DIS: Prime Powers

2017-05-25 Thread Quazie
Here is a proto proposal for more Executive Orders. I think there might be interesting ones for Surveyor and Secretary as well, but I couldn't think of them just now. Proposal: Prime Rib {{{ In rule 2451 replace {{{ The available Cabinet Orders are: - Certiorari (Arbitor): The Pr

DIS: Wow - Proposal Competitions are crazy powerful.

2017-05-25 Thread Quazie
I ENCOURAGE someone to come up with an interesting proposal competition. I SUGGEST that the economy is an interesting objective. I SUGGEST that judicial reform is an interesting objective. I SUGGEST that theming the game is an interesting objective. How in the world have we not had a Proposal Com

Re: DIS: Trivial Proposals

2017-05-25 Thread Quazie
`A player may pend a Trivial Proposal by paying 1 Shiny to Agora without Objection.` Thanks for the more concise wording, and you're now a co-author by my new distinction of anyone who gives me a critique i take is a co-author. On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 7:37 PM Ørjan Johansen wrote: > On Thu, 25

DIS: How to make an Agora Virus of a sort

2017-05-25 Thread CuddleBeam
So I tried to think of a way to somehow make a "virus" via agencies because they're so computer- like but I couldn't figure out a way to make some entity copy itself into other Agencies by force. I eventually figured that I'd need something that is driven by people themselves. So I thought of the

Re: DIS: Trivial Proposals

2017-05-25 Thread Ørjan Johansen
On Thu, 25 May 2017, Quazie wrote: A player may pend a Trivial Proposal without Objection, by paying 1 Shiny to Agora. If an Objection occurs, this 1 paid Shiny may be used to as a partial payment towards the cost of pending the proposal. Note that by rule 1728, "without Objecti

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Joining the fun

2017-05-25 Thread Ørjan Johansen
On Thu, 25 May 2017, Quazie wrote: How did you find us? Why are you here? What the heck is up with all these new players appearing? I LOVE IT! AAA It's an invasion!!! Greetings, Ørjan.

DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ 3509 Judgement (Dismissed, insufficient information)

2017-05-25 Thread Ørjan Johansen
On Thu, 25 May 2017, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: I hereby file a Motion to Reconsider with 2 Support. We actually do expect a judge to do further "scholarly" (if you like) research into the rules to make their decisions with. If you are unwilling to do such, you should remove yoursel

Re: Re: DIS: Proto: Agoran Research Funding/Grants/Scholarship/other term

2017-05-25 Thread CuddleBeam
>Great Degree, Super Awesome Degree, Very Very Rad Degree... goddamnit I laughed way harder than I should have lol

Re: Re: DIS: Proto: Agoran Research Funding/Grants/Scholarship/other term

2017-05-25 Thread CuddleBeam
>Proto: For every thesis beyond a PhD-qualifying thesis that a >player submits, e receives a Degree where is one >more positive adjectives than the last degree e received had. >PhD, Great Degree, Super Awesome Degree, Very Very Rad Degree... goddamnit I laughed way harder than I should have lo

Re: DIS: Proto: Agoran Research Funding/Grants/Scholarship/other term

2017-05-25 Thread Nic Evans
On 05/25/2017 07:30 PM, CuddleBeam wrote: Ah, ok, sorry. I also wondering about that myself because what would happen if I max out at degrees yet still want to submit more thesis? I just don't go higher I guess. Or I become Magnum Philosopher Quad-PhD Thesispooper Supreme with Capuchino of No

Re: Re: Re: DIS: Proto: Agoran Research Funding/Grants/Scholarship/other term

2017-05-25 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
We could add higher degrees or we could award Certificates of High Scholarship for any extra theses. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 8:30 PM, CuddleBeam wrote: > Ah, ok, sorry. I also wondering about that myself because what would > happen if I max out at degrees ye

Re: Re: Re: DIS: Proto: Agoran Research Funding/Grants/Scholarship/other term

2017-05-25 Thread CuddleBeam
Ah, ok, sorry. I also wondering about that myself because what would happen if I max out at degrees yet still want to submit more thesis? I just don't go higher I guess. Or I become Magnum Philosopher Quad-PhD Thesispooper Supreme with Capuchino of Nomic or something I dunno.

