Oh, the humanity..

-----Original Message----- From: Ken Hohhof
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 2:20 PM
To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group'
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So in today's BEER news:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8213855/FIFTY-MILLION-pints-beer-cider-poured-drain-warns-CAMRA.html


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From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of Robert Andrews
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 2:48 PM
To: af@af.afmug.com
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT virus testing

It's not popular but Dos Equis Dark on Tap ( maybe because it's a keg )
has always been a favorite of mine...    BEER we can always argue about BEER

On 04/14/2020 11:38 AM, James Howard wrote:
There are obviously some pretty strong opinions held by a number of
people here about politics.  It is hard to resist responding to some
of the statements that are very much the opposite of your own view.
That clearly is the case for both sides.  I imagine the people who
tend to straddle the fence probably wonder why it’s such a hot-button
thing for some.

In any case though, it’s just a good thing that Jaime’s Mexican beer
of choice isn’t Corona or we’d really be in trouble……..  (I’ve gotta
say that of all the Mexican beers I’ve had I do prefer Tecate to the
others….  Only had 5 or 6 different brands though)

*From:*AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Carl
Peterson
*Sent:* Tuesday, April 14, 2020 1:30 PM
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Yes, I've been here for a long time.  Obviously it is Chuck's list and
Chuck's rules but I'd argue for being adults about it (Sorry Steve)
and avoiding politics while still discussing the real world.  As of
late it seems that everything has been politicised and to continue
lent really limits discussion.  Before you know it we won't be able to
talk about Tecate because it comes from Mexico or Fries because they are French.

On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 1:19 PM Steve Jones <thatoneguyst...@gmail.com
<mailto:thatoneguyst...@gmail.com>> wrote:

    were you here when i broke afmug?

    On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 1:09 PM Carl Peterson
<cpeter...@portnetworks.com <mailto:cpeter...@portnetworks.com>> wrote:

        IT is pretty ridiculous that we can't talk about anything
        without breaking lent.

        Stock markets going to crash ... lent

        Hurricane response ... lent

        National preparedness for a pandemic ... lent

        Facts still matter, or at least I think they do, and we should
        be able to talk about them without getting all melty about it.

        On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 12:52 PM <ch...@wbmfg.com
        <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:

            Lent

            -----Original Message-----
            From: Robert Andrews
            Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 11:45 AM
            To: af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
            Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT virus testing

            You and I are going to have to agree to disagree.   That
            would be like
            every state negotiating their own tariffs internationally.
              Sorry but
            United States MEANS coordination at a national level.   They
            should have
            set up a means to determine need and then sent what wasn't
            available to
            nowhere.   Come ON there was no prep for this, nothing at a
            national
            level.  Our Federal government has been a joke through all
            this and is
            become more so.   The CDC sent out initial test kits that
            the states had
            to go behind their back to determine that they didn't work.
              The CDC
            had gotten it's pandemic response group removed a year ago.
              Steve, you
            are about to have the worst of the worst in your location.
            I surely
            hope you come out ok, but wouldn't it have been nice to have
            _some_
            national preparedness?

            On 04/14/2020 10:29 AM, Steve Jones wrote:
             > you saw what happened with the "united states" on
            ventilators, every state
             > demanded the feds give them every ventilator whether they
            need them or
             > not. The feds need to stay completely out of the testing
            game. its
             > literally the governor of each states responsibility to
            make sure he has
             > people in place to make sure systems operate and
            communicate up the chain
             >
             >
             > On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 12:09 PM Robert
            <i...@avantwireless.com <mailto:i...@avantwireless.com>
             > <mailto:i...@avantwireless.com
            <mailto:i...@avantwireless.com>>> wrote:
             >
             >     At the risk of breaking Lent..   I wish we were the
            United States
             >     instead of the Competing States and Utah could use
            some of it's
             >     excess capacity to help out elsewhere while they
            don't need it...
             > Seems a waste to not use that capacity while it's there.
              Maybe
             >     relax the restrictions and chase down contacts and
            test to see what
             >     the asymptomatic case profile looks like...
             >
             >     On 4/14/20 8:32 AM, Robert wrote:
             >>     That's some very interesting numbers...   And way
            interesting is
             >>     the ability to perform such good testing...
             >>
             >>     On 4/14/20 8:29 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com
            <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com> <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com
            <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:
             >>>     From Utah:
             >>>     SALT LAKE CITY — Utah health officials said Monday
            they’re seeing
             >>>     a low demand for testing for the new coronavirus
            and they don’t
             >>>     know why.
             >>>     “That’s the million-dollar question. We’re really
            trying to
             >>>     figure out,” said Dr. Angela Dunn, epidemiologist
            with the Utah
             >>>     Department of Health.
             >>>     Utah reported 60 new confirmed cases of COVID-19 on
            Monday — a
             >>>     smaller rise compared to the previous several days.
            The new cases
             >>>     bring the state’s tally up to 2,363 confirmed cases
            out of 45,787
             >>>     people tested.
             >>>     An additional 1,500 people have been tested since
            Sunday,
             >>>     according to the Utah Department of Health. The
            state is capable
             >>>     of administering up to 5,000 tests per day.
             >>>
             >>
             >>
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