Member returning Eric Caron

2020-03-07 Thread Eric Caron
Dear group,

I’m looking forward to participating again on this list. 

Somehow my inactivity resulted in being unsubscribed.  

Life will now allow me to participate again.  I’m also looking forward to 
getting my Mac back into top working condition. 

Now, if only this  message gets through and I can figure out how to get the 
emails flowing again.

Looking forward to being part of the community.

Eric Caron 


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New member start up glitches

2020-03-07 Thread Eric Caron
Hi folks,

Not sure this message will get through. 

I sent a earlier list message and did receive some replies. But then no more 
list messages after that. 

I’m sure the list is more active then no messages for 6 or more hours so I’m 
sending this again to see if the pipe line will work.

I didn’t see my own message and In the past I did. 
A couple messages did end up in my junk mail, but nothing new for many hours.

I just turned off my rule to move the messages to a special mail box so hoping 
that might help.

I’m looking forward to communication again.

Eric Caron 

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Test ignore

2020-03-07 Thread Eric Caron
Trying to fix the email flow 

Eric Caron 

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Google group settings

2020-03-07 Thread Eric Caron
Hi folks,

Assume I am not seeing this message or your replies.  If you can suggest ways 
to get this group to send me emails I’d be grateful.  I think I am getting 
replies off list but nothing to the list address.  I’ve found a setting that 
said all emails and tried to set that in the google groups settings with no 
change. 

Funny that my first difficult task is just to get back on the list!

Eric Caron 

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Ignore, still trying to make contact

2020-03-07 Thread Eric Caron
Still adjusting settings to try to get the group emails to show up on my Mac.

Eric Caron 

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Re: Ignore, still trying to make contact

2020-03-07 Thread Eric Caron
Hi Brandon,

I received your message.  I’m hoping you sent it to the group as that 
might mean I found the fix for the problem.

Eric Caron 



> On Mar 7, 2020, at 10:57 PM, Brandon Olivares  
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> I’ve gotten all your emails, for what it’s worth…
> 
>> On Mar 7, 2020, at 10:56 PM, Eric Caron  wrote:
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>> Still adjusting settings to try to get the group emails to show up on my Mac.
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>> Eric Caron 
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Ignore sorry for traffic check

2020-03-08 Thread Eric Caron
Working on joining.

Last night messages showed up,, this morning all messages disappeared except a 
few in the junk box and some of list emails. 
 I’m playing with deleting old mail rules and mail boxes to see if that helps. 
 Eventually I’ll just give it a rest and try back in the future.

Eric Caron 

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Re: Getting Access to What SIRI is Showing Me

2020-03-08 Thread Eric Caron
Hi Jonathan and others,

Hope this works.  

This type of exchange is why I value this list and hope to be functional again. 
 This message came through.

I remember when my iPhone would act as described.  I’d ask for a phone number 
or address from contacts and before I could read it, it would go away. 

I’m currently using 13.3.1 on a 10 S and this is not happening.  I can now see 
the info when swiping.  Not the entire contact but the info I asked for and 
some functionality like making a call is there.  If I asked for the address I 
can tap on that and maps is activated.  

If I tap on the item that says Contact header it actually opens in contacts but 
is just the contacts app not the contact I asked for. 

Hope this gets through.

Best,

Eric Caron 


> On Mar 8, 2020, at 11:10 AM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
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> Just to be sure, are you talking about Siri on the computer or on IOS?
> 
>   Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mar 8, 2020, at 9:44 AM, Dave Carlson > <mailto:dgcarl...@sbcglobal.net>> wrote:
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>> Tim,
>> Sorry, that was not the question. I do get a response from SIRI, telling me 
>> “here’s the information for John Smith”. But I don’t know how to get at what 
>> have been placed on the screen. It just disappears when I try to use VO to 
>> read it.
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Re: Getting Access to What SIRI is Showing Me

2020-03-08 Thread Eric Caron
Hi Dave,

Yes, I generally go back and forth between my Mac and iPhone doing whatever is 
easier on either device. 

Also, learned that I’m rusty with this group as I missed from the question that 
it was Mac and  not iOS.

Hoping to improve my  contributions.

But, still not consistently getting group emails.

Best,

Eric Caron 




> On Mar 8, 2020, at 12:35 PM, Dave Carlson  wrote:
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> Eric,
> Yes, sometimes the iOS is a lot easier than OSx. Definitely I like editing a 
> contact in iOS more than OSx. Also there are many web sites that are more 
> easily managed using iOS Safari than OSx Safari, due to the simpler mobile 
> interface imposed by iOS.
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Ignore test

2020-03-08 Thread Eric Caron
Experiment  still not working correctly. 


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Request recommendation for foldable keyboard

2020-03-08 Thread Eric Caron
Hi Listeres,

In the hope that I’m making progress this message might come through, 
and hopefully I’ll see the replies.

I’m looking for a portable bluetooth keyboard to use with my iPhone when 
traveling.  Something that when open is a full keyboard with arrows and 
function keys.  A number pad is probably too much to ask for. 

This would be something I could use to type longer documents and emails  or 
edit with. 

Does anyone have a recommendation for a folding or small keyboard that would 
travel well and be functional?

One plus is that it can be easily turned off and on as it is nice to sometimes 
quickly get the on screen keyboard back.

Recommendations greatly appreciated,

And here’s hoping I have made progress on the group email flow and that I see 
the replies,

Best, 

Eric Caron 


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Re: Request recommendation for foldable keyboard

2020-03-09 Thread Eric Caron
Hi Simon,

Your recommendation came through so I now have a starting place for my 
keyboard search and hope that I have the group list working.  

Eric Caron 

> On Mar 9, 2020, at 3:46 AM, Simon A Fogarty  wrote:
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> Hi check out the iClever BK03 folding keyboard from amazon,
> It's Bluetooth and lets you pair 3 devices and folds up to the same sort of 
> size as your phone is.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com  On 
> Behalf Of Eric Caron
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> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Request recommendation for foldable keyboard
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> Hi Listeres,
> 
>   In the hope that I’m making progress this message might come through, 
> and hopefully I’ll see the replies.
> 
> I’m looking for a portable bluetooth keyboard to use with my iPhone when 
> traveling.  Something that when open is a full keyboard with arrows and 
> function keys.  A number pad is probably too much to ask for. 
> 
> This would be something I could use to type longer documents and emails  or 
> edit with. 
> 
> Does anyone have a recommendation for a folding or small keyboard that would 
> travel well and be functional?
> 
> One plus is that it can be easily turned off and on as it is nice to 
> sometimes quickly get the on screen keyboard back.
> 
> Recommendations greatly appreciated,
> 
> And here’s hoping I have made progress on the group email flow and that I see 
> the replies,
> 
> Best, 
> 
> Eric Caron 
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Word Processors recommendation

2020-03-10 Thread Eric Caron
Working on getting my Mac in a stronger working order.

I have not updated the operating system as my current Microsoft app is 34 bit 
and I don’t have a clue where the registration info is.  I purchased my copy 
many years ago and had a difficult time getting it installed.  I accidentally 
selected the 34 bit version.

