I think what you're asking for is a measurement rule, Edd. And if we can get some foreigners interested in it, we can call it an international rule... For offshore boats. Yeah, the International Offshore Rule, IOR for short. Oh wait...
Seriously, the human factor is what makes PHRF a better rule than a strictly measurement-based rule. I still get a kick of looking at half models of last-generation IOR boats. The distortions at the measurement points is astounding. I don't have an answer, I'm just sitting watching the snow fall with nothing much I have to do. I do remember an article in 48 North magazine years ago about rating rules entitled "If You're so Good, Why Don't You Sail One Design." And that holds true today. There is nothing so much fun in sailing as getting out on a race course with a bunch of other boats just like yours and sailing around a course. It doesn't much matter if it's Ideal 18s or C&C 40s. Just my 2 cents. Cheers Andy C&C 40 Peregrine Andrew Burton 61 W Narragansett Newport, RI USA 02840 http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ +401 965-5260 On Feb 8, 2013, at 4:19 PM, Edd Schillay <e...@schillay.com> wrote: > All, > > Here's my 3 cents (increased for inflation) on PHRF. In the past, I've > found the PHRF Board from the YRA of LIS to be the most corrupt and > ethically-challenged group in existence. To quote a famous movie, "You will > never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy." > > Now, things have gotten better in our area, but the problem I see is > that the sins of the past are hard to correct. This was especially true > recently with an issue with the J/105 rating, which was WAY different than in > other areas. But no board of people is ever going to say "we messed up" and > adjust 18 points. That would just exposed how bad the system was (and is.) > > The bigger problem is that it's all we got. IRC measurements are > expensive and can only be done for larger boats. There was promise with > Americap, but that died out. There needs to be a way to eliminate the human > element that we see on PHRF boards and find a formula system similar to what > the IRC and Americap systems used, but make it free and universal. Until > then, love it or hate it, we're stuck with PHRF. > > So there's the challenge -- And I urge all you retired mathematic or > engineering experts to fire up that old Apple II computer and come up with a > system that will take in sail area, displacement, waterline and the I, J, P > and E measurements (and give credits for certain speed-affecting cursing > gear) and spit out a rating number or Time Correction Factor that will end > all the favoritism and corruption at the local PHRF Board. > > There has got to be a way. > > > All the best, > > Edd > > > Edd M. Schillay > Starship Enterprise > C&C 37/40+ | Sail No: NCC-1701-B > City Island, NY > Starship Enterprise's Captain's Log Website > > > _______________________________________________ > This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album > http://www.cncphotoalbum.com > CnC-List@cnc-list.com
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