[AFMUG] OT oh, the humanity

On my drive to my shop a few days ago, I noticed a gravel pit had a new conex container with solar panels on top. It is oriented N-S. The container had 4 panels, probably 10’ x 8’ panels. They were stuck up at a pretty steep angle, good for winter. But think about it, a 40’ long container wi

Re: [AFMUG] OT oh, the humanity

Yep, almost half the panel will be in shade in December. From: ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Friday, June 26, 2020 7:36 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: OT oh, the humanity On my drive to my shop a few days ago, I noticed a gravel pit had a new conex container with solar panels on top. It is oriented

[AFMUG] Starlink

Anyone looking into starlink to see if you can partner with them? I heard there may be a way of being a reseller or to lease bandwidth through their system. I'd like to find out more information. -- Steven Kenney Network Operations Manager WaveDirect Telecommunications http://www.wavedirect

Re: [AFMUG] Starlink

We had done some poking around to see about the same thing about 2 months ago. We didn’t find much, but we’d be pretty interested in seeing of this is a possibility. We are wondering if it would be more feasible/cheaper than building out a new tower site for 2-3 subscribers surrounded by tree

Re: [AFMUG] OT oh, the humanity

Ok, So this brings me to another question What if the panels are arranged in a Dish type of layout where the dish tracks the sun. Is that a bad design or am I doing a greater good? I only have 4 panels but could add 6. I am currently looking for a mount for a C-band 12' dish. On 6/26/20 8:4

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Frickin Noobs

I did this with couple cisco switches and a ptp800 link with flawless operation for 4 years and we also had about 100Mbs of internet access to the studio fed by another site. for lossless audio the link has to be perfect and have a stamp of 5x9s of reliability with a measure of fade built into

Re: [AFMUG] Starlink

Anyone worried this could put us out of business? I'm not really because I don't care how hot your signal is, you'll be going over 100KM into space. No way they'll get stable latency. -- Steven Kenney Network Operations Manager WaveDirect Telecommunications http://www.wavedirect.net (519)7

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Frickin Noobs

This path also ran flawlessly for a number of years.  There is definitely an imperfection now that wasn't present before, and it's still eluding me. The point is they CAN have both lossless audio and error correction if they RTFM. On 6/26/2020 10:02 AM, dave wrote: I did this with couple ci

Re: [AFMUG] Starlink

They will have trees and snow to worry about. I am sure it will not be super cheap either. People don’t like antennas on their houses (sorry wisps but I do fiber now). I am not worried, but I was not worried about Covid either... From: Steven Kenney Sent: Friday, June 26, 2020 8:03 AM To: af

Re: [AFMUG] Starlink

Well wouldn't their fade margin be calculated already to be high enough to poke through bad weather? The issue with sat internet is the upload. How many watts are they going to allow each house to broadcast to get into space? -- Steven Kenney Network Operations Manager WaveDirect Telecommu

Re: [AFMUG] Starlink

Snow accumulation on a flat pizza box antenna is not going to be good. Maybe it will have a heater in it. Not sure what frequency they are at but it sure messes with K band and C band TV signals. From: Steven Kenney Sent: Friday, June 26, 2020 8:11 AM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink

Re: [AFMUG] Starlink

Don’t rest on your laurels, -The antenna is not that big, its about 18-20 inches. -Latency is pretty low, below 70ms roundtrip -Speeds would be about 100-500 Mbps to the end user -Fade margin in not that bad with sats being close to the ground. Price of hardware will evantually come down with mas

Re: [AFMUG] Starlink

If they do what they're saying in the press and they price it right, then maybe it'll beat fixed wireless. I still don't know what they're planning to charge for it, and their engineering challenges seem rather daunting to me.  The FCC authorized 2ghz of bandwidth for the downlink.  That sound

Re: [AFMUG] Starlink

if it's all true.  Yes. On 6/26/2020 10:23 AM, Gino A. Villarini wrote: This could disrupt broadband internet as we know it. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Starlink