I understand if I move to the latest Mac operating system it will no longer 
work. 

So I’m considering Microsoft 365. 

What is the word processor of choice these days?


Anyway, I’m wondering if Pages has improved over the years so. That I don’t 
need Microsoft work for Mac or Microsoft 365. 

What is the current state of Accessability for Microsoft and Pages? 

My concern is was of use and ability to share documents as a doc or similar 
file.  
It was frustrating to have to export in Pages every time I wanted to share a 
file with someone. 

Still my day to day work is almost all Mac now.

Before purchasing Microsoft 365 I thought I’d check in.  
Thoughts and tips appreciated!

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Re: Word Processors recommendation

2020-03-10 Thread Eric Caron


> On Mar 10, 2020, at 3:48 PM, Eric Caron  wrote:
> 
> Hi Tim and others,
> 
>   My current computer only version of Microsoft Word application seems to 
> have some glitches.  The longer my documents are the more issues that seem to 
> crop up.  Mostly focus issues.
> 
> Pages being an Apple product, I’m hoping would be a better experience, but 
> then I have the export issues.
> 
> Microsoft 365 is unknown to me, but I’ve not found getting the exchange 
> account a easy process and am concerned I get the product to find it is 
> glitchy.
>  I’m reassured with the comment that it is accessible. 
> 
> I’d love to know what word processors Mac-Visionaries are using?  
> 
> I want to keep my documents simple and having a mix of Dox and Pages isn’t 
> appealing, however, Pages might be the more reliable package and worth the 
> extra steps when needed. 
> 
> Are there any special advantages to Microsoft 365 I might not know about?
> 
> So, what is the word processor my fellow Mac users on list rely on?
> 
> Eric Caron 
>   
> 
> 
>> On Mar 10, 2020, at 2:28 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> Pages, Keynote and Numbers are all totally accessible.  If you plan on 
>> sharing a document created in Pages with someone who is a Microsoft Office 
>> user, then you'll still need to export it to a Word document (.DOCX).  Pages 
>> is an Apple product, not a Microsoft product and thus I doubt that this will 
>> ever change.  Office 365 is quite accessible on the Mac.  Others may be able 
>> to give you more specifics, but it is totally usable now from a VO 
>> prospective.  Pages is free, so deciding whether you wish to purchase a 
>> subscription to Office 365 vs using Apple's suite is your call.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Jamf Certified Tech
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Mar 10, 2020, at 12:16, Eric Caron > <mailto:eric.caro...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Working on getting my Mac in a stronger working order.
>> 
>> I have not updated the operating system as my current Microsoft app is 34 
>> bit and I don’t have a clue where the registration info is.  I purchased my 
>> copy many years ago and had a difficult time getting it installed.  I 
>> accidentally selected the 34 bit version.
>> 
>> I understand if I move to the latest Mac operating system it will no longer 
>> work. 
>> 
>> So I’m considering Microsoft 365. 
>> 
>> What is the word processor of choice these days?
>> 
>> 
>> Anyway, I’m wondering if Pages has improved over the years so. That I don’t 
>> need Microsoft work for Mac or Microsoft 365. 
>> 
>> What is the current state of Accessability for Microsoft and Pages? 
>> 
>> My concern is was of use and ability to share documents as a doc or similar 
>> file.  
>> It was frustrating to have to export in Pages every time I wanted to share a 
>> file with someone. 
>> 
>> Still my day to day work is almost all Mac now.
>> 
>> Before purchasing Microsoft 365 I thought I’d check in.  
>> Thoughts and tips appreciated!
>> 
>> Eric Caron 
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Re: backblaze and voiceover

2020-03-10 Thread Eric Caron
Hi Jean,

Years ago I started using Carbon Copy Cloner.  At the time it was free. 
 Then it moved to a payed model.  I’ve been using it ever sense.  It is 
accessible.  It makes a bootable copy on a external drive. 

I have only once had to use it to completely restore my hard drive, but 
it worked and was well worth having it. 

It can also be used to retrieve files from past backups. 

I just mention it as I’ve had good luck with it.  But, I have not investigated 
other options in many years. 

Please keep responses on list, as that is how we all learn.


Best,

Eric Caron 


> On Mar 10, 2020, at 5:25 PM, jean parker  wrote:
> 
> Hello All:
> 
> I am considering purchasing Backblaze and have some questions. I am a bit 
> hesitant because they do not publish a customer support phone number and they 
> don't say anything about accessibility on their web site. Thus, I would like 
> to hear from the group about your experiences as follows:
> 
> 1. I did the preliminary backup as part of the 15 day free trial. I found the 
> interface to select drives tricky to use so I am not sure exactly what is 
> selected for backup and what is excluded.
> 
> 2. Naturally, the ultimate objective of having such a service is to be able 
> to restore files in case of a problem. I went to the view and restore files 
> interface but was also not able to find things like documents, desktop, 
> downloads etc. How does this work and is the restore process accessible? If 
> so, how is it done with voiceover?
> 
> 3. What is people's experience with their customer support? Are they 
> responsive? Do they have enough knowledge to be conversant about how to 
> perform functions using voiceover?
> 
> Replying off list is fine in order to reduce clutter on the list. My email is:
> radioforever @gmail.com
> 
> Many thanks in advance for your help.
> 
> Jean
> 
> 
> 
> Jean Parker, Ph.D.
> www.buildingresilience.global
> Check out my book
> “Emergency Preparedness Through Community Cohesion: An Integral Approach To 
> Resilience:
> available in ebook and hard-back
> https://www.routledge.com/Emergency-Preparedness-through-Community-Cohesion-An-Integral-Approach/Parker/p/book/9781138327887?utm_source=outlook&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=B190507833
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Re: Word Processors recommendation

2020-03-10 Thread Eric Caron
Thanks folks,

This has been very helpful.

My documents tend to be pretty simple, though they can get long. 

Text edit seemed to handle reading and saving back as a doc file.  

Also, Pages seems pretty responsive and I seem to be finding my way around 
pretty well.

I was originally planning on getting the 365 to try but now I’m tempted to use 
these two word processors and see how that goes. 

The info has been very helpful.

