Stus-List Window replacement

2020-02-10 Thread James Hesketh via CnC-List
I've had some recent computer issues and lost most of my bookmarks. I'd saved info on the 3M tape and specific calk recommended for window replacement; that got lost. Could someone please re-post the 3M products and any how-to links available? TIA Jim Hesketh Whisper -- '78 C&C 26 Miami, FL

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2017-12-17 Thread Munden & Diane Manuel via CnC-List
a CnC-List Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 9:23:11 AM To: Munden & Diane Manuel via CnC-List Cc: robert Subject: Stus-List Window replacement Hi Munden: Where do you sail from? I am guessing it is the Armdale Yacht Club. I replaced all my cabin windows about 8 years ago..had to...

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2017-12-17 Thread Alex DeLaPena via CnC-List
I have a 1972 C&C 30. It has aluminum frames for the windows.  Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone On Sunday, December 17, 2017, 2:39 PM, M Bodnar via CnC-List wrote: My CS 30 is the same - no inset for the windows, just flat cabin sides.  Windows are mounted with the VHB tape which leav

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2017-12-17 Thread M Bodnar via CnC-List
My CS 30 is the same - no inset for the windows, just flat cabin sides.  Windows are mounted with the VHB tape which leaves space for the sealant. Mark - On 2017-12-15 2:55 PM, Gary Russell via CnC-List wrote:

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2017-12-15 Thread bwhitmore via CnC-List
teve Thomas Subject: Re: Stus-List Window replacement My C&C27 has windows that are glued and screwed directly on the surface of the cabin. There is no cavity, and no visible sealant, and yes they leak. I suspect that they were glued down with Plexus or something similar, but I wish that whoeve

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2017-12-15 Thread svpegasus38 via CnC-List
:35 (GMT-08:00) To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Steve Thomas Subject: Re: Stus-List Window replacement My C&C27 has windows that are glued and screwed directly on the surface of the cabin. There is no cavity, and no visible sealant, and yes they leak. I suspect that they were glued down

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2017-12-15 Thread Gary Russell via CnC-List
Steve, My 37+ has, pretty much, a surface installation, but with the 0.090" VHB tap and a 3/16" bevel there is plenty of room for the sealant. My windows are now 2 years old and no signs of leaking or problems of any kind. They also really look attractive! See pictures of the project here <

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2017-12-15 Thread Steve Thomas via CnC-List
My C&C27 has windows that are glued and screwed directly on the surface of the cabin. There is no cavity, and no visible sealant, and yes they leak. I suspect that they were glued down with Plexus or something similar, but I wish that whoever did it had left out the screws. Anyway, Has anyone a

Stus-List Window replacement

2017-12-15 Thread robert via CnC-List
Hi Munden: Where do you sail from?   I am guessing it is the Armdale Yacht Club. I replaced all my cabin windows about 8 years ago..had tothey all were leaking and there was no way to keep the water out other than replace the windowsI tried everything else and it always eventually

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2017-12-14 Thread M Bodnar via CnC-List
] On Behalf Of svpegasus38 via CnC-List Sent: December-14-17 3:41 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: svpegasus38 Subject: Re: Stus-List Window replacement   I figure 1 tube per side.

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2017-12-14 Thread Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List
My mistake on the number. Good catch. From: Gary Russell via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 3:55 PM To: C&C List Cc: Gary Russell Subject: Re: Stus-List Window replacement Note: I used VHB 4991 (0.090"), not 4941. Gary ~~~_/)~~ On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 a

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2017-12-14 Thread Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List
, December 14, 2017 3:49 PM To: C&C List Cc: Gary Russell Subject: Re: Stus-List Window replacement The problem with VHB 5952 is that it's only available in 0.045" thickness which is too thin for this application IMO. I prefer VHB 4991 at 0.090". VHB 5952 is not thick enou

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2017-12-14 Thread Frederick G Street via CnC-List
I looked at the properties of the two types of VHB tape mentioned, and also decided the 4991 was the best fit. The added thickness allows for more 795 to get behind the acrylic; and also shows for greater differences in the expansion of the acrylic vs. the fiberglass as Doug mentioned. So far,

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2017-12-14 Thread svpegasus38 via CnC-List
Gary Russell Subject: Re: Stus-List Window replacement Note:  I used VHB 4991 (0.090"), not 4941.Gary ~~~_/)~~ On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 1:51 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List wrote: This might be why 3M recommends the 5952: Creates a permanent seal against water, moisture and more by offeri