70 ms is crappy for gaming and voice. Snow accumulation is a real thing here. I can provide 1G to each customer and can go to 2.5 or 10G with a move of a fiber jumper. Just trying to be a cheerleader. From: Gino A. Villarini Sent: Friday, June 26, 2020 8:23 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users

Re: [AFMUG] Starlink

You should be fine Gino, as they only have an English language version and are not planning to roll our Spanish language internet in the foreseeable future... From: Gino A. Villarini Sent: Friday, June 26, 2020 8:23 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink Don’t re

Re: [AFMUG] Starlink

70 ms is fine for gaming and voice. It's just that a 70 ms latency likely has high jitter, which is the real problem. - Mike Hammett Intelligent Computing Solutions Midwest Internet Exchange The Brothers WISP - Original Message - From: ch...@wbmfg.com To: "AnimalFarm

Re: [AFMUG] Starlink

This spy photo seems to indicate that the pizza box will not be horizontal. Probably something to do with the lat/lon and where the train will be passing? The round goobers are base stations (I think). bp On 6/26/2020 7:17 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com

Re: [AFMUG] Starlink

If we are to believe Elon, they are talking 20ms in the beta, and lower thna that when they get a more fully populated constellation. bp On 6/26/2020 7:31 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: 70

Re: [AFMUG] Starlink

One thing that no one is talking about is that this has the potential to provide non-firewalled service to places like China, Russia, and other heavy-handed countries. bp On 6/26/2020 7:31 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] Starlink

Anything over 50 ms is bad for voice. I can detect it down to 20 ms. It interferes with your natural rapid fire speech patterns. But I supposed everyone is so used to cell phones nowadays they have adapted. Nothing quite like geo synch satellite trunking to Alaska. Or HDX HF ship to shore.

Re: [AFMUG] Starlink

This claims OneWeb has demonstrated 32 ms average latency using their LEO satellites: https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2020/06/government-to-splash-500m-on-oneweb-broadband-satellites.html   Says nothing about jitter, tho. Jared     Sent: Friday, June 26, 2020 From: "Bill Prince" To: af@af

Re: [AFMUG] Starlink

If the satellite is directly overhead you have 1.8 ms one way time of flight. From: Bill Prince Sent: Friday, June 26, 2020 8:38 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink If we are to believe Elon, they are talking 20ms in the beta, and lower thna that when they get a more fully pop

Re: [AFMUG] Starlink

Great firewall of Russia? When did that become a thing? Perhaps you were thinking about Cuba or North Korea?   Anyways, it's not like any of those coutries would allow Starlink to operate without adhering to local laws. Jared     Sent: Friday, June 26, 2020 From: "Bill Prince" To: af@af.afmug

Re: [AFMUG] Starlink

According to the interwebs: Similarly, the G.114 recommendation regarding mouth-to-ear delay indicates that most users are "very satisfied" as long as latency does not exceed 200 ms, with an according R of 90+. Codec choice also plays an important role; the highest quality (and highest bandwidt

Re: [AFMUG] Starlink

You realize we only talk on VoIP lines and cell phones right? That's got to be the 150-200 ms range. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 10:50 AM wrote: > According to the interwebs: > > Similarly, the G.114

Re: [AFMUG] Starlink

Yeahbut, I am an old landline and analog trunk guy. From: Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, June 26, 2020 8:56 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink You realize we only talk on VoIP lines and cell phones right? That's got to be the 150-200 ms range. Josh Luthman O

Re: [AFMUG] [ External ] Re: Syncinjector cambium sync with 3ghz 450m

Don’t want to speak for Eric, but I think he means that so far, he is still operating under Part 90 rules, so the EIRP is limited. Once he swaps over to operating under Part 96 (CBRS), he’ll be able to enjoy the higher EIRP limits that these rules allow. Yes, the 3 GHz 450m is capable of operat

