always is very much appreciated. Thank you. > > Earle Harrison > Handy Tech North America > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: Adium and Facebook
Hello try this. : http://trac.adium.im/wiki/FacebookChat On Feb 3, 2011, at 6:54 PM, Sarai Bucciarelli wrote: > All: > When I signed in on Adium, my Facebook account isn't showing up. It says I'm > signed under account preferences, butnone of my FB contacts will appear. > Other accounts are fine. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. To unsubscribe from this group, send email to macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en.
Re: iWOrk: VoiceOver Falls Short
Hi Kevin, Conveniently? I take exception to that adverb. I've been out of town for a few days, rather crazy at work and decided I'd still write my comments even though it was just before midnight. I had noticed that Anne had, for the most part, responded to much of your podcast and therefore I felt that my one suggestion would suffice for now. I will look into some of the other items over the weekend if time permits. I will say here, though, that the stuttering behaviour you mention in Numbers is not unique to VO. I've noticed JAWS do some stuttering of its own, not necessarily in Excel but for sure in Active Directory. I haven't been able to narrow down the cause but, then again, I haven't bothered trying either as I don't feel it drastic enough to focus a lot of energy on. Have a good one. Later... On 2011-02-03, at 11:58 AM, Kevin Chao wrote: > Hi TIm, > > We understand view on podcast re: tone etc. Please stay on subject. After > going through hoops, resetting VOIceOver several times, doing secret > handshake, stop VoiceOVer from saying word, "cell". THanks for that > suggestion. > > Why did you conveniently choose to ignore the rest of the issues raised in > podcast? ? , > > Kevin > On Feb 3, 2011, at 12:04 AM, Tim Kilburn wrote: > >> Hi Kevin, >> >> I spent some time listening to your suggested podcast and am a little >> annoyed with your approach and attitude presented within it. While your >> comments below suggest a welcomeness to constructive comments and/or >> workarounds, your tone within the podcast itself is very critical of VO. >> Much of this criticism, in my opinion, is due to a lack of experience with >> the product itself. You and your partner appear well versed in the use of >> JAWS and are using that wealth of experience to attempt a comparison with a >> product that you do not have the same familiarity with. Therefore, your >> conclusions seem rather tilted. >> >> Now, I do appreciate your efforts in providing the podcast episodes, as such >> comparisons are useful. Simply to eliminate the judgemental comments would >> make them more palatable from my prospective. As I've noticed from much of >> the suggestions supplied by Anne Robertson, much of what you criticized with >> respect to VO is actually doable. I might also add, that many of these are >> not necessarily "workarounds", but really just a different way of >> approaching things. For the most part, we all have to realize that VO and >> the MacOS is not Windows, nor do I want it to be, so if we must do things a >> little differently, then so be it. >> >> Now for some specifics: >> >> • In Numbers, you made fun of Numbers saying "B4" with the word "Cell" and >> quipped about not needing to hear the word "Cell" since you knew that you >> were in a spreadsheet. You also mentioned that there was no way that you >> could stop it from saying the word "Cell". In this case, you are >> inaccurate, simply set your default verbosity to "Low" and VO will not say >> the word "Cell" anymore. >> >> I will readily admit that JAWS handles MS products very well and I'm not >> trying to say that VO handles iWork just as well, my objections are with >> your perceived expertise with VO during the comparison and your >> over-critical tone. Your obvious comfort level with JAWS allows for the >> ease of use whereas that same level of comfort is not apparent for VO. >> These inconsistencies are brought home considerably when I read the >> comments/suggestions from Anne. >> >> Maybe, instead of making such judgements, you could preface your comments >> with phrases like, "In my experience with VO thus far", or " I haven't >> figured out how to do whatever yet, but there may be someone who's more >> familiar than me with it". I feel that this would give your podcast a more >> professional tone and consequently, add validity to it. In it's current >> state, I would not be inclined to listen to further episodes. >> >> Just my thoughts. >> >> Later... >> >> On 2011-01-31, at 3:58 PM, Kevin Chao wrote: >> >>> Please have a listen to latest, episode 6 of VOiceOVer On podcast, where >>> APple iWork and Microsoft Office screen reader accessibility are compared. >>> http://VoiceOverOn.podbean.com >>> >>> If any are aware of work-arounds, -, solutions or any feedback , >>> specifically on content; please provide it with very specific steps. >>> >>> Apple Accessibility are made aware of all these issues, both text and audio >>> form, which they are more than fine with the podcast. >>> >>> Goal of VOiceOver On podcast is to highlight the good, bad and ugly of >>> VoiceOver. THis allows for people to be aware. More importantly, for APple >>> to be aware of issues in a variety of formats, which will allow for these >>> issues to be addressed at a later point. >>> >>> Kevin >>> , >>> On Jan 31, 2011, at 3:16 PM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote: >>> You k
