Re: [SAtalk] newbie question: procmail's eating my headers

2002-06-26 Thread Bart Schaefer
On Wed, 26 Jun 2002, William Porquet wrote: > I had that happen to me too. I had to manually edit the user's spool file > and turn the "rom" into "From" to keep the email clients from gaggingn > > On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, Aaron Falk wrote: > > > I'm trying to integrate Spamassassin into my RH7.2 sys

Re: [SAtalk] SpamAssassin idea?

2002-06-26 Thread Olivier Nicole
>I believe the only check that for instance sendmail could do, is to >check if a lookup of the ip gives the hostname, and if the hostname >lookup doesnt give the IP, then it can block the message. But in >real life, there are so many situations where this is not the case, >that blocking that scen

Re: [SAtalk] SpamAssassin idea?

2002-06-26 Thread Paul Wouters
On Wed, 26 Jun 2002, Olivier Nicole wrote: > I wonder how it happened actually. Only way would be that the machine > with 216.139.180.4 connected to your mail server and started the > dialog with HELO and your own mailserver name. I think that would actually give (for sendmail) the "apparently f

Re: [SAtalk] SUBJ_ALL_CAPS score?

2002-06-26 Thread Bob Proulx
> are the scores listed on the tests-page up to date? > The SUBJ_ALL_CAPS is scored -0.054. > This means that all caps subjects are a sign of trustworthiness !? Only at a very small level. Basically the new (small) values say that subject all caps has no strong indication at all of the message b

[SAtalk] Microsoft Outlook Test Message = spam?

2002-06-26 Thread Darren Coleman
Hi, I found this faintly comical but nevertheless it does seem to be a bit of an anomoly. Is it correct that Microsoft's Outlook test message is marked as spam in Razor? (I happen to beef up the RAZOR_CHECK score more than SA default config because I was under the assumption it was a fool-pro

Re: [SAtalk] Latest version not on CPAN

2002-06-26 Thread Matt Sergeant
William R Ward wrote: > I just tried to install 2.31 using CPAN.pm and it said I am up to > date. I have 2.20. When is 2.31 going to be released to CPAN? http://search.cpan.org/search?dist=Mail-SpamAssassin Maybe you're using a slow/crap mirror? Matt. --

RE: [SAtalk] Microsoft Outlook Test Message = spam?

2002-06-26 Thread Darren Coleman
Ah, thanks for the clarification :) I will amend my RAZOR_CHECK score accordingly. (And apologies for the HTML mail :( ) Daz > -Original Message- > From: Matt Sergeant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: 26 June 2002 10:15 > To: Darren Coleman > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [SAt

Re: [SAtalk] Microsoft Outlook Test Message = spam?

2002-06-26 Thread Matt Sergeant
Darren Coleman wrote: > Hi, > > I found this faintly comical but nevertheless it does seem to be a bit > of an anomoly. Is it correct that Microsoft's Outlook test message is > marked as spam in Razor? (I happen to beef up the RAZOR_CHECK score more > than SA default config because I was under t

Re: [SAtalk] Help - a mail SA can't cope with?

2002-06-26 Thread Andreas Busch
On Wed, 26 Jun 2002 01:50:05 PDT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> SA does not add the required LF at the end of the message, and as >> a result, my MTA (slocal) does not see the end of the message, >> resulting in messages being lumped together. >> This has caused me to stop using SA 2.31. You c

Re: [SAtalk] newbie question: procmail's eating my headers

2002-06-26 Thread Rob Mangiafico
On Wed, 26 Jun 2002, Bart Schaefer wrote: > > I had that happen to me too. I had to manually edit the user's spool file > > and turn the "rom" into "From" to keep the email clients from gaggingn > > > > On Fri, 7 Jun 2002, Aaron Falk wrote: > > > > > I'm trying to integrate Spamassassin into my

[SAtalk] Proper way to handle misidentified spam site-wide?