Re: [AFMUG] Syncinjector cambium sync with 3ghz 450m

We have installed dozens of these so I wanted to chime in.  First off the difference on connecting up a 5Ghz vs 3.65ghz 450m 5Ghz will use only POE and has an aux port and a SFP port 3.65Ghz has a DC Port with 4pin connector. It also has a main,aux and SFP port. In order for any of them to use sy

Re: [AFMUG] Starlink

I heard OneWeb filed for bankruptcy. bp On 6/26/2020 7:42 AM, fiber...@mail.com wrote: This claims OneWeb has demonstrated 32 ms average latency using their LEO satellites: https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2020/06/government-to-splash-500m-on-oneweb-broadband-satellites.html Says not

[AFMUG] blocked port 53

So I'm off in the mountains and it looks like the sat service is down because someone is blocking port 53. Anyone know of a dns service I could point to on a 1000+ port? -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] blocked port 53

Robert, Couldn't you use one of the new secure DNS servers like clouldflare? Don't they run on different ports? -- Best regards, Markmailto:m...@mailmt.com Myakka Technologies, Inc. www.Myakka.com -- Friday, June 26, 2020, 12:21:34 PM, you wrote: R> So I'm

Re: [AFMUG] blocked port 53

Most of the big public DNS servers also respond to 853 (TLS) I believe. Google advertises that they do. -- Larry Smith lesm...@ecsis.net On Fri June 26 2020 11:31, Mark - Myakka Technologies wrote: > Robert, > > Couldn't you use one of the new secure DNS servers like clouldflare? > Don't they

[AFMUG] OT Unifying dislike

With almost every thought or opinion there will be someone with the opposite preference or opinion. However, one particular feeling might be universally held amongst humans. I am finding I really hate wearing masks during business meetings. I will do it until the virus is no longer a factor, b

Re: [AFMUG] OT Unifying dislike

You can officially count me among the haters of wearing masks. Did it way too much as a kid on the farm when working in dusty environments or with insulation or other items you didn't want to breathe in. The novelty of wearing a mask wore off long ago.. Regards, David Coudron From: AF

Re: [AFMUG] OT Unifying dislike

I've occasionally seen people wearing clear face shields. Not sure if those are effective and/or allowed instead of masks. Kind of like a personal sneeze guard. Now I'm having a mental picture of the aliens in Mars Attacks with their heads exploding inside their space helmets. Whenever I hear t

Re: [AFMUG] Starlink

Yeah, they did file for chapter 11. Obviously that's why the UK government thinks it's a good idea to give them half a *billion* pounds. /s > Sent: Friday, June 26, 2020 > From: "Bill Prince" > To: af@af.afmug.com > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink > > I heard OneWeb filed for bankruptcy. > > > b

Re: [AFMUG] OT Unifying dislike

Just remember Chuck; you're not wearing it for you, you are wearing it out of empathy for your fellow (wo)man. bp On 6/26/2020 9:59 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: With almost every thought or opinion there will be

Re: [AFMUG] OT Unifying dislike

That and "It's a Small World". Gawd, I want to run into a hot lava pit when I hear that. bp On 6/26/2020 10:26 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: I’ve occasionally seen people wearing clear face shields.  Not sur

Re: [AFMUG] OT Unifying dislike

Yeah, I am terribly altruistic. I also thinks it protects me a bit too. From: Bill Prince Sent: Friday, June 26, 2020 11:43 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Unifying dislike Just remember Chuck; you're not wearing it for you, you are wearing it out of empathy for your fellow (

Re: [AFMUG] OT Unifying dislike

Indian love song. Splat. That was one of the all time funniest scenes in a movie ever. From: Bill Prince Sent: Friday, June 26, 2020 11:45 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Unifying dislike That and "It's a Small World". Gawd, I want to run into a hot lava pit when I hear tha