Re: DIS: Proto: Agoran Research Funding/Grants/Scholarship/other term

2017-05-25 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 25 May 2017, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: > On this topic, why can’t someone receive multiple of the same degree? I dunno. It wasn't in the earliest mail archive version of that rule, and I can't remember it ever being an issue. I suppose there's some logic to requiring a pr

Re: Re: DIS: Proto: Agoran Research Funding/Grants/Scholarship/other term

2017-05-25 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
I wasn't saying we should change it, just wondering the original logic. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 8:20 PM, CuddleBeam wrote: > I'm guessing that it likely just made sense to themselves at the time. Why > would anyone even *try* to submit more than one thesis?

Re: Re: DIS: Proto: Agoran Research Funding/Grants/Scholarship/other term

2017-05-25 Thread CuddleBeam
I'm guessing that it likely just made sense to themselves at the time. Why would anyone even *try* to submit more than one thesis? Holy fuck. A *whole* thesis. Based on that suspicion, I think it's just spectacle creep that we consider that now to be a bit silly. Again, just guessing.

Re: DIS: Proto: Agoran Research Funding/Grants/Scholarship/other term

2017-05-25 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
On this topic, why can’t someone receive multiple of the same degree? Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On May 25, 2017, at 5:54 PM, Alex Smith wrote: > > On Thu, 2017-05-25 at 21:28 +0200, CuddleBeam wrote: >> I also request to be laid off Judging as I

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Herald] Let us begin the winning

2017-05-25 Thread Quazie
Once it's sent to Buisness - yep On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 16:48 Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > Would someone mind doing Violet ribbons for everyone? (I'd do it, but > while persons can qualify, only players can award). > > On Thu, 25 May 2017, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: > > I resolve my int

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Herald] Let us begin the winning

2017-05-25 Thread Kerim Aydin
Would someone mind doing Violet ribbons for everyone? (I'd do it, but while persons can qualify, only players can award). On Thu, 25 May 2017, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: > I resolve my intent to grant the Badge of the Great Agoran Revival. > > Publius Scribonius Scholasticus >

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: [Herald] Let us begin the winning

2017-05-25 Thread CuddleBeam
>I resolve my intent to grant the Badge of the Great Agoran Revival. I'm not sure you can do that on Discussion.

DIS: Re: BUS: [Herald] Let us begin the winning

2017-05-25 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
I resolve my intent to grant the Badge of the Great Agoran Revival. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus p.scribonius.scholasti...@gmail.com > On May 21, 2017, at 6:10 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus > wrote: > > I hereby initiate a Victory Election with all players or announced > non-pl

Re: DIS: Sites Progress

2017-05-25 Thread Kerim Aydin
Yep! On Thu, 25 May 2017, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: > I could add that, would you think about adding the header, not dependent, > just a recommendation. > > Publius Scribonius Scholasticus > > On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 5:25 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > On Thu, 25 May 2

Re: DIS: Sites Progress

2017-05-25 Thread Gaelan Steele
Will do when I get home Gaelan > On May 25, 2017, at 2:25 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > >> On Thu, 25 May 2017, Nic Evans wrote: >> * The original agora front page has been replicated, and is in the process of >> being updated. > > Cool!! > > Do you mind if a top tab for Arbitor (or CotC)

DIS: Re: OFF: [Arbitor] CFJ 3515 assigned to Publius Scribonius Scholasticus

2017-05-25 Thread Gaelan Steele
FYI: I ruled a similar case as TRUE because "action" is undefined. Gaelan > On May 25, 2017, at 4:14 PM, Alex Smith wrote: > >> On Fri, 2017-05-26 at 00:21 +0200, CuddleBeam wrote: >> I pay 1 Shiny to Quazie, fulfilling, if it was ever valid, my Pledge >> appended in the "Call for Piñata" CFJ

Re: DIS: Sites Progress

2017-05-25 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
I could add that, would you think about adding the header, not dependent, just a recommendation. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 5:25 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > On Thu, 25 May 2017, Nic Evans wrote: > > * The original agora front page has been replicated, and is i

Re: DIS: Sites Progress

2017-05-25 Thread CuddleBeam
This is superb and I love it.