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2017-12-14 Thread Gary Russell via CnC-List
Note: I used VHB 4991 (0.090"), not 4941. Gary ~~~_/)~~ On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 1:51 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > This might be why 3M recommends the 5952: > > >- Creates a permanent seal against water, moisture and more by >offering better gap f

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2017-12-14 Thread Gary Russell via CnC-List
series for this > application. For what it’s worth. > > *From:* bushmark4--- via CnC-List > *Sent:* Thursday, December 14, 2017 12:16 PM > *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com > *Cc:* bushma...@aol.com > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Window replacement > > OK I really appreciate all of th

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2017-12-14 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
half Of > *svpegasus38 > via CnC-List > *Sent:* December-14-17 3:41 PM > *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com > *Cc:* svpegasus38 > > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Window replacement > > > > I figure 1 tube per side. All depends on gap and application technique. > > > &

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2017-12-14 Thread Rod Stright via CnC-List
@cnc-list.com Cc: svpegasus38 Subject: Re: Stus-List Window replacement I figure 1 tube per side. All depends on gap and application technique. Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device Doug Mountjoy POYC Rebecca Leah Lf39 Original message From: "Matthew L. Wolfor

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2017-12-14 Thread svpegasus38 via CnC-List
ist.com Cc: "Matthew L. Wolford" Subject: Re: Stus-List Window replacement Last question:  will one tube of caulking do four windows?   From: Dennis C. via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 1:51 PM To: CnClist Cc: Dennis C. Subject: Re: Stus-List Window replacement  

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2017-12-14 Thread Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List
Last question: will one tube of caulking do four windows? From: Dennis C. via CnC-List Sent: Thursday, December 14, 2017 1:51 PM To: CnClist Cc: Dennis C. Subject: Re: Stus-List Window replacement This might be why 3M recommends the 5952: a.. Creates a permanent seal against water

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2017-12-14 Thread Rod Stright via CnC-List
r, Mile 696; On the hard for Winter > > > Richard N. Bush > 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine > Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 > 502-584-7255 > > > -Original Message- > From: Gary Russell via CnC-List > To: C&C List > Cc: Gary Russe

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2017-12-14 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
This might be why 3M recommends the 5952: - Creates a permanent seal against water, moisture and more by offering better gap filling capabilities That's in the 5952 description on the 3M site. It does not appear in the 4941 description. Could be the 5952 is more closed cell foam than the

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2017-12-14 Thread Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List
: Thursday, December 14, 2017 12:16 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: bushma...@aol.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Window replacement OK I really appreciate all of these comments about window replacement, (mostly because I have one coming up this spring myself); I have been trying to save them all

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2017-12-14 Thread Fred Hazzard via CnC-List
rom: "Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List" >> Date: 12/14/17 03:03 (GMT-08:00) >> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com >> Cc: "Matthew L. Wolford" >> Subject: Re: Stus-List Window replacement >> >> Thanks. 3/16 to 1/4 inch total (adding half that amount t

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2017-12-14 Thread bushmark4--- via CnC-List
Nine Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 502-584-7255 -Original Message- From: Gary Russell via CnC-List To: C&C List Cc: Gary Russell Sent: Thu, Dec 14, 2017 11:53 am Subject: Re: Stus-List Window replacement Good point! I also put a 45 degree bevel on the back side of the Plex

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2017-12-14 Thread Gary Russell via CnC-List
hew L. Wolford via CnC-List" > Date: 12/14/17 03:03 (GMT-08:00) > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Cc: "Matthew L. Wolford" > Subject: Re: Stus-List Window replacement > > Thanks. 3/16 to 1/4 inch *total* (adding half that amount top and > bottom, and side

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2017-12-14 Thread svpegasus38 via CnC-List
: "Matthew L. Wolford" Subject: Re: Stus-List Window replacement Thanks.  3/16 to 1/4 inch total (adding half that amount top and bottom, and side to side) or that much space all around (which is clearly more than my existing windows)?   From: svpegasus38 via CnC-List Sent: We

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2017-12-14 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
nse (as > opposed to one that is close in color to the gel coat). > > Josh: Will do. > > *From:* Josh Muckley via CnC-List > *Sent:* Thursday, December 14, 2017 8:31 AM > *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com > *Cc:* Josh Muckley > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Window replacement