Eric Caron 


> On Mar 10, 2020, at 4:28 PM, Bradford Snyder  wrote:
> 
> Text Edit is a nice option but it is pretty basic.  I have also experienced 
> issues with MS Word documents loosing certain types of formatting, such as 
> numbering and other formatting options that are not supported by Text Edit.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> 
> On Mar 10, 2020, at 13:13, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I use Pages and TextEdit.  I forgot to mention TextEdit before.  It can open 
> and save to Word, although you can't do as fancy of formatting as in Word or 
> Pages.
> 
> Later...
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Mar 10, 2020, at 13:50, Eric Caron  <mailto:eric.caro...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mar 10, 2020, at 3:48 PM, Eric Caron > <mailto:eric.ca...@icloud.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Tim and others,
>> 
>>  My current computer only version of Microsoft Word application seems to 
>> have some glitches.  The longer my documents are the more issues that seem 
>> to crop up.  Mostly focus issues.
>> 
>> Pages being an Apple product, I’m hoping would be a better experience, but 
>> then I have the export issues.
>> 
>> Microsoft 365 is unknown to me, but I’ve not found getting the exchange 
>> account a easy process and am concerned I get the product to find it is 
>> glitchy.
>>  I’m reassured with the comment that it is accessible. 
>> 
>> I’d love to know what word processors Mac-Visionaries are using?  
>> 
>> I want to keep my documents simple and having a mix of Dox and Pages isn’t 
>> appealing, however, Pages might be the more reliable package and worth the 
>> extra steps when needed. 
>> 
>> Are there any special advantages to Microsoft 365 I might not know about?
>> 
>> So, what is the word processor my fellow Mac users on list rely on?
>> 
>> Eric Caron 
>>  
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 10, 2020, at 2:28 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Pages, Keynote and Numbers are all totally accessible.  If you plan on 
>>> sharing a document created in Pages with someone who is a Microsoft Office 
>>> user, then you'll still need to export it to a Word document (.DOCX).  
>>> Pages is an Apple product, not a Microsoft product and thus I doubt that 
>>> this will ever change.  Office 365 is quite accessible on the Mac.  Others 
>>> may be able to give you more specifics, but it is totally usable now from a 
>>> VO prospective.  Pages is free, so deciding whether you wish to purchase a 
>>> subscription to Office 365 vs using Apple's suite is your call.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Jamf Certified Tech
>>> Apple Teacher
>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On Mar 10, 2020, at 12:16, Eric Caron >> <mailto:eric.caro...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Working on getting my Mac in a stronger working order.
>>> 
>>> I have not updated the operating system as my current Microsoft app is 34 
>>> bit and I don’t have a clue where the registration info is.  I purchased my 
>>> copy many years ago and had a difficult time getting it installed.  I 
>>> accidentally selected the 34 bit version.
>>> 
>>> I understand if I move to the latest Mac operating system it will no longer 
>>> work. 
>>> 
>>> So I’m considering Microsoft 365. 
>>> 
>>> What is the word processor of choice these days?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Anyway, I’m wondering if Pages has improved over the years so. That I don’t 
>>> need Microsoft work for Mac or Microsoft 365. 
>>> 
>>> What is the current state of Accessability for Microsoft and Pages? 
>>> 
>>> My conce

Group wisdom on upgrading to Catalina?

2020-03-11 Thread Eric Caron
Hi folks,

Now that I’m back on list I have a bit more confidence about upgrading. 

I’m wondering if the group feels like Catalina is now functioning well and 
worth upgrading or are many people sticking with a past OS?  I’m currently 
working in Mojave.

Eric Caron 

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Re: anyone having trouble with Siri on HomePod and Wemo smart plugs?

2020-03-13 Thread Eric Caron
Hi Donna,

I had a similar problem with the same smart plug and Amazon Echo.  

To solve the problem I had to reset the Wemo plug. 

Just resetting my Echo and rediscovery didn’t work.  I had to follow the reset 
directions on the Wemo plug and then set it up again.  After that it worked 
correctly.  I think it also updated it’s firm ware in the process. 

I googled how to reset the plug.  If I remember correctly I had to hold the 
power button down and plug it in and hold the button for 10 seconds.  Then I 
used the Wemo app to find it and set it up.

I hope this helps.

Eric Caron 


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>  wrote:
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> Hi all,
> 
> All week, my kitchen HomePod has not been playing nice with my Wemo smart 
> plugs. On Thursday I did a factory reset of the HomePod and that helped, but 
> today the problem came back. Siri on homePod can neither turn them on or off. 
> Just wondering, is anyone else experiencing this? Anyone found a solution?
> TIA,
> Donna
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Re: Coronavirus impact: Apple moves WWDC to online format, citing 'current health situation' | Fox News

2020-03-14 Thread Eric Caron
Hi Ann,

Only recently returning to list it is so good to see familiar names 
posting in supporting each other.  

I remember how this group both supported each other with tech but also 
behind the tech supported each other’s successe. 

I look forward to seeing posts from new and familiar people in this 
community.

Currently, My family has two people effected directly.  This relates to 
tech,  One has just been returned to the US and is recovering from COVID19.  He 
is not out of the woods.  The other is healthy but quarantined, in a very small 
foreign country near India.

Her life line to the world is her iPhone 7 and iPad.  Mostly the 
iPhone.  She was able to have unlimited data turned on.  Without that 
communication her life would be very difficult right now.  With that iPhone she 
is connected to her family and the world. 

I have been able to help her with small glitches with the phone but 
mainly it is just working well.  

This is even more fortunate as I  can not  say the US embassy has been helpful.

So, tech support and encouragement from this list may become even more 
important than  we would realize. 

Glad to be reconnected to all of you. 

I hope all folks traveling have reliable cell phones

And, let's keep the communication options on our Macs ready to go.

Best,

Eric Caron 

> On Mar 14, 2020, at 10:39 AM, Anne Robertson  wrote:
> 
> Hello Simon,
> 
> I live in one of the worst affected departments in France and the hospital 
> where I was recently treated for cancer is where the first local case was 
> diagnosed. My husband is an independent English teacher and already some of 
> his classes have been cancelled. It’s a very weird situation to be living 
> through.
> Cheers,
> 
> Anne
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On 14 Mar 2020, at 10:52, Simon A Fogarty > <mailto:si...@blinky-net.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Barry,
>>  
>> Yeah this virus is going to cause some slow downs globlely for a while,
>>  
>> So anything anyone was expecting to purchase this year, chances are you’ll 
>> need to wait a couple of extra months.
>>  
>> New Zealand will be some what restricting international travel in to the 
>> country as of Sunday night  and anyone coming in will go in to a somewhat 
>> forced 14 quaruntine / isolation
>>  
>>  
>> And I know we’re not the first to do this but it will get worse before it 
>> gets better.
>>  
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com 
>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> > <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> On Behalf Of Barry Hadder
>> Sent: Saturday, 14 March 2020 6:29 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>
>> Subject: Coronavirus impact: Apple moves WWDC to online format, citing 
>> 'current health situation' | Fox News
>>  
>>  
>> https://www.foxnews.com/tech/coronavirus-impact-apple-moves-wwdc-to-online-format-citing-current-health-situation
>>  
>> <https://www.foxnews.com/tech/coronavirus-impact-apple-moves-wwdc-to-online-format-citing-current-health-situation>
>>  
>> 
>> Barry Hadder
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Re: Group wisdom on upgrading to Catalina?

2020-03-15 Thread Eric Caron
Hi folks,

I did the upgrade and all went well.  No longer able to use my 32 bit 
version of Microsoft word.  But, for my purposes Pages seems to be working out 
very nicely and I have Text Edit as well for some things. 

I am not sure I want to add more to my learning curve right now with 
Windows. 

Thanks for the tips and encouragement. 

