Re: [SAtalk] Razor server timeout problems ?

At 02:00 AM 1/28/2004, Simon Byrnand wrote: Has anyone else noticed frequent timeouts with Razor2 ? I disabled it Friday due to timeouts. In my experience, razor often has short-term problems that last a couple days then clear up. Right now they're probably experiencing high load, just like ever

RE: [SAtalk] Razor server timeout problems ?

I think that given that there is a virus storm going on right now, that this sort of behaviour could be expected. Alan > > I actually just noticed this now. The razor2 servers aren't > responding > properly it would seem. Haven't since yesterday. -

Re: [SAtalk] Razor server timeout problems ?

At 04:33 29/01/2004, Matt Kettler wrote: At 02:00 AM 1/28/2004, Simon Byrnand wrote: Has anyone else noticed frequent timeouts with Razor2 ? I disabled it Friday due to timeouts. Ah... Yes I just disabled it myself last night after about half an hour of debugging to make sure it wasn't a software

Re: [SAtalk] Razor server timeout problems ?

On Wed, 2004-01-28 at 02:00, Simon Byrnand wrote: > Has anyone else noticed frequent timeouts with Razor2 ? > > I'm seeing timeouts nearly all the time from most of the Razor servers > causing spamd to take 10 seconds instead of the usual 1 second or so... > (I've also noticed more spam than usual

RE: [SAtalk] Razor server timeout problems ?

I actually just noticed this now. The razor2 servers aren't responding properly it would seem. Haven't since yesterday. Of the servers I see in my razor2 catalog, "anxiety.cloudmark.com" and "wonder.cloudmark.com" do not respond to the signatures sent to them (although the initial connection and

Re: [SAtalk] Razor issue on Debian

At 03:02 PM 1/18/04 +0100, Erik van der Meulen wrote: I get: debug: Razor Agents 1.20, protocol version 2. razor 1.20 is a very old version of razor, and 1.x versions are no longer supported by SA. try getting razor 2.36 and applying the taint-safeness patch. --

Re: [SAtalk] razor and spamassassin

On Thu, Jan 08, 2004 at 08:17:57AM -0600, SAtalk Mail User wrote: > I have a question i regards to razor2 and spamassassin - this is what I see > from my maillog, I have spamd in debug mode, I am wondering if you can tell me > if razor is being used. If so how can I tell that razor2 is being utili

Re: [SAtalk] Razor and Spamassassin vs spamc

Are you running spamd as yourself, or as another user (nobody, or root, or whatever)? It sounds quite likely that the user your running spamd as doesn't have a ~/.razor/ set up, but your own user does. On Mon, 8 Dec 2003, Mark Norton wrote: > Any reason why I would get razor results against spam

Re: [SAtalk] Razor questions

My .razor/servers.discovery.lst has 66.151.150.11.   I know Razor is running with SA, but how can I find out if Razor is using their "distributed, collaborative, spam detection and filtering network"?  I should see something in the debugged log file about connections to servers, correct?   t

Re: [SAtalk] Razor questions

On Tue, 25 Nov 2003, Ron Weales wrote: > I know Razor is running with SA, but how can I find out if Razor is using > their "distributed, collaborative, spam detection and filtering network"? > I should see something in the debugged log file about connections to > servers, correct? spamassassin -

Re: [SAtalk] Razor questions

On Tue, 25 Nov 2003, Ron Weales wrote: > However, I never saw anything about "read server list", "closest server > is" or "connecting to"... > So it appears that Razor isn't connecting to their servers. It just so happened --- I'm working right now on why it seems razor stopped working here. It

Re: [SAtalk] Razor and DCC

At 03:48 PM 11/20/03 +1100, Zlatko Hristov wrote: Does Razor and DCC do a direct lookup to same database on the internet every time SA scans a message? Or its storing that database localy somehow. I know that razor checks it's server each time a message is scanned. Razor never stores a database l

Re: [SAtalk] Razor and DCC

Razor does a lookup to the Razor server every time. Nothing is cached. I assume the same for DCC On Thu, Nov 20, 2003 at 03:48:51PM +1100, Zlatko Hristov wrote: > Hello, > > Does Razor and DCC do a direct lookup to same database on the internet > every time SA scans a message? Or its storing