DIS: Re: BUS: humble agoran farmer doesn't bribe a judge and then dials 00-JUDGEMENT

2017-05-25 Thread Quazie
Excitingly, this might be the shiny I gave you, maybe, much to o's chagrin. On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 3:21 PM CuddleBeam wrote: > I pay 1 Shiny to Quazie, fulfilling, if it was ever valid, my Pledge > appended in the "Call for Piñata" CFJ (CFJ 3505). (Because they would be > the would-be recipient

Re: DIS: Proto: Agoran Research Funding/Grants/Scholarship/other term

2017-05-25 Thread Alex Smith
On Thu, 2017-05-25 at 21:28 +0200, CuddleBeam wrote: > I also request to be laid off Judging as I'd like to dedicate my efforts > towards writing and nurturing a better system for these activities instead > of hijacking CFJs. Noted. -- ais523

Re: DIS: Sites Progress

2017-05-25 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 25 May 2017, Nic Evans wrote: > * The original agora front page has been replicated, and is in the process of > being updated. Cool!! Do you mind if a top tab for Arbitor (or CotC) goes to my CFJ index? (other option is to replace the lower "other websites" section, but is there a reas

DIS: Research Request

2017-05-25 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
For general public reference and my work on a specific thesis, I would appreciate if people could send me any notes or archives relating to Agora that they have that they would be willing to be made public. I am mainly looking for ones that are not currently public, but if you don't know, I can sor

DIS: Sites Progress

2017-05-25 Thread Nic Evans
I declare, with no authority to do so, that the Github sites are complete enough to be Open for Business. To jump straight to it, here's the front page: https://agoranomic.github.io/ Here's a summary of recent work: * The original agora front page has been replicated, and is in the process of

Re: DIS: Proto: Agoran Research Funding/Grants/Scholarship/other term

2017-05-25 Thread Aris Merchant
On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 1:24 PM, Quazie wrote: > Speaking of GitHub (But more speaking of useful Officer Sites) - Aris do you > have any intention of making an unofficial proposal pool visible to the > masses? Not yet unfortunately. Currently I prepare it manually just before I post it. If I have

Re: DIS: Proto: Agoran Research Funding/Grants/Scholarship/other term

2017-05-25 Thread Quazie
Speaking of GitHub (But more speaking of useful Officer Sites) - Aris do you have any intention of making an unofficial proposal pool visible to the masses? On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 1:20 PM Nic Evans wrote: > On 05/25/2017 03:16 PM, CuddleBeam wrote: > > Wrong forum goddamnit lol. Reposting: > >

Re: DIS: Proto: Agoran Research Funding/Grants/Scholarship/other term

2017-05-25 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
I think that unless people have major problems, we should try it as is with some more activity and anyone wanting to help, I would be willing to try and work with you possibly through agencies and for pay. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 4:21 PM, Nic Evans wrote: >

Re: DIS: Proto: Agoran Research Funding/Grants/Scholarship/other term

2017-05-25 Thread Nic Evans
On 05/25/2017 03:16 PM, CuddleBeam wrote: Wrong forum goddamnit lol. Reposting: We could even sprinkle in some analysis of the game and then the creation of a new-comer sort of guide ("Bill Nye"/"Mythbusters"/"other flavor of informal" style, to better ease in the complexity? Creation of an i

Re: DIS: Trivial Proposals

2017-05-25 Thread Quazie
I disagree - i have a lot of non-controvertial changes that I'm going to be willing to make for 1 Shiny that I don't think deserve a ribbon. On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 12:35 PM Publius Scribonius Scholasticus < p.scribonius.scholasti...@googlemail.com> wrote: > I like the second ribbon change, but b

Re: DIS: Proto: Agoran Research Funding/Grants/Scholarship/other term

2017-05-25 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 25 May 2017, Aris Merchant wrote: > On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 12:47 PM, grok (caleb vines) > wrote: > > On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 2:37 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus > > wrote: > >> > >> I am already trying to do this some with the Herald and I see no need to > >> add a new office, so

Re: Re: DIS: Proto: Agoran Research Funding/Grants/Scholarship/other term

2017-05-25 Thread CuddleBeam
Wrong forum goddamnit lol. Reposting: We could even sprinkle in some analysis of the game and then the creation of a new-comer sort of guide ("Bill Nye"/"Mythbusters"/"other flavor of informal" style, to better ease in the complexity? Creation of an introductory pamphlet of a sort of the game perh