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2017-12-14 Thread Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List
i? From: Gary Russell via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 9:38 PM To: C&C List Cc: Gary Russell Subject: Re: Stus-List Window replacement Matthew, Remember that the VHB tape is only the adhesive, not the sealant. You need to leave room for the Dow

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2017-12-14 Thread Gary Russell via CnC-List
e plexi and the boat, but also work behind the plexi a bit. Is >>> the pressure of a caulking gun sufficient to get this done? On my boat, >>> the plexi is tightly fitted into the cavity. Perhaps I should leave a >>> little more room with the replacement plexi? >>

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2017-12-14 Thread Josh Muckley via CnC-List
this done? On my boat, >> the plexi is tightly fitted into the cavity. Perhaps I should leave a >> little more room with the replacement plexi? >> >> *From:* Gary Russell via CnC-List >> *Sent:* Wednesday, December 13, 2017 9:38 PM >> *To:* C&C List >> *Cc:

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2017-12-14 Thread Gary Russell via CnC-List
ry Russell via CnC-List > *Sent:* Wednesday, December 13, 2017 9:38 PM > *To:* C&C List > *Cc:* Gary Russell > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Window replacement > > Matthew, > Remember that the VHB tape is only the adhesive, not the sealant. > You need to leave room

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2017-12-14 Thread Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List
Subject: Re: Stus-List Window replacement When I did the windows on both of my boats I tried for 3/16 to 1/4 inch gap around the plexiglass. It will expand quite a bit when warmed by the sun. I also tried to get everything sealed before the sun hit the plexiglass because of the expansion. On my

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2017-12-13 Thread svpegasus38 via CnC-List
9:40 (GMT-08:00) To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: "Matthew L. Wolford" Subject: Re: Stus-List Window replacement Thanks, Gary.   So in your view the sealant needs to not only fill the seam between the edge of the plexi and the boat, but also work behind the plexi a bit.  Is the pr

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2017-12-13 Thread Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List
should leave a little more room with the replacement plexi? From: Gary Russell via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 9:38 PM To: C&C List Cc: Gary Russell Subject: Re: Stus-List Window replacement Matthew, Remember that the VHB tape is only the adhesive, not the sealant. You

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2017-12-13 Thread Gary Russell via CnC-List
Matthew, Remember that the VHB tape is only the adhesive, not the sealant. You need to leave room for the Dow Corning 795 black silicone sealant. To me, 1/4" for the sealant seems about right. That leaves room for about 1/2" of VHB tape. Gary S/V Kaylarah '90 C&C 37+ East Greenwich, RI, US

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2017-12-13 Thread Munden & Diane Manuel via CnC-List
t on behalf of Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List Sent: Wednesday, December 13, 2017 9:28:04 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Matthew L. Wolford Subject: Stus-List Window replacement Listers: I know this topic has been covered ad nauseum, but I have two questions about window replacement: 1) It

Stus-List Window replacement

2017-12-13 Thread Matthew L. Wolford via CnC-List
Listers: I know this topic has been covered ad nauseum, but I have two questions about window replacement: 1) It appears that most of you who have done the VHB tape method like 3M 4941 instead of 5952. However, when I contacted 3M and explained what I was using it for, 5952 was recom

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2017-05-23 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
I did a small boat that had through bolts. Fortunately the interior was rolled gelcoat. After filling and smoothing I rolled gelcoat to match. Looked good. I have filled a few holes in Touché's headliner. I beveled them with a cone shaped grinding stone in a drill then filled them with gelpaste

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2017-05-23 Thread Patrick Davin via CnC-List
[Resend due to embedded photo (not mine) that caused list to auto-block due to size]: Oh, so your exterior screws were just wood screws screwed into the cabin trunk? Is there coring there? (I'm hoping not). I'm skeptical of Don Casey's theory that bolts or screws were used in surface mount instal

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2017-05-23 Thread svpegasus38 via CnC-List
0) To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Paul E Subject: Re: Stus-List Window replacement Patrick, I didn’t have any thru-bolts, just exterior screws with finish washers.  I did fill in all screw holes and imperfections with epoxy/thickened epoxy.   - Paul E.1981 C&C 38 Landfall  S/V Johanna Rose