Re: [SAtalk] Razor problems

This problem has caused me to stop using Spamassassin to do individual reporting, and instead strip the emails and use razor itself to send spam in batches. I've found this to decrease the errors substantially. Additionally, now that I send in batches every 5 minutes, if razor refuses the report,

Re: [SAtalk] Razor does not work with spamd?

on 11/15/03 5:59 AM, David B Funk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > When logged in as your 'spamd' user, if you do the test: > > spamassassin -D --lint > > do you see spamassassin using razor? Yes ++ Mike Yrabedra (President) 323 Incorporated Home of

Re: [SAtalk] Razor does not work with spamd?

On Thu, 13 Nov 2003, MIKE YRABEDRA wrote: > on 11/13/03 6:07 PM, Chip Paswater at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Have you gotten razor working by itself? > > Yes, it works fine. I have just never been able to use it with spamd?? OK, next test spamassassin+razor. When logged in as your 'spamd' us

Re: [SAtalk] Razor connection times out

> Razor doesn't seem to be working. This is the output I get with > spamassassin -D: > > Nov 14 08:56:05.758908 report[31327]: [ 8] Checking with Razor Discovery Server 216.52.3.2 > Nov 14 08:56:05.758989 report[31327]: [ 6] No port specified, using 2703 > Nov 14 08:56:05.759036 report[31327]: [

RE: [SAtalk] Razor connection times out

> Nov 14 08:56:05.758908 report[31327]: [ 8] Checking with > Razor Discovery Server 216.52.3.2 Nov 14 08:56:05.758989 > report[31327]: [ 6] No port specified, using 2703 Nov 14 > 08:56:05.759036 report[31327]: [ 5] Connecting to 216.52.3.2 ... > debug: razor2 report timed out after 10 secs. >

Re: [SAtalk] Razor connection times out

on 11/14/03 8:59 AM, Philip Mak at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Razor doesn't seem to be working. This is the output I get with > spamassassin -D: > > Nov 14 08:56:05.758908 report[31327]: [ 8] Checking with Razor Discovery > Server 216.52.3.2 > Nov 14 08:56:05.758989 report[31327]: [ 6] No port sp

Re: [SAtalk] Razor does not work with spamd?

on 11/13/03 6:07 PM, Chip Paswater at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Have you gotten razor working by itself? Yes, it works fine. I have just never been able to use it with spamd?? ++ Mike Yrabedra (President) 323 Incorporated Home of MacDock.com, Mac

Re: [SAtalk] Razor does not work with spamd?

Have you gotten razor working by itself? On Thu, Nov 13, 2003 at 05:20:44PM -0500, MIKE YRABEDRA wrote: > on 11/13/03 4:49 PM, David B Funk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Other thing to try, run spamd with the '-D' flag to turn on > > debugging output. (But don't run it that way for too long u

Re: [SAtalk] Razor does not work with spamd?

on 11/13/03 4:49 PM, David B Funk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Other thing to try, run spamd with the '-D' flag to turn on > debugging output. (But don't run it that way for too long unless > you have a -large- disk to hold the output ;). I did this and it says nothing about razor??? -

Re: [SAtalk] Razor does not work with spamd?

On Thu, 13 Nov 2003, MIKE YRABEDRA wrote: > > > I have been trying to get razor to work with spamd. > > I know it works with ./spamassassin --lint -D > > It also works with CGPSA (calls SA directly). > > But it does not want to work with spamd? > > Where are some places I can look , things I can t

Re: [SAtalk] Razor/SA integration

Ken Bass wrote: Several people recommended "formail -s spamassassin -r < mbox_full_of_spam". Oops, sorry to have done the same (I didn't see this message when I wrote my reply)... --- This SF.Net email sponsored by: ApacheCon 2003, 16-19

Re: [SAtalk] Razor/SA integration

Ken Bass wrote: Since the messages are received post spamassassin processing they contain all the spamassassin stuff (marked-up-and put-in-an-attachment version). My understanding was that sa-learn is smart enough to ignore all its marked up stuff. I hope that it true even when it is given the '--