One note.  In a earlier thread about back up solutions I mentioned liking 
Carbon Copy Cloner.  In the process of upgrading I needed again to give Carbon 
Copy Cloner some permissions.  This was not easy to do.  They wanted me to drag 
a file into a table.  It was a fish icon.

I remember years ago writing to the developer and explaining it was not easy 
for a blind person using voice over to do.   It has not been changed.

He did send me a way to do it but it was not easy and  ended up just having my 
sighted partner drag it over.


So, though I have not used Super Duper I’d take the advice given by Robert 
Carter and go that route  for a application that does Cloning. 

I’ll stick to what I have as it is working and paid for but I won’t upgrade it 
in the future.

So far, I’m enjoying Catalina.

Eric Caron 



> On Mar 13, 2020, at 1:53 AM, 'Shawn Krasniuk' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Well I've been beta testing Catalina when it first got released to developers 
> and I love it. The thing that sold me the most about it is the fact that we 
> can now use the Siri voices with Voiceover like we could on iOS.
> 
> Regards,
> Shawn,
> Sent from Sophia, the MacBook Air
> 
> Want to join my WhatsApp groups such as Echo Enthusiasts, Accessibility 
> Matters or my new group, Mac Users And Newbies? Send me a private email with 
> your contact information and I'll happily add you.
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> Facebook Username: Shawn Krasniuk
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> Skype username: bbstheblindrapper
> Facetime: bbssh...@icloud.com
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>> On Mar 12, 2020, at 11:07 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> I think you should upgrade as you get the latest security then.
>> It works quite well for most of the time.
>> There are some issues for me with braille and i guess this wont be fixed for 
>> quite some time since braille isn’t quite important for apple.
>> But things work as they should.
>> Be aware thought that Itunes is gone and you have to learn the new music app.
>> /A
>> 
>>> 12 mars 2020 kl. 00:32 skrev Eric Caron :
>>> 
>>> Hi folks,
>>> 
>>> Now that I’m back on list I have a bit more confidence about upgrading. 
>>> 
>>> I’m wondering if the group feels like Catalina is now functioning well and 
>>> worth upgrading or are many people sticking with a past OS?  I’m currently 
>>> working in Mojave.
>>> 
>>> Eric Caron 
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Silencing Voice over

2020-03-15 Thread Eric Caron
Hi listers,

I remember in the past using the control key to stop VO from talking.  
Than a second press to start speech again.

In the last two operating systems I don’t seem to be able to do this any 
longer.  Am I missing something?

In most cases when I press the control key  VO just keeps talking and than at 
the end says control.  This is because I have the modifier keys set to speak 
when pressed.

So, for example in mail I may press down arrow to hear a message and then want 
to stop speech with control.  I press it and it just keeps talking. 

Is there another key now to obtain silence and then return to speech?
A little more experimentation is indicating to me that if I turn VO off and on 
again the function seems to work again for a time.

Are others experiencing the same?

I find I have to toggle VO off and on a lot lately to get it to work correctly. 
This happens a lot when editing text in mail.


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Re: backblaze and voiceover

2020-03-15 Thread Eric Caron
Hi Robert and others. 

I just found I still had this thread in my messages so I wanted to add 
that I don’t have experience with Super Duper but if I were starting over I’d 
use that app over Carbon Copy Cloner.  The reason is the VO support Robert 
mentions.

I’ve had good luck with CCC but the developer doesn’t seem to go out of 
his way to make sure the app is fully accessible.  Recent experience after 
upgrading my Mac was that I had to set up CCC again to have full access to my 
hard drive.  This required dragging a fish icon to the table in the security 
settings.

I remember years ago writing to the developer asking for another 
solution.  He sent me a reply but it was not workable.  So, in the end I used 
sighted help.

It sounds like Super Duper would not have this issue and likely be easier to 
use.

I will say the CCC clone worked perfectly when I needed it, so having a 
bootable clone in your back up solution is something I’d recommend.

Eric Caron 



> On Mar 12, 2020, at 1:06 PM, Robert Carter  wrote:
> 
> Hi Jean,
> 
> I have been using Back Blaze for the last several years.
> 
> I have found it to be accessible enough for my needs. I should say that it is 
> the third part of my backup approach. I also use Apple’s time machine and 
> each week I make a clone of my computer using SuperDuper. BackBlaze is the 
> off sight backup portion just in case something happens to both my SuperDuper 
> and time machine backups.
> 
> I have never tried to restore from Back Blaze other than to login and grab a 
> file or two that I needed. I was able to navigate around in my backup with 
> VoiceOver well enough to locate the files that I wanted. Also, for a 
> reasonable price, Back Blaze will send you a copy of your backup on a hard 
> drive. I have found them to be very reliable and reasonably priced. Again, I 
> choose not to use them as my only backup but as a part of the whole backup 
> strategy. If you want to start cloning your Mac, I recommend SuperDuper. It 
> is totally accessible and the developer is very committed to VoiceOver.
> 
> Take care,
> 
> Robert Carter
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mar 10, 2020, at 4:25 PM, jean parker  wrote:
>> 
>> Hello All:
>> 
>> I am considering purchasing Backblaze and have some questions. I am a bit 
>> hesitant because they do not publish a customer support phone number and 
>> they don't say anything about accessibility on their web site. Thus, I would 
>> like to hear from the group about your experiences as follows:
>> 
>> 1. I did the preliminary backup as part of the 15 day free trial. I found 
>> the interface to select drives tricky to use so I am not sure exactly what 
>> is selected for backup and what is excluded.
>> 
>> 2. Naturally, the ultimate objective of having such a service is to be able 
>> to restore files in case of a problem. I went to the view and restore files 
>> interface but was also not able to find things like documents, desktop, 
>> downloads etc. How does this work and is the restore process accessible? If 
>> so, how is it done with voiceover?
>> 
>> 3. What is people's experience with their customer support? Are they 
>> responsive? Do they have enough knowledge to be conversant about how to 
>> perform functions using voiceover?
>> 
>> Replying off list is fine in order to reduce clutter on the list. My email 
>> is:
>> radioforever @gmail.com
>> 
>> Many thanks in advance for your help.
>> 
>> Jean
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Jean Parker, Ph.D.
>> www.buildingresilience.global
>> Check out my book
>> “Emergency Preparedness Through Community Cohesion: An Integral Approach To 
>> Resilience:
>> available in ebook and hard-back
>> https://www.routledge.com/Emergency-Preparedness-through-Community-Cohesion-An-Integral-Approach/Parker/p/book/9781138327887?utm_source=outlook&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=B190507833
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Re: messages in IOS 13

2020-03-16 Thread Eric Caron
Wow!  This is why I’m glad to have this list support! 

Great catch.