2002-06-26 Thread John Goggan
I've just started using MailScanner and SpamAssassin this week. I am using it site-wide -- trying to reduce spam for all of our users (just a handful actually). For now, I am just having the subject lines modified. In the future, I want to be confident enough about the spam detection to actual

[SAtalk] error I encountered while making SA

2002-06-26 Thread Weyland
This is a paste of the error I encountered while making SpamAssassin. Can someone tell me what this means? Thank you, Weyland [root@MYBOX Mail-SpamAssassin-2.20]# make test PERL_DL_NONLAZY=1 /usr/bin/perl -Iblib/arch -Iblib/lib -I/usr/lib/perl5/5.6.0/i386-linux -I/usr/lib/perl5/5.6.0 -e 'us

[SAtalk] Warning message in recent cvs

2002-06-26 Thread Harry Putnam
I'm running beta 5.8.0 perl Getting the latest cvs spamassassin then running perl Makefile.PL Gives this curt warning: reader # perl Makefile.PL WARNING: PL_FILES takes a hash reference not a string/number. Please inform the author. Checking if your kit is complete... Looks good W

Re: [SAtalk] Latest version not on CPAN

2002-06-26 Thread Vivek Khera
> "WRW" == William R Ward writes: WRW> I just tried to install 2.31 using CPAN.pm and it said I am up to WRW> date. I have 2.20. When is 2.31 going to be released to CPAN? try a different CPAN server; I did the upgrade via CPAN on the duke.edu mirror a few days ago, and it got 2.31. you

[SAtalk] Re: Displaying values of hit rules in header?

2002-06-26 Thread Harry Putnam
John Goggan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > X-MailScanner-SpamCheck: SpamAssassin (score=9.9, required 7, > FROM_ENDS_IN_NUMS (0.382), CLICK_BELOW (1.531), EXCUSE_7 (1.305), EXCUSE_3 > (1.080), DOUBLE_CAPSWORD (1.050), CLICK_HERE_LINK (0.847), MAILTO_LINK > (0.782), NO_MX_FOR_FROM (1.8), MSG_ID_ADD

[SAtalk] PLEASE HELP! rewrite of subject line doesn't work...

2002-06-26 Thread mario kammerer
hello, i got qmail-scanner with SA 2.20 working on my mailserver i got header information on new written email, which tells me, that is spam. - Received: from [EMAIL PROTECTED] by server by uid 532 with qmail-scanner-1.12 (spamassassin: 2.20. . Clear:SA:1(32.2/10.0):. Processe

Re: [SAtalk] error I encountered while making SA

2002-06-26 Thread Bart Schaefer
On Wed, 26 Jun 2002, Weyland wrote: > Can someone tell me what this means? SA 2.20 uses your local.cf scores when running its tests, so some of the tests can go wrong. 2.30 and later have fixed this. If you don't have any local scores that could be causing this, then I'm as much in the dark a

[SAtalk] CVS version still 2.21

2002-06-26 Thread Harry Putnam
Am I getting my cvs from the wrong source tree? Just reupped my cvs today and I see the version still says 2.21. --- This sf.net email is sponsored by: Jabber Inc. Don't miss the IM event of the season | Special offer for OSDN members! Jab

Re: [SAtalk] SpamAssassin idea?

2002-06-26 Thread Vivek Khera
> "ON" == Olivier Nicole <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: ON> I wonder how it happened actually. Only way would be that the machine ON> with 216.139.180.4 connected to your mail server and started the ON> dialog with HELO and your own mailserver name. ON> Now I see no reason why in real life one

Re: [SAtalk] CVS version still 2.21

2002-06-26 Thread Matt Sergeant
Harry Putnam wrote: > Am I getting my cvs from the wrong source tree? > > Just reupped my cvs today and I see the version still says 2.21. try: cvs update -A -d --- This sf.net email is sponsored by: Jabber Inc. Don't miss the IM event of

[SAtalk] Re: [SAdev] spamassassin for windows

2002-06-26 Thread rODbegbie
Matt Sergeant wrote: > Alternatively, yes, I'd use sourceforge. They're crap, but probably > the best crap we have ;-) Or as the old Your Sinclair t-shirts used to say: "It's CRAP! But in a funky, skillo sort of way" rOD. -- "Everybody's screwed up in their own special way! I'm Mr. Punchy!"

