Re: [AFMUG] 5.9 extension?

The STA’s for the original applicants were granted with the original letter and could be used with notification to the other license holders in the state. A condition of the grant was that you had to make your own application for the STA under the company name within 10 days. Those applicatio

Re: [AFMUG] 5.9 extension?

And they are beautiful! 8x8 MIMO for our 450m’s On 14 Apr 2020, at 6:25, Mark Radabaugh wrote: The STA’s for the original applicants were granted with the original letter and could be used with notification to the other license holders in the state. A condition of the grant was that you had t

Re: [AFMUG] 5.9 extension?

Some of our 450m’s have seen subtle improvements, others have been more dramatic. Nice to have some breathing room to push AP’s from 20 to 30Mhz channels. Mark > On Apr 14, 2020, at 6:56 AM, Mike Meluskey wrote: > > And they are beautiful! > 8x8 MIMO for our 450m’s > > On 14 Apr 2020, at 6

Re: [AFMUG] 5.9 extension?

Are you anticipating an extension or grant of permanence? On Tue, Apr 14, 2020, 6:58 AM Mark Radabaugh wrote: > Some of our 450m’s have seen subtle improvements, others have been more > dramatic. Nice to have some breathing room to push AP’s from 20 to 30Mhz > channels. > > Mark > > On Apr 14,

Re: [AFMUG] 5.9 extension?

I guess it depends on what “The president of the United States call[ing] the shots” decides on when this is over. The bigger picture at play is this NPRM: https://docs.fcc.gov/public/attachments/DOC-360940A1.pdf The FCC has an open p

Re: [AFMUG] 5.9 extension?

I didnt see these STAs come up in any of the POTUS press conferences. You're saying the oval office is involved in this? On Tue, Apr 14, 2020, 8:18 AM Mark Radabaugh wrote: > I guess it depends on what “The president of the United States call[ing] > the shots” decides on when this is over. > > T

Re: [AFMUG] 5.9 extension?

No, it was a commentary on Potus and his news conference yesterday. Being serious now - if the federal government says we are still in an emergency near the STA’s expiration date I think we are in a good position to request an extension based on conditions being unchanged from the emergency t

Re: [AFMUG] 5.9 extension?

So right now only the original WISPS that filed for the emergency use can operate which we are one of those WISPS and we did file for the STA within 10 days and we did notify the other license holders in the state. Thanks for clarifying Mark. On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 9:41 AM Mark Radabaugh wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] OT: More on COVID

Article singles out 3 major hotspots – Cook County jail in Chicago, USS Theodore Roosevelt, and … Sioux Falls, SD. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/south-dakotas-governor-resisted-ordering-people-to-stay-home-now-it-has-one-of-the-nations-largest-coronavirus-hot-spots/ar-BB12zTcc Clearly no

[AFMUG] OT virus testing

>From Utah: SALT LAKE CITY — Utah health officials said Monday they’re seeing a low demand for testing for the new coronavirus and they don’t know why. “That’s the million-dollar question. We’re really trying to figure out,” said Dr. Angela Dunn, epidemiologist with the Utah Department of Healt

Re: [AFMUG] OT: More on COVID

I believe the new captain took over the TR in Vietnam, also, and the shore leave was approved by the prior captain who is now in charge, again and dealing with the results of his actions... Interesting... On 4/14/20 8:06 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Article singles out 3 major hotspots – Cook County

Re: [AFMUG] OT virus testing

That's some very interesting numbers...   And way interesting is the ability to perform such good testing... On 4/14/20 8:29 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: From Utah: SALT LAKE CITY — Utah health officials said Monday they’re seeing a low demand for testing for the new coronavirus and they don’t k

Re: [AFMUG] OT: More on COVID

The analogy I heard the other day went something like: "It seems that it's OK to pee in some parts of the pool." bp On 4/14/2020 8:06 AM, Ken Hohhof wrote: Article singles out 3 major hotspots – Cook Count

Re: [AFMUG] OT virus testing

Maybe Steve can send his tech to Utah for a test, since he apparently can’t get one locally unless he is obviously infected. From: AF On Behalf Of Robert Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 10:32 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT virus testing That's some very interesting numbers..