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2017-05-23 Thread Paul E via CnC-List
3 May 2017 08:22:54 -0700 > From: Patrick Davin > To: "cnc-list@cnc-list.com" , PME > > Subject: Re: Stus-List Window replacement > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Paul, > > What did you do about the

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2017-05-23 Thread Patrick Davin via CnC-List
Paul, What did you do about the thru-bolt holes on the inside of your cabin? Did you fill or cover those in any way? Are the leftover holes really ugly? I had *thought* that the thru-bolted windows on my LF38 were a feature / desirable attribute (for offshore strength) and that C&C had just don

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2017-05-22 Thread Dr. Mark Bodnar via CnC-List
Got new fixed ports in yesterday. Went fairly smoothly - Paul, I used your advice to hinge the ports up on a few pieces of masking tape - worked perfectly.  The whole process was much easier than getting the old ports off and repairing the mess. In ret

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2017-05-04 Thread Dr. Mark Bodnar via CnC-List
Update on the process. All 4 windows are out - gel coat damage is not too bad. Today before work I chiseled the plexus off 2 window frames. 1 inch at a time - a slow process for sure! Canadian Sailcraft covered a lot of extra cabin side with plexiglass to make for a sleek window silhouette e

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2017-04-25 Thread Nate Flesness via CnC-List
Smoke acrylic may well hide the rough Plexus glue line. That would be nice. Bronze #2404 3/8" cast acrylic, which is what I was told to use to replace the original ports, does NOT hide it. Wish I'd known that... kinda ugly and hard to fix now. Nate Sarah Jean 1980 30-1 On Tue, Apr 25, 2017 at 12

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2017-04-25 Thread Dreuge via CnC-List
Hi Mark, I installed new ports via VHB tape and Dow 795 using Krylon Fusion to make a bonding mask. The link to my write up is below. As already mentioned, the mask provides a nice finished edge hiding the underlying tape and sealant. I don’t recall the source, but I have read that the Kry

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2017-04-25 Thread Gary Russell via CnC-List
Mark, I promise you the gelcoat will not be visible. See below. https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwQRSP2fYIFmMy1ybWVuQ2V6bUE/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwQRSP2fYIFmWHZCaVRGREIyZ0E/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwQRSP2fYIFmRzdIM1ZfQ25jTDQ/view?usp=sh

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2017-04-24 Thread Alan Liles via CnC-List
I used a sharp chisel to shave the plexus off the gelcoat. The old glue was still flexible enough that sanding didn't work well at all. It was a long process as there was a lot of glueline to be cleaned. Quite a lot of gelcoat came away with the plexi, which I filled and sanded flat. My plexi was s

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2017-04-24 Thread Dr. Mark Bodnar via CnC-List
Thanks for the info - I was hoping I could get away with a rough repair. As for the paint - I've read (elsewhere I guess) that it's a good idea to rough fit the window, trace from the inside where the opening is, then strip away the paper cover for the section of window that will be against the

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2017-04-24 Thread Gary Russell via CnC-List
Hi Mark, If you are going to use a smoke colored acrylic, you don't need to disguise the gelcoat damage with paint or anything else. The darker acrylic will hide the damage completely. I just faired the damaged gelcoat with and epoxy based fairing compound and sanded it flat. I applied the

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2017-04-24 Thread BillBinaList via CnC-List
Not to mention what the solvents in the paint will do to plastic. =-O Bill Bina On 4/24/2017 5:16 PM, mike amirault via CnC-List wrote: You’re going to spray black paint on the plexi where it contacts the hull? Isn’t that going to seriously weaken the bond between the VHB tape and the hull?

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2017-04-24 Thread mike amirault via CnC-List
You’re going to spray black paint on the plexi where it contacts the hull? Isn’t that going to seriously weaken the bond between the VHB tape and the hull?___ This list is supported by the generous donations of our members. If you wish to make a contr

Stus-List Window replacement

2017-04-24 Thread Dr. Mark Bodnar via CnC-List
Got my sheet of plexiglass for my window replacement. This weekend I started by removing 2 of the old surface mounted windows to use a templates. I used a small paint scraper/putty knife and a hammer to split the bond between the plexi and the boat. It wasn't painless - but worked fairly we

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2016-03-04 Thread Bill Coleman via CnC-List
list@cnc-list.com Cc: Rick Brass Subject: Re: Stus-List Window Replacement Charlie; There is a solvent that will loosen the bond of 5200. IIRC it came out about 2 or 3 years ago. Probably a great demand among folks who have used 5200 for a permanent seal on something that should have not

