If there are some obvious goof-ups by your local PHRF group, why can't you lobby them to consider the national database that US Sailing uses. Your local conditions cannot be that different than the rest of the country, and if they are, then there should be a bunch of differences and some logic behind them. I view our locals as 'not good' because they do create some stupid numbers, but on the average, they seem to be in the ball park.
Since the national numbers (high, low, and average) have been published, I would assume that your locals should be urged to come up with some logic behind any substantial differences. If they are that corrupt and play favorites, then I guess you are really screwed. We do get some screw-ups - I think they screwed the C&C 99 originally and haven't fixed it enough, but Tim Jackett brought out hull number 1 (which didn't have a full interior) out here to show us how good it was. With a killer crew, they kicked butt - and got the handicap that boat deserved. When the production boats hit the water, they were not able to sail to those numbers and the lobbying started.... I still think the classic is when my friend took the inboard diesel, strut, prop, etc. out of his Andrews 26 and got a handicap increase from 138 to 141.... never could understand the logic behind that. What does your group have for the J105? Gary Chesbay ----- Original Message ----- From: Edd Schillay To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 4:19 PM Subject: Re: Stus-List Handicap review All, ) Here's my 3 cents (increased for inflation) on PHRF. In the past, I've found the PHRF Board from the YRA of LIS to be the most corrupt and ethically-challenged group in existence. To quote a famous movie, "You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy." Now, things have gotten better in our area, but the problem I see is that the sins of the past are hard to correct. This was especially true recently with an issue with the J/105 rating, which was WAY different than in other areas. But no board of people is ever going to say "we messed up" and adjust 18 points. That would just exposed how bad the system was (and is.) The bigger problem is that it's all we got. IRC measurements are expensive and can only be done for larger boats. There was promise with Americap, but that died out. There needs to be a way to eliminate the human element that we see on PHRF boards and find a formula system similar to what the IRC and Americap systems used, but make it free and universal. Until then, love it or hate it, we're stuck with PHRF. So there's the challenge -- And I urge all you retired mathematic or engineering experts to fire up that old Apple II computer and come up with a system that will take in sail area, displacement, waterline and the I, J, P and E measurements (and give credits for certain speed-affecting cursing gear) and spit out a rating number or Time Correction Factor that will end all the favoritism and corruption at the local PHRF Board. There has got to be a way. All the best, Edd Edd M. Schillay Starship Enterprise C&C 37/40+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B City Island, NY Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log Website ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
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