Re: [AFMUG] 5.9 extension?

Oh, lol, I thought you were serious. that was a disaster. I like this admin, but I wouldnt be surprised if they has stuck their fingers in this On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 8:41 AM Mark Radabaugh wrote: > No, it was a commentary on Potus and his news conference yesterday. > > Being serious now - if t

Re: [AFMUG] OT: More on COVID

Boom https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8214759/Cuomo-worst-continue-smart.html?ito=facebook_share_article-masthead On Mon, Apr 13, 2020, 3:30 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: > For a house, yes I would install the gas ones. > > > > Way back around 1965-1967 my family lived in Buenos Aires and the ho

Re: [AFMUG] OT: More on COVID

I love this, we house cook county overflow in our jail. We are the trashcan of the big cities, its great On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 10:07 AM Ken Hohhof wrote: > Article singles out 3 major hotspots – Cook County jail in Chicago, USS > Theodore Roosevelt, and … Sioux Falls, SD. > > > https://www.msn

Re: [AFMUG] OT: More on COVID

not really a boom moment, when theyre doing exactly what theyre told. Sometimes in life Ive found the most effective way to get people to do what you want them to do is tell them what to do then let them think it was their idea. holds the added benefit of them having the responsibility fr the conse

Re: [AFMUG] OT: More on COVID

Good analogy. There’s also the old saying “your personal liberty to swing your arm ends where my nose begins”. From: AF On Behalf Of Bill Prince Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 10:38 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: More on COVID The analogy I heard the other day went som

Re: [AFMUG] OT virus testing

At the risk of breaking Lent..   I wish we were the United States instead of the Competing States and Utah could use some of it's excess capacity to help out elsewhere while they don't need it...    Seems a waste to not use that capacity while it's there.   Maybe relax the restrictions and chas

Re: [AFMUG] 5.9 extension?

Not good when you proudly compare yourself to Captain Bligh. At least he didn’t choose Captain Queeg. I was thinking it was his Alexander Haig moment, but Haig kind of got a raw deal, that was just a PR blunder and not a power grab IMHO. From: AF On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Tuesday,

Re: [AFMUG] OT virus testing

you saw what happened with the "united states" on ventilators, every state demanded the feds give them every ventilator whether they need them or not. The feds need to stay completely out of the testing game. its literally the governor of each states responsibility to make sure he has people in pla

Re: [AFMUG] OT virus testing

You and I are going to have to agree to disagree. That would be like every state negotiating their own tariffs internationally. Sorry but United States MEANS coordination at a national level. They should have set up a means to determine need and then sent what wasn't available to nowhere.

Re: [AFMUG] OT virus testing

Lent -Original Message- From: Robert Andrews Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 11:45 AM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT virus testing You and I are going to have to agree to disagree. That would be like every state negotiating their own tariffs internationally. Sorry but Un

Re: [AFMUG] OT virus testing

IT is pretty ridiculous that we can't talk about anything without breaking lent. Stock markets going to crash ... lent Hurricane response ... lent National preparedness for a pandemic ... lent Facts still matter, or at least I think they do, and we should be able to talk about them without gettin

Re: [AFMUG] OT virus testing

I have to agree with Chuck, it is a WISP centric list and we devolve into some pretty nasty talk without constraints... BTDT... On 04/14/2020 11:08 AM, Carl Peterson wrote: IT is pretty ridiculous that we can't talk about anything without breaking lent. Stock markets going to crash ... lent

[AFMUG] Edge Router Options

I am looking to move away from Microtik on my edge. I have two CCR1072-1G-8s+ routers and have had stability problems with random reboots over the last year of using them. I am thinking of the Juniper MX80 platform but do not know anything about their licensing (looking at used ones that I can get