Eric Caron  


> On Mar 16, 2020, at 6:04 PM, paulsandova...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> Glad it worked. 
> Stay healthy.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries  
> Sent: Monday, March 16, 2020 4:01 PM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: messages in IOS 13
> 
> Yes, that was it! Thank you!!!
> Donna
> 
> 
>> On Mar 16, 2020, at 4:59 PM,  
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Donna,
>> 
>> Can you see if you have Speak Screen enabled?
>> This can be found under Settings, Accessibility, spoken content, Speak 
>> screen.
>> If it is enabled, disable it and let us know if that helps any. 
>> 
>> Thank you.
>> Paul Sandoval
>> Blind Tech Training
>> Expanding Possibilities Using Technology.
>> -Original Message-
>> From: 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>> 
>> Sent: Monday, March 16, 2020 3:56 PM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: messages in IOS 13
>> 
>> Huh. That would seem to suggest that I must have a different setting, but I 
>> can't imagine what it would be.
>> Cheers,
>> Donna
>> 
>>> On Mar 16, 2020, at 4:54 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>>>  wrote:
>>> 
>>> for me yes.  I see all of the conversation with a particular recipient. I 
>>> do find issues with other things in the app but not what you describe.
>>> 
>>> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>>> ancient.ali...@icloud.com
>>> Many believe that we have been visited in the past. What if it were 
>>> true?
>>> 
>>> On 3/16/2020 2:39 PM, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>>>> So if you tap to open a message thread, that is the only thread you see on 
>>>> the screen?
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Donna
>>>>> On Mar 16, 2020, at 4:29 PM, Anders Holmberg >>>> <mailto:and...@pipkrokodil.se>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi!
>>>>> I have the XR and it hasn’t got the homey.
>>>>> I never have this issue.
>>>>> /A
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 16 mars 2020 kl. 20:19 skrev Petrus Tuerlings >>>>> <mailto:petrus.t...@gmail.com>>:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Yeah, I thought you were asking about the iPad as well, as I’ve never 
>>>>>> met this problem on my iPhone before either. But then I have the 8+ so 
>>>>>> the screen layout might be different without the home key.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 17/03/2020, at 05:53, 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>>>> >>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> No, it's on my iPhone 11.
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Donna
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Mar 16, 2020, at 11:45 AM, Anders Holmberg >>>>>>> <mailto:and...@pipkrokodil.se>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Hi!
>>>>>>>> Is this on the Ipad?
>>>>>>>> If so the messages that’s not in focus  are more to the left of the 
>>>>>>>> screen.
>>>>>>>> Once a  message is opened its on the right of the screen.
>>>>>>>> Hope this makes sense.
>>>>>>>> /A
>>>>>>>>> 16 mars 2020 kl. 16:30 skrev 'Donna Goodin' via MacVisionaries 
>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>>:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> One thing I really hate about Messages in IOS 13 is that even after 
>>>>>>>>> selecting and opening a message thread, all your other message 
>>>>>>>>> threads are still displayed on the screen. That makes the screen so 
>>>>>>>>> cluttered that often I'm unable to find the text field for the thread 
>>>>>>>>> to which I'm trying to respond. Does anyone know if there's a setting 
>>>>>>>>> that can be adjusted so that when you open a thread, that's the only 
>>

Re: Silencing Voice over

2020-03-16 Thread Eric Caron
This conversation has been helpful.  When the control key doesn’t work I just 
start VO over again and it lasts for some time.  It may last for moments or for 
a long time. 

At least I can now get it to work.

Interesting that it consistently works on a mini.  I’m using a 2018 Mac Book 
Pro 15.

Eric Caron 

> On Mar 16, 2020, at 6:22 PM, matthew dyer  <mailto:ilovecountrymusic...@outlook.com>> wrote:
> 
> Hi Eric,
> 
> Sorry  not having this problem on a mac mini with 16 gb of ram and a 1 TB 
> SSAID  f 2018.  Also using Catilina.  Thanks.
> 
> Matthew
> 
> On Mar 15, 2020 10:38 PM, Eric Caron  <mailto:eric.caro...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> Hi listers,
> 
> I remember in the past using the control key to stop VO from talking. 
>  Than a second press to start speech again.
> 
> In the last two operating systems I don’t seem to be able to do this any 
> longer.  Am I missing something?
> 
> In most cases when I press the control key  VO just keeps talking and than at 
> the end says control.  This is because I have the modifier keys set to speak 
> when pressed.
> 
> So, for example in mail I may press down arrow to hear a message and then 
> want to stop speech with control.  I press it and it just keeps talking. 
> 
> Is there another key now to obtain silence and then return to speech?
> A little more experimentation is indicating to me that if I turn VO off and 
> on again the function seems to work again for a time.
> 
> Are others experiencing the same?
> 
> I find I have to toggle VO off and on a lot lately to get it to work 
> correctly. This happens a lot when editing text in mail.
> 
> 
> Eric Caron 
> 
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Re: Wi-Fi Extenders

2020-03-16 Thread Eric Caron
I”m interested in the replies.

 My wifi was weak in one spot in my home.  I purchased a TP link extender.  I 
didn’t notice any improvement no matter where I put it. 

I have two old apple express routers.  They can be used to extend a 
network or as a air play device. 

I was able to get them working and attached to my network.  I then placed them 
so one was part way to my bed room and one was in the room.  I didn’t notice 
any improvement.  I think it may have even weakened the signal. 

Finally I just gave up and that one spot has one bar and works much of the time.

I’d like to eventually find a router that has serious range. 

I’m actually doing a little better now that I retired the last router and 
pressed back into service my Apple time capsule.  That old thing is still 
keeping up with my many smart home devices and streaming demands. 

I hope to hear you find a successful resolution.

Eric Caron 


> On Mar 16, 2020, at 6:05 PM, 'E.T.' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
>   Hmm, I just got a new Apple TV 4k which did not fix the issue. It has an 
> Ethernet port. Its a very long shot, in more than one way. :) But if that is 
> what you awre suggesting, then would that go between the ATV and the router?
> 
> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
>   ancient.ali...@icloud.com
> Many believe that we have been visited
> in the past. What if it were true?
> 
> On 3/16/2020 2:46 PM, 'Jason White' via MacVisionaries wrote:
>> I suppose you could install a mesh system. A Web search would provide 
>> reviews.
>> Alternatively, could you run a cable between the two floors?
>> On 3/16/20, 11:40, "'E.T.' via MacVisionaries" 
>>  wrote:
>> My Apple TV is downstairs. The Mac and router are upstairs. I cannot
>> relocate any of it. Sometimes when watching content on the ATV, the
>> video will pause.
>> So am looking into extenders. What should I look for when shopping?
>>  From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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Re: backblaze and voiceover

2020-03-17 Thread Eric Caron
Hi Andrew,

Thanks for the explanation and your directions on how you dragged the 
fish icon into the table. 

I’ll remember to try that going forward.  In a past operating system on 
my Mac I could not get the steps to work, but I was lazy this time and didn’t 
even try.  I need to remember that things do change and usually improve with 
time.  

Generally CCC, Carbon Copy cloner has worked well for me and I find it easy to 
navigate.  It has also saved me big time at least once when  I needed to 
restore my laptop disk from the clone.

Nice to know that at lease two good options are out there.  But, Hopefully 
Super Duper doesn’t also require the security table challenge. 