Re: [SAtalk] error I encountered while making SA

2002-06-26 Thread Weyland
On Wednesday 26 June 2002 11:47 am, Bart Schaefer spake: > SA 2.20 uses your local.cf scores when running its tests, so some of the > tests can go wrong. 2.30 and later have fixed this. > > If you don't have any local scores that could be causing this, then I'm > as much in the dark as you. Tha

[SAtalk] FreeBSD Install Problem

2002-06-26 Thread Jonathan Duncan
I recently downloaded SpamAssassin 2.31 and tried perl -MCPAN -e shell o conf prerequisites_policy ask install Mail::SpamAssassin quit - and - perl Makefile.PL make make install[as root] Both processes game me this error message: cc -

Re: [SAtalk] SpamAssassin idea?

2002-06-26 Thread Matt Sergeant
Olivier Nicole wrote: >>I believe the only check that for instance sendmail could do, is to >>check if a lookup of the ip gives the hostname, and if the hostname >>lookup doesnt give the IP, then it can block the message. But in >>real life, there are so many situations where this is not the case

Re: [SAtalk] Microsoft Outlook Test Message = spam?

2002-06-26 Thread Vivek Khera
> "DC" == Darren Coleman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: DC> I found this faintly comical but nevertheless it does seem to be a DC> bit of an anomoly. Is it correct that Microsoft's Outlook test DC> message is marked as spam in Razor? (I happen to beef up the DC> RAZOR_CHECK score more than SA d

[SAtalk] What version of Perl is required for SpamAssassin?

2002-06-26 Thread tang
Just installed SpamAssassin on our Sun's Ultra10 running Solaris 7, but it doesn't work: tang@bionmr3:~/bin/SpamAssassin 124>./spamassassin < sample-nonspam.txt Can't locate Time/HiRes.pm in @INC (@INC contains: ../lib lib /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.6.1/sun4-solaris /usr/local/lib/perl5/5.6.1 /usr/lo

Re: [SAtalk] What version of Perl is required for SpamAssassin?

2002-06-26 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Wed, Jun 26, 2002 at 12:05:26PM -0500, tang wrote: > tang@bionmr3:~/bin/SpamAssassin 124>./spamassassin < sample-nonspam.txt > Can't locate Time/HiRes.pm in @INC (@INC contains: ../lib lib It's not a perl version error, it's a "you don't have the required modules" error. It can't find Time::H

Re: [SAtalk] Help - a mail SA can't cope with?

2002-06-26 Thread Vivek Khera
> "AB" == Andreas Busch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: AB> Anyway, I can't really answer your question. All I can say that the AB> messages are properly delivered without spamassassin and lumped AB> together with spamassassin. Well, then SA's idea of your spool file format is not the same as

Re: [SAtalk] What version of Perl is required for SpamAssassin?

2002-06-26 Thread David Rees
On Wed, Jun 26, 2002 at 12:05:26PM -0500, tang wrote: > Just installed SpamAssassin on our Sun's Ultra10 running Solaris 7, > but it doesn't work: > > tang@bionmr3:~/bin/SpamAssassin 124>./spamassassin < sample-nonspam.txt > Can't locate Time/HiRes.pm in @INC (@INC contains: ../lib lib > /usr/loc

Re: [SAtalk] What version of Perl is required for SpamAssassin?

2002-06-26 Thread Miles Fidelman
On Wed, 26 Jun 2002, tang wrote: > Just installed SpamAssassin on our Sun's Ultra10 running Solaris 7, > but it doesn't work: > > tang@bionmr3:~/bin/SpamAssassin 124>./spamassassin < sample-nonspam.txt > Can't locate Time/HiRes.pm in @INC (@INC contains: ../lib lib This isn't a version problem.

[SAtalk] Re: CVS version still 2.21

2002-06-26 Thread Harry Putnam
Matt Sergeant <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Harry Putnam wrote: >> Am I getting my cvs from the wrong source tree? Just reupped my cvs >> today and I see the version still says 2.21. > > try: > > cvs update -A -d Trying as directed I see no difference at all. I cp -a 'ed spamassassin spama_pre_

RE: [SAtalk] What version of Perl is required for SpamAssassin?

2002-06-26 Thread Mark Roedel
> -Original Message- > From: David Rees [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 12:26 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [SAtalk] What version of Perl is required for > SpamAssassin? > > > It seems that recent (>=2.30) versions of SpamAssassin > require perl

Re: [SAtalk] What version of Perl is required for SpamAssassin?