Re: [AFMUG] Edge Router Options

I wouldn't consider MX80 for new deployments. It's RE is ancient at this point, and it's pretty slow. For new Juniper deployments, I would look at the MX204. If you are on a budget, consider a MX104, but it has the same slow PPC-based RE as the MX80, and I would try to avoid it if possible. On

Re: [AFMUG] Edge Router Options

What about Mikrotik on x86? Software you're familiar with and a platform that's proven. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 2:15 PM Gilbert Gutierrez < mailing-li...@phxinternet.com> wrote: > I am looking to mov

Re: [AFMUG] OT virus testing

were you here when i broke afmug? On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 1:09 PM Carl Peterson wrote: > IT is pretty ridiculous that we can't talk about anything without breaking > lent. > > Stock markets going to crash ... lent > Hurricane response ... lent > National preparedness for a pandemic ... lent > >

Re: [AFMUG] Edge Router Options

You mean CHR? Don't think I would deploy Mikrotik on X86 either. All driver development is focused on CHR. On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 2:20 PM Josh Luthman wrote: > What about Mikrotik on x86? Software you're familiar with and a platform > that's proven. > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 >

Re: [AFMUG] Edge Router Options

We are doing a CHR on PVE using x86 servers, not implemented yet but we are in the same boat. On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 11:22 AM Josh Baird wrote: > You mean CHR? Don't think I would deploy Mikrotik on X86 either. All > driver development is focused on CHR. > > On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 2:20 PM

Re: [AFMUG] OT virus testing

You’re claiming all the credit for that? From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 1:18 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT virus testing were you here when i broke afmug? On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 1:09 PM Carl Pet

Re: [AFMUG] OT virus testing

We can always talk about lunch. If you want political discourse there are FB pages that will be happy to host the comments. -Original Message- From: Robert Andrews Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 12:12 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT virus testing I have to agree with C

Re: [AFMUG] OT virus testing

Actually I am assigning all the blame to Steve for that... From: James Howard Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 12:27 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT virus testing You’re claiming all the credit for that? From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of S

Re: [AFMUG] OT virus testing

Yes, I've been here for a long time. Obviously it is Chuck's list and Chuck's rules but I'd argue for being adults about it (Sorry Steve) and avoiding politics while still discussing the real world. As of late it seems that everything has been politicised and to continue lent really limits discus

Re: [AFMUG] Edge Router Options

I would suggest looking seriously at the MX204 platform. New with licensing it’s under 20k (negotiate hard and you can get it closer to 15k). Very powerful without the power, space, and line card expense of the MX80. The only real drawback to them is they are a single routing engine rath

Re: [AFMUG] OT virus testing

i blame jaime On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 1:28 PM James Howard wrote: > You’re claiming all the credit for that? > > > > *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones > *Sent:* Tuesday, April 14, 2020 1:18 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG]

Re: [AFMUG] Edge Router Options

Hum… we must have been typing that at the same time. I will second the ’slow’ comment on the routing engine on the MX80 platform - you will not enjoy the convergence time with that RE unless you are taking very few routes. Mark > On Apr 14, 2020, at 2:19 PM, Josh Baird wrote: > > I wouldn't

Re: [AFMUG] OT virus testing

Unfortunately Chuck said he’s assigning it all to you…….. I kind of thought it was a group effort though. From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 1:29 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT virus testing i blame

Re: [AFMUG] OT virus testing

Lunch is good, but FB is a cesspool. bp On 4/14/2020 11:28 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: We can always talk about lunch. If you want political discourse there are FB pages that will be happy to host the comments. -Original Message- From: Robert Andrews Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 1

Re: [AFMUG] Edge Router Options

I will look into the MX204. Do you have a recommended reseller? I used to have issues with the old 7200vxr multiservice platform running ATM circuits. I don't remember as many issues with the old 7500 series boxes. They did like power though. Gilbert On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 11:30 AM Mark Radabaug

