I also assume that you were stationary when you saw this demo.  Sprint 4G is 
good but not when you're moving or in doors.

2.5 ghz is a little rough for mobile applications.

On Feb 3, 2011, at 11:44 AM, Sarah Alawami wrote:

> at least for now, actually I watched someoen who is on sprint download 
> something do video much clear then the iphone can and faster too but I"m sure 
> that will come when at&t switches to LTE. 
> On Feb 3, 2011, at 10:08 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
> 
>> Nah,
>> I wouldn't want to be on an EV-DO network like Verizon or Sprint at this 
>> point.
>> 
>> Much much to slow.
>> 
>> On Feb 3, 2011, at 12:09 AM, Michael Thurman wrote:
>> 
>>> then iw ould shove the phone up their assorted orifaces
>>> 
>>> On Feb 3, 2011, at 1:20 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>>> 
>>>> There are a lot of price points.  Sprint wasn't bad although some objected 
>>>> to having to pay the 4G fee in non 4G citis.
>>>> 
>>>> The unlimited policy was definitely nice.
>>>> 
>>>>    I just tried to get the unlimited upgrade and no dice.  Told me to go 
>>>> to Verizon.:)
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Feb 2, 2011, at 5:21 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Actually TMobile charges $19 for unlimited which is about half of what 
>>>>> at&t would charge if they still had unlimited plans, well they sort of do 
>>>>> now but yeah.
>>>>> 
>>>>> S
>>>>> On Feb 2, 2011, at 4:28 PM, Michael Thurman wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> not when t mobile only charges 10 for the same service and  only at and 
>>>>>> t and verizon have I phones apple should hav ejust let everyone hav I 
>>>>>> phones now  if they are not careful android will kill the I phone if I 
>>>>>> could see I'd have a droid in a heartbeat
>>>>>> On Feb 2, 2011, at 4:15 PM, Scott Granados wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Well if you have a hotspot enabled you'll use more bandwidth.  What's 
>>>>>>> wrong with paying for that?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I'm with you, I know the carriers can nickel and dime with the best of 
>>>>>>> them but this doesn't seem unreasonable.  What they charge for texting 
>>>>>>> is unreasonable now that they should reduce.:)
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Feb 2, 2011, at 1:09 PM, Michael Thurman wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> it's assanine that they want to charge more for tha thot spot   I'm 
>>>>>>>> sick of getting jacked over by these companies
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Jan 30, 2011, at 4:29 PM, Sarah Alawami wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> If att and vz would bundle the hotspot in with out charging then I 
>>>>>>>>> would nit consider jailbreaking. 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On 30/01/2011, at 12:57, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com> 
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> That's what I'm reading.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Honestly I'm thinking just holding out.  Really the only reason I'd 
>>>>>>>>>> jailbreak would be to have a WiFi hotspot.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 30, 2011, at 9:07 AM, Ben Mustill-Rose wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Apple didn't make cydia. It was made by someone who goes by the name
>>>>>>>>>>> Saurik who is involved with a group of people that call themselves 
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> iPhone dev team - they have nothing to do with apple.
>>>>>>>>>>> Tethered jailbreaks really aren't worth it imo scott.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On 30/01/2011, Scott Granados <scott.grana...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Rose, this is fantastic.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for this resource!
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 30, 2011, at 12:55 AM, Rose Morales wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have written two extensive articles on jailbreaking. They can 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> be found
>>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-101-introduction-blind-perspective
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://applevis.com/guides/ios/jailbreaking-104-installing-jailbreak-apps-using-cyder-2
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, Icy went open source, and you can download a new version 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> designed
>>>>>>>>>>>>> for OS 4, as described in jb104. If you wish to install Icy after 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>>> jailbreak, copy the files in this zip to the autoinstall path for 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> jb apps,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> also described in jb104.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3819637/Icy.zip.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> JB101 also explains where to find the latest and most reliable 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> jailbreak
>>>>>>>>>>>>> information.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hth,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Rose
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 30, 2011, at 3:27 AM, Scott Granados wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Would you mind detailing how you did that and the steps you tok 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jailbreak.  Maybe provide a link?  I was thinking of giving it a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> shot but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was talked out of it on the list.  I like the idea of a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jailbreak process
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> though.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I wish the jailbreakme.com one worked for 4.2.1.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jan 29, 2011, at 8:04 AM, James Malone wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi guys. Recently I Jailbroke my phone, but have run into an 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> issue. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tried to start Cidia so I could go grab an app, but Voiceover 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doesn't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seem to like it. Suggestions have been made to get Icy, but 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> seems to point in the direction of downloading it with Cidia. 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Besides,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Icy isn't being made anymore either, so I've heard. Can anyone 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suggest
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what I should do? If worse comes to worsed, I'll grab some 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sighted
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> asistance. But still, something that was made by the apple Dev 
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> team
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> really should be accessible. Anyway, thanks guys.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
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