2002-06-26 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Wed, Jun 26, 2002 at 10:26:16AM -0700, David Rees wrote: > It seems that recent (>=2.30) versions of SpamAssassin require perl 5.6 or > higher. ??? It's running fine for me on Perl 5.00503. (needed to patch the dcc availability check though.) -- Randomly Generated Tagline: "Truly unencumb

Re: [SAtalk] spamd woes (was: spamd ignoring local.cf)

2002-06-26 Thread M. Brownsworth
> > Has the possibility of >> using the envelope headers instead been suggested to Craig Hughes? > >Not all mail system tells you what is the enveloppe. Unless your mail >system has a way to include the enveloppe inside the message headers, >then SA will not know about it. > >But if your goal is

Re: [SAtalk] What version of Perl is required for SpamAssassin?

2002-06-26 Thread David Rees
On Wed, Jun 26, 2002 at 01:49:23PM -0400, Theo Van Dinter wrote: > On Wed, Jun 26, 2002 at 10:26:16AM -0700, David Rees wrote: > > It seems that recent (>=2.30) versions of SpamAssassin require perl 5.6 or > > higher. > > ??? It's running fine for me on Perl 5.00503. (needed to patch the > dcc

[SAtalk] how does one accomplish prefix=dir

2002-06-26 Thread Harry Putnam
I'm a little lost in installing spamassassin without using the ./configure approach. For example: How does one instruct the `make install' to use /usr/local instead of /usr? I don't know much about makefiles but looking at the one in the distro Makefile.PL and resulting Makefile, I couldn't te

Re: [SAtalk] how does one accomplish prefix=dir

2002-06-26 Thread David T-G
Harry -- ...and then Harry Putnam said... % % I'm a little lost in installing spamassassin without using the % ./configure approach. For example: How does one instruct the % `make install' to use /usr/local instead of /usr? Heh. I remember beating my head to a bruise against this one :-) Y

Re: [SAtalk] Share / Contribute our site local.cf settings

2002-06-26 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Fri, Jun 21, 2002 at 12:07:36PM -0500, Smart, Dan wrote: > header RCVD_IN_FIVETEN eval:check_rbl('relay', 'blackholes.five-ten-sg.com') Note that you should starting using > header RCVD_IN_FIVETEN rbleval:check_rbl('relay', >'blackholes.five-ten-sg.com') RBLs are run in a d

Re: [SAtalk] Re: Fw: Hi, it's Nadia. please come talk with me.. I have a webcam

2002-06-26 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Fri, Jun 21, 2002 at 11:11:20PM -0500, Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote: > Your setup must be odd. Your message got -1.4 on my site, but I have > a SALIST rule scoring -10. If you hadn't sent it to the list it would You should put -100, some messages I've received here have scored as much as 50+

Re: [SAtalk] Razor Compatability

2002-06-26 Thread Marc MERLIN
On Sun, Jun 16, 2002 at 05:30:52PM -0400, Theo Van Dinter wrote: > To remove the extra debugging output one needs to comment out line 164 > in Signature/Ephemeral.pm > > --- lib/Razor2/Signature/Ephemeral.pm,origSun Jun 16 13:22:22 2002 > +++ lib/Razor2/Signature/Ephemeral.pm Sun Jun 16 13:18

Re: [SAtalk] SA doesn

2002-06-26 Thread Kevin Gagel
SpamAssassin Talk List My mistake. It does. My batch file was wrong. New problem though. All email that do get put through and marked up end up with extra line feeds in them. I know this is because *nix and the windows platform handle them diffrently. What I don't know is if there is anything I

Re: [SAtalk] Proper way to handle misidentified spam site-wide?

2002-06-26 Thread Olivier Nicole
John, >I'm just worried that it will come up more and more as people join such >"specials" mailing lists since they look so much like spam sometimes. I just >want to know how to handle them. Especially since when I switch to "delete", >they wouldn't even SEE the emails to be able to whitelist t

Re: [SAtalk] spamd woes (was: spamd ignoring local.cf)

2002-06-26 Thread Olivier Nicole
Hi Michelle, > Actually, I'm running spamd server-wide, invoked from a main > procmailrc. In your scheme, spamd would be called only directly from So do I. > the user's .procmailrc, right? Would it still be possible to somehow > use the .no_spam_check method to opt out when using server-wi

[SAtalk] NYT on spam

2002-06-26 Thread Dan Kohn
Great NYT [1]overview by Jennifer Lee on the state of the spam problem today: ISPs say that "50 percent of incoming e-mail traffic is spam." -- Posted by Dan Kohn to [2]Dan Kohn's Blog at 6/26/2002 6:55:16 PM Powered by [3]Blogger Pro References 1. http://www.nytimes.com/2002/0

Re: [SAtalk] Proper way to handle misidentified spam site-wide?