Re: [AFMUG] OT Unifying dislike

Chuck, are these business meetings with your own employees, or outside people? Can you hold the meetings outside and stay 6 feet from each other? Although being outside probably increases the probability of shouting and, if you have allergies, sneezing. Imagine being a nurse/doctor/dentist/etc

Re: [AFMUG] OT Unifying dislike

the irony of the N95 masks with ports is they have the unfiltered low impedance exhaust port, actually "spreads" the disease more since the air velocity is increased. Just call your meeting a protest anyway, then you dont need to wear a mask since this doesnt spread at protests On Fri, Jun 26, 20

Re: [AFMUG] Syncinjector cambium sync with 3ghz 450m

Can I use any SFP for the 450m 3ghz? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 11:45 AM dave wrote: > We have installed dozens of these so I wanted to chime in. > First off the difference on connecting up a 5Ghz vs 3

Re: [AFMUG] Starlink

You better get off the list and into a horse and buggy! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 11:03 AM wrote: > Yeahbut, I am an old landline and analog trunk guy. > > *From:* Josh Luthman > *Sent:* Friday, June 2

Re: [AFMUG] OT Unifying dislike

Sometimes I wonder if low tech masks are efficient germ spreaders. Basically the infected person breathes into/coughs into/sneezes into mask which holds droplets infected with virus. Since the mask doesn’t filter virus sized particles, the mask wearer breathing out is like putting a small fa

Re: [AFMUG] OT Unifying dislike

A mix of both. One part time drafter always wears her mask so we reciprocate. I don’t know how the health care folks do it. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Friday, June 26, 2020 12:25 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Unifying dislike Chuck, are these business meetin

Re: [AFMUG] OT Unifying dislike

They have used the polarized light and florescent sprays to show the mask greatly limits the spread. From: David Coudron Sent: Friday, June 26, 2020 1:25 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Unifying dislike Sometimes I wonder if low tech masks are efficient germ s

Re: [AFMUG] OT Unifying dislike

I can use polarized light and fluorescent sprays to show whatever i choose to show simply by using different sized particulate and exposure period prior to spray. Its a ll a scam, its the chemtrails man, thats where its spreading, the chemtrails people actually believe in that stuff, chemtrails

Re: [AFMUG] OT Unifying dislike

Dang, and I saw some in February too! From: Steve Jones Sent: Friday, June 26, 2020 1:39 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Unifying dislike I can use polarized light and fluorescent sprays to show whatever i choose to show simply by using different sized particula

Re: [AFMUG] OT Unifying dislike

I noticed for the first time today a sign at a fast food drive-thru asking customers in cars to wear masks. I actually would worry more about the money or credit card I am handing them. From: AF On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Friday, June 26, 2020 2:30 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users

Re: [AFMUG] OT Unifying dislike

The studies they've done indicate that in a close environment, a mask reduces probability of your virus' infecting someone from around 17% to around 4%. If you're sneezing and/or coughing, that is probably a whole other matter. bp On 6/26/2020 1

Re: [AFMUG] OT Unifying dislike

So far, the probability of picking up the virus from "objects" is relatively low. There is apparently not enough of a viral load to cause an infection. You need to be in close contact with an infected person for > 15 minutes, and with no masks to get enough of a v

Re: [AFMUG] OT Unifying dislike

link to these "studies" On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 2:59 PM Bill Prince wrote: > The studies they've done indicate that in a close environment, a mask > reduces probability of your virus' infecting someone from around 17% to > around 4%. > > If you're sneezing and/or coughing, that is probably a who

Re: [AFMUG] LED driver

Just do 12vdc :) Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 4:11 PM wrote: > Put 3300 uF caps on the output but still a bit of a flicker. > I cannot find this part anywhere on the interwebs. > Like to send an email to

Re: [AFMUG] OT Unifying dislike

Science News. bp On 6/26/2020 1:07 PM, Steve Jones wrote: link to these "studies" On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 2:59 PM Bill Prince wrote: The studie

