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/mail/Spam/Filtered mailbox, I would rather
a) run sa-learn on that message
b) dump that message into /dev/null.
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t installed
on their interactive machine, sa-learn isn't there.
My question - do we need to install SA on each Linux machine, or is
there some minor bits (the sa-learn module, DB_File, etc) we can simply
copy over?
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community").
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that
address is in replies to people that contacted me first. I do not send
out email to more than 1 person at a time using that address (for any
reason).
Ergo - .biz addresses are no more defacto spam than a .com address.
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ayes a corpus of Ham.
Getting them to do that is somewhat more problematic...
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ry. I just couldn't help myself.
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no
reason to add the legaleeze verbage.
If it's an opt-out email list, it's spam. Their adding the verbage will
make it easier for SA to identify it.
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property ala illegal drug offenses.
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ld have guessed exactly the
opposite...
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rted getting 3-4 / day.
Fwiw, I use Trillian Pro 2 for my IM client...
(although I may investigate GAIM).
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Scott Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ahh, I bet ya'll are NotePad experts as well!
UltraEdit. It converts the "unix to Dos" format automatically.
;-)
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Mike D <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Does anyone know how to config spamassassin to delete messages with a
> score above a certain threshold?
Surely the answer is to post the same question 3 times.
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> d) how this question is better answered by using the mailing list
> archive. :)
only if people would check the archives...
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from AOL (by
From)
* 3.3 FORGED_AOL_HTML AOL can't send HTML message only
* 1.1 MIME_HTML_ONLY_MULTI Multipart message only has text/html MIME
parts
* 0.1 MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME Message looks like Outlook, but isn't
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pretty nice.
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x27;m too embarrassed to tell people I use pico...
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hat Madano jersey?
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't use the publicly-available corpus. You
would just want to go through and remove those spam messages that you DO
want so that Bayes doesn't see them.
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grandma. Of the 35 spam messages I got today, 5
were porn type (selling enlargment stuff). I'm sure that if I visited a
few select websites and gave them my email address, I could
significantly up that number.
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traffic through sa-learn as well?". After all, it is legit
email you get, right?
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is sent to
/dev/null/ and what is sent to a mailbox for perusal for false positives
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obert's decree remains correct.
Getting back to Terry's question, yes, using a Milter type product will
do what he is looking for. As will a simple procmail recipe.
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other week. Those that really are spam, I manually move from Probable
to Spam. I then run
sa-learn --mbox --spam mail/Spam
then nuke the contents.
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ose
your Bayes db pretty quickly.
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ot mailbomb - just alot of well written
replies to the article)
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mp;M back when he was an undergrad!.
(if it's the same Kevin Railsback)
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er group support be utilized. Doing
otherwise would be like buying a commercial package, but throwing away
the manual *and* tech support number.
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t; at least, to point up a need to make a point "in favour" of the
> commercial solutions.
Perhaps the alternative would be to write the editors of InfoWorld about
their evaluator.
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mail with a swear (as above) and
> it gets blocked. how can I get that mail to them?
procmail
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work?
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;BAYES_99*[score: 1.]" and send that to /dev/null
as well, right? Well, yeah, I could do that. But it:
a) seems harder
b) misses (1) above
c) allows a definitive Bayes scores to be used in SAlearn
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imilar to tampering with postal mail.
The author is a complete and utter moron.
Too bad they didn't use their real name (typical)
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seeking recommendation on
> what to do with these messages; if I should allow these messages to
> be learned from, will there be any negative impact?
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dmail (or exim,
or...) users wouldn't be able to use it?
(sorry, I'm just not familiar with Posix)
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re it can be autolearnt.
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ve just answered a question I had on another group!
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o have a mail server without
procmail.
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e how many spams I get
addresses to the messed up address or (harder to measure) if my amount
of spam goes down.
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I have now and start fresh.
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x27;ll like gentoo then. ;-)
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cognize the fact that the user has used
"HOTMAIL.COM" in uppercase, while the X-Originating-Email tag is using
lowercase.
Is this a bug?
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Is this a bug?
(seems like one to me)
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Done. bug report # is 2561.
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Malte S. Stretz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wednesday 01 October 2003 17:36 CET Chris Barnes wrote:
>> [...]
>> What am I missing?
>
> TFM, the FAQ and sa-learn --import.
Ok, good suggestion. Did that and it told me:
import failed, original files saved with &qu
the faint of
heart...
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nd it seemed to work ok
(meaning, it didn't give me any errors).
What am I missing?
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DB_File? (RH 8)
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RLMX_TAG_80 2
header LOCAL_PERLMX_TAG_70 /X-PerlMX=~ /\b Probability=7[0-9]\%/
score LOCAL_PERLMX_TAG_70 1
Ok, so what's wrong with my rule?
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decided against
doing it (it said performance could take a serious hit). Instead, I
just put my modification into the system wide config.
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shows:
0.000 0 1658 0 non-token data: nspam
0.000 0495 0 non-token data: nham
0.000 0 91398 0 non-token data: ntokens
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(I didn't install the bayes_DB the first time).
