I don’t mind being waited on by Katniss.
From: Ken Hohhof
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2020 4:33 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Unifying dislike
Young people wear masks because they’re working retail, food service, delivery,
etc. and they are required to in order to protect customers and coworkers.
When I see the restaurants and bars with outdoor service and none of the
customers have masks (and legitimately you can’t eat with a mask on) but all
the service people have masks and in many cases gloves, it has an uncomfortable
feel like the servers are a lower class attending to the elites or something.
Like Hunger Games, or apartheid or something. And those servers are much more
at risk than the rest of us, having close contact with lots of people every
day, and with the asymmetric protection a mask affords.
Many other workers face a similar issue if they have to wear PPE but their
customers don’t. Retail, airline, casino, etc. My son went to the dentist the
other day. I guess dentists are seeing customers again. I really need to go.
But I wouldn’t want to be a dentist or dental hygienist right now. I guess you
wear a mask and gloves and eye protection and wipe down the equipment after
each patient and hope none of the patients are asymptomatic spreaders. Like
those unafraid young people.
From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2020 5:14 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Unifying dislike
I see the opposite, younger people are wearing them more because its trendy
like wearing pokemon. 50 plus seem to be less likely to wear them. Older women
without tend to have smoker skin, probably figuring the Rona is less concerning
than the probable lung cancer growing in their chests. Old farmers (most of the
old men around here) run about 90 percent without masks. They probably figure
if 50 years of inhaling pesticides and herbicides didnt kill them, some chinese
flu wont get them, probably on a related note, they likely killed a bunch of
koreans and Japanese in various wars and assume that means they can beat
anything china throws at them.
The worst maskers are the young females, they will follow people around talking
about how the person in front doesn't have a mask on, oblivious to the fact
that if their religion of masks is true, they're getting super exposed to the
germs from the person they're following around, to ignorant to "listen to the
science" that says masks are to stop the wearer from spreading and have little
to no bearing on stopping the wearer from catching it. Probably explains why so
many 20 something females keep coming up positive.
This trend will pass like bedazzling did and the youth maskers will fade out.
I wear my mask everywhere I go, in my pocket.
80 percent of people may have a mask on, but they might as well have it in
their pocket too since they're not wearing them correctly.
On Fri, Jun 26, 2020, 4:53 PM Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote:
I wonder how many in the over 60 crowd refuse masks compared to younger
groups. If I was younger I might not be as vigilant too.
Sent from my iPhone
On Jun 26, 2020, at 3:42 PM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com> wrote:
Mask wearing seems to have acquired culture war or political significance,
beyond scientific or medical facts. Like wearing a MAGA hat or a BLM shirt or
gang colors.
So maybe it’s another topic like religion and politics that we need to just
walk away from on this list?
Although it does factor into our business practices.
From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2020 3:47 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Unifying dislike
Kahlua? I keep all my faith in booze
On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 3:44 PM Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:
Right. I put more faith in Kahuna.
bp<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> On 6/26/2020 1:32 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
Yeahbut that’s science. Can’t trust science.
From: Bill Prince
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2020 2:21 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Unifying dislike
https://www.sciencenews.org/article/covid-19-coronavirus-why-wearing-masks-controversial
bp<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> On 6/26/2020 1:07 PM, Steve Jones wrote:
link to these "studies"
On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 2:59 PM Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com>
wrote:
The studies they've done indicate that in a close environment, a
mask reduces probability of your virus' infecting someone from around 17% to
around 4%.
If you're sneezing and/or coughing, that is probably a whole other
matter.
bp<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> On 6/26/2020 12:25 PM, David Coudron wrote:
Sometimes I wonder if low tech masks are efficient germ
spreaders. Basically the infected person breathes into/coughs into/sneezes
into mask which holds droplets infected with virus. Since the mask doesn’t
filter virus sized particles, the mask wearer breathing out is like putting a
small fan behind an infected surface, spewing micro droplets into the air. If
no mask, larger droplets fall faster rather than float in the air. Similar
to what Steve is saying, but for non-N95 masks. If air is getting in, air is
also getting out through the mask pushing virus out. Seems like the fancy
air diffuser the boss has to make the house smell good, but for virus. No
science behind this at all, just musing 😊
Regards,
David Coudron
From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com On Behalf Of Steve Jones
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2020 2:05 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Unifying dislike
the irony of the N95 masks with ports is they have the unfiltered
low impedance exhaust port, actually "spreads" the disease more since the air
velocity is increased.
Just call your meeting a protest anyway, then you dont need to
wear a mask since this doesnt spread at protests
On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 1:26 PM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com>
wrote:
Chuck, are these business meetings with your own employees, or
outside people? Can you hold the meetings outside and stay 6 feet from each
other? Although being outside probably increases the probability of shouting
and, if you have allergies, sneezing.
Imagine being a nurse/doctor/dentist/etc and wearing one of the
tight-fitting N95 masks (plus probably goggles) for a 12 hour shift, day after
day. The ones that leave marks on your face.
From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2020 1:17 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Unifying dislike
Indian love song. Splat. That was one of the all time
funniest scenes in a movie ever.
From: Bill Prince
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2020 11:45 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Unifying dislike
That and "It's a Small World". Gawd, I want to run into a hot
lava pit when I hear that.
bp<part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> On 6/26/2020 10:26 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote:
I’ve occasionally seen people wearing clear face shields.
Not sure if those are effective and/or allowed instead of masks. Kind of like
a personal sneeze guard. Now I’m having a mental picture of the aliens in Mars
Attacks with their heads exploding inside their space helmets. Whenever I hear
the Kars for Kids song I feel like my head is going to explode.
From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com On Behalf Of David
Coudron
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2020 12:10 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Unifying dislike
You can officially count me among the haters of wearing
masks. Did it way too much as a kid on the farm when working in dusty
environments or with insulation or other items you didn’t want to breathe in.
The novelty of wearing a mask wore off long ago……
Regards,
David Coudron
From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of
ch...@wbmfg.com
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2020 11:59 AM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: [AFMUG] OT Unifying dislike
With almost every thought or opinion there will be someone
with the opposite preference or opinion.
However, one particular feeling might be universally held
amongst humans.
I am finding I really hate wearing masks during business
meetings.
I will do it until the virus is no longer a factor, but I do
not like masks.
I do not like to wear a mask over my mouth and nose.
I am sure someone somewhere would say they do, but that would
be an odd person.
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