Re: [AFMUG] OT Unifying dislike

On 6/26/20 13:07, Steve Jones wrote: link to these "studies" Who needs fancy studies? Get a box fan. Cover the front with some cloth. The air velocity should be different covered vs. uncovered. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] OT Unifying dislike

https://www.mercurynews.com/2020/06/10/coronavirus-8-things-we-got-wrong-at-first-about-the-deadly-pandemic/ bp On 6/26/2020 1:07 PM, Steve Jones wrote: link to these "studies" On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 2:59 PM Bill Pr

Re: [AFMUG] OT Unifying dislike

https://www.sciencenews.org/article/covid-19-coronavirus-why-wearing-masks-controversial bp On 6/26/2020 1:07 PM, Steve Jones wrote: link to these "studies" On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 2:59 PM Bill Prince

Re: [AFMUG] OT Unifying dislike

Yeahbut that’s science. Can’t trust science. From: Bill Prince Sent: Friday, June 26, 2020 2:21 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Unifying dislike https://www.sciencenews.org/article/covid-19-coronavirus-why-wearing-masks-controversial bp On 6/26/2020 1:07 PM, Steve Jones w

Re: [AFMUG] OT Unifying dislike

lol, so 50% efficacy in a wood shop "study" good laughs On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 3:21 PM Bill Prince wrote: > > https://www.sciencenews.org/article/covid-19-coronavirus-why-wearing-masks-controversial > > > bp > > > > On 6/26/2020 1:07 PM, Steve Jones wrote: > > link to these "studies" > > On Fr

Re: [AFMUG] OT Unifying dislike

Right. I put more faith in Kahuna. bp On 6/26/2020 1:32 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Yeahbut that’s science.  Can’t trust science.    From: Bill

Re: [AFMUG] OT Unifying dislike

Well, if I am going to Home Depot or any other place where we have the general public, I want something filtering my incoming air. Something has to be better than nothing. Hope the vaccine happens soon and works. From: Steve Jones Sent: Friday, June 26, 2020 2:32 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwa

Re: [AFMUG] OT Unifying dislike

Recent Studies: Rothe C, Schunk M, Sothmann P, et al. Transmission of 2019-nCoV Infection from an Asymptomatic Contact in Germany. The New England journal of medicine. 2020;382(10):970-971. Zou L, Ruan F, Huang M, et al. SARS-CoV-2 Viral L

Re: [AFMUG] OT Unifying dislike

Kahlua? I keep all my faith in booze On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 3:44 PM Bill Prince wrote: > Right. I put more faith in Kahuna. > > > bp > > > > On 6/26/2020 1:32 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: > > Yeahbut that’s science. Can’t trust science. > > *From:* Bill Prince > *Sent:* Friday, June 26, 2020 2

Re: [AFMUG] OT Unifying dislike

CITATIONS M. Staymates. My stay-at-home lab shows how face coverings can slow the spread of disease. Taking Measure, the official blog of the National Institute of Standards and Technology. June 11, 2020. W. Lyu and G.L. Wehby. Community use of face masks and COVID-

Re: [AFMUG] OT Unifying dislike

I am not looking forward to the looming vaccine controversy. I get a kick out of how many people are refusing it. Its like really? youre refusing something that doesnt exist? And when the first bad reaction happens, OMG the karens will be out in full force. Then there will be the ads "were you or s

Re: [AFMUG] OT Unifying dislike

http://med.stanford.edu/news/all-news/2020/06/stanford-scientists-contribute-to-who-mask-guidelines.html bp On 6/26/2020 1:32 PM, Steve Jones wrote: lol, so 50% efficacy in a wood shop "study" good laughs On Fri, Jun 2