Re: [AFMUG] OT virus testing

The "OT:" prefix should be enough, but perhaps we could make a "LENT:" prefix for the really OT OT subjects. bp On 4/14/2020 11:30 AM, Carl Peterson wrote: Yes, I've been here for a long time.  Obviously it is Chu

Re: [AFMUG] OT virus testing

I can name names of people that are at the polar extremes of political opinion here. If one posts, then the opposite end feels a need to post and then it is never ending. You are right that there is no clean delineation between the world and the world of politics. My facts are tinfoil delusion

Re: [AFMUG] OT virus testing

everybodys always like "be an adult this" and "be an adult that" and here I am, innocently day drinking. next thing you know, some bully is coming up saying, lent this, lent that. I dont even know any more, i just dont know On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 1:34 PM Bill Prince wrote: > Lunch is good, but

Re: [AFMUG] OT virus testing

There are obviously some pretty strong opinions held by a number of people here about politics. It is hard to resist responding to some of the statements that are very much the opposite of your own view. That clearly is the case for both sides. I imagine the people who tend to straddle the fe

Re: [AFMUG] OT virus testing

Who _IS_ the king here? bp On 4/14/2020 11:31 AM, James Howard wrote: Unfortunately Chuck said he’s assigning it all to you……..  I kind of thought it was a group effort though.  

Re: [AFMUG] OT virus testing

FakeBook is a cesspool? What an insult! How could you say something like that?! From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 1:33 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT virus testing Lunch is good, but FB is a cesspool. bp On 4/

Re: [AFMUG] Edge Router Options

CHR is probably a better way to put it than x86, yes. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 2:22 PM Josh Baird wrote: > You mean CHR? Don't think I would deploy Mikrotik on X86 either. All > driver development i

Re: [AFMUG] OT virus testing

on an unrelated note, one of the school districts near me informed me today they achieved 100 percent access for their remote learners. Thats really impressive. They did this themselves over the last year as it turns out. they resolved the last of them with some hotspots. Not every day theres somet

Re: [AFMUG] Edge Router Options

We have used Netrix, Centracomm, and Walker & Associates at various times. Juniper tries to push you to the local territory VAR which usually just pisses me off. You don’t have to buy from the local VAR but you might have to work a little bit on it. Juniper tries to manage the channel a lo

Re: [AFMUG] OT virus testing

No no no. If you must drink Mexican beer, the only choice is Modelo Negra. bp On 4/14/2020 11:38 AM, James Howard wrote: There are obviously some pretty strong opinions held by a number

[AFMUG] EBS status for school districts

If a guy wanted to find out what spectrum is available to a school district, where would the guy start to look? I assume ULS, but I wouldnt know where to begin even -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] OT virus testing

That is a pretty good brag; humble though it be. Pretty sure there are very few school districts in the entire country that could make the same statement. bp On 4/14/2020 11:40 AM, Steve Jones wrote: on an unrelated note, one

Re: [AFMUG] OT virus testing

I disagree. Our local Costco often has Modelo cases and I do not prefer the Negra………. From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 1:44 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT virus testing No no no. If you must drink Mexican beer, the

Re: [AFMUG] OT virus testing

I think as an industry we really need to push that message - that rural kids are largely served. Sure you can find a basket case somewhere, you always can. There is a huge push in DC right now over the ‘Homework Gap’.It’s the ONLY think one FCC commissioner cares about and she has been bea

Re: [AFMUG] EBS status for school districts

Try this and put in your state. https://reboot.fcc.gov/spectrumdashboard/searchMap.seam On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 1:45 PM Steve Jones wrote: > If a guy wanted to find out what spectrum is available to a school > district, where would the guy start to look? I assume ULS, but I > wouldnt know where

Re: [AFMUG] EBS status for school districts

Keep in mind that this band will be auctioned in the coming months. School districts are selling their EBS licenses pretty regularly since the band can legally be owned by commercial entities now. They’re charging a premium for licenses and leases. Comsearch can generate interactive maps showing t

Re: [AFMUG] OT virus testing

Federal government failed ...period On Tue, Apr 14, 2020, 11:31 AM Steve Jones wrote: > you saw what happened with the "united states" on ventilators, every state > demanded the feds give them every ventilator whether they need them or not. > The feds need to stay completely out of the testing g

Re: [AFMUG] OT virus testing

Its beginning to look like there is much less of a homework gap than even I thought On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 1:54 PM Mark Radabaugh wrote: > I think as an industry we really need to push that message - that rural > kids are largely served. Sure you can find a basket case somewhere, you > always

Re: [AFMUG] 5.9 extension?

