Don’t want to speak for Eric, but I think he means that so far, he is still operating under Part 90 rules, so the EIRP is limited.
Once he swaps over to operating under Part 96 (CBRS), he’ll be able to enjoy the higher EIRP limits that these rules allow. Yes, the 3 GHz 450m is capable of operation under either rule part (the old 3.65 Part 90, or the Part 96 CBRS). Matt From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Josh Luthman Sent: Friday, June 26, 2020 9:55 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> Subject: [ External ] Re: [AFMUG] Syncinjector cambium sync with 3ghz 450m 450m is most certainly on CBRS. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 10:04 AM Eric Muehleisen <ericm...@gmail.com<mailto:ericm...@gmail.com>> wrote: hmm. These AP's are not on CBRS yet. So TX power is limited. I wonder if we'll start to see issues once the AP's are cranked up. On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 8:39 AM Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com<mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com>> wrote: It's because of the 100W+ draw. Look at the voltage drop on 18ga over hundreds of feet with the wattage drawn by the 450m. On a shortish cable you're probably ok with the 2x 18gauge. Look at a 300' or 400' cable and compare what 2x 18 gauge does vs 4x 16 gauge. At some point you're only delivering 30ish volts. On 6/26/2020 9:30 AM, Eric Muehleisen wrote: Is there a particular reason why 4 conductors is necessary? We've been only using 2. Pin 1 is positive, Pin 3 is negative. Been working great for months. We use outdoor rated 18 gauge power wire that we use on our ONT's. On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 3:35 PM Josh Baird <joshba...@gmail.com<mailto:joshba...@gmail.com>> wrote: Yes - and some non-standard connector. On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 4:30 PM Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com<mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> wrote: Wait the 450m 3 GHz needs four conductors?! Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 3:15 PM Matt Hopkins <mhopk...@onlinenw.com<mailto:mhopk...@onlinenw.com>> wrote: On the 5GHz 450M you can use one cable for power, sync, and data if you so choose. On the 3GHz 450M you have to use at least 2 cables. One will probably be cat5 for sync and data. Power must have it's own 4 conductor cable. In the RackInjector, you would be providing power over the sync port as well as the power cable but the 450M will ignore the power input from the Cat5. The pic below shows the end result. This is live from one of our towers. Note the current on all the ports is minimal. [cid:image002.png@01D64BA2.DC5743E0] On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 10:38 AM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com<mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote: wont sending POE power to the radio damage the port?, syncinjectors are passive poe On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 12:21 PM Eric Muehleisen <ericm...@gmail.com<mailto:ericm...@gmail.com>> wrote: The RackInjector board naming scheme is confusing. He really needs a table matrix that breaks down what boards support what equipment and what jumpers and power requirements to use. I think this is why he was asking for help on his documentation. Power Injection for Cambium Sync = 450M & 450i. Power Injection + Canopy Sync = ePMP, 450 & 320 To power a 3ghz 450M you'll need a PDU card and a Power Injection for Cambium Sync to provide sync pulse. No PoE on the 3.65ghz 450M. You leave power enabled on the card/ports or sync will not work. 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