Once you figure out the cross section and part number of the spline you
need, you will find it readily available and pretty reasonable. A couple of
years ago, I thought about buying a 100 ft roll on Ebay at a cost of about
$20. I may just do that the next time I need to reseal the 6 portlights on
m
The D shaped EPDM seal that Dennis recommends makes a much better seal and
lasts longer than the foam strip that goes between the frame and the
Plexiglas. It also costs a whole lot less than the foam strip if you are
buying the foam from Southshore Yachts.
Take a small piece of your window spli
Eric,
I race our 34R in a small mixed fleet and we do well, usually finishing 1st or
2nd against only 4 to 5 boats, but many times, a J28 with a ridiculous "GIFT"
PHRF rating of 174, beats us if he finishes within 5 minutes of us.
Instead, I really compete against one boat: a 34+ wing keel wit
Try West Marine, or EBay, or any other chandlery you care to name. They are
called Reef Hooks or Reef Horns.
If Lolita came with roller reefing like my 25, you can attach the hooks with
a stainless capscrew and nylock nut through the hole in the gooseneck where
the reefing handle/crank was inse
Martin,
I share your mainsail flaking disease and tying up the boat proper and I don't
appologize for it.
Many times, I finish a daysail or a race, have a little socializing, then say
goodbye to the guests and crew and then go into my zen like "put the boat away
mode". I redo the main before
I tried this single line approach last spring during a moment of contemplation
and "seemed like a good idea at the time" moment. The results were like this. A
10 mile down wind race with ever increasing winds. While enjoying the ride we
didn't notice how much the wind had come up. When we rounde
Forego the hooks. If you don't have a cunningham, rig one and use it instead of
the hooks. That's what we do on Touché.
Here's our drill. We have a mark on the main halyard. We ease the halyard until
the mark is at the rope clutch. Mast man hooks the Cunningham in the cringle.
The reef line
Steve,
Thanks for getting back to me. I doubt getting this Gori 2-blade 16.5 x 11 RH
prop rebalanced will help since I already did this and the results we're
negative. After trying to resolve this for the last three years I think the
only solution is a new prop. I relied on your company's ex
Dwight,
That might have been the intention, but that's not what it became. And, when
you have an area where there is one or two of same-model boats, it's a guessing
game.
For example, a guy in our area owns a Taylor 34. I think there is only two or
three in the world. He has a rating of 117 a
When I converted my 25 from a roller reefing main to slab / jiffy reefing a few
years back, I worked with Rigging Only in Fairhaven. They provided everything
including the hooks. There are several ways to go depending on your gooseneck.
Just email them a photo.
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Calypso's fully battened (on Harken batt cars) Pentex mainsail material is well
trained after 12 seasons but the lazy jacks keep the sail under control until I
get some ties in place.
I determined easing the outhaul helps the material and battens relax into
place. The lazy jacks also make it e
My crew has, with some practice, learned how to fold my main once and roll it
up to be tied to the boom when at the dock.
Saves some wear and tear on the sail and is probably about as fast as flaking
it. It takes at least 3 to do this well.
Charlie Nelson
Water Phantom
C&C 36 XL/kcb
Greenvill
Edd, it's a performance based system.
Dwight Veinot
C&C 35 MKII, Alianna
Head of St. Margaret's Bay, NS
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From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Edd
Schillay
Sent: February 8, 2013 5:19 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Re: Stus-List Handicap review
Gary
You have a C&C 30 MKI, I believe, and that's a big part of why you don't
need to reef a lot or maybe you sail in predominantly light winds. The 29
MKII is not near as stiff so John may have to reef a lot more than you.I
would say he might want to start reefing at 15 apparent to weather wh
Any chandlery.Sam:-)
I have forgone lazy jacks. I like to watch my crew try to flake the
laminate sail. The more the better. When it is my wife and I do it, no
problem. 3 or more crew is really fun to watch.
Eric
34+
PS My wife worked in the fashion industry so she knows how to fold :)
On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 6:19 P
Your way is absolutely right, Jonathan. If you tension the clew before the
halyard, you stand a good chance of ripping the bolt rope or slug out of he
main.
Andy
C&C 40
Peregrine
Andrew Burton
61 W Narragansett
Newport, RI
USA02840
http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
+4
Try South Shore
Joel Aronson
On Feb 8, 2013, at 6:13 PM, "djhaug...@juno.com" wrote:
My Boat does not have the hooks at the goosneck you are all describing.
