Yeah, they did file for chapter 11. Obviously that's why the UK government 
thinks it's a good idea to give them half a *billion* pounds. /s

> Sent: Friday, June 26, 2020
> From: "Bill Prince" <part15...@gmail.com>
> To: af@af.afmug.com
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink
>
> I heard OneWeb filed for bankruptcy.
> 
> 
> bp
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
> 
> On 6/26/2020 7:42 AM, fiber...@mail.com wrote:
> > This claims OneWeb has demonstrated 32 ms average latency using their LEO 
> > satellites:
> > https://www.ispreview.co.uk/index.php/2020/06/government-to-splash-500m-on-oneweb-broadband-satellites.html
> >   
> > Says nothing about jitter, tho.
> >
> > Jared
> >   
> >   
> >
> > Sent: Friday, June 26, 2020
> > From: "Bill Prince" <part15...@gmail.com>
> > To: af@af.afmug.com
> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink
> > If we are to believe Elon, they are talking 20ms in the beta, and lower 
> > thna that when they get a more fully populated constellation.
> >   
> > bp
> > <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
> >
> >
> > On 6/26/2020 7:31 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com[mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com] wrote:
> >
> > 70 ms is crappy for gaming and voice.
> > Snow accumulation is a real thing here.
> > I can provide 1G to each customer and can go to 2.5 or 10G with a move of a 
> > fiber jumper.
> >   
> > Just trying to be a cheerleader.
> >
> >   
> >
> > From: Gino A. Villarini
> > Sent: Friday, June 26, 2020 8:23 AM
> > To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink
> >   
> >
> > Don’t rest on your laurels,
> >   
> > -The antenna is not that big, its about 18-20 inches.
> > -Latency is pretty low, below 70ms roundtrip
> > -Speeds would be about 100-500 Mbps to the end user
> > -Fade margin in not that bad with sats being close to the ground.
> >   
> > Price of hardware will evantually come down with mass volume from Starlink 
> > and other LEO players.   This could disrupt broadband internet as we know 
> > it.
> >   
> > Gino Villarini
> > Founder/President
> > @gvillarini
> > t: 787.273.4143 Ext. 204
> >   
> > [http://www.aeronetpr.com/][https://www.inc.com/profile/aeronet][https://www.facebook.com/aeronetpr/]
> >  [https://www.instagram.com/aeronetpr/?hl=en] 
> > [https://www.linkedin.com/company/aeronet-broadband-corp] 
> > [https://twitter.com/AeroNetPR?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor]
> >  [https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCr2Q9WBrAYVm3Fn970Jd6VA]  
> > [https://bit.ly/BBoffer1]
> > www.aeronetpr.com[http://www.aeronetpr.com] | Metro Office Park #18 Suite 
> > 304 Guaynabo, PR 00968
> > From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com>[mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] on 
> > behalf of Chuck McCown <ch...@wbmfg.com>[mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com]
> > Reply-To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 
> > <af@af.afmug.com>[mailto:af@af.afmug.com]
> > Date: Friday, June 26, 2020 at 10:08 AM
> > To: af <af@af.afmug.com>[mailto:af@af.afmug.com]
> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink
> >
> >   
> >
> > They will have trees and snow to worry about.
> >
> > I am sure it will not be super cheap either.
> >
> > People don’t like antennas on their houses (sorry wisps but I do fiber now).
> >
> >   
> >
> > I am not worried, but I was not worried about Covid either...
> >
> >   
> >
> > From: Steven Kenney
> >
> > Sent: Friday, June 26, 2020 8:03 AM
> >
> > To: af
> >
> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink
> >
> >   
> >
> > Anyone worried this could put us out of business?  I'm not really because I 
> > don't care how hot your signal is, you'll be going over 100KM into space.  
> > No way they'll get stable latency.
> >
> >   
> >
> > --
> > Steven Kenney
> > Network Operations Manager
> > WaveDirect Telecommunications
> > http://www.wavedirect.net[http://www.wavedirect.net]
> > (519)737-WAVE (9283)
> >
> >   
> >
> > ------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > From: "David Coudron" 
> > <david.coud...@advantenon.com>[mailto:david.coud...@advantenon.com]
> > To: "af" <af@af.afmug.com>[mailto:af@af.afmug.com]
> > Sent: Friday, June 26, 2020 9:56:09 AM
> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Starlink
> >
> >   
> >
> > We had done some poking around to see about the same thing about 2 months 
> > ago.  We didn’t find much, but we’d be pretty interested in seeing of this 
> > is a possibility.   We are wondering if it would be more feasible/cheaper 
> > than building out a new tower site for 2-3 subscribers surrounded by trees 
> > and will be the most the tower will every have on it.   Or if you can make 
> > any money on it.
> >   
> > Regards,
> >   
> > David Coudron
> >
> > From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com>[mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On 
> > Behalf Of Steven Kenney
> > Sent: Friday, June 26, 2020 8:48 AM
> > To: af <af@af.afmug.com>[mailto:af@af.afmug.com]
> > Subject: [AFMUG] Starlink
> >   
> >
> > Anyone looking into starlink to see if you can partner with them?  I heard 
> > there may be a way of being a reseller or to lease bandwidth through their 
> > system.  I'd like to find out more information.
> >
> >   
> >
> > --
> > Steven Kenney
> > Network Operations Manager
> > WaveDirect Telecommunications
> > http://www.wavedirect.net[http://www.wavedirect.net]
> > (519)737-WAVE (9283)
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