Re: DIS: Proto: Agoran Research Funding/Grants/Scholarship/other term

2017-05-25 Thread Josh T
I support academic themeing as I think it would be an interesting change of pace. Bonus fact: 蘭亭社 makes reference to a famous literati gathering which had influenced Eastern art for centuries. 天火狐 On 25 May 2017 at 16:00, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus < p.scribonius.scholasti...@googlemail.com>

Re: DIS: Proto: Agoran Research Funding/Grants/Scholarship/other term

2017-05-25 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
The Herald traditionally gives interesting historical facts, I just didn't because I just wanted to get a report out there. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 3:58 PM, Aris Merchant < thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 12:47 PM, grok (c

Re: DIS: Proto: Agoran Research Funding/Grants/Scholarship/other term

2017-05-25 Thread Aris Merchant
On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 12:47 PM, grok (caleb vines) wrote: > On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 2:37 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus > wrote: >> >> I am already trying to do this some with the Herald and I see no need to >> add a new office, so I would be happy to take this up informally to go along >>

Re: DIS: Proto: Agoran Research Funding/Grants/Scholarship/other term

2017-05-25 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
I am currently working on a major thesis to analyze Agoran historiography and history, which could be interesting. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 3:47 PM, grok (caleb vines) wrote: > On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 2:37 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus < > p.scribonius.

Re: DIS: Proto: Agoran Research Funding/Grants/Scholarship/other term

2017-05-25 Thread grok (caleb vines)
On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 2:37 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus < p.scribonius.scholasti...@googlemail.com> wrote: > I am already trying to do this some with the Herald and I see no need to > add a new office, so I would be happy to take this up informally to go > along with the Herald. As to the

Re: DIS: Proto: Agoran Research Funding/Grants/Scholarship/other term

2017-05-25 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
If we wanted to dive all in, I would be all for theming this in an academic manner and putting more of an emphasis on scholarship and degrees, I just don't want to do it half way. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 3:40 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > On Thu, 25 May 2017,

Re: DIS: Proto: Agoran Research Funding/Grants/Scholarship/other term

2017-05-25 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 25 May 2017, CuddleBeam wrote: > Rule > University Director: You know, while I think the emerging economy is great and don't want to distract from it, it's been a while since we've had a theme, and the economy is sort of generic as a theme. An elaborated Grants/Departments/schola

Re: DIS: Proto: Agoran Research Funding/Grants/Scholarship/other term

2017-05-25 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
I like that idea, but at the moment I don't understand the Organization system well enough, so if someone else could write up the charter that would be great, but if not I am happy to figure it out. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 3:41 PM, Nic Evans wrote: > On 05/2

Re: DIS: Proto: Agoran Research Funding/Grants/Scholarship/other term

2017-05-25 Thread Nic Evans
On 05/25/2017 02:37 PM, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: As to the funding, we could set this up through donations with a pseudo-trust set up with a pledge. You could also make a real trust with an organization, which could even issue its own stamps as a reward.

Re: DIS: Proto: Agoran Research Funding/Grants/Scholarship/other term

2017-05-25 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
I am already trying to do this some with the Herald and I see no need to add a new office, so I would be happy to take this up informally to go along with the Herald. As to the funding, we could set this up through donations with a pseudo-trust set up with a pledge. Publius Scribonius Scholas

Re: DIS: Trivial Proposals

2017-05-25 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
I like the second ribbon change, but believe Red should be left as is because it can be hard to craft a well-written fix. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 2:53 PM, Quazie wrote: > Proposal: "Trivia(l)" AI = 3 > {{{ > Create a new rule entitled `Trivial Proposals` P

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Sequential Numbering

2017-05-25 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
I like just reenacting the old one as it allows us to further test reenactments. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 2:33 PM, Aris Merchant < thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 10:28 AM, Kerim Aydin > wrote: > > > > > > On Thu, 25 May 2

DIS: Proto: Agoran Research Funding/Grants/Scholarship/other term

2017-05-25 Thread CuddleBeam
AKA: Foster home for deviant topics so that the CFJ system can flow more smoothly for practical purposes. Also, a way to better keep our theses treasures. I'd like to improve the state of our Agoran Library! It's a pity that its been a bit neglected and I'd like to fix that. In light of recent ev

Re: DIS: Re: Re: BUS: CFJ 3509 Judgement (Dismissed, insufficient information)

2017-05-25 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
I have some thoughts for revamping it and I could throw something together, if others share there ideas on what would make it helpful. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 1:41 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > On Thu, 25 May 2017, Alex Smith wrote: > > On Thu, 2017-05-25 at