Re: [SAtalk] Razor/SA integration

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ken Bass writes: >So I guess my original question turns into a request, can spamassassin be >changed so that '-r' option accepts an mbox file and it iterates over the >messages to submit them. Or could sa-learn be changed so that it becomes the >top l

Re: [SAtalk] Razor/SA integration

Several people recommended "formail -s spamassassin -r < mbox_full_of_spam". Thanks. While this works I don't like that it does not provide status from its invocation of sa-learn such as 'Learned from 10 message(s) 13 message(s) examined)'. I ended up calling sa-learn --mbox first, then the above f

Re: [SAtalk] Razor/SA integration

Since the messages are received post spamassassin processing they contain all the spamassassin stuff (marked-up-and put-in-an-attachment version). My understanding was that sa-learn is smart enough to ignore all its marked up stuff. I hope that it true even when it is given the '--mbox' option. The

Re: [SAtalk] Razor/SA integration

Ken Bass wrote: My question is how to report a *mailbox* of spam to razor2. I just added razor2 to my configuration and wanted to contribute. ... I then call 'sa-learn --mbox --spam' on the input file If I understand correctly, this means that at this point you have the messages in their origin

Re: [SAtalk] Razor slows down SA

At 08:38 AM 11/7/03 -0500, you wrote: I have noticed that RAzor2 is timing out and slowing down SA 2.6. Has something changed in the past few months that may have caused this? Maybe the razorzone has changed? I use razor2.cloudmark.com now. I don't think the zone itself is likely to change anytime

Re: [SAtalk] Razor Patch

Am Donnerstag, 2. Oktober 2003 hat Scott Rothgaber zum Thema "Re: [SAtalk] Razor Patch" folgendes getippt: > > Where is the 'patch' executable supposed to come from? > Most likely in a directory that's not in your PATH. ;-) > find /usr -name patch -print

Re: [SAtalk] Razor Patch

Robert Krüger wrote: Where is the 'patch' executable supposed to come from? Most likely in a directory that's not in your PATH. ;-) find /usr -name patch -print --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://t

Re: [SAtalk] Razor Patch

Robert Krüger wrote: > I've tried to apply the razor2-patch like it's described in the > Readme and FAQ, but it doesn't work. > > I tried to execute: patch -p0 < Razor2.patch > > but I only got "command not found". Where is the 'patch' executable > supposed to come from? What do I have to install

RE: [SAtalk] Razor Patch

Best to do this as "root". Or try "/usr/bin/patch". William L. Polhemus, Jr. P.E. Polhemus Engineering Company Katy, Texas USA -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Robert Krüger Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 4:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Su

Re: [SAtalk] Razor Patch

On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 11:57:35PM +0200, Robert Kr?ger wrote: > Hi there, > > I've tried to apply the razor2-patch like it's described in the Readme > and FAQ, but it doesn't work. > > I tried to execute: patch -p0 < Razor2.patch > > but I only got "command not found". Where is the 'patch' exe

RE: [SAtalk] Razor-users-2.36 make install error: Can't locate loadable object for module Digest::SHA1

- From: Patrick Morris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 29, 2003 3:48 PM To: John Schneider Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SAtalk] Razor-users-2.36 make install error: Can't locate loadable object for module Digest::SHA1 You might try "force install Digest::SHA1.&qu

Re: [SAtalk] Razor-users-2.36 make install error: Can't locate loadable object for module Digest::SHA1

You might try "force install Digest::SHA1." It looks like *parts* of it are up to date, but not all of it. John Schneider wrote: Can I do that in CPAN or do I have to do it outside to correct the problem? When I do a "install Digest::MD5" and "install Digest::SHA1" in CPAN currently it tells

RE: [SAtalk] Razor-users-2.36 make install error: Can't locate loadable object for module Digest::SHA1

ystems Manager, DAUM Commercial Real Estate Services -Original Message- From: Andreas Stollar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 29, 2003 4:00 PM To: John Schneider Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [SAtalk] Razor-users-2.36 make install error: Can't locate loadable objec

RE: [SAtalk] Razor-users-2.36 make install error: Can't locate loadable object for module Digest::SHA1