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2016-03-03 Thread Rick Brass via CnC-List
From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Charlie Nelson via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, March 01, 2016 11:42 AM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: cenel...@aol.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Window Replacement I heard from my yard manager yesterday that there is now a new chemical s

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2016-03-01 Thread Dave via CnC-List
2016 17:08:34 - (UTC) Subject: Re: Stus-List Window Replacement Dave — I got my old fixed windows (redone by the previous owner with 1/4” acrylic and Plexus adhesive) out last weekend. I tried a carbide cutting blade on my Fein Multicaster oscillating tool from inside the cabin to try to cut

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2016-03-01 Thread robert via CnC-List
I used a very stiff 'putty knife' which I filed to a sharp edge.slowly went around each window from the inside tapping the putty knife with a rubber hammer. I got 3 of the windows out with no problems..didn't break any gelcoat. Then the last window, the putty knife wouldn't cut out th

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2016-03-01 Thread Frederick G Street via CnC-List
Dave — I got my old fixed windows (redone by the previous owner with 1/4” acrylic and Plexus adhesive) out last weekend. I tried a carbide cutting blade on my Fein Multicaster oscillating tool from inside the cabin to try to cut the Plexus out; the blade was shot after about two inches… the Ple

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2016-03-01 Thread Gary Russell via CnC-List
indows? > > Thanks, > > Charlie Nelson > 1995 C&C 36XL/kcb > Water Phantom > Oriental, NC > > > cenel...@aol.com > > > -Original Message- > From: Dave Godwin via CnC-List > To: cnc-list > Cc: Dave Godwin > Sent: Tue, Mar 1, 2016 11:30

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2016-03-01 Thread Charlie Nelson via CnC-List
c: Dave Godwin Sent: Tue, Mar 1, 2016 11:30 am Subject: Re: Stus-List Window Replacement Dave, There was a pretty good discussion on this subject back in November and another lister (sorry, can’t remember who it was) posted his impressive work on repairing and replacing his fixed ports. I poste

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2016-03-01 Thread Gary Russell via CnC-List
I think that was my post. I can say that a flush fit is overrated when you are using VHB tape because it is 0.090" thick anyway. Remember that the VHB tape is not a sealant, just the adhesive. You will be filing the gap with Dow Corning 795 black silicone afterwards, anyway. I used the darker o

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2016-03-01 Thread Dave Godwin via CnC-List
Dave, There was a pretty good discussion on this subject back in November and another lister (sorry, can’t remember who it was) posted his impressive work on repairing and replacing his fixed ports. I posted something as

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2016-03-01 Thread Dave via CnC-List
In my window replacement project I've removed the old windows, most of the old adhesive, done a fair degree of damage to the gel coat and created one small chip in the surrounding fiberglass. There is a layer of old adhesive (brown) between the two windows (and a section where the adhesive came

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2016-02-01 Thread Mike Amirault via CnC-List
I agree with Rob’s method; try to get a putty knife between the window and the plexus and tap it along; it will likely let go. When I took mine out all I had to do was give them a sharp rap with my closed fist and they just popped out. Mike Amirault C&C33II Lovely Cruise St Margarets Bay, NS -

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2016-02-01 Thread dwight veinot via CnC-List
Please let me add a few remarks about adhesive window (port) replacements or repairs, I have been on Azura with Robert and it is virtually impossible to notice his gelcoat repair...he did an excellent job and the materials and procedure he used to replace his windows seems to be standing up fine ov

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2016-02-01 Thread robert via CnC-List
Dave: I used a very stiff 'putty knife' which I filed to a sharp edge.slowly went around each window tapping the putty knife with a rubber hammer. I got 3of the windows out with no problems..didn't break any gelcoat. Then the last window, the putty knife wouldn't cut out the top of

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2016-02-01 Thread Robert Boyer via CnC-List
If the old window is loose at one end (where it leaks), start pushing it outward from that point, even using a big rubber mallet. The old plexis adhesive is strong but brittle. Hope this helps! Bob Sent from my iPhone, Bob Boyer > On Feb 1, 2016, at 12:10 PM, Gary Russell via CnC-List > wr