Re: [AFMUG] OT Unifying dislike

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/coronavirus/in-depth/coronavirus-mask/art-20485449 bp On 6/26/2020 1:32 PM, Steve Jones wrote: lol, so 50% efficacy in a wood shop "study" good laughs On Fri, Jun 26, 2020

Re: [AFMUG] OT Unifying dislike

You can throw all the studies you want around, but people who refuse to believe it simply won't. Otherwise it would mean they were wrong and you can't be wrong on the internet anymore, you gotta die on the hill you took. Politicians can't change their minds either because then they're a flip-fl

Re: [AFMUG] OT Unifying dislike

Links in article to conflicting studies https://www.rcreader.com/commentary/masks-dont-work-covid-a-review-of-science-relevant-to-covide-19-social-policy Odd how study results tend to ebb and flow with the political winds. Remember how all the healthcare workers were dying, but now have managed t

Re: [AFMUG] OT Unifying dislike

Oh yeah. I do the rcreader all the time. Voice of authority. lent bp On 6/26/2020 2:04 PM, Steve Jones wrote: Links in article to conflicting studies https://www.rcreader.com/commentary/masks-dont-work-covid-a-review-of-science-rel

Re: [AFMUG] OT Unifying dislike

Most cloth masks with a tight weave fabric are equal to N50. I will find the article and are useful for reducing the distance that virus floats.  From 27 meters to 1 meter. So they do work both ways.  Yes you need to wash them daily.  Masks work even if not as complete as N95 they are so ma

Re: [AFMUG] OT Unifying dislike

Interesting about money.   I have about 8 gallons of 96% alcohol and was wondering about using it to disinfect $$.  So a little research talked about how much better 70% alcohol/30% distilled water was much better to disinfect with.  Turns out that it's because 90+% evaporates before it can do

Re: [AFMUG] OT Unifying dislike

It all boils down to the CDC in the beginning saying not to wear them b/c they were afrain people would exhaust the supply for medical workers. After they changed their mind, then people got confused. Then on top of that you have people insisting their "rights" are

Re: [AFMUG] OT Unifying dislike

Don't use cash. bp On 6/26/2020 2:26 PM, Robert wrote: Interesting about money.   I have about 8 gallons of 96% alcohol and was wondering about using it to disinfect $$.  So a little research talked about how much better 70% alc

Re: [AFMUG] OT Unifying dislike

Or use a sanitizing wipe to handle such surfaces..   In China they say a disposable tissue is enough.   I like the idea of using sanitizing wipes because I feel like I'm leaving the surface more disinfected than I found it. On 6/26/20 2:01 PM, Bill Prince wrote: So far, the probability of pi

Re: [AFMUG] OT Unifying dislike

Yep and this time "die on the hill you took" will actually be true for some percentage... On 6/26/20 2:54 PM, Seth Mattinen wrote: You can throw all the studies you want around, but people who refuse to believe it simply won't. Otherwise it would mean they were wrong and you can't be wrong on

Re: [AFMUG] OT Unifying dislike

Links to studies in article On Fri, Jun 26, 2020, 4:15 PM Bill Prince wrote: > Oh yeah. I do the rcreader all the time. Voice of authority. > > lent > > bp > > > > On 6/26/2020 2:04 PM, Steve Jones wrote: > > Links in article to conflicting studies > > https://www.rcreader.com/commentary/masks-

Re: [AFMUG] OT Unifying dislike

Mask wearing seems to have acquired culture war or political significance, beyond scientific or medical facts. Like wearing a MAGA hat or a BLM shirt or gang colors. So maybe it’s another topic like religion and politics that we need to just walk away from on this list? Although it does

Re: [AFMUG] OT Unifying dislike

I wonder how many in the over 60 crowd refuse masks compared to younger groups. If I was younger I might not be as vigilant too. Sent from my iPhone > On Jun 26, 2020, at 3:42 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote: > >  > Mask wearing seems to have acquired culture war or political significance, > beyond sc

