Re: [AFMUG] LTE routers.

where are people getting affordable rates. We pretty much only want something for OOB access, but it adds up, or there is barely enough data allowance to commit a command, At minimum we would like OOB control of our UPSs to cycle a hung site On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 10:30 PM Robert wrote: > That'

Re: [AFMUG] LTE routers.

That's a disqual, unfortunately.. On 5/6/20 8:19 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: No...they have models for different carriers...I have four on T-Mobile and the rest on Verizon.. On Wed, May 6, 2020, 6:07 PM Robert > wrote: That's what a lot of my customers are usi

Re: [AFMUG] LTE routers.

No...they have models for different carriers...I have four on T-Mobile and the rest on Verizon.. On Wed, May 6, 2020, 6:07 PM Robert wrote: > That's what a lot of my customers are using, will it work with any sim? > > On 5/6/20 4:11 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: > > I have six in operation...all work

Re: [AFMUG] OT soccer

Awe man! I thought maybe it was something involving a squirrel. From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2020 9:30 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT soccer lol, not, not nut On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 9:13 PM James How

Re: [AFMUG] OT soccer

lol, not, not nut On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 9:13 PM James Howard wrote: > You might be a nerd but what is a nut run? > > > > *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *Steve Jones > *Sent:* Wednesday, May 6, 2020 8:35 PM > *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group > *Subject:* Re: [AF

Re: [AFMUG] 450 software upgrade Path

newer 450i lite AP's have a 20 subscriber limit On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 10:08 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: > One other thing, this isn't a Lite AP (limited to 10 SMs), is it? There > is a bug where enabling SM Auto Update doesn't work until something like > 16.0.1.1. Can be frustrating. > > -Origin

Re: [AFMUG] OT soccer

You might be a nerd but what is a nut run? From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2020 8:35 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT soccer Soccer was about the only sport i was decent at, and only in PE, never really go

Re: [AFMUG] 450 software upgrade Path

One other thing, this isn't a Lite AP (limited to 10 SMs), is it? There is a bug where enabling SM Auto Update doesn't work until something like 16.0.1.1. Can be frustrating. -Original Message- From: AF On Behalf Of Bill Prince Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2020 7:21 PM To: af@af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] 450 software upgrade Path

I would take everything to 15.2 or 16.0.1.1 before going to 16.2. Cambium warns in the release notes that an SM on 15.1.5 or earlier will not register to an AP on 16.1 or later. Probably should do SMs first. I have not had trouble installing a new SM with 16.2 when the AP is still on 15.2., not

[AFMUG] Excited - CnHeat

We have 25 sites processing. Pain in the neck to buy, but well worth it, (our pain was mainly due to migrating a project with data that isnt ours into our company account, site count took a while to clarify, plus i mumble) It really sucks because we have some of our sites in on a project that we di

Re: [AFMUG] OT soccer

No. You can't even touch the ball with your hands. Or was it the goalkeeper, within the box? From: AF On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2020 8:21 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] OT soccer Never been big on soccer. Played a bit in HS just because I could get

Re: [AFMUG] OT soccer

Soccer was about the only sport i was decent at, and only in PE, never really got into the rules much because it was PE. I watch it when i scroll across it on tv, its an endurance sport, thats for sure, balls to the wall for 80 minute, nut run/throw/rest like football. Still dont know the rules in

Re: [AFMUG] OT soccer

I've only ever watched professional soccer to watch them dive and claim injury when someone else comes near so I don't know the rules. They weren't playing something like Aussie rules football were they? The Aussies were originally mostly Irish criminals after all... From: AF [mailto:af-b

Re: [AFMUG] OT square phone

That's a rectangle, not a square... On Wed, May 6, 2020, 8:26 PM James Howard wrote: > An iphone 8? > > > > *From:* AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] *On Behalf Of *ch...@wbmfg.com > *Sent:* Wednesday, May 6, 2020 8:09 PM > *To:* af@af.afmug.com > *Subject:* [AFMUG] OT square phone > > > > Wha