Re: DIS: Trivial Proposals

2017-05-25 Thread Quazie
Proposal: "Trivia(l)" AI = 3 {{{ Create a new rule entitled `Trivial Proposals` Power=1.1 with the following text {{{ Some proposals have minimal consequences, and thus should cost a minimal amount to pend, these proposals are known as Trivial Proposals. A player may pend a T

Re: DIS: Trivial Proposals

2017-05-25 Thread Quazie
Ah-ha! Thank you for the switch free wording. On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 11:31 AM Aris Merchant < thoughtsoflifeandligh...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 10:38 AM, Quazie wrote: > > Proposal: "Trivia(l)" AI = 1.1 > > {{{ > > Create a new rule entitled `Trivial Proposals` Power=1.1 w

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] Court Gazette

2017-05-25 Thread Gaelan Steele
Fair enough. > On May 25, 2017, at 11:30 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > > > > On Thu, 25 May 2017, Gaelan Steele wrote: >> That format looks fine, although it would be nice if you listed the rule >> number to apply the implication to. >> (Is that the citations?) > > Would putting a symbol n

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Sequential Numbering

2017-05-25 Thread Aris Merchant
On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 10:28 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > On Thu, 25 May 2017, Gaelan Steele wrote: >> I create the proposal “Sequential Numbering” by Gaelan, AI 1: < >> Create the rule “Sequential Numbering,” power 1: { >> >> When the Rulekeepor adds a new rule to the ruleset,

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] Court Gazette

2017-05-25 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 25 May 2017, Gaelan Steele wrote: > That format looks fine, although it would be nice if you listed the rule > number to apply the implication to. > (Is that the citations?) Would putting a symbol next to a rule in Citations be sufficient and not-too hard to scrape (to keep things

Re: DIS: Trivial Proposals

2017-05-25 Thread Aris Merchant
On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 10:38 AM, Quazie wrote: > Proposal: "Trivia(l)" AI = 1.1 > {{{ > Create a new rule entitled `Trivial Proposals` Power=1.1 with the > following text > {{{ > Complexity is a switch, tracked by the Promotor, possessed by > proposals in the Proposal Pool, whose value

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 3489 Judged TRUE by Aris

2017-05-25 Thread Aris Merchant
On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 10:44 AM, Quazie wrote: > So - if this is true, then I believe none of us have ever been paid, as the > payday rule states 'Agora pays' and Agora can't perform an action on its > own. > > I'm pretty worried about that... Not a concern. Part 1 of my opinion says that the pr

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] Court Gazette

2017-05-25 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 25 May 2017, Gaelan Steele wrote: > How does the current CFJ database work? Is it plain HTML, or generated > somehow? If you already have the files used for that, then you could just go > with that. Each case log is stored in an individual file (a single directory): https://faculty.w

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ 3509 Judgement (Dismissed, insufficient information)

2017-05-25 Thread Quazie
On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 11:00 AM Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > On Thu, 25 May 2017, grok (caleb vines) wrote: > > On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 12:35 PM, Kerim Aydin > wrote: > > If you look at Rule 217: > > Rules to the contrary notwithstanding, any rule change that > > wou

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Joining the fun

2017-05-25 Thread Martin Rönsch
I honestly don't remember anymore how i found Agora. I haven been watching relatively close for about a year now and with all the stuff happening right now i thought it's a good time to join. Veggiekeks On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 7:29 PM, Quazie wrote: > How did you find us? > > Why are you here?

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ 3509 Judgement (Dismissed, insufficient information)

2017-05-25 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 25 May 2017, grok (caleb vines) wrote: > On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 12:35 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > If you look at Rule 217: >        Rules to the contrary notwithstanding, any rule change that >        would (1) prevent a person from initiating a formal process to >

Re: DIS: Re: Re: BUS: CFJ 3509 Judgement (Dismissed, insufficient information)

2017-05-25 Thread Gaelan Steele
My bad. Just forgot Gaelan > On May 25, 2017, at 10:32 AM, Josh T wrote: > > @Gaelan: I have expressed a desire to not be referred to by my real name. > While there is nothing in the rules that prevents you from doing so, I shall > glare at you menacingly for ignore my wishes. > > I have go

