everybodys always like "be an adult this" and "be an adult that" and here I
am, innocently day drinking. next thing you know, some bully is coming up
saying, lent this, lent that. I dont even know any more, i just dont know

On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 1:34 PM Bill Prince <part15...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Lunch is good, but FB is a cesspool.
>
>
> bp
> <part15sbs{at}gmail{dot}com>
>
> On 4/14/2020 11:28 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:
> > We can always talk about lunch.
> >
> > If you want political discourse there are FB pages that will be happy
> > to host the comments.
> >
> > -----Original Message----- From: Robert Andrews
> > Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 12:12 PM
> > To: af@af.afmug.com
> > Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT virus testing
> >
> > I have to agree with Chuck, it is a WISP centric list and we devolve
> > into some pretty nasty talk without constraints...  BTDT...
> >
> > On 04/14/2020 11:08 AM, Carl Peterson wrote:
> >> IT is pretty ridiculous that we can't talk about anything without
> >> breaking lent.
> >>
> >> Stock markets going to crash ... lent
> >> Hurricane response ... lent
> >> National preparedness for a pandemic ... lent
> >>
> >> Facts still matter, or at least I think they do, and we should be
> >> able to talk about them without getting all melty about it.
> >>
> >> On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 12:52 PM <ch...@wbmfg.com
> >> <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >>     Lent
> >>
> >>     -----Original Message-----
> >>     From: Robert Andrews
> >>     Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2020 11:45 AM
> >>     To: af@af.afmug.com <mailto:af@af.afmug.com>
> >>     Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT virus testing
> >>
> >>     You and I are going to have to agree to disagree.   That would be
> >> like
> >>     every state negotiating their own tariffs internationally. Sorry but
> >>     United States MEANS coordination at a national level.   They
> >> should have
> >>     set up a means to determine need and then sent what wasn't
> >> available to
> >>     nowhere.   Come ON there was no prep for this, nothing at a national
> >>     level.  Our Federal government has been a joke through all this
> >> and is
> >>     become more so.   The CDC sent out initial test kits that the
> >> states had
> >>     to go behind their back to determine that they didn't work.   The
> >> CDC
> >>     had gotten it's pandemic response group removed a year ago.
> >> Steve, you
> >>     are about to have the worst of the worst in your location. I surely
> >>     hope you come out ok, but wouldn't it have been nice to have _some_
> >>     national preparedness?
> >>
> >>     On 04/14/2020 10:29 AM, Steve Jones wrote:
> >>      > you saw what happened with the "united states" on ventilators,
> >>     every state
> >>      > demanded the feds give them every ventilator whether they need
> >>     them or
> >>      > not. The feds need to stay completely out of the testing game.
> >> its
> >>      > literally the governor of each states responsibility to make sure
> >>     he has
> >>      > people in place to make sure systems operate and communicate up
> >>     the chain
> >>      >
> >>      >
> >>      > On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 12:09 PM Robert <i...@avantwireless.com
> >>     <mailto:i...@avantwireless.com>
> >>      > <mailto:i...@avantwireless.com <mailto:i...@avantwireless.com>>>
> >>     wrote:
> >>      >
> >>      >     At the risk of breaking Lent..   I wish we were the United
> >> States
> >>      >     instead of the Competing States and Utah could use some of
> >> it's
> >>      >     excess capacity to help out elsewhere while they don't need
> >>     it...
> >>      > Seems a waste to not use that capacity while it's there.   Maybe
> >>      >     relax the restrictions and chase down contacts and test to
> >>     see what
> >>      >     the asymptomatic case profile looks like...
> >>      >
> >>      >     On 4/14/20 8:32 AM, Robert wrote:
> >>      >>     That's some very interesting numbers...   And way
> >> interesting is
> >>      >>     the ability to perform such good testing...
> >>      >>
> >>      >>     On 4/14/20 8:29 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com
> >
> >>     <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com <mailto:ch...@wbmfg.com>> wrote:
> >>      >>>     From Utah:
> >>      >>>     SALT LAKE CITY — Utah health officials said Monday they’re
> >>     seeing
> >>      >>>     a low demand for testing for the new coronavirus and
> >> they don’t
> >>      >>>     know why.
> >>      >>>     “That’s the million-dollar question. We’re really trying to
> >>      >>>     figure out,” said Dr. Angela Dunn, epidemiologist with
> >> the Utah
> >>      >>>     Department of Health.
> >>      >>>     Utah reported 60 new confirmed cases of COVID-19 on
> >> Monday — a
> >>      >>>     smaller rise compared to the previous several days. The new
> >>     cases
> >>      >>>     bring the state’s tally up to 2,363 confirmed cases out of
> >>     45,787
> >>      >>>     people tested.
> >>      >>>     An additional 1,500 people have been tested since Sunday,
> >>      >>>     according to the Utah Department of Health. The state is
> >>     capable
> >>      >>>     of administering up to 5,000 tests per day.
> >>      >>>
> >>      >>
> >>      >>
> >>      >
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