Best,

Eric Caron 


> On Mar 16, 2020, at 5:11 PM, 'Andrew Lamanche' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Eric,
> 
> The problem with CCC is not theirs but Apple’s requirement to grant full 
> access to the disk.  I’ve managed to overcome it by actually using drag and 
> drop of the image with Voiceover.  It worked although I can’t remember 
> whether it worked immediately.  once Vo was focused on the image to drag, I 
> routed mouse to voiceover cursor, performed mouse down with 
> vo+command+shift+spacebar, then moved to the system preferences security  
> interacted with the table of apps allowed full access, then routed the mouse 
> to voiceover again and then released the Mouse with the same shortcut key 
> combo as above.
> 
> Andrew
>> On 16 Mar 2020, at 02:44, Eric Caron  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Robert and others. 
>> 
>>  I just found I still had this thread in my messages so I wanted to add 
>> that I don’t have experience with Super Duper but if I were starting over 
>> I’d use that app over Carbon Copy Cloner.  The reason is the VO support 
>> Robert mentions.
>> 
>>  I’ve had good luck with CCC but the developer doesn’t seem to go out of 
>> his way to make sure the app is fully accessible.  Recent experience after 
>> upgrading my Mac was that I had to set up CCC again to have full access to 
>> my hard drive.  This required dragging a fish icon to the table in the 
>> security settings.
>> 
>>  I remember years ago writing to the developer asking for another 
>> solution.  He sent me a reply but it was not workable.  So, in the end I 
>> used sighted help.
>> 
>> It sounds like Super Duper would not have this issue and likely be easier to 
>> use.
>> 
>> I will say the CCC clone worked perfectly when I needed it, so having a 
>> bootable clone in your back up solution is something I’d recommend.
>> 
>> Eric Caron 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 12, 2020, at 1:06 PM, Robert Carter  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Jean,
>>> 
>>> I have been using Back Blaze for the last several years.
>>> 
>>> I have found it to be accessible enough for my needs. I should say that it 
>>> is the third part of my backup approach. I also use Apple’s time machine 
>>> and each week I make a clone of my computer using SuperDuper. BackBlaze is 
>>> the off sight backup portion just in case something happens to both my 
>>> SuperDuper and time machine backups.
>>> 
>>> I have never tried to restore from Back Blaze other than to login and grab 
>>> a file or two that I needed. I was able to navigate around in my backup 
>>> with VoiceOver well enough to locate the files that I wanted. Also, for a 
>>> reasonable price, Back Blaze will send you a copy of your backup on a hard 
>>> drive. I have found them to be very reliable and reasonably priced. Again, 
>>> I choose not to use them as my only backup but as a part of the whole 
>>> backup strategy. If you want to start cloning your Mac, I recommend 
>>> SuperDuper. It is totally accessible and the developer is very committed to 
>>> VoiceOver.
>>> 
>>> Take care,
>>> 
>>> Robert Carter
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Mar 10, 2020, at 4:25 PM, jean parker  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hello All:
>>>> 
>>>> I am considering purchasing Backblaze and have some questions. I am a bit 
>>>> hesitant because they do not publish a customer support phone number and 
>>>> they don't say anything about accessibility on their web site. Thus, I 
>>>> would like to hear from the group about your experiences as follows:
>>>> 
>>>> 1. I did the preliminary backup as part of the 15 day free trial. I found 
>>>> the interface to select drives tricky to use so I am not sure exactly what 
>>>> is selected for b

Aira free to College students for the rest of the spring semester

2020-03-17 Thread Eric Caron



Hi listers,

I’m sure Aira has been discussed in the past.  I wanted to post the below as it 
would be very helpful to current blind college students.  

I just wish they would also offer it to blind teachers as they are also 
learning fast how to run on line teaching. 

Also, if you are planning to join Aira for more than the free 5 minute calls be 
sure to go through a current user so that you both get additional minutes.

Here is the part of the post for college students.

Aira is the popular app that connects a trained sighted person to assist a 
blind person with tasks. 

I am posting part of a email message below that offers free service to 
blind college students for the rest of the semester. 

If you know a student please share as this could be a big help when learning 
new on line distance learning software.  Now if only they offered it to blind 
teachers as well! 

One other note.  If you are thinking about joining Aira go through a current 
blind user and both of you will get free minutes to use.

They also now easily screen share on the Mac and iPhone.

Eric Caron 

Free Offer - College Students in Need of Aira

We know that many universities and colleges are rapidly shifting to distance 
learning.  We’ve heard that some materials and software being used are 
inaccessible so we will be offering free Aira for any college student for the 
remainder of the spring semester ending in May 2020.  If you know of a student 
who could benefit from Aira for their distance learning, please email 
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Re: Aira free to College students for the rest of the spring semester

2020-03-17 Thread Eric Caron
Hi Petrus, and others,

I was skeptical when it first came out.  I used Bemyeyes and 
bespectacle, I think it was called that.  And, those apps were free. But, I got 
a free offer to try 30 minutes and I was hooked.  I kept it like a emergency 
helper.  But, now with the free 5 minute calls I rarely use the 30 minutes a 
month.  And, When I’m stuck needing a pair of eyes it is great to have a 
trained  person with skills and tools available to help. 

I’d recommend to try it out and keep the app on the phone.  If you are lucky 
enough to be in a country where it works it could help out in a pinch. 

Example, I was building a garden shed and my talking tape measure fell 
out of my pocket.  I needed it to keep working.  I used Aira and in a moment I 
had it back.  It had bounced under the leaves but the agent still spotted it.  
Another time I got disoriented in my yard.  I called and they got me turned 
back around so I could find my way back.  

They now help more with crossing streets.  In the beginning they didn’t 
do that. 

And in the US more and more locations have free service, air ports, busses, sub 
ways, college campuses, drug stores, department stores and so on.

I once used free access at a drug store to get a tour.  I had no idea 
they had such a variety of things there!  

They can now even share your Mac computer screen and fill in captures.  I had 
difficulty getting text to enter in a form field last week and they just put 
the focus in the spot and then it worked.


So, even if you just use the free 5 minute calls now and then it is nice to 
have in your tool box.

In other countries bemyeyes can do some of the functionality.  But, Aira has 
agents waiting.  They are trained and have a dashboard ready to use to assist.  
It has things like maps of the airports you might be at. The ability to take a 
picture and magnify it to help you know what is around you.  They can even 
google things or help on a shopping quest.  Some of the agents are not only 
well trained but have background in Orientation and mobility and other useful 
areas.

