If they do what they're saying in the press and they price it right, then maybe it'll beat fixed wireless.

I still don't know what they're planning to charge for it, and their engineering challenges seem rather daunting to me.  The FCC authorized 2ghz of bandwidth for the downlink.  That sounds like a lot, but I'd assume that just like us, they can't hit the same exact location with the same channel from two AP's.  So they have to handle frequency coordination between thousands of moving AP's.  I'm fuzzy on what Hughesnet has, but I think between Ka and Ku band's it's around 2.25ghz.  So Starlink has similar bandwidth.

The other thing is we're assuming more satellites = more capacity, but again they have 2ghz of bandwidth for the downlink. I know many of us have seen a big open warehouse or stadium with too many WiFi APs.  Across open space more isn't more.  Their link budget may be better with the shorter range, but they also have smaller antennas, and they have to avoid stepping on themselves somehow (small channels?).

I know they have smart people there, but honestly I don't know. Hughesnet has 600,000 subscribers in the USA and they're famously shitty.  I bet the early adopters of Starlink will be very happy, but the real test will be when they have 600,000 subscribers. Right now I'm impressed and surprised that they think they can do this. If they get to half million subs and still aren't shitty then I promise I'll be suitably impressed by their engineering talent. .....but I'm an eternal doubter.


On 6/26/2020 10:03 AM, Steven Kenney wrote:
Anyone worried this could put us out of business?  I'm not really because I don't care how hot your signal is, you'll be going over 100KM into space.  No way they'll get stable latency.

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*From: *"David Coudron" <david.coud...@advantenon.com>
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We had done some poking around to see about the same thing about 2 months ago.  We didn’t find much, but we’d be pretty interested in seeing of this is a possibility.   We are wondering if it would be more feasible/cheaper than building out a new tower site for 2-3 subscribers surrounded by trees and will be the most the tower will every have on it.   Or if you can make any money on it.

Regards,

David Coudron

*From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of * Steven Kenney
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Anyone looking into starlink to see if you can partner with them?  I heard there may be a way of being a reseller or to lease bandwidth through their system.  I'd like to find out more information.

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WaveDirect Telecommunications
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(519)737-WAVE (9283)


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