Any idea where i might find them?
Danny,
Lolita
1973 Viking 33
Westport Point, MA
-- Original Message --
From: "Indig
My Boat does not have the hooks at the goosneck you are all describing. Any
idea where i might find them? Danny,Lolita1973 Viking 33Westport Point, MA
-- Original Message --
From: "Indigo"
To:
Subject: Re: Stus-List Main Reefing System
Date: Fri, 8 Feb 2013 17:55:14 -0500
“To
I have been thinking about the shortcomings of PHRF recently and how
ratings can be challenged. http://www.phrf-nb.org/ has a description of the
process which is interesting. It tends to stack the odds against the "odd"
or older boat. If you can take the politics out of it, generally it will be
ha
"To reef, lower the main, one person hooks the little strap to the hook on
the gooseneck, and another hauls in the leech line (my boat has a small
winch on the side of the boom and a cleat just forward of that). When the
line is tight, then secure it and hoist the main back up."
I have always t
>>Lazy jacks and slab reefing all done at the mast.<<
This is what I use on Calypso. I am able to put in the 1st reef by myself in
<5 minutes, <3 with someone on the mainsheet. I still have the original
captive wire halyard winch on the main which normally makes it fast and easy to
handle. 2
The brain trust at the YRALIS PHRF Board had them at 102.
I think there were two J105 owners on the board at the time.
All the best,
Edd
Edd M. Schillay
Starship Enterprise
C&C 37/40+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B
City Island, NY
Stars
If there are some obvious goof-ups by your local PHRF group, why can't you
lobby them to consider the national database that US Sailing uses. Your local
conditions cannot be that different than the rest of the country, and if they
are, then there should be a bunch of differences and some logic b
I think what you're asking for is a measurement rule, Edd. And if we can get
some foreigners interested in it, we can call it an international rule... For
offshore boats. Yeah, the International Offshore Rule, IOR for short. Oh wait...
Seriously, the human factor is what makes PHRF a better rule
Lazy jacks and slab reefing all done at the mast.The lazy jacks are only used when dropping the main. The rest of the time they are hooked under the rams horns.2 stainless rings connected by a very short piece of webbing through the luff cringle; leech reefing line led aft around a cheek block and
All,
Here's my 3 cents (increased for inflation) on PHRF. In the past, I've
found the PHRF Board from the YRA of LIS to be the most corrupt and
ethically-challenged group in existence. To quote a famous movie, "You will
never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy."
No
There are two ways to go - a single line system which can be controlled from
the cockpit or a two-man system.
The two man system is easier to rig. Put a reefing cringle about 3 feet up the
luff of the main - my sailmaker then put a short strap through the cringle -
the strap has a ring at each
OK I give, what's the name of the song?RonWild Cheri
--- On Sun, 2/3/13, Wally Bryant wrote:
From: Wally Bryant
Subject: Re: Stus-List Cabin sole refinish
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Date: Sunday, February 3, 2013, 4:54 PM
I wrote:
> But, really, so what. There is no perfect finish. It's like
I will put a reefing system in for the loose-footed main on my 29-2 this
spring. Would appreciate any suggestions or plans from all you knowledgeable
folks out there.
John McLaughlin
C&C29 MKII, "Falcon"
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I will have to remember that line.
We do have our revenge in other ways, however - a memorable weekend race up
to Ashtabula from Erie some years ago put the sportboater in his place -
(Who is also a friend and oftentimes crew).
He did a horizon job on the fleet in his Melges 24, they were yuk
You are a mark 1. Stern is vertical? The 30-2 was later and is a very
different boat - has creases in the cabin sides/top, a swept back stern,
most have a winged keel, wider, etc.
The 1's were designed in the early '70's and were built until about '81 or
so. Look on the upper right corner of t
dwight wrote:
...you appear to write more effectively than I do.I also have some
trophies, mostly plastic keepers ...
Yeah. Most of my trophies are latex, and I usually toss them
overboard. The 'keepers' tend to clog up the pumps.