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rephrase), is DB_File installed as a matter of routine
(assuming one does not opt to use something else such as MySQL or
another database engine)?
Fwiw, I am currently running 2.60 pre-rc1.
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mall number of packages, it
should be relatively easy to figure out what each is using.
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nts, as opposed to spectacular for out
> of the box SpamAssassin.
Ah, ok. Thanks.
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e Alan recommended turned out to
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spam, but see no disadvantages (and
some possible advatages) to feeding it all the ham.
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]> wrote:
Off the top of my head as well, wouldn't something like this be more
complete?
> 0f
# First, remove all spamassassin markup
> /usr/bin/spamassassin -d
#Then, run through local spamassassin:
> 0fw
> /usr/bin/spamassassin -P
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ntly looks like:
DROPPRIVS=yes
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after checking my inbox to make sure there are no false negatives, but
before actually reading/deleting my new email.
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going to lead to innacurate results.
I understand not feeding it other people's ham, but I don't see a
problem using other people's spam - assuming it's "normal looking spam".
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der (which since I use the UW Imap server,
keeps the messages in the mbox format). I simply feed SA-learn the
folder name and it churns away on it.
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Gareth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I want to set-up a cron job to process these daily using sa-learn.
I was thinking about doing this as well, but how do you get sa-learn to
run "for each user"?
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Q1: is this smart/dumb?
- will sa-learn get confused if it sees (for example) "To: Chris
Barnes" when running for the user "Shelly" in the everyonespam?
Q2: how can I create the cronjob to
I just blowing smoke?
> Thanks in advance.
If it matters, consider this to be a "yeah, me too" request.
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> actually, it's only 200 of each.
Actually, I just checked some of my headers - apparently Bayes is
kicking in now. Sorry for the mis-information.
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ey didn't do something with it - like send it to their
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p the memory to at least 256mb (if not 512). But
then, memory for that type box is realatively cheap.
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e in where please?
New rules are genereally put into the /etc/mail/spamassassin/local.cf
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erlMX test gives it a 90% or higher, have SA add 3 to the
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00 of each.
1000 of each seems like overkill (at least for me).
Is there a setting I can use to get SA to use a lessor number?
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Now if you want to look for a case where the From: line is YOUR email
(something spammers mostly do), you'll probably need a custom rule for
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e default install will
include SA 2.53.
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rs giving them a starting point for helping their users.
And helping the end users is really ALL of our jobs (spoken like the
10-year helpdesk veteran I am).
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> Hmm. How do I "configure my system to run spamd in the background" and
> where does the mailer "invoke spamassassin" that I would change to
> spamc? (see, I told you I didn't have alot of experiance)
A quick not
un spamd in the background" and
where does the mailer "invoke spamassassin" that I would change to
spamc? (see, I told you I didn't have alot of experiance)
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blackbox.
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Is anyone running a combination of exim/courier-imap/amavis/spamassassin
on a RedHat (9) box? Exim especially doesn't seem to be available on
RH.
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il I found out that
the asterisk is a wildcard to procmail.
So will this work?
# Check to see if SpamAssassin marked it
# if so, put it into a folder named "Filtered"
> 0
* !Subject:**SPAM**
$HOME/mail/Filtered
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or the beloved hot dog condiment.
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ement.
Let me guess, your HR person's name is Catbert...
Q: how are they seeing this to begin with - it's in the header, not the
body. Are they using some oddball email program that is showing them
the headers?
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tions and then beating them, thus
> ensuring your excellent employee review & raise. ;)
Of course, Belanna Torres (ST:Voyager) was considered great too, and her
comment was "if I say 3 hours, it will take 3 hours. I don't pad my
estimates". Personally, I liked her better.
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st because one exists). I don't
know how fast SA changes, but I would guess this is a couple hours every
6-12 months
Personally, I think he's blowing smoke into dark places.
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" clock.
So unless you didn't apply any security patches (gasp), I'm sure your 2
NT servers were not continuously running from 96 to 99.
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[EMA
bad, bad thing
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Computer Systems Manager ph: 979-845-7801
Department of Physics
last 4 of their student ID
#). If someone else came around with the same initials and last 4,
their address was cnb123a.
All I'm saying is that you might be elminating alot of legit
addresses...
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ming & outgoing email)?
2) Is anyone using both Rav & SA now (so I can pick your brain)?
3) (more for the developers)
Has there been any thought about merging SA with a package like Rav?
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I put the domain name above in case the developers care to contact them
about how they are misusing the product...
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client... ala Outlook Express,
Eudora, and Pegasus.
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Kai Schaetzl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Chris Barnes wrote on Fri, 6 Jun 2003 12:03:20 -0500:
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>> I am more concerned about the false positives. Looking at the
>> headers of those messages that are legit, it seems that the biggest
>> score comes from the BAYES tes
mail) they have a MUCH higher chance of being tagged as a
spammer.
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