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] Court Gazette

2017-05-25 Thread Gaelan Steele
How does the current CFJ database work? Is it plain HTML, or generated somehow? If you already have the files used for that, then you could just go with that. That format looks fine, although it would be nice if you listed the rule number to apply the implication to. (Is that the citations?) Al

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] Court Gazette

2017-05-25 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 25 May 2017, Quazie wrote: > CFJ db request: Any way we can add search?  What's your backend look like so > someone might be able to help? > Not being able to search CFJ body text has made it harder to use than some > prior CFJ DBs. I agree. I wrote a rudimentary search script that's

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ 3509 Judgement (Dismissed, insufficient information)

2017-05-25 Thread grok (caleb vines)
On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 12:35 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > If you look at Rule 217: >Rules to the contrary notwithstanding, any rule change that >would (1) prevent a person from initiating a formal process to >resolve matters of controversy, in the reasonable expectation >

DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 3489 Judged TRUE by Aris

2017-05-25 Thread Quazie
So - if this is true, then I believe none of us have ever been paid, as the payday rule states 'Agora pays' and Agora can't perform an action on its own. I'm pretty worried about that... On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 1:40 AM Kerim Aydin wrote: > status: https://faculty.washington.edu/kerim/nomic/case

Re: DIS: Re: Re: BUS: CFJ 3509 Judgement (Dismissed, insufficient information)

2017-05-25 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 25 May 2017, Alex Smith wrote: > On Thu, 2017-05-25 at 14:53 +, Quazie wrote: > > I still think some thing along the lines of: "A judge may recuse emself > > from a case, at which point they become unassigned from said case. When a > > judge recuses emself, or is late to judge a CFJ a

Re: DIS: Trivial Proposals

2017-05-25 Thread Quazie
Proposal: "Trivia(l)" AI = 1.1 {{{ Create a new rule entitled `Trivial Proposals` Power=1.1 with the following text {{{ Complexity is a switch, tracked by the Promotor, possessed by proposals in the Proposal Pool, whose value is either "trivial" or "standard" (default). When a play

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ 3509 Judgement (Dismissed, insufficient information)

2017-05-25 Thread Kerim Aydin
However, since we judge CFJs "at the time of" the CFJ call, I think it *might* be reasonable to say: "I DISMISS this CFJ because pending events means the issue is not ripe, or evidence could not be found, or it is not appropriate to resolve this controversy via CFJ.". As long as it's accompa

Re: DIS: Re: Re: BUS: CFJ 3509 Judgement (Dismissed, insufficient information)

2017-05-25 Thread Josh T
@Gaelan: I have expressed a desire to not be referred to by my real name. While there is nothing in the rules that prevents you from doing so, I shall glare at you menacingly for ignore my wishes. I have gotten the mailing list to accept 天火狐 as my name as of this message, and if everything goes we

Re: DIS: Recusal Proto

2017-05-25 Thread caleb vines
On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 12:28 PM, Quazie wrote: > Proposal: "Recuse me princess" AI=1 > {{{ > Create a new rule entitied 'Recusal' Power = 1 with the following text > {{{ > A judge may recuse emself from a CFJ they are assigned to. > > When a judge recuses emself, the CFJ remains

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] Court Gazette

2017-05-25 Thread Quazie
CFJ db request: Any way we can add search? What's your backend look like so someone might be able to help? Not being able to search CFJ body text has made it harder to use than some prior CFJ DBs. On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 10:24 AM Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > On Thu, 25 May 2017, Gaelan Steele wrot

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Sequential Numbering

2017-05-25 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 25 May 2017, Gaelan Steele wrote: > I create the proposal “Sequential Numbering” by Gaelan, AI 1: < > Create the rule “Sequential Numbering,” power 1: { > > When the Rulekeepor adds a new rule to the ruleset, e SHALL give > it an ID number one higher than the highest e

DIS: Re: BUS: Joining the fun

2017-05-25 Thread Quazie
How did you find us? Why are you here? What the heck is up with all these new players appearing? I LOVE IT! On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 10:25 AM Martin Rönsch wrote: > I register, choosing 'Veggiekeks' as my nickname. >

DIS: Recusal Proto

2017-05-25 Thread Quazie
Proposal: "Recuse me princess" AI=1 {{{ Create a new rule entitied 'Recusal' Power = 1 with the following text {{{ A judge may recuse emself from a CFJ they are assigned to. When a judge recuses emself, the CFJ remains open, and becomes unassigned. A judge SHOULD suggest anoth