Re: [AFMUG] OT square phone

An iphone 8? From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2020 8:09 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: [AFMUG] OT square phone What is the square root of a negative square phone? Total Control Panel Login

[AFMUG] OT soccer

Never been big on soccer. Played a bit in HS just because I could get as rough as I wanted. That was the only draw for me. But never delved deep into the rules. Watching a TV show just now about some Irish kids playing their football. One of the kids carried the ball quite a ways in his han

Re: [AFMUG] OT square phone

If you are a physicist, this joke does not work for electrical engineers. From: ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2020 7:08 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: OT square phone What is the square root of a negative square phone?-- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/li

[AFMUG] OT square phone

What is the square root of a negative square phone?-- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] OT Is this good?

seriously dude, stop. I have a hard time not engaging and am doing my best, but this thread derailed talk about the tomato juice instead On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 7:41 PM Steven Kenney wrote: > Guys ready to get triggered? https://youtu.be/u4gK3BGggEw > > Plandemic. Give is a watch ALL the way th

Re: [AFMUG] OT lent is good for the soul

Why are there no liberal arts majors on the starship enterprise? They can’t get jobs in the future either... From: ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2020 7:00 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT lent is good for the soul A bartender said we don’t serve time travelers in here. A time trav

Re: [AFMUG] OT lent is good for the soul

A bartender said we don’t serve time travelers in here. A time traveler walked into a bar. From: Steven Kenney Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2020 6:40 PM To: af Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Is this good? Guys ready to get triggered? https://youtu.be/u4gK3BGggEw Plandemic. Give is a watch ALL the wa

Re: [AFMUG] OT Is this good?

Guys ready to get triggered? [ https://youtu.be/u4gK3BGggEw | https://youtu.be/u4gK3BGggEw ] Plandemic. Give is a watch ALL the way through. Interesting take from a different angle. Free to disagree with all of it. But its good to hear all sides. This lady is right a lot about some things. Suc

Re: [AFMUG] the real threat

Attribution... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CPmiXyrJMGQ My memory was pretty good it appears. And some more of the same https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PGPSjB4INU From: ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2020 12:01 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] the rea

Re: [AFMUG] 450 software upgrade Path

I've generally gone to at least the first major version number, as the increment in major version has indicated some serious design change. So taking your example, I would have gone from 13.x, to the first 14.x, then to the first 15.x, then the first 16.x. bp On 5/6/2020 4:20 PM, Nate Burke

Re: [AFMUG] LTE routers.

That's what a lot of my customers are using, will it work with any sim? On 5/6/20 4:11 PM, Jaime Solorza wrote: I have six in operation...all working flawlessly. On Wed, May 6, 2020, 5:10 PM Jaime Solorza > wrote: Cradlepoint...period ...end of story

[AFMUG] 450 software upgrade Path

I think I remember this being discussed before, but I'm not sure. I have some 450 radios ap/sm that are still on Version 13. Can they go straight to 16, or do you need to step through each version? I tested with an SM that was on version 13 and I went straight to version 16 and it was down for

Re: [AFMUG] LTE routers.

I have six in operation...all working flawlessly. On Wed, May 6, 2020, 5:10 PM Jaime Solorza wrote: > Cradlepoint...period ...end of story > > On Wed, May 6, 2020, 2:37 PM Robert Andrews > wrote: > >> I am hunting for an LTE router for travel. I looked at the Mikrotiks >> and was a little disa

Re: [AFMUG] LTE routers.

Cradlepoint...period ...end of story On Wed, May 6, 2020, 2:37 PM Robert Andrews wrote: > I am hunting for an LTE router for travel. I looked at the Mikrotiks > and was a little disappointed in the channel limitations. Anyone made > this chase before and come up with a good answer? I curren

Re: [AFMUG] OT Clamato vs Snappy Tom was: Is this good?

look at canada, taking credit for the bloody mary On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 5:28 PM Ryan Ray wrote: > You guys never had a Caesar before? > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caesar_(cocktail) > > It's a delicious Canadian concoction. The clam juice makes all the > difference compared to tomato juice. >

Re: [AFMUG] OT Clamato vs Snappy Tom was: Is this good?