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2016-02-01 Thread Gary Russell via CnC-List
Dave, I would suggest dynamite! Plexus is evil stuff, and I doubt you will get the windows out without some gel coat damage. The good news is if you are careful, you can limit the damage to areas beneath the new windows where it can't be seen. I tried a box cutter blade on one window a

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2016-02-01 Thread Dave via CnC-List
I know this topic's been beat to death and I have every suggestion on what adhesive/tape to use and how to install the new windows. But, I don't have the emails saying how to get the old windows out. A large exacto blade worked great taking out the sealant but not so much on the underlying, very

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2015-04-25 Thread Jeffrey Nelson via CnC-List
Thanks for the tips. Anytime your around, I'm up for a beverage. :-) It's gotta get a bunch warmer before I tackle windows though... -- Cheers, Jeff Nelson Muir Caileag C&C 30 Armdale Y.C. Halifax On 24/04/2015 12:41 AM, robert via CnC-List wrote: Jeff: Quote from the SAI

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2015-04-23 Thread robert via CnC-List
Jeff: Quote from the SAIL magazine article referenced in the earlier post: "*Sealant/Adhesive Choices* Two products you should never use to bed plastic portlights are polysulfide (Life-Calk, etc.), which attacks the plastic, and polyurethane (3M 5200, etc.), which is attacked by the plastic. O

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2015-04-23 Thread robert via CnC-List
. Mike *From:*CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *robert via CnC-List *Sent:* Tuesday, April 21, 2015 10:26 PM *To:* Jeffrey Nelson; cnc-list@cnc-list.com *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Window Replacement Jeff: Due to leaks in the windows, and no matter what I tried, the le

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2015-04-22 Thread Jeffrey Nelson via CnC-List
I replaced mine about 7 or 8 years ago. I used some special...expensive...glue with a special gun to administer it. Held for quite a while but the back end where the window flexes(?), curves maybe better, most has popped out. So, I guess it's time to do it all again. I'll look for your post i

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2015-04-22 Thread PME via CnC-List
Hi, The procedure outlined by Don Casey in a Sail magazine is excellent. To add to Casey’s article, I traced the old port and cut the material slightly larger with a sabersaw. I then sanded the edges down to final size with an orbital sander. This worked easily and produced nice results.

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2015-04-22 Thread Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List
c-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Window Replacement Jeff: Due to leaks in the windows, and no matter what I tried, the leaks didn't stop until we replaced the windows. I took the old windows to the retailer who produced new acrylic windows and we installed with Sika 295UV. I have posted t

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2015-04-21 Thread robert via CnC-List
Jeff: Due to leaks in the windows, and no matter what I tried, the leaks didn't stop until we replaced the windows. I took the old windows to the retailer who produced new acrylic windows and we installed with Sika 295UV. I have posted the step by step process here on the list several times

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2015-04-20 Thread Peter Fell via CnC-List
Boat_SigDo a search in the list archive ... we had a recent lengthy discussion on window replacement. From: Jeffrey Nelson via CnC-List Sent: Monday, April 20, 2015 3:24 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Window Replacement Given the amount of water dripping onto my galley

Re: Stus-List Window Replacement

2015-04-20 Thread Jeffrey Nelson via CnC-List
Given the amount of water dripping onto my galley table, re-caulking isn't going to do it for long. Take your windows out, take them to any place that deals with acrylic and have them duplicate them...if you break your windows make a template out of 1/4 plywood to take in. Let me know if you

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2015-04-20 Thread Ron Ander via CnC-List
I need to repair some leaking from the windows. It was suggested to me that removing the existing windows, cleaning up the surfaces, and reinstalling them can be a problem because the windows might break. Does re-caulking alone solve a leaking problem? If I need new windows where can I p

Re: Stus-List Window replacement

2014-10-06 Thread Nate Flesness via CnC-List
I'm wondering too if the climate variation might be a factor in Plexus longevity... we have very wide temperature range annually up here. Nate "Sarah Jean" 1980 30-1 Siskiwit Bay Marina Lake Superior On Mon, Oct 6, 2014 at 12:37 PM, Robert Boyer via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Bil

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2014-10-06 Thread Robert Boyer via CnC-List
Bill: Your C&C 39 (I think) is probably a stiffer boat (less flexing) and that may be why your Plexus is surviving so well. All I have is the experience on my Landfall 38 (1983) and the original windows were installed at the factory in Rhode Island. Bob Bob Boyer S/V Rainy Days / Annapoli