; From: John Schneider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: 'Andreas Stollar' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: RE: [SAtalk] Razor-users-2.36 make install error: Can't locate > loadable object for modu

RE: [SAtalk] Razor-users-2.36 make install error: Can't locate loadable object for module Digest::SHA1

Information Systems Manager, DAUM Commercial Real Estate Services -Original Message- From: Andreas Stollar [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 29, 2003 2:51 PM To: John Schneider Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [SAtalk] Razor-users-2.36 make install error: Can't locate l

RE: [SAtalk] Razor-users-2.36 make install error: Can't locate loadable object for module Digest::SHA1

To: John Schneider Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SAtalk] Razor-users-2.36 make install error: Can't locate loadable object for module Digest::SHA1 Did you do a 'make install' ? Seems like its not finding the right perl modules, this usually happens to me after a perl upgrade

RE: [SAtalk] Razor-users-2.36 make install error: Can't locate loadable object for module Digest::SHA1

ED]> > To: 'Andreas Stollar' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: RE: [SAtalk] Razor-users-2.36 make install error: Can't locate > loadable object for module Digest::SHA1 > > Yes. That happe

Re: [SAtalk] Razor-users-2.36 make install error: Can't locate loadable object for module Digest::SHA1

Did you do a 'make install' ? Seems like its not finding the right perl modules, this usually happens to me after a perl upgrade. Andreas On Sat, 27 Sep 2003, John Schneider wrote: > Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2003 16:34:50 -0700 > From: John Schneider <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" >

Re: [SAtalk] razor

On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 17:38:48 +0100 in [EMAIL PROTECTED] "Brian Morrison" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Will try again with the latest Razor patch in the 2.60 release version > of SA. Razor now patched correctly with contents of 2.60 Razor2.patch file, SA now returning Razor results again. Phew! T

Re: [SAtalk] razor

On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 09:30:39 +0100, Brian Morrison wrote: >On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 07:55:37 +0200 in >[EMAIL PROTECTED] Antoine Jacoutot ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> OK, here is my complete log; it does show lines about razor, but >> there's nothing in my razor logs (/root/.razor/razor-agent.log):

Re: [SAtalk] razor

On Tue, 23 Sep 2003 07:55:37 +0200 in [EMAIL PROTECTED] Antoine Jacoutot <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > OK, here is my complete log; it does show lines about razor, but > there's nothing in my razor logs (/root/.razor/razor-agent.log): > I've noticed that my .razor/razor-agent.log was last writt

Re: [SAtalk] razor

Selon Hannu Liljemark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Uh... so is spamd working at all? Do you see spamd write logs when mail > goes through the system? How about that 'spamassassin -t -D < testmail', > does it show lines about razor? OK, here is my complete log; it does show lines about razor, but th

Re: [SAtalk] razor

On Mon, Sep 22, 2003 at 09:52:40PM +0200, Antoine Jacoutot wrote: > No, I still don't have anything in the logs... > Here is my sendmail entry concerning spamassassin: > INPUT_MAIL_FILTER(`spamassassin', `S=local:/var/run/spamass-milter.sock, F=, > T=C:15m;S:4m;R:4m;E:10m') > > And here is the p

Re: [SAtalk] razor

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 22 September 2003 11:16, Hannu Liljemark wrote: > Does razor work now and does running spamassassin with the -D flag show > razor in action? No, I still don't have anything in the logs... Here is my sendmail entry concerning spamassassin: IN

Re: [SAtalk] razor

On Mon, Sep 22, 2003 at 08:09:14AM +0200, Antoine Jacoutot wrote: > OK, use_razor2 is set to 1, but where (or how) do I set "network tests > enabled" ? > Thanks for your answer... Hmm ok perhaps I got mixed up with RBL or some MIMEDefang thing; there's no network tests. Does razor work now an

Re: [SAtalk] razor

Selon Hannu Liljemark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > You shoud be seeing a lot more of those... 'is not known spam' and > 'is known spam'. Make sure you have use_razor2 set to 1 and network > tests enabled. Do some test with 'spamassassin -t -D < testmail' and > see if there's anything about razor.