Eric Caron 


> On Mar 17, 2020, at 10:17 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> OK, its your loss if you choose not to check it out.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> On Mar 17, 2020, at 21:00, Petrus Tuerlings  <mailto:petrus.t...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> Thank you, but I don’t think I would use it. I was just curious.
> 
> Sent from Petrus's iPhone
> 
>> On 18/03/2020, at 14:40, Brad Snyder > <mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:
>> 
> 
> Aira is available in New Zealand. Just download the Aira iOS app, setup an 
> account and you are good to go.
> You may use my email address as a referral and get yourself 30 free minutes.
> 
> Brad
> wb...@swbell.net <mailto:wb...@swbell.net>
> 
> 
> On Mar 17, 2020, at 20:18, Petrus Tuerlings  <mailto:petrus.t...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> I’m not a student or Teacher, but is this only available in the US OR OTHER 
> COUNTRIES AS WELL?
> 
>> On 18/03/2020, at 14:15, Eric Caron > <mailto:eric.caro...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hi listers,
>> 
>> I’m sure Aira has been discussed in the past.  I wanted to post the below as 
>> it would be very helpful to current blind college students.  
>> 
>>  I just wish they would also offer it to blind teachers as they are also 
>> learning fast how to run on line teaching. 
>> 
>> Also, if you are planning to join Aira for more than the free 5 minute calls 
>> be sure to go through a current user so that you both get additional minutes.
>> 
>> Here is the part of the post for college students.
>> 
>> Aira is the popular app that connects a trained sighted person to assist a 
>> blind person with tasks. 
>> 
>>  I am posting part of a email message below that offers free service to 
>> blind college students for the rest of the semester. 
>> 
>> If you know a student please share as this could be a big help when learning 
>> new on line distance learning software.  Now if only they offered it to 
>> blind teachers as well! 
>> 
>> One other note.  If you are thinking about joining Aira go through a current 
>> blind user and both of you will get free minutes to use.
>> 
>> They also now easily screen share on the Mac and iPhone.
>> 
>> Eric Caron 
>> 
>> Free Offer - College Students in Need of Aira
>> 
>> We know that many universities and colleges are rapidly shifting to distance 
>> learning.  We’ve heard that some materials and software being used are 
>> inaccessible so we will be offering free Aira for any college student for 
>> the remainder of the spring semester endi

Mail in Catalina

2020-03-22 Thread Eric Caron
Hi listers,

One thing I have noticed after updating to Catalina is that moving 
messages to a mail box is slow with mail stating busy and then after a pause 
finally opening up the context menu and eventually the list to move to a 
mailbox. 

Does this improve with time?  It has been about a week.  

Have others noticed this behavior?

I do have a lot of accounts and a lot of mailboxes where I organize 
information.  I expect I have a lot more mail than the average user.

Eric Caron

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Re: Mail in Catalina

2020-03-23 Thread Eric Caron
Hi Tim,

I had the slow move happen once before after upgrading and after a 
period of time it seemed to improve. 

This time I finally noticed that the response time in mail was improved to 
almost normal if I didn’t have a lot of mail windows open.

Somehow while I work in mail I end up with many open windows.  I have to 
remember now and then to look at the window chooser and it may say 12 windows 
are open or even more then 20.  Once I close them all the app is more 
responsive.

I’m not sure how I end up opening so many windows in mail.  I am just opening 
messages or reading things or sending things and suddenly if I check the window 
chooser I have all kinds of  mail windows open.

Any idea why that happens? 

But, in the meantime closing them all fixes the sluggish response.

Your response stating you have not seen this caused me to keep experimenting 
until I found a solution.

I didn’t notice this in my  last OS but still had the many open windows issue. 

My computer is a 2018 Mac book pro with 16 gigs ram so that should  be able to 
handle moving a message to a mail box.

Eric Caron 


> On Mar 23, 2020, at 12:01 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> I have not noticed this at all.  Moving messages behaves just the same as it 
> has in previous iterations and is not slow at all.
> 
> Later...
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Mar 22, 2020, at 13:03, Eric Caron  <mailto:eric.caro...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> Hi listers,
> 
>   One thing I have noticed after updating to Catalina is that moving 
> messages to a mail box is slow with mail stating busy and then after a pause 
> finally opening up the context menu and eventually the list to move to a 
> mailbox. 
> 
>   Does this improve with time?  It has been about a week.  
> 
> Have others noticed this behavior?
> 
>   I do have a lot of accounts and a lot of mailboxes where I organize 
> information.  I expect I have a lot more mail than the average user.
> 
> Eric Caron
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Re: Mail in Catalina

2020-03-24 Thread Eric Caron
Hi Tim,

I have 7 accounts. One of them is off line as it is a old employer, but 
I have many emails in that account I might want to search through in the 
future.  Of the others one is not very active.  The other 5 are established 
with many mailboxes each. 

I use the same processes you described.  Still by mid day I end up with many 
windows  open.  

Even though having all windows closed helps a lot moving a message is still 
slow.

The way I move a message is to open the context menu and go to copy, I arrow up 
once to move and then right arrow.  I enter a few letters of the mail box name 
and when it comes up press enter.

It is slow when I first do this.  If I move a second message it is often more 
responsive.  It was not doing this in Mojave, although I think it did in the 
beginning.  

Thank you for the thoughtful replies.

It is now slow but much more usable. 

I keep a lot of messages in organized mailboxes under many accounts and I 
wonder if there is some time needed for everything to settle in after the OS 
upgrade.

Eric Caron 

> On Mar 23, 2020, at 1:11 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Eric,
> 
> Yes, that machine should handle things just fine.  What process do you use 
> when opening mail messages?  Do you have multiple mail accounts that you're 
> accessing or just one with many messages?  Myself, I do have five main mail 
> accounts that I'm accessing at any given time.  I use the return key to open 
> the message, then cmd-w to close the message if I don't have to act on it 
> immediately.  cmd-r to reply then cmd-shift-d to send.
> 
> HTH.
> 
> Later...
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Mar 23, 2020, at 11:04, Eric Caron  <mailto:eric.caro...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> Hi Tim,
> 
>   I had the slow move happen once before after upgrading and after a 
> period of time it seemed to improve. 
> 
> This time I finally noticed that the response time in mail was improved to 
> almost normal if I didn’t have a lot of mail windows open.
> 
> Somehow while I work in mail I end up with many open windows.  I have to 
> remember now and then to look at the window chooser and it may say 12 windows 
> are open or even more then 20.  Once I close them all the app is more 
> responsive.
> 
> I’m not sure how I end up opening so many windows in mail.  I am just opening 
> messages or reading things or sending things and suddenly if I check the 
> window chooser I have all kinds of  mail windows open.
> 
> Any idea why that happens? 
> 
> But, in the meantime closing them all fixes the sluggish response.
> 
> Your response stating you have not seen this caused me to keep experimenting 
> until I found a solution.
> 
> I didn’t notice this in my  last OS but still had the many open windows 
> issue. 
> 
> My computer is a 2018 Mac book pro with 16 gigs ram so that should  be able 
> to handle moving a message to a mail box.
> 
> Eric Caron 
> 
> 
>> On Mar 23, 2020, at 12:01 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> I have not noticed this at all.  Moving messages behaves just the same as it 
>> has in previous iterations and is not slow at all.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Jamf Certified Tech
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Mar 22, 2020, at 13:03, Eric Caron > <mailto:eric.caro...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi listers,
>> 
>>  One thing I have noticed after updating to Catalina is that moving 
>> messages to a mail box is slow with mail stating busy and then after a pause 
>> finally opening up the context menu and eventually the list to move to a 
>> mailbox. 
>> 
>>  Does this improve with time?  It has been about a week.  
>> 
>> Have others noticed this behavior?
>> 
>>  I do have a lot of accounts and a lot of mailboxes where I organize 
>> information.  I expect I have a lot more mail than the average user.
>> 
>> Eric Caron
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Cut and paste from Mac to iphone

2020-03-25 Thread Eric Caron
Hi listers,

Today, for the first time since upgrading I tried to copy text into my 
Mac clipboard and paste with my iPhone. 