2002-06-26 Thread John Goggan
Hi there. Thanks for the info. Have you done modifications or are you using a standard MailScanner/SpamAssassin setup? I've set mine to "store" not instead of "deliver" -- and I plan to go through them manually to check for misidentifications (at least for now). However, I don't see WHERE the

Re: [SAtalk] SpamAssassin idea?

2002-06-26 Thread Olivier Nicole
Hi, > > Now I see no reason why in real life one should accept such case. I'd > > say that in real life I only accept connection from machine with valid > > DNS and reverse DNS. > Sadly ISP's aren't as on-the-ball as you are. I've been trying for > months to get my ISP to setup reverse DNS for s

Re: [SAtalk] how does one accomplish prefix=dir

2002-06-26 Thread Harry Putnam
David T-G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > ...and then Harry Putnam said... > % > % I'm a little lost in installing spamassassin without using the > % ./configure approach. For example: How does one instruct the > % `make install' to use /usr/local instead of /usr? > > Heh. I remember beating m

[SAtalk] Re: Re: Fw: Hi, it's Nadia. please come talk with me.. I have a webcam

2002-06-26 Thread Derrick 'dman' Hudson
On Tue, Jun 25, 2002 at 01:52:33PM -0700, Marc MERLIN wrote: | On Fri, Jun 21, 2002 at 11:11:20PM -0500, Derrick 'dman' Hudson wrote: | > Your setup must be odd. Your message got -1.4 on my site, but I have | > a SALIST rule scoring -10. If you hadn't sent it to the list it would | | You should

Re: [SAtalk] Proper way to handle misidentified spam site-wide?

2002-06-26 Thread Olivier Nicole
John, > Have you done modifications or are you using > a standard MailScanner/SpamAssassin setup? I've set mine to "store" not > instead of "deliver" -- and I plan to go through them manually to check for > misidentifications (at least for now). I use procmail, not mailscanner, so everything is

Re: [SAtalk] FreeBSD Install Problem

2002-06-26 Thread Duncan Findlay
On Wed, Jun 26, 2002 at 04:31:59PM -, Jonathan Duncan wrote: > Both processes game me this error message: > > cc -fno-strict-aliasing -I/usr/local/include -O spamd/spamc.c -o > spamd/spamc -Wl,-E -L/usr/local/lib -lg dbm -lm -lc -lcrypt -liconv -lutil > /usr/libexec/elf/ld: cannot find -lic

Re: [SAtalk] how does one accomplish prefix=dir

2002-06-26 Thread Duncan Findlay
On Wed, Jun 26, 2002 at 02:11:37PM -0500, David T-G wrote: > You're going to run the perl file Makefile.PL and so you need to pass it > arguments. Of course, arguments aren't in the form of --... but instead > simply > > perl Makefile.PL PREFIX=/usr/local > > and away you go :-) I forget wha

Re: [SAtalk] Re: Re: Fw: Hi, it's Nadia. please come talk with me.. I have a webcam

2002-06-26 Thread Olivier Nicole
>Those would be Olivier's French translation of the rule descriptions. >Either he can package them up differently (gzip or something) or I can >lose them. *I*'m not going to do anything with that translation >either way. (btw, I am saving a copy of all sa-exim rejected mail, for now) :P Well

[SAtalk] (1) User_prefs ignored? (2) Permission problem?

2002-06-26 Thread Bob Sully
Hey all - I'm running 2.30 under RedHat 7.2 (with security updates) and 2.4.9 (custom-compiled). I have the RBL and Vipul's Razor options enabled, otherwise completely stock. I did change the threshold to 6.0 points in my local user_prefs and added a couple of whitelist entries. I run spam