Re: [AFMUG] OT Unifying dislike

I see the opposite, younger people are wearing them more because its trendy like wearing pokemon. 50 plus seem to be less likely to wear them. Older women without tend to have smoker skin, probably figuring the Rona is less concerning than the probable lung cancer growing in their chests. Old farme

Re: [AFMUG] OT Unifying dislike

Young people wear masks because they’re working retail, food service, delivery, etc. and they are required to in order to protect customers and coworkers. When I see the restaurants and bars with outdoor service and none of the customers have masks (and legitimately you can’t eat with a mask

Re: [AFMUG] OT Unifying dislike

The Wife sent me this link today. https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/26/this-chart-shows-the-link-between-restaurant-spending-and-new-coronavirus-cases.html This is the whole causation/correlation question. On 6/26/2020 5:37 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: Wear the mask...stop the spread...our state got wor

Re: [AFMUG] OT Unifying dislike

This 100%. Realize that it’s not all about you - it’s about your fellow humans. Do no harm.. Sent from my iPad > On Jun 26, 2020, at 6:38 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > >  > Wear the mask...stop the spread...our state got worse and today Abbot, a > lackey, closed bars againnever should hav

Re: [AFMUG] OT Unifying dislike

I don’t mind being waited on by Katniss. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Friday, June 26, 2020 4:33 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Unifying dislike Young people wear masks because they’re working retail, food service, delivery, etc. and they are required to in order t

Re: [AFMUG] OT Unifying dislike

Utah opened in 3 phases starting in May. Each phase was accompanied by a corresponding jump in new cases. From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Friday, June 26, 2020 4:37 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Unifying dislike Wear the mask...stop the spread...our state got wors

Re: [AFMUG] OT Unifying dislike

Trump is a her? Draft dodger ? Didn't know. On Fri, Jun 26, 2020, 1:29 PM wrote: > A mix of both. One part time drafter always wears her mask so we > reciprocate. > I don’t know how the health care folks do it. > > *From:* Ken Hohhof > *Sent:* Friday, June 26, 2020 12:25 PM > *To:* 'AnimalFarm

Re: [AFMUG] OT Unifying dislike

Wow, what happened in Arizona? From: Nate Burke Sent: Friday, June 26, 2020 4:41 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Unifying dislike The Wife sent me this link today. https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/26/this-chart-shows-the-link-between-restaurant-spending-and-new-coro

Re: [AFMUG] OT Unifying dislike

Draftswoman. Drafter. GIS Technician. Girl that is learning how to make staking sheets. From: Jaime Solorza Sent: Friday, June 26, 2020 5:05 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Unifying dislike Trump is a her? Draft dodger ? Didn't know. On Fri, Jun 26, 2020,

Re: [AFMUG] OT Unifying dislike

Drafter. Sounds like a cyclist or a NASCAR driver. From: AF On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Friday, June 26, 2020 6:08 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Unifying dislike Draftswoman. Drafter. GIS Technician. Girl that is learning how to make staking s

[AFMUG] pachangas?

So I have one question about this article: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/coronavirus-surge-in-south-and-west-looks- different-from-north-s/ar-BB1615Ph People think it's time for barbecues and pachangas? What is a pachanga? Is it something you barbecue? Seems to be a Texas thing. -- AF

Re: [AFMUG] pachangas?

It's not a Texas thing...it's a Cuban dance, also style of music... Around here we use it as a party time...slang On Fri, Jun 26, 2020, 6:54 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: > So I have one question about this article: > > > https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/coronavirus-surge-in-south-and-west-looks-differe

Re: [AFMUG] Syncinjector cambium sync with 3ghz 450m

If you did I wouldn’t get anything other than extended range temperature SFP. There’s also an activation code included with the SFP kit if I remember that you need. Jon Langeler Michwave Technologies, Inc. > On Jun 26, 2020, at 3:09 PM, Josh Luthman wrote: > >  > Can I use any SFP for the