Re: Stus-List Window replacement

2014-10-05 Thread cpt.burt via CnC-List
-list@cnc-list.com Subject: Re: Stus-List Window replacement My experience has been that my windows were redone when my 1986 boat was about 13 years old, and now, 15 years after that, I have zero leaks. That is why I question the eagerness to experiment. For me, Plexis has proven itself. If yo

Re: Stus-List Window replacement

2014-10-05 Thread Bill Bina via CnC-List
My experience has been that my windows were redone when my 1986 boat was about 13 years old, and now, 15 years after that, I have zero leaks. That is why I question the eagerness to experiment. For me, Plexis has proven itself. If you had to replace your windows a

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2014-10-04 Thread Robert Boyer via CnC-List
> If Plexis has lasted 20-30 years, why take a risk on something with > less of a track record? Seems as if Plexis has Proven itself to last > plenty long. I have owned my boat for 28 years, buying it from the original owner when it was 3 years old. I know I replaced the windows the first time

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2014-10-04 Thread Robert Abbott via CnC-List
ot;Midnight Mistress"/* *C&C 35 Mk-III* *Hampton VA* *From:*CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] *On Behalf Of *Eric Baumes via CnC-List *Sent:* Friday, October 03, 2014 3:33 PM *To:* cnc-list *Subject:* Stus-List Window replacement (cross posted fro

Re: Stus-List Window replacement (cross posted from 34-36 group

2014-10-04 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
Here's an extract from Beneteau's hull ports installation procedure: EMFI products BODO MOLLER products Degreaser Degreaser 1001 Degreaser VP 04604 Primer Primer 34024A Primer 5404 Adhesive PB adhesive E 2700 A & B adhesive I got the procedure from them a few years ago when I replace

Re: Stus-List Window replacement (cross posted from 34-36 group

2014-10-04 Thread Bill Bina via CnC-List
C-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com > ] *On Behalf Of *Eric Baumes via CnC-List > *Sent:* Friday, October 03, 2014 3:33 PM > *To:* cnc-list > *Subject:* Stus-List Window replacement (cross posted from 34-36 group > > > > Hello, > > > > I think my winter pr

Re: Stus-List Window replacement (cross posted from 34-36 group

2014-10-04 Thread Indigo via CnC-List
On Behalf Of Eric > Baumes via CnC-List > Sent: Friday, October 03, 2014 3:33 PM > To: cnc-list > Subject: Stus-List Window replacement (cross posted from 34-36 group > > Hello, > > I think my winter project this year will be to replace the windows on the > boat. T

Re: Stus-List Window replacement (cross posted from 34-36 group

2014-10-03 Thread Jake Brodersen via CnC-List
exus. Jake Jake Brodersen “Midnight Mistress” C&C 35 Mk-III Hampton VA From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Eric Baumes via CnC-List Sent: Friday, October 03, 2014 3:33 PM To: cnc-list Subject: Stus-List Window replacement (cross posted from 34-

Re: Stus-List Window replacement

2014-10-03 Thread Edd Schillay via CnC-List
Eric, We did this job last Spring. The old windows were cracked, had gaps and leaked a lot whenever it rained. The old ones came up pretty easily with a blade and we did not damage to the gel coat. The biggest hassle was getting the surface ready for the new windows, including

Re: Stus-List Window replacement

2014-10-03 Thread Dennis C. via CnC-List
I used a Dremel MultiMax with a Dremel MM610 flexible scraper blade to remove some ports a couple months ago. Much better than a manual tool. However, those ports weren't the C&C type ports, just regular openeing ports. Dennis C. Touche' 35-1 #83 Mandeville, LA On Fri, Oct 3, 2014 at 4:17 PM, To

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2014-10-03 Thread Tony Wroblewski via CnC-List
Eric, after having done this job a couple of times, a multitool with a flat saw blade makes short work of the removal. Place the blade between the window and fiberglass and cut away. Removes very little gel coat if you're carefull. ___

Stus-List Window replacement (cross posted from 34-36 group

2014-10-03 Thread Eric Baumes via CnC-List
Hello, I think my winter project this year will be to replace the windows on the boat. They are pretty badly pitted and have vertical splits in the windows. Any advise on taking on this task. It looks like South Shore Yachts will create these based on a paper template. I am wondering how to get