thanks for the quick response, On the link you provided there is 2 boats . Not sure the if my C&C30 MK 1 is C+C 30 174 C+C 30-2 144 ?
On 2/8/13, Joel Aronson <joel.aron...@gmail.com> wrote: > Curtis, > Ratings vary by region. Here is a link to the New England ratings: > > http://www.phrfne.org/page/567 > > There will be an adjustment for the folding prop. If I remember correctly, > some regions penalize you, others assume you have one and give credit for a > fixed prop. > > Joel > 35/3 > Annapolis > > > On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Curtis <cpt.b...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> So where can I find the rating for 1981 C&C 30 MK1 All Hank on sails, >> folding 2 blade prop with asy sail. PHRF? >> >> On 2/8/13, Martin DeYoung <mdeyo...@deyoungmfg.com> wrote: >> > Back in the late 70's or early 80's when PHRF was picking up speed in >> > the >> > PNW (IOR was the dominant rule at the time) it was referred to as >> Political >> > Handicap Rating. >> > >> > If you want to see how little PHRFNW has progressed in nearly 40 years >> check >> > out the Sailing Anarchy discussion on PHRFNW's unilateral and >> > substantial >> > increase in <0 ratings. >> > >> > I do not have a bone in the fight as Calypso is nowhere close to being >> > a >> sub >> > zero rated boat, in fact I rarely ever consider the class ratings when >> > we >> > race the boat as it is not kept in competitive condition. We budget >> > our >> > sailing cost vs. fun ratio in a way that keeps us from buying new sails >> and >> > polishing the bottom paint. >> > >> > Having said all that PHRF generally allows very different boats to sail >> > against each other. I do find it funny to be rated similar to a >> > Soveral >> 33 >> > (+-6,000lbs) or owe time to a <10 year old planning hull design that >> > runs >> > laps around a C&C 43 in light air. I do get even with the sporty boats >> when >> > in a low speed close crossing/mark rounding situation I inform the >> > sporty >> > boat that they will need a liferaft before a protest flag if they stick >> > their bow into that closing space. >> > >> > Martin >> > Calypso >> > 1970 C&C 43 >> > Seattle >> > ________________________________ >> > From: CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com] On Behalf Of >> Dennis >> > C. >> > Sent: Friday, February 08, 2013 10:15 AM >> > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com >> > Subject: Re: Stus-List Handicap review >> > >> > Sucks only if you're not in with the handicap committee. If you've got >> > contacts on the rating committee and you own a boat that is one of a >> kind in >> > your area, you're golden. That's why I call PHRF racing a "contact" >> sport. >> > >> > End of rant. >> > >> > Dennis C. >> > >> > Sent from my iPhone >> > >> > On Feb 8, 2013, at 12:02 PM, Colin Kilgour >> > <charliekilo...@gmail.com<mailto:charliekilo...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> > Man.... just skimming all this discussion makes it increasingly clear >> while >> > sailboat racing is in decline. >> > >> > I've certainly got more than my share of racing trophies on the wall >> (both >> > handicap and one-design) but this handicap stuff really sucks the soul >> out >> > of the sport (IMO, of course) >> > Cheers, >> > Colin >> > >> > On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 7:08 PM, Bill Coleman >> > <colt...@verizon.net<mailto:colt...@verizon.net>> wrote: >> > C&C 39 >> > >> > 99 >> > >> > 2283 >> > >> > 16.9 >> > >> > 51.1 >> > >> > 45.2 >> > >> > 12.7 >> > >> > 39.5 >> > >> > 32 >> > >> > 11.3 >> > >> > 6.3 >> > >> > 16000 >> > >> > C&C 39 CUS1 >> > >> > 99 >> > >> > 2277 >> > >> > 16.9 >> > >> > 51.1 >> > >> > 45.2 >> > >> > 12.7 >> > >> > 39.3 >> > >> > 32 >> > >> > 11.1 >> > >> > 6.3 >> > >> > 16000 >> > >> > C&C 39 CUS2 >> > >> > 99 >> > >> > 2300 >> > >> > 16.9 >> > >> > 51 >> > >> > 45.5 >> > >> > 14.4 >> > >> > 39.5 >> > >> > 32 >> > >> > 11.3 >> > >> > 6.3 >> > >> > 16000 >> > >> > C&C 39 CUS3 >> > >> > 99 >> > >> > 2303 >> > >> > 16.9 >> > >> > 52.1 >> > >> > 46 >> > >> > 14.1 >> > >> > 39.5 >> > >> > 31.7 >> > >> > 11.5 >> > >> > 6.3 >> > >> > 0 >> > >> > >> > 99. These are our ratings up on the frozen north. I imagine at >> > least >> 2 >> > of these are not around anymore, all these 4 ratings have >> > modifications, >> > from keels to spars. >> > I am probably the cus3, I got docked 6 seconds for adding a foot to my >> boom >> > and a Roach Which, I might add was worth it. >> > BTW, that 16000 should be 21000. Which would probably bring these >> ratings to >> > 110. >> > Bill Coleman >> > >> >> >> -- >> “The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to >> change; the realist adjusts the sails.” >> >> _______________________________________________ >> This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album >> http://www.cncphotoalbum.com >> CnC-List@cnc-list.com >> > > > > -- > Joel > 301 541 8551 > -- “The pessimist complains about the wind; the optimist expects it to change; the realist adjusts the sails.” _______________________________________________ This List is provided by the C&C Photo Album http://www.cncphotoalbum.com CnC-List@cnc-list.com
