----- Original Message -----
From: "Matt Kettler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Cassandra Lynette Brockett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>;
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2003 9:18 PM
Subject: Re: [SAtalk] Razor checks...
> At 03:21 PM 6/21/03 -0700, Cassandra Lynette Brockett wrote:
> >I'm just wondering if anyone knows how the razor checks work.
> >
> >The reason I ask is that I have spamassassin running twice on all
messages -
> >once in a milter and once from the glocal procmail file. I have started
to
> >notice messages that hit on the razor2 check when run from procmail, but
not
> >when run from the milter... I'm trying to move away from having the
second
> >run, so I am a little interested to see what the reason is that the
message
> >doesn't flag when run from the milter (and hence, helping the author
update
> >the milter to fix this error).
>
> Running messages through SA twice is an invalid configuration in and of
> itself. Don't "move away" from two checks, treat it as a misconfiguration
> and fix it.
Sure, why not, and while we are at it - why not fix a lot of other
stupidities about system configurations that are neccessary due to programs
not actually being able to handle every situation a potential user can do...
Not likely - I need the current configuration setup at the moment - I will
consider it the ONLY valid method to run spamassassin at my site at present
due to the fact that I need to use two seperate programs maintained by two
seperate groups of people to handle one task. Until spamassassin has it's
own milter setup - then it is likely that there will be a number of people
who decide to run spamassassin twice.
Don't treat the only valid way to do the tasks I need performed as being a
misconfiguration because you have not thought of the incompatibilities
between the programs I need to run due to the simple fact that spamassassin
does not do everything in the way I need it to handle it.
Not every configuration done by users is a misconfiguration - sometimes it
is the only way to do things with the current software versions...
> The first run will modify the message if it is tagged as spam. Once
> modified by SA the message is a fundamentally different message than it
was
> before and will no longer match razor checks. It also won't match the RBL
> checks anymore, as new message has different headers too.
Actually - you are incorrect. The first pass does not actually modify the
message - due to how the milter I run works. My RBL checks match on both -
those are detailed from the received lines, which all are handled correctly.
The Razor checks match on the SECOND run, not the first - which tells me
that Razor is looking for some details in the second message which are added
by sendmail, but not added by the milter when it also adds the header
information that is used by spamassassin to determine the local user and
other details.
Regards,
Cassandra
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