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] Court Gazette

2017-05-25 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 25 May 2017, Gaelan Steele wrote: > I'd love if you could place these annotations somewhere my FLR script can > access. > I'll try and send you a file with the old annotations I parsed out from the > FLR tonight. I will; for now I'll put a single index file or page (and may wait until

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] Court Gazette

2017-05-25 Thread Kerim Aydin
On Thu, 25 May 2017, Publius Scribonius Scholasticus wrote: > I disagree with the citation of CFJ 3469, I explicitly found that they could > not be held by non-persons, > but if they were awarded to persons then they exist and must be tracked. The > rest look fine to me and I like the > idea o

Re: DIS: Re: Re: BUS: CFJ 3509 Judgement (Dismissed, insufficient information)

2017-05-25 Thread caleb vines
On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 11:54 AM, CuddleBeam wrote: > @ais523: Super. Thank you! I'll try to make a sufficiently eloquent but also > concise and easy-to-use definition of what kind of cases I find myself more > suitable for, but it's definitely the more philosophical kind, because I will > go

Re: DIS: Re: Re: BUS: CFJ 3509 Judgement (Dismissed, insufficient information)

2017-05-25 Thread Alex Smith
On Thu, 2017-05-25 at 16:58 +, Quazie wrote: > Well bad judgments can be overturned - so the cookie recepies likely > wouldn't stand > > Unless: > > I CFJ on the following statement: > > 'The judge assigned to this CFJ will be kind enough to include eir > favorite cookie recipe in eir ju

Re: DIS: Re: Re: BUS: CFJ 3509 Judgement (Dismissed, insufficient information)

2017-05-25 Thread CuddleBeam
@ais523: Super. Thank you! I'll try to make a sufficiently eloquent but also concise and easy-to-use definition of what kind of cases I find myself more suitable for, but it's definitely the more philosophical kind, because I will go above and beyond to give it a better answer than just "it's irrel

Re: DIS: Re: Re: BUS: CFJ 3509 Judgement (Dismissed, insufficient information)

2017-05-25 Thread Alex Smith
On Thu, 2017-05-25 at 14:53 +, Quazie wrote: > I still think some thing along the lines of: "A judge may recuse emself > from a case, at which point they become unassigned from said case. When a > judge recuses emself, or is late to judge a CFJ and eir cade had been > reassigned, they become in

Re: DIS: Re: Re: BUS: CFJ 3509 Judgement (Dismissed, insufficient information)

2017-05-25 Thread Quazie
I still think some thing along the lines of: "A judge may recuse emself from a case, at which point they become unassigned from said case. When a judge recuses emself, or is late to judge a CFJ and eir cade had been reassigned, they become ineligible to be assigned as a judge for a week" On Thu, Ma

Re: DIS: Re: Re: BUS: CFJ 3509 Judgement (Dismissed, insufficient information)

2017-05-25 Thread Gaelan Steele
Idea: "offer" CFJs instead of assigning them. Have an Agency that lets us accept an offered CFJ, at which point it actually assigns. > On May 25, 2017, at 7:41 AM, Alex Smith wrote: > >> On Thu, 2017-05-25 at 14:20 +0200, CuddleBeam wrote: >> As for removing myself, I believe I am extremely ap

Re: DIS: Re: Re: BUS: CFJ 3509 Judgement (Dismissed, insufficient information)

2017-05-25 Thread Alex Smith
On Thu, 2017-05-25 at 14:45 +, Quazie wrote: > Is it reasonable to request to you not be eligible for certain > judicial subsets? > > Could I ask to be ineligible for CFJs about Card based actions for > example? > - not that I want this, just asking about the concept. I think that's a reasona

Re: DIS: Re: Re: BUS: CFJ 3509 Judgement (Dismissed, insufficient information)

2017-05-25 Thread Quazie
Is it reasonable to request to you not be eligible for certain judicial subsets? Could I ask to be ineligible for CFJs about Card based actions for example? - not that I want this, just asking about the concept. On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 07:42 Alex Smith wrote: > On Thu, 2017-05-25 at 14:20 +0200,

DIS: Re: Re: BUS: CFJ 3509 Judgement (Dismissed, insufficient information)