+1 to the Alexander Haig comment On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 12:23 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: > Not good when you proudly compare yourself to Captain Bligh. At least he > didn’t choose Captain Queeg. I was thinking it was his Alexander Haig > moment, but Haig kind of got a raw deal, that was just a PR b

Re: [AFMUG] Edge Router Options

We buy from Myriad360. On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 2:36 PM Gilbert Gutierrez < mailing-li...@phxinternet.com> wrote: > I will look into the MX204. Do you have a recommended reseller? I used to > have issues with the old 7200vxr multiservice platform running ATM > circuits. I don't remember as many is

Re: [AFMUG] OT virus testing

My daughter, the Jr High science teacher has been told that nobody gets a bad grade. So she has stopped grading papers. From: Bill Prince Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 12:48 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT virus testing That is a pretty good brag; humble though it be. Pretty

Re: [AFMUG] 5.9 extension?

I remember that day. I was fixing a phone in a farm outbuilding. From: Chuck Macenski Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 1:18 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] 5.9 extension? +1 to the Alexander Haig comment On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 12:23 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: Not good

Re: [AFMUG] OT virus testing

It's not popular but Dos Equis Dark on Tap ( maybe because it's a keg ) has always been a favorite of mine...BEER we can always argue about BEER On 04/14/2020 11:38 AM, James Howard wrote: There are obviously some pretty strong opinions held by a number of people here about politics. It is

Re: [AFMUG] OT virus testing

Some of the local districts here have gone to pass/fail which really sucks for the kids trying to get their class rank up to get into better schools. On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 2:40 PM wrote: > My daughter, the Jr High science teacher has been told that nobody gets a > bad grade. So she has stoppe

Re: [AFMUG] OT virus testing

Is adult like alert? As in be alert, the world needs more lerts? From: AF On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 1:37 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT virus testing I can name names of people that are at the polar extremes of political o

Re: [AFMUG] OT virus testing

Here, they're using the quarter grades that post next week for GPA calculation, but the final will be pass/fail. I don't think they've told all the students this; some may be surprised if they thought they'd shore up their grade in the 2nd half of the semester. I think th

Re: [AFMUG] OT virus testing

Where was corona virus when I was in school... From: Jesse DuPont Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 1:54 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT virus testing Here, they're using the quarter grades that post next week for GPA calculation, but the final will be pass/fail. I

Re: [AFMUG] OT virus testing

If he wants the credit, let him have it, or he’ll have to do it again. I’m thinking of another of my dad’s stories when I was a kid. Remember, he was in the food industry. Supposedly at a plant that made sausage or some other ground meat product, several burly guys would literally shovel t

Re: [AFMUG] OT virus testing

Yeah, illinois rules are similar.. its dumb. My kids are at the kitchen table minimum 8 to noon doing school. They're required to complete all assignments before they get freedom for the day, including stuff that's "not due yet" they also have to maintain a c or better. I'm cutting them slack and n

Re: [AFMUG] OT virus testing

All I'm hearing here is do it again On Tue, Apr 14, 2020, 3:08 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: > If he wants the credit, let him have it, or he’ll have to do it again. > I’m thinking of another of my dad’s stories when I was a kid. Remember, he > was in the food industry. > > > > Supposedly at a plant tha

Re: [AFMUG] OT virus testing

So in today's BEER news: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8213855/FIFTY-MILLION-pints-beer-cider-poured-drain-warns-CAMRA.html -Original Message- From: AF On Behalf Of Robert Andrews Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 2:48 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT virus testing

