During my years of actually flying in the clouds, I would only do a climb until I was in the sunshine. Then a dive and drive type of let down. I never shot to minimums, never did ILS. Just wanted to fly in the sunshine but not be hampered by overcast. I did come down and pick up a bunch of ice once but for the most part it was uneventful.
Have not been in the clouds in years. From: Mark Radabaugh Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 5:55 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TOWAIR and ASR for existing tower IFR is just a different way to scare the crap out of yourself :-) Mark On Apr 14, 2020, at 7:47 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: Unless you are scud running... I Follow Railroads. I don’t do it anymore by my former business partner loved to do this. Scared the crap out of me. So I got an IFR ticket so I never had to do that again. From: Mark Radabaugh Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 5:38 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] TOWAIR and ASR for existing tower Those numbers in the link are the ones that determine if you need to check further. This is the procedure design manual https://www.faa.gov/documentLibrary/media/Order/FAA_Order_8260.3D1.pdf It gets very detailed in how the clearances are determined. Makes me happy to know the amount of detail that goes into making sure if I follow the procedures while flying in the clouds I don’t run into things. Mark On Apr 14, 2020, at 7:08 PM, <ch...@wbmfg.com> <ch...@wbmfg.com> wrote: https://hamradioschool.com/g1b01-maximum-antenna-structure-height/ From: Ken Hohhof Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 4:47 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: [AFMUG] TOWAIR and ASR for existing tower We have a tower next to a commercial building, I think it’s a 45 or 50 ft probably Rohn 45G. It is near a smallish regional airport but pretty much 90 degrees to the runway. We need to swap out the 5 GHz backhaul links on this tower for licensed. The frequency coordinator is telling us that according to TOWAIR we need to file for an ASR, I assume they mean not just with the FCC but with the FAA. By doing so, are we opening Pandora’s box, where they tell us not only is our request denied, we have to take down the tower that has been there for 20 years? Is this one of those things where we will really regret asking the question and should have just kept quiet and suffered with the 5 GHz interference? ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com
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