Young people wear masks because they’re working retail, food service, delivery, etc. and they are required to in order to protect customers and coworkers.
When I see the restaurants and bars with outdoor service and none of the customers have masks (and legitimately you can’t eat with a mask on) but all the service people have masks and in many cases gloves, it has an uncomfortable feel like the servers are a lower class attending to the elites or something. Like Hunger Games, or apartheid or something. And those servers are much more at risk than the rest of us, having close contact with lots of people every day, and with the asymmetric protection a mask affords. Many other workers face a similar issue if they have to wear PPE but their customers don’t. Retail, airline, casino, etc. My son went to the dentist the other day. I guess dentists are seeing customers again. I really need to go. But I wouldn’t want to be a dentist or dental hygienist right now. I guess you wear a mask and gloves and eye protection and wipe down the equipment after each patient and hope none of the patients are asymptomatic spreaders. Like those unafraid young people. From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Friday, June 26, 2020 5:14 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Unifying dislike I see the opposite, younger people are wearing them more because its trendy like wearing pokemon. 50 plus seem to be less likely to wear them. Older women without tend to have smoker skin, probably figuring the Rona is less concerning than the probable lung cancer growing in their chests. Old farmers (most of the old men around here) run about 90 percent without masks. They probably figure if 50 years of inhaling pesticides and herbicides didnt kill them, some chinese flu wont get them, probably on a related note, they likely killed a bunch of koreans and Japanese in various wars and assume that means they can beat anything china throws at them. The worst maskers are the young females, they will follow people around talking about how the person in front doesn't have a mask on, oblivious to the fact that if their religion of masks is true, they're getting super exposed to the germs from the person they're following around, to ignorant to "listen to the science" that says masks are to stop the wearer from spreading and have little to no bearing on stopping the wearer from catching it. Probably explains why so many 20 something females keep coming up positive. This trend will pass like bedazzling did and the youth maskers will fade out. I wear my mask everywhere I go, in my pocket. 80 percent of people may have a mask on, but they might as well have it in their pocket too since they're not wearing them correctly. On Fri, Jun 26, 2020, 4:53 PM Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> > wrote: I wonder how many in the over 60 crowd refuse masks compared to younger groups. If I was younger I might not be as vigilant too. Sent from my iPhone On Jun 26, 2020, at 3:42 PM, Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com <mailto:af...@kwisp.com> > wrote: Mask wearing seems to have acquired culture war or political significance, beyond scientific or medical facts. Like wearing a MAGA hat or a BLM shirt or gang colors. So maybe it’s another topic like religion and politics that we need to just walk away from on this list? Although it does factor into our business practices. From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Friday, June 26, 2020 3:47 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Unifying dislike Kahlua? I keep all my faith in booze On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 3:44 PM Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com <mailto:part15...@gmail.com> > wrote: Right. I put more faith in Kahuna. bp <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> On 6/26/2020 1:32 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: Yeahbut that’s science. Can’t trust science. From: Bill Prince Sent: Friday, June 26, 2020 2:21 PM To: af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Unifying dislike https://www.sciencenews.org/article/covid-19-coronavirus-why-wearing-masks-controversial bp <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> On 6/26/2020 1:07 PM, Steve Jones wrote: link to these "studies" On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 2:59 PM Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com <mailto:part15...@gmail.com> > wrote: The studies they've done indicate that in a close environment, a mask reduces probability of your virus' infecting someone from around 17% to around 4%. If you're sneezing and/or coughing, that is probably a whole other matter. bp <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> On 6/26/2020 12:25 PM, David Coudron wrote: Sometimes I wonder if low tech masks are efficient germ spreaders. Basically the infected person breathes into/coughs into/sneezes into mask which holds droplets infected with virus. Since the mask doesn’t filter virus sized particles, the mask wearer breathing out is like putting a small fan behind an infected surface, spewing micro droplets into the air. If no mask, larger droplets fall faster rather than float in the air. Similar to what Steve is saying, but for non-N95 masks. If air is getting in, air is also getting out through the mask pushing virus out. Seems like the fancy air diffuser the boss has to make the house smell good, but for virus. No science behind this at all, just musing 😊 Regards, David Coudron From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Friday, June 26, 2020 2:05 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Unifying dislike the irony of the N95 masks with ports is they have the unfiltered low impedance exhaust port, actually "spreads" the disease more since the air velocity is increased. Just call your meeting a protest anyway, then you dont need to wear a mask since this doesnt spread at protests On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 1:26 PM Ken Hohhof <af...@kwisp.com <mailto:af...@kwisp.com> > wrote: Chuck, are these business meetings with your own employees, or outside people? Can you hold the meetings outside and stay 6 feet from each other? Although being outside probably increases the probability of shouting and, if you have allergies, sneezing. Imagine being a nurse/doctor/dentist/etc and wearing one of the tight-fitting N95 masks (plus probably goggles) for a 12 hour shift, day after day. The ones that leave marks on your face. From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> Sent: Friday, June 26, 2020 1:17 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Unifying dislike Indian love song. Splat. That was one of the all time funniest scenes in a movie ever. From: Bill Prince Sent: Friday, June 26, 2020 11:45 AM To: af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Unifying dislike That and "It's a Small World". Gawd, I want to run into a hot lava pit when I hear that. bp <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com> On 6/26/2020 10:26 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: I’ve occasionally seen people wearing clear face shields. Not sure if those are effective and/or allowed instead of masks. Kind of like a personal sneeze guard. Now I’m having a mental picture of the aliens in Mars Attacks with their heads exploding inside their space helmets. Whenever I hear the Kars for Kids song I feel like my head is going to explode. From: AF mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com On Behalf Of David Coudron Sent: Friday, June 26, 2020 12:10 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group mailto:af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Unifying dislike You can officially count me among the haters of wearing masks. Did it way too much as a kid on the farm when working in dusty environments or with insulation or other items you didn’t want to breathe in. The novelty of wearing a mask wore off long ago…… Regards, David Coudron From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com <mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com> > On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> Sent: Friday, June 26, 2020 11:59 AM To: af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com> Subject: [AFMUG] OT Unifying dislike With almost every thought or opinion there will be someone with the opposite preference or opinion. However, one particular feeling might be universally held amongst humans. I am finding I really hate wearing masks during business meetings. I will do it until the virus is no longer a factor, but I do not like masks. I do not like to wear a mask over my mouth and nose. 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