2017-05-25 Thread Alex Smith
On Thu, 2017-05-25 at 14:20 +0200, CuddleBeam wrote: > As for removing myself, I believe I am extremely appropriate for certain > flavors of CFJ. I wish there was a way I could be assigned mostly those > specifically. If there's a particular sort of CFJ you'd like to focus on, you can let me know,

DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ 3509 Judgement (Dismissed, insufficient information)

2017-05-25 Thread Nicholas Evans
I think you misunderstand Agoran CFJs. The reasoning is more important than the ruling. The purpose to judge DISMISS is to indicate that the judgement doesn't answer any gamestate questions. Ideally, and in most such recent cases, the text of the judgement still provides guidance on what to do if t

DIS: Re: BUS: CFJ 3509 Judgement (Dismissed, insufficient information)

2017-05-25 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
DISMISS should never be used because you are uncomfortable. It is completely fine, we all make mistakes. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 9:10 AM, Gaelan Steele wrote: > I support the motion to reconsider. > > Gaelan > > On May 25, 2017, at 4:37 AM, Publius Scriboniu

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Sequential Numbering

2017-05-25 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
This seems nice and uncontroversial. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 9:25 AM, Gaelan Steele wrote: > I create the proposal “Sequential Numbering” by Gaelan, AI 1: < > > Create the rule “Sequential Numbering,” power 1: { > > When the Rulekeepor adds a new rule to the

Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] Court Gazette

2017-05-25 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
Where should annotations be placed for maximal accessibility? Publius Scribonius Scholasticus On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 9:07 AM, Gaelan Steele wrote: > I'd love if you could place these annotations somewhere my FLR script can > access. I'll try and send you a file with the old annotations I

DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] Court Gazette

2017-05-25 Thread Gaelan Steele
I'd love if you could place these annotations somewhere my FLR script can access. I'll try and send you a file with the old annotations I parsed out from the FLR tonight. Gaelan > On May 25, 2017, at 2:06 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > > [Comments on the below sections welcome. If this is l

DIS: History of Nomic

2017-05-25 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
Are there any writings on the History of Agora Nomic that I exist other than the theses? I am working on a Thesis where it would be helpful. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus

DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] Court Gazette

2017-05-25 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
I disagree with the citation of CFJ 3469, I explicitly found that they could not be held by non-persons, but if they were awarded to persons then they exist and must be tracked. The rest look fine to me and I like the idea of keeping this on the case record. Now that I see what these should look li

Re: DIS: Rule Numbering

2017-05-25 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
G., o, and Aris have all shared my thoughts on the matter, if you do make that change, then I will consider becoming rulekeepor. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 2:51 AM, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > On Wed, 24 May 2017, Gaelan Steele wrote: > > How attached is everyone

Re: DIS: Rule Numbering

2017-05-25 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
I love quaternions in my maths, but for this, the current system must be mantained. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 2:36 AM, Ørjan Johansen wrote: > On Wed, 24 May 2017, Gaelan Steele wrote: > > How attached is everyone to the current rule numbering scheme? I’ve >>

Re: DIS: An essential diff between Agora and Github

2017-05-25 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
GitHub is definitely not the authoritative edition, the authoritative edition is the version sent to the list, the GitHub version is completely informal. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 2:44 AM, Quazie wrote: > So far I have never seen a github artifact proport to b

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: I won't judge CFJ 3509

2017-05-25 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
I would like to take up this case, if no one else wants it. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus On Thu, May 25, 2017 at 2:08 AM, Owen Jacobson wrote: > Stating an intention to break a rule isn’t against the rules. No > infraction, no card. > > -o > > > On May 25, 2017, at 12:34 AM, Quazie wro

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proto: Stamps

2017-05-25 Thread Publius Scribonius Scholasticus
I would be interested. Publius Scribonius Scholasticus On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 11:20 PM, Quazie wrote: > > On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 19:39 Alex Smith wrote: > >> On Wed, 2017-05-24 at 19:08 +, Quazie wrote: >> > Proto Organization: 'Bing Bong' >> > >> > At the beginning of the game of B

DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] Court Gazette

2017-05-25 Thread Josh T
> Question: should implications/citations be included in the case logs? I think it would be a good idea to facilitate looking for things quickly. 天火狐 On 25 May 2017 at 05:06, Kerim Aydin wrote: > > > [Comments on the below sections welcome. If this is liked, I invite > judges to > include i

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