Re: [AFMUG] OT virus testing

Oh, the humanity.. -Original Message- From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 2:20 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT virus testing So in today's BEER news: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8213855/FIFTY-MILLION-pints-beer-cider-poured-drai

Re: [AFMUG] OT virus testing

How else can you demonstrate how it was done? From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 3:11 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT virus testing All I'm hearing here is do it again On Tue, Apr 14, 2020, 3:08 PM Ken

Re: [AFMUG] OT virus testing

I’ve never been to England but how could warm beer possibly spoil? From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 3:21 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT virus testing So in today's BEER news: https://www.dailymail.c

[AFMUG] attn: cambium support

We apparently lost a cap for a EPMP 3000 5 ghz access point in a recent storm. The ports are "taped up" currently. ugh. Anyone know how I can get just a replacement cap?-- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] EBS status for school districts

That's what I'm concerned about. The window is thin to get into it. I know zero about it. Given the current state of affairs, it would be ideal for that auction to halt. We are positioned to partner with districts today and solve any remaining gaps in rural education connectivity. It's going to po

Re: [AFMUG] EBS status for school districts

>From my understanding, the educational entities had to have requested and been assigned a license back when the FCC was issuing them. If they don't currently have a license they're out of luck, as the band is being repurposed for commercial use. On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 6:03 PM Steve Jones wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] Edge Router Options

You may want to consider Arista w/ flexroute for full routes. The 7280SR platform is 48 10G ports + 6 100G ports. Peter Kranz www.UnwiredLtd.com Desk: 510-868-1614 x100 Mobile: 510-207- pkr...@unwiredltd.com From: AF On Beh

[AFMUG] TOWAIR and ASR for existing tower

We have a tower next to a commercial building, I think it's a 45 or 50 ft probably Rohn 45G. It is near a smallish regional airport but pretty much 90 degrees to the runway. We need to swap out the 5 GHz backhaul links on this tower for licensed. The frequency coordinator is telling us that a

Re: [AFMUG] TOWAIR and ASR for existing tower

I doubt it will be much of an issue. It may already be on the approach charts and factored into the airport approaches already even without an ASR. The process will take some time but I wouldn’t expect it to be a big deal. Go to www.airnav.com , look up the airport. S

Re: [AFMUG] TOWAIR and ASR for existing tower

First study up on the allowable tower heights and distances from the runway. If it is in violation just keep your mouth shut. As I recall the slopes are worse off the ends but I have a faulty memory. If you are under the inverted cone with clearance you can file and you will get it, but you m

Re: [AFMUG] TOWAIR and ASR for existing tower

https://hamradioschool.com/g1b01-maximum-antenna-structure-height/ From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 4:47 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: [AFMUG] TOWAIR and ASR for existing tower We have a tower next to a commercial building, I think it’s a 45 or 50 ft probably

Re: [AFMUG] OT: lunch

Well, there can’t be too much shame for a dad that makes his kids do homework. From: Steve Jones Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 5:01 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT: lunch Supper A fine pilsner with choice hops from Pacific northwest as well as noble Saaz hops

Re: [AFMUG] TOWAIR and ASR for existing tower

Part of the ASR is frequency coordination with the airport. As long as you're not actually causing a hazard to air traffic they'll most likely approve it. If they don't approve it, I'm not sure what the process is. However at 45-50 ft, the chances of them caring about the height is so close to

Re: [AFMUG] TOWAIR and ASR for existing tower

If you are farther than 2500’ from the runway you are good. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 4:47 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: [AFMUG] TOWAIR and ASR for existing tower We have a tower next to a commercial building, I think it’s a 45 or 50 ft probably Rohn

Re: [AFMUG] Edge Router Options

As others have mentioned, its really hard to go past the MX204. MX80s could get you started, but if you’re trying to pull down anything more than a default route plus maybe some IX routes, it’ll be like watching paint dry… From: AF On Behalf Of Peter Kranz via AF Sent: Wednesday, 15 April 2020

