IFR is just a different way to scare the crap out of yourself :-)

Mark

> On Apr 14, 2020, at 7:47 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
> 
> Unless you are scud running... I Follow Railroads.  
> I don’t do it anymore by my former business partner loved to do this.  Scared 
> the crap out of me.  So I got an IFR ticket so I never had to do that again.  
>  
> From: Mark Radabaugh <>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 5:38 PM
> To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <>
> Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TOWAIR and ASR for existing tower
>  
> Those numbers in the link are the ones that determine if you need to check 
> further.    This is the procedure design manual  
>  
> https://www.faa.gov/documentLibrary/media/Order/FAA_Order_8260.3D1.pdf 
> <https://www.faa.gov/documentLibrary/media/Order/FAA_Order_8260.3D1.pdf>
>  
> It gets very detailed in how the clearances are determined.   Makes me happy 
> to know the amount of detail that goes into making sure if I follow the 
> procedures while flying in the clouds I don’t run into things.
>  
> Mark
> 
>> On Apr 14, 2020, at 7:08 PM, < <>ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> < 
>> <>ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:
>>  
>>  <>https://hamradioschool.com/g1b01-maximum-antenna-structure-height/ 
>> <https://hamradioschool.com/g1b01-maximum-antenna-structure-height/>
>>  
>> From: Ken Hohhof <>
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 4:47 PM
>> To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <>
>> Subject: [AFMUG] TOWAIR and ASR for existing tower
>>  
>> We have a tower next to a commercial building, I think it’s a 45 or 50 ft 
>> probably Rohn 45G.  It is near a smallish regional airport but pretty much 
>> 90 degrees to the runway.  We need to swap out the 5 GHz backhaul links on 
>> this tower for licensed.
>>  
>> The frequency coordinator is telling us that according to TOWAIR we need to 
>> file for an ASR, I assume they mean not just with the FCC but with the FAA.
>>  
>> By doing so, are we opening Pandora’s box, where they tell us not only is 
>> our request denied, we have to take down the tower that has been there for 
>> 20 years?  Is this one of those things where we will really regret asking 
>> the question and should have just kept quiet and suffered with the 5 GHz 
>> interference?
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