Re: [SAtalk] razor

On Sun, Sep 21, 2003 at 02:16:57PM +0200, Antoine Jacoutot wrote: > I just have one question regarding smapassassin and razor. > How can I tell if spamassassin uses razor ? > I have nothing in my razor logs exept when starting spamd, I get this: > Sep 21 14:14:29.666323 check[50778]: [ 1] [bootup]

RE: [SAtalk] Razor 2.22- 2.36 Taint issue patch

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Daniel Quinlan wrote: > The patch looks more like Morse code than a unified diff (it's > quite corrupted). Use the one I posted earlier today. Heh...you're right. That patch was corrupt. Anyway, it patches fine now, but now I get an error on make

Re: [SAtalk] Razor 2.22- 2.36 Taint issue patch

No need to CC me; I'm subscribed to the list. Mike Loiterman wrote: > Kris Deugau wrote: > > The patch was created by someone else. I didn't apply it directly, > > as I wanted a patch to apply during a .rpm build, so I rebuilt it > > as a "whole-source-tree" patch. I've just pushed it out to >

Re: [SAtalk] Razor 2.22- 2.36 Taint issue patch

"Mike Loiterman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Is this the patch you posted: > > - - - --- Client/Core.pm~ 2002-11-25 19:07:38.0 +0100 > +++ Client/Core.pm2002-11-25 18:55:35.0 +0100 > @@ -216,8 +216,10 @@ > foreach $rr ($query->answer) { > my $pushe

RE: [SAtalk] Razor 2.22- 2.36 Taint issue patch

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Kris Deugau wrote: > Mike Loiterman wrote: >> I followed the instuructions below to patch Razor2's taint >> problem. The Config.pm patch worked perfectly, but the Core.pm >> patch failed at hunk 1. Is this an SA issue, or a Razor >> issue..(i.e. pat

Re: [SAtalk] Razor 2.22- 2.36 Taint issue patch

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > I posted my latest patches for razor 2.34 here a few days ago. I Is this the patch you posted: - - - --- Client/Core.pm~ 2002-11-25 19:07:38.0 +0100 +++ Client/Core.pm 2002-11-25 18:55:35.0 +0100 @@ -216,8 +216,10 @@

Re: [SAtalk] Razor 2.22- 2.36 Taint issue patch

> "ML" == Mike Loiterman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: ML> I followed the instuructions below to patch Razor2's taint problem. ML> The Config.pm patch worked perfectly, but the Core.pm patch failed at ML> hunk 1. Is this an SA issue, or a Razor issue..(i.e. patch created ML> by Razor folks or

Re: [SAtalk] Razor+Spamd problem

> On Wed, 6 Aug 2003, Kelson Vibber wrote: > >> >I found a strange thing. When I call razor via spamassassin >> >it works well, but when it's running via spamd it's does not work. But >> >anyway I see a traffic between my host and razor servers for every >> >message which is passed through spamd/ra

Re: [SAtalk] Razor+Spamd problem

On Thu, 7 Aug 2003, Simon Byrnand wrote: > >> >I found a strange thing. When I call razor via spamassassin > >> >it works well, but when it's running via spamd it's does not work. But > >> >anyway I see a traffic between my host and razor servers for every > >> >message which is passed through spa

Re: [SAtalk] Razor+Spamd problem

Eugene Filatov <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I found a strange thing. When I call razor via spamassassin it works well, but when it's running via spamd it's does not work. But anyway I see a traffic between my host and razor servers for every message which is passed through spamd/razor. It may have to

Re: [SAtalk] Razor+Spamd problem

On Wed, 6 Aug 2003, Kelson Vibber wrote: > >I found a strange thing. When I call razor via spamassassin > >it works well, but when it's running via spamd it's does not work. But > >anyway I see a traffic between my host and razor servers for every > >message which is passed through spamd/razor. >

RE: [SAtalk] Razor question

On Fri, 2003-07-25 at 18:02, Raul Dias wrote: > hi Kevin, > > Em Sex, 2003-07-25 Ã s 07:07, Kevin Buzzard escreveu: > > On 24 Jul 2003, Raul Dias wrote: > > > > > Something I found interesting was using Razor + Pyzor + Dcc. > > > Then I create meta rules that matchs: > > > Razor + Pyzor > > > Raz