+1 for the bloody caesar. I was skeptical at first but it really is better than a bloody mary. On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 5:28 PM Ryan Ray wrote: > You guys never had a Caesar before? > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caesar_(cocktail) > > It's a delicious Canadian concoction. The clam juice makes al

Re: [AFMUG] OT Clamato vs Snappy Tom was: Is this good?

You guys never had a Caesar before? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caesar_(cocktail) It's a delicious Canadian concoction. The clam juice makes all the difference compared to tomato juice. Yum. Wish I had one right now. On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 3:17 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: > Apparently Clamato uses

Re: [AFMUG] Elevation question

Lots cheaper than what I am using... -Original Message- From: Dev Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2020 4:06 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Elevation question From their site: $160-325/year, depending if you get the gold plated steering wheel. Anyone gets one le

Re: [AFMUG] OT Clamato vs Snappy Tom was: Is this good?

Yep, that is a good replacement for lunch sometimes. From: Bill Prince Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2020 3:59 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Clamato vs Snappy Tom was: Is this good? V8 makes a spicy version. I really like that one. With or without vodka. bp On 5/6/2020 2:16 PM

Re: [AFMUG] LTE routers.

3G Category R8 (42.2Mbps Downlink, 5.76Mbps Uplink) / R7 (21Mbps Downlinks, 5.76Mbps Uplink) 3G bands2 (1900MHz) / 5 (850MHz) LTE Category4 (150Mbps Downlink, 50Mbps Uplink) LTE FDD bands 2 (1900MHz) / 4 (1700MHz) / 5 (850MHz) / 12 (700MHz) just as an example..   a bunch of channe

Re: [AFMUG] OT Clamato vs Snappy Tom was: Is this good?

Apparently Clamato uses dried clam juice, as well as high fructose corn syrup and MSG, and reconstituted tomato juice. But I found that on a source that has been called into question earlier today, so it’s probably fake news. I’m sure Clamato uses only the freshest and highest quality ingredie

Re: [AFMUG] Elevation question

From their site: $160-325/year, depending if you get the gold plated steering wheel. Anyone gets one let us know how it goes? How much code do you have to build yourself to integrate it in a meaningful way with standard tools widely available? > On May 6, 2020, at 2:48 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrot

Re: [AFMUG] LTE routers.

What channel limitations? Dennis Burgess, Mikrotik Certified Trainer MTCNA, MTCRE, MTCWE, MTCTCE, MTCINE, MTCSE, HE IPv6 Sage, Cambium ePMP Certified Author of "Learn RouterOS- Second Edition" Link Technologies, Inc -- Mikrotik & WISP Support Services Office: 314-735-0270  Website: http://www.

Re: [AFMUG] OT Clamato vs Snappy Tom was: Is this good?

V8 makes a spicy version. I really like that one. With or without vodka. bp On 5/6/2020 2:16 PM, Steve Jones wrote: V8 is an entity unto itself. Time of year matters, you can taste when theyve c

Re: [AFMUG] Elevation question

So what do the plans cost? -Original Message- From: fiber...@mail.com Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2020 3:42 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Elevation question FYI, Trimble has an RTK receiver with a pay-as-you-go plan. The receiver (Trimble Catalyst DA-1) is $300-$400 and with

Re: [AFMUG] Elevation question

FYI, Trimble has an RTK receiver with a pay-as-you-go plan. The receiver (Trimble Catalyst DA-1) is $300-$400 and with that you select a plan according to your accuracy needs: 1 centimeter to 1 meter Plans are available in increments from hourly to yearly. The Catalyst is supposedly fairly good

Re: [AFMUG] OT Clamato vs Snappy Tom was: Is this good?

" I can’t stand V8 any temperature. " thems fightin words On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 4:15 PM Ken Hohhof wrote: > I can’t stand V8 any temperature. Maybe it needs vodka and tabasco. I > can’t think why anything needs clam juice, whatever that is. > > > > > -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http:

Re: [AFMUG] OT Clamato vs Snappy Tom was: Is this good?

