So where can I find the rating for 1981 C&C 30 MK1 All Hank on sails, folding 2 blade prop with asy sail. PHRF?
On 2/8/13, Martin DeYoung <mdeyo...@deyoungmfg.com> wrote: > Back in the late 70's or early 80's when PHRF was picking up speed in the > PNW (IOR was the dominant rule at the time) it was referred to as Political > Handicap Rating. > > If you want to see how little PHRFNW has progressed in nearly 40 years check > out the Sailing Anarchy discussion on PHRFNW's unilateral and substantial > increase in <0 ratings. > > I do not have a bone in the fight as Calypso is nowhere close to being a sub > zero rated boat, in fact I rarely ever consider the class ratings when we > race the boat as it is not kept in competitive condition. We budget our > sailing cost vs. fun ratio in a way that keeps us from buying new sails and > polishing the bottom paint. > > Having said all that PHRF generally allows very different boats to sail > against each other. I do find it funny to be rated similar to a Soveral 33 > (+-6,000lbs) or owe time to a <10 year old planning hull design that runs > laps around a C&C 43 in light air. I do get even with the sporty boats when > in a low speed close crossing/mark rounding situation I inform the sporty > boat that they will need a liferaft before a protest flag if they stick > their bow into that closing space. > > Martin > Calypso > 1970 C&C 43 > Seattle > ________________________________ > From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of Dennis > C. > Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 10:15 AM > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List Handicap review > > Sucks only if you're not in with the handicap committee. If you've got > contacts on the rating committee and you own a boat that is one of a kind in > your area, you're golden. That's why I call PHRF racing a "contact" sport. > > End of rant. > > Dennis C. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Feb 8, 2013, at 12:02 PM, Colin Kilgour > <charliekilo...@gmail.com<mailto:charliekilo...@gmail.com>> wrote: > Man.... just skimming all this discussion makes it increasingly clear while > sailboat racing is in decline. > > I've certainly got more than my share of racing trophies on the wall (both > handicap and one-design) but this handicap stuff really sucks the soul out > of the sport (IMO, of course) > Cheers, > Colin > > On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 7:08 PM, Bill Coleman > <colt...@verizon.net<mailto:colt...@verizon.net>> wrote: > C&C 39 > > 99 > > 2283 > > 16.9 > > 51.1 > > 45.2 > > 12.7 > > 39.5 > > 32 > > 11.3 > > 6.3 > > 16000 > > C&C 39 CUS1 > > 99 > > 2277 > > 16.9 > > 51.1 > > 45.2 > > 12.7 > > 39.3 > > 32 > > 11.1 > > 6.3 > > 16000 > > C&C 39 CUS2 > > 99 > > 2300 > > 16.9 > > 51 > > 45.5 > > 14.4 > > 39.5 > > 32 > > 11.3 > > 6.3 > > 16000 > > C&C 39 CUS3 > > 99 > > 2303 > > 16.9 > > 52.1 > > 46 > > 14.1 > > 39.5 > > 31.7 > > 11.5 > > 6.3 > > 0 > > > 99. These are our ratings up on the frozen north. I imagine at least 2 > of these are not around anymore, all these 4 ratings have modifications, > from keels to spars. > I am probably the cus3, I got docked 6 seconds for adding a foot to my boom > and a Roach Which, I might add was worth it. > BTW, that 16000 should be 21000. Which would probably bring these ratings to > 110. > Bill Coleman > -- “The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjusts the sails.” _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