Re: [SAtalk] Razor question

Kevin Buzzard writes: >We have already established in this thread that it is probably *not* >a good idea in general to say "if razor says it's spam with >probability > 90% then it's spam" because razor can make mistakes, >or perhaps be tricked into making mistakes. Indeed the _point_ of spamassass

RE: [SAtalk] Razor question

hi Kevin, Em Sex, 2003-07-25 às 07:07, Kevin Buzzard escreveu: > On 24 Jul 2003, Raul Dias wrote: > > > Something I found interesting was using Razor + Pyzor + Dcc. > > Then I create meta rules that matchs: > > Razor + Pyzor > > Razor + Dcc > > Pyzor + Dcc > > Razor + Pyzor + Dcc (this will also,

Re: [SAtalk] Razor question

Kevin Buzzard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: So it seems to me that the _key_ issue here is: are razor, pyzor, dcc making mistakes with the _same_ emails? Not from what I can see. I posted some stats from my own server two weeks ago in the "Razor2 vs DCC vs Pyzor" thread. I only compared Razor and

RE: [SAtalk] Razor question

On 24 Jul 2003, Raul Dias wrote: > Something I found interesting was using Razor + Pyzor + Dcc. > Then I create meta rules that matchs: > Razor + Pyzor > Razor + Dcc > Pyzor + Dcc > Razor + Pyzor + Dcc (this will also, of course, match all three before). This is definitely an interesting idea! Bu

RE: [SAtalk] Razor question

Great suggestions Raul, Thanks! --Larry > -Original Message- > From: Raul Dias > > Now that is an interesting dilema. Since I don't run Bayes > > I don't run into that situation. Your situation is like asking > > SA to score your experience and score someone else's experience. > > If

RE: [SAtalk] Razor question

-Original Message- From: Gilson, Larry Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 1:10 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [SAtalk] Razor question Great suggestions Raul, Thanks! --Larry > -Original Message- > From: Raul Dias > > Now that is an interesting dile

RE: [SAtalk] Razor question

e while list. if a spam is getting through and we're getting quite a number of the same one, i chuck in the black list. simple... -Original Message- From: Kevin Buzzard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 9:47 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SAtalk] Razo

Re: [SAtalk] Razor question

At 13:17 24/07/03 +0100, Kevin Buzzard wrote: give me any output at all, i.e. none of my ham emails *at all* are listed in razor or pyzor. I notice also that *almost all* of the spam that lands in my inbox, i.e. that spamassassin misses, triggers razor or pyzor, but that this wasn't enough. I am

RE: [SAtalk] Razor question

> > What really pissed me off the other day was that I got some > > spam which got a low bayes score (and hence -5) but a high razor > > score (and hence +2 or so) so I ended up getting it... > > Now that is an interesting dilema. Since I don't run Bayes I don't run into > that situation. Your

RE: [SAtalk] Razor question

Em Qui, 2003-07-24 às 10:55, Larry Gilson escreveu: > > -Original Message- > > From: Kevin Buzzard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > What really pissed me off the other day was that I got some > > spam which got a low bayes score (and hence -5) but a high razor > > score (and hence +2 or

Re: [SAtalk] Razor question

Thanks a lot to the many users of this list that have suggested, both via the list and via personal email, various pro's and con's about my suggestions. Ultimately the conclusions I drew were unsurprising: (1) They're the default settings because they seem to work best for people in general.

RE: [SAtalk] Razor question

> -Original Message- > From: Kevin Buzzard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > What really pissed me off the other day was that I got some > spam which got a low bayes score (and hence -5) but a high razor > score (and hence +2 or so) so I ended up getting it... Now that is an interesting di

Re: [SAtalk] Razor question

On 7/24/03 9:17 PM, "Kevin Buzzard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: (B (B>>> I know I can change the point scoring system in spamassassin, but I don't (B>>> get the logic of the default set-up here: if an email is listed in Razor2, (B>>> then how can it not be spam? (B>> (B>> It could be a newsle