> > V8 is an entity unto itself. Time of year matters, you can taste when > theyve cycled he vegetable source. I miss the glass bottles, it tasted > better from them. next is from the quart can, i prefer to open the can and > let it sit open in the fridge for 2 days though, let it breathe. For a >

Re: [AFMUG] OT Clamato vs Snappy Tom was: Is this good?

I can’t stand V8 any temperature. Maybe it needs vodka and tabasco. I can’t think why anything needs clam juice, whatever that is. From: AF On Behalf Of Bill Prince Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2020 4:04 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Clamato vs Snappy Tom was: Is this good?

Re: [AFMUG] OT Is this good?

Shiver goes up my spine and my tongue spasms (from the bleu cheese...) gag. From: Bill Prince Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2020 2:54 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Is this good? I love green olives and bleau cheese mustard on my tuna fish sandwich. bp On 5/6/2020 1:47 PM, James

Re: [AFMUG] OT Clamato vs Snappy Tom was: Is this good?

It doesn’t taste like clams. I told my wife about a week ago it has clam juice in it that is why it has that name. She did not believe me until she read the label. I like it. I like room temp V8 too. From: James Howard Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2020 2:49 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users G

Re: [AFMUG] OT Is this good?

I love green olives and bleau cheese mustard on my tuna fish sandwich. bp On 5/6/2020 1:47 PM, James Howard wrote: I prefer it with peanut butter on it but that tends to get kind

Re: [AFMUG] OT Is this good?

Ah, yes, sorry, the test in SF wasn't just an antibody, it was both. It was an attempt at testing everyone in a district. Very interesting results... Possibly the first in the nation like that. Interesting the results in Bolinas... https://www.sfgate.com/news/editorspicks/article/90-of-p

Re: [AFMUG] OT Is this good?

And unfortunately it's not a market we get to decide weather we want to participate in it. Hence MY anxiety, I am and always have been an escape artist. When the going gets tough I have always been able to escape and reinvent myself and those around me. I don't think I get to this time.

Re: [AFMUG] OT Is this good?

Clamato is good but Snappy Tom is better. From: Steve Jones Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2020 2:39 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Is this good? rural hospitals transfer all serious patients to urban hospitals thats how the emergency/long term care is structured

Re: [AFMUG] OT Is this good?

rural hospitals transfer all serious patients to urban hospitals thats how the emergency/long term care is structured I heard that clamato is good, but ive never tried it. im not big on those sandwich on top one, either drink or eat, that the way i look at it On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 3:35 PM Carl

Re: [AFMUG] OT Is this good?

Rural hospitals are increasingly going out of business. bp On 5/6/2020 1:35 PM, Carl Peterson wrote: The Future:  Rural hospitals are going to be overloaded.  I just can't see any way around that.  

[AFMUG] LTE routers.

I am hunting for an LTE router for travel. I looked at the Mikrotiks and was a little disappointed in the channel limitations. Anyone made this chase before and come up with a good answer? I currently have sims for Verizon, Sprint, and OTR mobile... ORT is currently T-Mobile... -- AF ma

Re: [AFMUG] OT Is this good?

The Future: Rural hospitals are going to be overloaded. I just can't see any way around that. Also, UI earnings should be coming out soon. Might see some nice squeeze action. I'm looking for a squeeze to 250. Looks like someone, I'd guess UBNT, was buying up everything under ~135 through the

Re: [AFMUG] OT Is this good?

I took one blue, one red, and one purple to even it all out. bp On 5/6/2020 1:14 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: I took the blue pill, so not interested in objective reality... -Original Message- From: Robert Andrews Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2020 2:12 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AF

Re: [AFMUG] Dumb question

its the combination +3 On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 3:18 PM wrote: > I am guessing it is adding them together. > > Yep, I just converted them to milliwatts, added them and converted back. > -53.46 is what I got. So they are rounding a bit different than I would > but this is truly a sum of the energy

Re: [AFMUG] OT Is this good?

