You realize we only talk on VoIP lines and cell phones right? That's got to be the 150-200 ms range.
Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 10:50 AM <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: > According to the interwebs: > > Similarly, the G.114 <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G.114> recommendation > regarding mouth-to-ear delay indicates that most users are "very satisfied" > as long as latency does not exceed 200 ms, with an according *R* of 90+. > Codec choice also plays an important role; the highest quality (and highest > bandwidth) codecs like G.711 <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G.711> are > usually configured to incur the least encode-decode latency, so on a > network with sufficient throughput sub-100 ms latencies can be achieved. > G.711 at a bitrate of 64 kbit/s is the encoding method predominantly used > on the public switched telephone network > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_switched_telephone_network>. > > I would not be “very satisfied” at 200ms. I would want to find a land > line at 200 ms. Not sure who they poll for this stuff but I have actually > worked on circuits doing these types of evaluations in the early 1990s. > 100 ms sucks. Once you hit 50 ms I start to lose the ability to detect > latency. At 20 ms nobody can tell. > > *From:* ch...@wbmfg.com > *Sent:* Friday, June 26, 2020 8:42 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Starlink > > If the satellite is directly overhead you have 1.8 ms one way time of > flight. > > *From:* Bill Prince > *Sent:* Friday, June 26, 2020 8:38 AM > *To:* af@af.afmug.com > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Starlink > > > If we are to believe Elon, they are talking 20ms in the beta, and lower > thna that when they get a more fully populated constellation. > > > > bp > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> > > > On 6/26/2020 7:31 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: > > 70 ms is crappy for gaming and voice. > Snow accumulation is a real thing here. > I can provide 1G to each customer and can go to 2.5 or 10G with a move of > a fiber jumper. > > Just trying to be a cheerleader. > > *From:* Gino A. Villarini > *Sent:* Friday, June 26, 2020 8:23 AM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] Starlink > > > Don’t rest on your laurels, > > > > -The antenna is not that big, its about 18-20 inches. > > -Latency is pretty low, below 70ms roundtrip > > -Speeds would be about 100-500 Mbps to the end user > > -Fade margin in not that bad with sats being close to the ground. > > > > Price of hardware will evantually come down with mass volume from Starlink > and other LEO players. 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I'm not really because > I don't care how hot your signal is, you'll be going over 100KM into > space. No way they'll get stable latency. > > > > -- > Steven Kenney > Network Operations Manager > WaveDirect Telecommunications > http://www.wavedirect.net > (519)737-WAVE (9283) > > > ------------------------------ > > *From: *"David Coudron" mailto:david.coud...@advantenon.com > *To: *"af" mailto:af@af.afmug.com > *Sent: *Friday, June 26, 2020 9:56:09 AM > *Subject: *Re: [AFMUG] Starlink > > > > We had done some poking around to see about the same thing about 2 months > ago. We didn’t find much, but we’d be pretty interested in seeing of this > is a possibility. We are wondering if it would be more feasible/cheaper > than building out a new tower site for 2-3 subscribers surrounded by trees > and will be the most the tower will every have on it. Or if you can make > any money on it. > > > > Regards, > > > > David Coudron > > *From:* AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com *On Behalf Of *Steven Kenney > *Sent:* Friday, June 26, 2020 8:48 AM > *To:* af mailto:af@af.afmug.com > *Subject:* [AFMUG] Starlink > > > > Anyone looking into starlink to see if you can partner with them? I heard > there may be a way of being a reseller or to lease bandwidth through their > system. 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