Re: [SAtalk] Razor question

> > I know I can change the point scoring system in spamassassin, but I don't > > get the logic of the default set-up here: if an email is listed in Razor2, > > then how can it not be spam? > > It could be a newsletter or another legit mail, that has been > erraneously reported to Razor. This is

Re: [SAtalk] Razor question

On Thu, Jul 24, 2003 at 11:06:36AM +0100, Kevin Buzzard wrote: > Perhaps a razor mailing list would be the place to ask this, but I am sure > people here will know: > > I don't understand the logic behind: > > RAZOR2_CHECK (0.9 points) Listed in Razor2, see > http://razor.sf.net/ > > I

Re: [SAtalk] Razor question

On Thu, Jul 24, 2003 at 11:06:36AM +0100, Kevin Buzzard wrote: > I know I can change the point scoring system in spamassassin, but I don't > get the logic of the default set-up here: if an email is listed in Razor2, > then how can it not be spam? It could be a newsletter or another legit mail, th

Re: [SAtalk] Razor 2.34 / SA 2.55 bug?

At 04:10 PM 7/23/03, Theo Van Dinter wrote: >Re [SAtalk] Razor 2.34 SA 21..ems Arghh -- brain dead mail client. Thanks for the M::SA::DNS... tip. I found out something even more interesting while I was doing some testing today. If I su - spamd spamassassin -tD < sample-spam.txt I fin

Re: [SAtalk] Razor 2.34 / SA 2.55 bug?

On Wed, Jul 23, 2003 at 03:31:12PM -0500, Rich Duzenbury wrote: > OK, I'll settle for a bit of documentation on how SA calls razor. Anyone > know which module calls razor, or have any details about how it's done? I > don't mind fooling with it a bit... I actually know quite a bit about it. To

Re: [SAtalk] Razor 2.34 / SA 2.55 bug?

OK, I'll settle for a bit of documentation on how SA calls razor. Anyone know which module calls razor, or have any details about how it's done? I don't mind fooling with it a bit... Thanks. Regards, Rich At 10:06 PM 7/22/03, Rich Duzenbury wrote: Hi all, I've been using SA for some time wit

RE: [SAtalk] Razor working?

i use MailScanner so may be different, but i believe if you installed under root you'll find a /root/.razor/ directory which is where my log file lives.. doesn't say much but it tells me that it's working (as it checks each message). what i do what to know is how one logs all spamassassin details

Re: [SAtalk] Razor results

Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: debug: Found Razor2 part: part=0 engine=4 ct=0 cf=0 debug: leaving helper-app run mode debug: Razor2 results: spam? 0 highest cf score: 0 debug: Razor2 is available debug: Using results from Razor v2.22 You would think it would find a spam, now and then. SA says Raz

Re: [SAtalk] Razor results

On Wed, Jul 09, 2003 at 03:56:11PM +, Mark wrote: > debug: Found Razor2 part: part=0 engine=4 ct=0 cf=0 > debug: leaving helper-app run mode > debug: Razor2 results: spam? 0 highest cf score: 0 > debug: Razor2 is available > debug: Using results from Razor v2.22 > > You would think it would f

Re: [SAtalk] Razor checks...

- Original Message - From: "Matt Kettler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Cassandra Lynette Brockett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2003 9:18 PM Subject: Re: [SAtalk] Razor checks... > At 03:21 PM 6/21/03 -0700, Cass

Re: [SAtalk] Razor checks...

At 03:21 PM 6/21/03 -0700, Cassandra Lynette Brockett wrote: I'm just wondering if anyone knows how the razor checks work. The reason I ask is that I have spamassassin running twice on all messages - once in a milter and once from the glocal procmail file. I have started to notice messages that h

Re: [SAtalk] Razor help

On Sat, Jun 21, 2003 at 04:44:17PM +0100, Mark wrote: > On Sat, Jun 21, 2003 at 11:57:19AM +0100, Jim Ford wrote: > > > nextserver: discover0: No Razor Discovery servers available at this time > Hi! > I followed the INSTALL file religiously and have previously had no > problems with other installs