One of the biggest questions I have through all of this i about the celery. I like light pepper and mild horseradish, not too much Worcestershire, at least 3 olives, a drop of pickle juice, dont bother without celery salt. but the celery, do you primarily use it as a stirrer or do you eat it? On W

Re: [AFMUG] OT Is this good?

I also will observe Lent on this line of discussion but do want to point out that the antibody test is those who have theoretically already had it. Was it an antibody test in that you SF that you quoted 2% for below? If so, that is a different story. Yes, I agree that the 3k tested leaves a m

Re: [AFMUG] OT Is this good?

When you are looking at the graph of a stock, and you have a position in that stock, that is always the question you are trying to answer... We are all staring at graphs and trying to predict the future... -Original Message- From: Robert Andrews Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2020 2:16 PM To:

Re: [AFMUG] OT Is this good?

Or like the main stream media does.. tell the same lie over and over again and people will believe it to be true. Like the lethality of this virus. -- Steven Kenney Network Operations Manager WaveDirect Telecommunications http://www.wavedirect.net (519)737-WAVE (9283) From: "Robert Andre

Re: [AFMUG] OT Is this good?

i went to abate when it opened at altemont. wa like 17, got really drunk, saw lots of lady parts, good times http://www.abate.org/ On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 3:13 PM Robert Andrews wrote: > I will abate from any other discussion of this, but I do need to point > out that there is _evidence_ of what

Re: [AFMUG] Dumb question

I am guessing it is adding them together. Yep, I just converted them to milliwatts, added them and converted back. -53.46 is what I got. So they are rounding a bit different than I would but this is truly a sum of the energy from both polarizations. From: Sam Lambie Sent: Wednesday, May

Re: [AFMUG] OT Is this good?

Buy or sell or hold? On 05/06/2020 11:20 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: I promise, at some point in the future, we will be able to gauge how appropriate the response was. Should I buy or should I sell? *From:* Steven Kenney *Sent:* Wednesday, May 6, 2020 12:18 PM *To:* af *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] OT

Re: [AFMUG] OT Is this good?

Very well put. On 05/06/2020 12:45 PM, Steven Kenney wrote: This isn't pointed at you, its just a frustration I have. I don't like how someone has an opposing viewpoint and automatically "labels" are thrown around like "alt-right" and "far left". Are there people out there that are capable o

Re: [AFMUG] OT Is this good?

I took the blue pill, so not interested in objective reality... -Original Message- From: Robert Andrews Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2020 2:12 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Is this good? I will abate from any other discussion of this, but I do need to point out that there i

[AFMUG] Dumb question

When reading the AP evaluation on a Medusa, or just about any dual polar radio, how would I interpret it?Beacon Receive Power: -53.5 (-57.0 V / -56.0 H) dBm It's not an average of both the V/H signals, so what are these values supposed to mean? -- -- *Sam Lambie* Taosnet Wireless Tech. 575-758

Re: [AFMUG] OT Is this good?

I will abate from any other discussion of this, but I do need to point out that there is _evidence_ of what I quoted. NOT munged numbers put forth to further an agenda. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/23/nyregion/coronavirus-antibodies-test-ny.html Yes Antibody tests on 3 thousand people are

Re: [AFMUG] OT Is this good?

I just had the MMR vaccination. So consider me a test case as of today. On 05/06/2020 12:25 PM, James Howard wrote: I also know a person (worked with him at a previous job) that was infected with polio through the vaccine (he was born in the mid 60’s I believe). He walked kind of funny but ap

Re: [AFMUG] OT Is this good?

Well if one thing isn't a fact then obviously I wouldn't take the rest of them as FACT either. Way too many FACT's being spewed around that aren't. Exactly that guilty by association. Propaganda IS the art of putting just enough facts in with LIES to make the LIES seem to be FACTS. I be

Re: [AFMUG] OT Is this good?

Yep, me too. prior to seeing it, i was a telescope and electronics kid. Told everybody i wanted to be an astronaut. I dont think i used my starcharts and telescope again after. little kids are weird fuckers On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 2:47 PM Steven Kenney wrote: > I was watching it live when it happ

Re: [AFMUG] OT Is this good?