Re: [AFMUG] TOWAIR and ASR for existing tower

Thanks. Very cool, although lots of information in a language I don’t speak. I don’t think our tower is on the pdf. The ones that are called out are more like 200-400 feet tall. From: AF On Behalf Of Mark Radabaugh Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 6:05 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Gr

Re: [AFMUG] TOWAIR and ASR for existing tower

Those numbers in the link are the ones that determine if you need to check further.This is the procedure design manual https://www.faa.gov/documentLibrary/media/Order/FAA_Order_8260.3D1.pdf It gets very detailed in ho

Re: [AFMUG] TOWAIR and ASR for existing tower

The FAA had a tool to determine if you have to file. https://oeaaa.faa.gov/oeaaa/external/gisTools/gisAction.jsp?action=showNoNoticeRequiredToolForm On Tue, Apr 14, 2020, 5:47 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: > We have a tower next to a commercial building, I think it’s a 45 or 50 ft > probably Rohn 45G. I

Re: [AFMUG] TOWAIR and ASR for existing tower

Unless you are scud running... I Follow Railroads. I don’t do it anymore by my former business partner loved to do this. Scared the crap out of me. So I got an IFR ticket so I never had to do that again. From: Mark Radabaugh Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 5:38 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Us

Re: [AFMUG] TOWAIR and ASR for existing tower

IFR is just a different way to scare the crap out of yourself :-) Mark > On Apr 14, 2020, at 7:47 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: > > Unless you are scud running... I Follow Railroads. > I don’t do it anymore by my former business partner loved to do this. Scared > the crap out of me. So I got a

Re: [AFMUG] TOWAIR and ASR for existing tower

During my years of actually flying in the clouds, I would only do a climb until I was in the sunshine. Then a dive and drive type of let down. I never shot to minimums, never did ILS. Just wanted to fly in the sunshine but not be hampered by overcast. I did come down and pick up a bunch of i

Re: [AFMUG] TOWAIR and ASR for existing tower

I have a TOWAIR report from Micronet, is that the same thing I’d get from that form? It references a 100:1 slope, Chuck’s post seemed to imply 50:1, if he says a 50 ft tower needs to be 2500 ft from the runway. From: AF On Behalf Of Lewis Bergman Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 6:45 PM To: An

[AFMUG] pilot news

Not sure if this is pilot related or violates "Lent". https://www.stltoday.com/news/national/faa-bars-active-pilots-from-taking-ch loroquine-and-hydroxychloroquine-to-prevent-coronavirus/article_bcb7e4d3-21d 0-5391-8228-f1b949c9372d.html Apparently they feel that sudden cardiac arrest of a pil

Re: [AFMUG] TOWAIR and ASR for existing tower

Depends on how far you are away. A steeper angle near the airport. From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 6:02 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TOWAIR and ASR for existing tower I have a TOWAIR report from Micronet, is that the same thing I’d get from th

Re: [AFMUG] TOWAIR and ASR for existing tower

I don't know what that report says. Maybe. I just know if you fill it out it tells you if you have to file a notice (apply for an ASR) The general requirement is 1 foot verticle for every 100 for horizontal off the end of the runway in a fan 30 degrees from the centreline. There is one other fan me

Re: [AFMUG] pilot news

Man, it would suck If .1 percent of bbn pilots had a cardiac event. Better to have them fly on a ventilator On Tue, Apr 14, 2020, 7:12 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: > Not sure if this is pilot related or violates “Lent”. > > > https://www.stltoday.com/news/national/faa-bars-active-pilots-from-taking-

Re: [AFMUG] OT virus testing

I agree! That's a horrible thing to say about a cesspool! On Tue, Apr 14, 2020, 1:39 PM James Howard wrote: > FakeBook is a cesspool? What an insult! How could you say something > like that?! > > > > *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Bill Prince > *Sent:* Tuesday, Ap

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