Re: [SAtalk] Razor help

On Sat, Jun 21, 2003 at 11:57:19AM +0100, Jim Ford wrote: > > nextserver: discover0: No Razor Discovery servers available at this time > > Did you register Razor with razor-admin? > > Razor installed fine on my Slack 9 system and SA 2.55. Hi! I followed the INSTALL file religiously and have prev

Re: [SAtalk] Razor help

On Fri, Jun 20, 2003 at 11:03:23PM +0100, Mark Berry wrote: > Hi! > I'm just installing Spamassassin and Razor on a Linux box. I'm trying to > install Razor first but I keep getting the error: > > nextserver: discover0: No Razor Discovery servers available at this time Did you register Razor with

Re: [SAtalk] Razor Default Score

At 05:56 PM 6/17/03 -0500, Link, Pete wrote: If I understand the process correctly, Spamassassin fires up the Razor checks and assigns a score. My question: How does one increase the default score? edit your local.cf or user_prefs and add: score RAZOR2_CHECK 4.0 or whatever other

Re: [SAtalk] Razor/DCC Effectiveness?

At 02:55 PM 6/2/2003 +0100, Paul Hutchings wrote: Am I missing out significantly by not using Razor or DCC? Really, you're not likely missing out on a whole lot. Razor is a very nice, very accurate tool, but it also consumes considerably more time than the regex based rules of SA. I tend to view

Re: [SAtalk] Razor/DCC Effectiveness?

On Mon, Jun 02, 2003 at 02:55:01PM +0100, Paul Hutchings wrote: > Am I missing out significantly by not using Razor or DCC? > > I've looked on the respective sites, and I'm still not overly clear how well > they work, and what sort of bandwidth penalty they may impose (the sizes > vary, but we re

Re: [SAtalk] razor 2 support

On Fri, May 30, 2003 at 10:22:00AM -0400, Adam Denenberg wrote: > Does spamassassin check the mail against Razor's Database or just > optionally contribute the mail it finds as SPAM to cloudmarks DB? yes, it can check the mail if you have the razor2 modules installed. -- Randomly Generated Tagli

Re: [SAtalk] Razor installation

Theo Van Dinter wrote: On Tue, May 27, 2003 at 04:17:11PM -0700, Catherine Pinatiello wrote: I'm trying to install Razor. Razor requires Net::DNS and whenever I try to install from CPAN I get a rash of errors in the make test, like the ones below: Net::DNS probably has other requirements like

Re: [SAtalk] Razor installation

Theo Van Dinter wrote: On Tue, May 27, 2003 at 04:17:11PM -0700, Catherine Pinatiello wrote: I'm trying to install Razor. Razor requires Net::DNS and whenever I try to install from CPAN I get a rash of errors in the make test, like the ones below: Net::DNS probably has other requirements

Re: [SAtalk] Razor installation

On Tue, May 27, 2003 at 04:17:11PM -0700, Catherine Pinatiello wrote: > I'm trying to install Razor. Razor requires Net::DNS and whenever I try > to install from CPAN I get a rash of errors in the make test, like the > ones below: Net::DNS probably has other requirements like Test::Simple or Tes

Re: [SAtalk] Razor home, conf, identity issue on 2.50-cvs

On Fri, Feb 14, 2003 at 11:41:21AM -0600, Dallas Engelken wrote: > razorhome /etc/razor > logfile /dev/null > debuglevel 5 > turn_off_discovery 0 > ignorelist 1 > min_cf 60 > report_headers 1 > use_engines

Re: [SAtalk] Razor weirdness

On Fri, Jan 10, 2003 at 10:10:43AM -0700, Shane Hickey wrote: > Is there a way to tell spamassassin not to use Razor1 in the local.cf > file? score RAZOR_CHECK 0 But you probably want to go remove the modules and scripts when you get the chance... -- Randomly Generated Tagline: "Engineering d

RE: [Razor-users] RE: [SAtalk] Razor down - Works for me

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday, January 09, 2003 3:29 PM Theo Van Dinter wrote: > On Thu, Jan 09, 2003 at 03:10:35PM -0600, Mike Loiterman wrote: >> [15:09:21 root@fat_man: /home/mike/Mail-SpamAssassin-2.43]# >> razor-discover -d debug: Raz

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