I was watching it live when it happened. It was a huge empty feeling after that happened. To me it really was the death of the space program. Since then its been all downhill other than a couple good mars rovers. -- Steven Kenney Network Operations Manager WaveDirect Telecommunications http

Re: [AFMUG] OT Is this good?

This isn't pointed at you, its just a frustration I have. I don't like how someone has an opposing viewpoint and automatically "labels" are thrown around like "alt-right" and "far left". Are there people out there that are capable of a wide range of thought? Labeling people like this is disres

Re: [AFMUG] OT Is this good?

The Challenger cause was a very deep dive into the psyche of NASA. Apollo was a group of engineers that had their roots in WWII and the kind of engineering that grew out of that rapid rush to jump ahead. The Shuttle was the next generation of engineers cross bred with a government learning how

Re: [AFMUG] OT Is this good?

Yeah, I agree. I actually started this thread with my semi daily posting of the graph. But yeah, I am sick of endless arguing factoids. Let’s move on... From: James Howard Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2020 1:33 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT Is this good? I’v

Re: [AFMUG] Elevation question

No, they say that your XYZ error at a specific time is such and such. You can post process the data and correct it or you can have the real time on line correction if your receiver is set up for it. The closer you are to one of their stations the better your correction will be. From: Josh L

Re: [AFMUG] OT Is this good?

I’ve read all your posts. You have consistently ignored things that don’t fit with what you believe. NYC was testing NOBODY except suspected cases who either had symptoms or had been in direct contact with confirmed cases. Only 20% of the SUSPECTED cases were coming back positive. This is NOT

Re: [AFMUG] SFP and packet loss

I'd comfortably say there's always something and you never know what the problem is until it's fixed. I have little faith in the error counters on Tik interfaces myself - when it says 0 you just don't know if it's working or it's a good link. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343

Re: [AFMUG] OT Is this good?

"I don't know anybody, so it's false" Oh that is amazing science. Be very very happy you don't know anybody. I've got one friend who's next door neighbor died. And he got it (not from the next door neighbor), and he has a wife that is at risk. And he has another friend that wasn't next d

Re: [AFMUG] SFP and packet loss

I have a workaround in place.  I don't help solving this problem.  I was more curious whether it's typical/possible/expected to have unreported errors on an SFP port. In this case, one side is a CCR1009, the other is a Signamax industrial switch.  They both certainly have error counters on the

Re: [AFMUG] OT Is this good?

So all the other facts are guilty by association? Get out of your comfort level and get your head out of the sand. Stop listening to what people are telling you. Look at all sides of every argument no matter how far fetched. Usually somewhere in the middle is the truth. Not the truth others ar

Re: [AFMUG] OT Is this good?

I also think it's important to realize where we are in this whole mess. They just tested, extensively, an area in the Mission district in SF and released the data yesterday. 2% infection rate mostly in the Latinix population. To understand what goes on with this you need to understand that

Re: [AFMUG] OT Is this good?

Absolutely. The prior generation was driven by what they witnessed. The latter generation aw their dreams crushed and their government give up.Which is odd, because the prior generation drove the decisions made after the challenger. It may have been that their sails didnt just have the wind taken,

Re: [AFMUG] OT Is this good?

My brother's class got to watch the Challenger launch live on TV during school.  He would have been 11 years old (I was 4).  The way my brother tells it, early in the launch the kid next to him leaned over and whispered "Hey, wouldn't it be funny if the shuttle blew up!" Apparently no, it was

Re: [AFMUG] OT Is this good?

You are the scum of the earth if you are a wikipedia editor. Consensus reality.. brought to you by mainly extremely authoritarian and narrow minded nerds. -- Steven Kenney Network Operations Manager WaveDirect Telecommunications http://www.wavedirect.net (519)737-WAVE (9283) From: "Stev

Re: [AFMUG] SFP and packet loss

Light levels? What kind of switch, is it counting anything besides packet count/size/frame size? Link up/down? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 2:22 PM Adam Moffett wrote: > Each event is 8-10 spurts of pack

Re: [AFMUG] OT Is this good?