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I wanted my post from Wednesday to make the same point about handicap racing
but you appear to write more effectively than I do.I also have some
trophies, mostly plastic keepers and our boat name on a few oldies held at
the club but those winnings came at the expense of having fun more of
PHRF works pretty well (what else has worked better that I could afford?)
to allow me to race Mojito. I have a Laser that I could race without the
handicap issues, but there are very few one design fleets that race
regularly round here (that I know of at least). I used to be the
handicapper for t
thanks for the quick response,
On the link you provided there is 2 boats . Not sure the if my C&C30 MK 1
is
C+C 30 174
C+C 30-2 144
?
On 2/8/13, Joel Aronson wrote:
> Curtis,
> Ratings vary by region. Here is a link to the New England ratings:
>
> http://www.phrfne.org/page/567
>
> There will
On the Chesapeake, that boat is rated 174, including the prop. Chesapeake
considers the prop as standard. There's no adjustment for hank-on sails. The
asym sail (spinnaker?) is rated depending on its size, it may call for a 3
second decrease in the PHRF number, but it depends on where it is atta
Curtis,
Ratings vary by region. Here is a link to the New England ratings:
http://www.phrfne.org/page/567
There will be an adjustment for the folding prop. If I remember correctly,
some regions penalize you, others assume you have one and give credit for a
fixed prop.
Joel
35/3
Annapolis
On
So where can I find the rating for 1981 C&C 30 MK1 All Hank on sails,
folding 2 blade prop with asy sail. PHRF?
On 2/8/13, Martin DeYoung wrote:
> Back in the late 70's or early 80's when PHRF was picking up speed in the
> PNW (IOR was the dominant rule at the time) it was referred to as Politica
Back in the late 70's or early 80's when PHRF was picking up speed in the PNW
(IOR was the dominant rule at the time) it was referred to as Political
Handicap Rating.
If you want to see how little PHRFNW has progressed in nearly 40 years check
out the Sailing Anarchy discussion on PHRFNW's unil
Sorry, I wasn't following the C&C 25 thread - is someone looking for one?
We have one for sale at the marina where I work part time:
http://www.ghostlakerecreations.com/sales-and-service/boats-item-listing.php?id=97&;
Sam Salter
C&C 26 Liquorice
Ghost Lake Alberta
Sucks only if you're not in with the handicap committee. If you've got contacts
on the rating committee and you own a boat that is one of a kind in your area,
you're golden. That's why I call PHRF racing a "contact" sport.
End of rant.
Dennis C.
Sent from my iPhone
On Feb 8, 2013, at 12:02 PM
Man just skimming all this discussion makes it increasingly clear while
sailboat racing is in decline.
I've certainly got more than my share of racing trophies on the wall (both
handicap and one-design) but this handicap stuff really sucks the soul out
of the sport (IMO, of course)
Cheers,
Co
Mark; Thanks, Ted did contact me and I have sent him the info on a 25 which is
available here in the Louisvile area.
Richard
1987 33-II
Richard N. Bush Law Offices
235 South Fifth Street, Fourth Floor
Louisville, Kentucky 40202
502-584-7255
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To
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From: Mark G
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Sent: Fri, 08 Feb 2013 17:36:17 - (UTC)
Subject: Re: Stus-List Long Island C&C 25 group
Richard,
About a year ago this guy Ted Drossos re
Richard,
About a year ago this guy Ted Drossos
responded as written below to a similar question from another
lister. Below is a link to the magazine article. Some fantastic photos of
some beautiful 25s! Hope this helps.
Mark
"I'm a member of the South Bay Cruising Club (SBCC
FYI:
Blue Sea will make custom labels.
See http://bluesea.com/files/resources/instructions/990010170.pdf
Joe Della Barba
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The panel on the mid-70s 38 was wood grain with the labels routered into the
surface and showing white text. Over the years Ive addes a number of items
abd moved others around to what seemed a more logical grouping.
A local chandlery had a display of black plastic tags about 1 ¼ x ½ with
wh
Yes, actually Jonathan ( Genco ) asked me to take measurements even if I told
him my 27 was bone stock ( with options like extra long handrails ). I asked
for upgraded plastics so they installed Strataglass as an upgrade.
Since they are 500km from my home I better had good measurements, their
i
I had a lot of issues with my first try when Genco made my canvas. They used a
C&C 35 near them as the boat to make the pattern from and it turns out the
measurements were NOT the same. Here is a link to what I sent them to get it
cut right:
http://www.dellabarba.com/sailing/dodger.htm
If you a
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