I grew up in the late stages of the polio epidemic, which lasted for over 20 years (from roughly the beginning of the depression in 1929 until the early 50s when the vaccines came out). We have several relatives who were infected with polio as young children and/or infants. We also know at leas

Re: [AFMUG] OT Is this good?

I was on the way to work. About a month earlier I had gotten my Satellite TV antenna working. I had a friend staying with me at the time and I had tuned him into the direct NASA feed ( before any censorship on satellites ) and he had watched the whole thing at perfect resolution for the time

Re: [AFMUG] OT Is this good?

unless you ignore everything else in the article and read the last line after a drink or two: https://cvi.asm.org/content/17/12/1875 "Delineation of the relative importance of IgA antibodies in nasal secretions and serum IgG antibodies as immune correlates of protection against infection with HCo

Re: [AFMUG] OT Is this good?

I agree with that view of Wikipedia. It allows anyone to edit, and pretty much anyone can correct if they find factual discrepancies. It's not perfect, but if you have facts, you can putt hem in there. bp On 5/6/2020 12:08 PM, Ken Hohhof wrote:

Re: [AFMUG] Elevation question

So what information comes out of these ODOT garages, the geoid information? Their devices get GPS and with the x, y the ODOT gives them the z? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 2:17 PM Brian Webster wrote: > J

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I think that those two events seriously altered the attitude of their respective generations. Thoughts? On 05/06/2020 11:00 AM, Steve Jones wrote: I would have loved to have grown up during that time, i grew up with the challenger, quite a different feel On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 12:50 PM

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Overall lethality across all age groups of .2% does not do any good when you are trying to keep alive an at-risk group. Unless you are ADVOCATING just going out and starting to shoot everyone in our elderly health care facilities. Which looks like the way that you are back-handedly arguing.

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Wikipedia is like Soylent Green … it’s people. Essentially crowd sourced. So bad actors can plant bad stuff, but often somebody else corrects it within minutes. So I’m not sure what it means to say Wikipedia isn’t neutral. I guess the other thing is Wikipedia authors and editors are encourag

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I have seen them swinging both left and right. The main issue is that the alt-right seems to have issues with facts. I'm not religious, so I could give a shit about lent. bp On 5/6/2020 11:51 AM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote:

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#4 is patently FALSE. And the fact that it is included makes the rest of the statements completely suspect. Yeah this is another ( like it says in the title ) propaganda piece. Prior coronaviruses generate NO immunity to this coronavirus. And the other numbers on the asymptomatic percen

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look at the changelog for fascism at wikipedia. Its a shame too, wikipedia used to be one of the most reliable sources for quick and dirty info. now it takes a grain of salt. I used to donate when they did their donate popup On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 1:52 PM wrote: > This is starting to get into le

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This is starting to get into lent. I will say, the snopes articles that I have researched after being told they were biased, were slightly biased. Just slightly but I did not consider them as fair and balanced as they would like people to believe. I used to really enjoy and use snopes. Bu

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you havent been to snopes in some time, have you? it not what it used to be since the "incident" On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 1:35 PM Carl Peterson wrote: > I am always amazed at how disconnected the far right can be from what I > think is reality. Snopes is fact based and Wikipedia as a whole is pre

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And the age of the deceased was? I’m assuming this is the person you posted about way back when all of this was starting in the BC age (Before Covid). Wasn’t’ he 80ish years old and contracted it on the Princess Cruise ship? From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Bill Prince Se

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I am always amazed at how disconnected the far right can be from what I think is reality. Snopes is fact based and Wikipedia as a whole is pretty darn unbiased. Just because you don't like facts doesn't make them biased. On Wed, May 6, 2020 at 1:00 PM Steve Jones wrote: > I cant help but laug

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my sister on the other hand is not doing well as consequence of the "cure". she lives in a group home that on lockdown. She is accusomed to church every sunday followed by mom and dad for bacon breakfast. Her norms were decimated and she decompensated. Got lethargic, developed pnemonia. Spent the

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