I’ve done this a few times in the past and found it helpful.

I have bluetooth on both Mac and iPhone turned on.

I copy the text on the Mac.  When I enter a text field on the iPhone I used to 
get a edit option with paste.  Now it doesn’t show up.  

Any ideas how to trouble shoot this useful function?

Mack is Mac book pro 2015 iPhone is 10 S. iOS 13

Thanks,

Eric Caron 

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Re: Mail in Catalina

2020-03-25 Thread Eric Caron
Hi Tim,

I did some additional experimentation.  I don’t expect to solve this 
but here is something interesting. 

If I press the context menu and then try to go to move it is slow and usually 
says mail busy at least once. 

However, If I press the context menu and then close it and immediately open it 
again my computer is snappy and I can move the email quickly.

Very strange.

But for now it makes me a little less crazy to do it this way as I’m not 
waiting for the computer to respond.

Just thought I’d share in case someone else experiences this.

Glad your family is all together.  We  unfortunately have a member in a distant 
country in quarantine and after 13 days of testing negative now tested 
positive.  And, Vermont USA where I live is now on lock down.

Crazy times, but man, I appreciate my technology more then ever!

Eric Caron 


> On Mar 24, 2020, at 4:55 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Eric,
> 
> The process you've outlined is more or less the same as I.  Wow, either great 
> minds think alike, or fools seldom differ :).  My MBP is similar to yours in 
> that it is a 2017 model with 16 GB RAM, 4 Thunderbolt ports, Touch Bar etc.  
> I move messages from one account into a different account's mailbox sometimes 
> as well, and it seems seamless to me.  Maybe I'm missing something, or maybe 
> I'm just having better luck than you.
> 
> Later...
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Mar 24, 2020, at 14:47, Eric Caron  <mailto:eric.caro...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> Hi Tim,
> 
>   I have 7 accounts. One of them is off line as it is a old employer, but 
> I have many emails in that account I might want to search through in the 
> future.  Of the others one is not very active.  The other 5 are established 
> with many mailboxes each. 
> 
> I use the same processes you described.  Still by mid day I end up with many 
> windows  open.  
> 
> Even though having all windows closed helps a lot moving a message is still 
> slow.
> 
> The way I move a message is to open the context menu and go to copy, I arrow 
> up once to move and then right arrow.  I enter a few letters of the mail box 
> name and when it comes up press enter.
> 
> It is slow when I first do this.  If I move a second message it is often more 
> responsive.  It was not doing this in Mojave, although I think it did in the 
> beginning.  
> 
> Thank you for the thoughtful replies.
> 
> It is now slow but much more usable. 
> 
> I keep a lot of messages in organized mailboxes under many accounts and I 
> wonder if there is some time needed for everything to settle in after the OS 
> upgrade.
> 
> Eric Caron 
> 
>> On Mar 23, 2020, at 1:11 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Eric,
>> 
>> Yes, that machine should handle things just fine.  What process do you use 
>> when opening mail messages?  Do you have multiple mail accounts that you're 
>> accessing or just one with many messages?  Myself, I do have five main mail 
>> accounts that I'm accessing at any given time.  I use the return key to open 
>> the message, then cmd-w to close the message if I don't have to act on it 
>> immediately.  cmd-r to reply then cmd-shift-d to send.
>> 
>> HTH.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Jamf Certified Tech
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Mar 23, 2020, at 11:04, Eric Caron > <mailto:eric.caro...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Tim,
>> 
>>  I had the slow move happen once before after upgrading and after a 
>> period of time it seemed to improve. 
>> 
>> This time I finally noticed that the response time in mail was improved to 
>> almost normal if I didn’t have a lot of mail windows open.
>> 
>> Somehow while I work in mail I end up with many open windows.  I have to 
>> remember now and then to look at the window chooser and it may say 12 
>> windows are open or even more then 20.  Once I close them all the app is 
>> more responsive.
>> 
>> I’m not sure how I end up opening so many windows in mail.  I am just 
>> opening messages or reading things or sending things and suddenly if I check 
>> the window chooser I have all kinds of  mail windows open.
>> 
>> Any idea why that happens? 
>> 
>> But, in the meantime closing them all fixes the sluggish response.
>> 
>>

Re: Cut and paste from Mac to iphone

2020-03-25 Thread Eric Caron
Hi Tim,

I double checked hand off and both are turned on.  Mac and iPhone.  I 
have a funny feeling I’m doing something silly like not pasting correctly or 
not looking for the correct rotor setting.

I was copying from Pages on the Mac and trying to paste the content as a 
Facebook post into a group I incompetently administer.

I’m going to update to iOS 13.4  and try again.

 I think it might have actually been in the app switcher.

 did hear my ipHone say something like hand off error at one point but not sure 
when or where to find that error message.

It can be Fun solving these puzzles.

Eric Caron 

> On Mar 25, 2020, at 2:06 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> You need more than just Bluetooth enabled.  You need Hand-off turned on for 
> both, Bluetooth on, and both on the same WiFi network of course.  Hand-off is 
> in the General pane of System Prefs on the Mac.  It's also in General of the 
> Settings app on iOS/iPadOS.
> 
> Later...
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Mar 25, 2020, at 11:58, Eric Caron  <mailto:eric.caro...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> Hi listers,
> 
>   Today, for the first time since upgrading I tried to copy text into my 
> Mac clipboard and paste with my iPhone. 
> 
>   I’ve done this a few times in the past and found it helpful.
> 
> I have bluetooth on both Mac and iPhone turned on.
> 
> I copy the text on the Mac.  When I enter a text field on the iPhone I used 
> to get a edit option with paste.  Now it doesn’t show up.  
> 
> Any ideas how to trouble shoot this useful function?
> 
> Mack is Mac book pro 2015 iPhone is 10 S. iOS 13
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Eric Caron 
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Re: Mail in Catalina

2020-03-26 Thread Eric Caron
Hi Tim and others,
Sluggish moving of mail messages solved.

Well, In the process of trying to get hand off to work again I turned off and 
restarted my computer.  And though I’m still working on solving the hand off 
issue the sluggish mail moving behavior is gone.  Got to love that restart 
problem solving technique.  Keep reminding me of this next time I have an 
unusual behavior not seen by others.

Thanks to all those working with me through these computer quirks.

I don’t think I would have upgraded to Catalina If I didn’t know this support 
list was out there.

Eric Caron 



> On Mar 25, 2020, at 3:31 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Strange indeed.  Not particularly logical, but often inconsistent things like 
> this don't have much logic to them.
> 
> Later...
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Mar 25, 2020, at 12:06, Eric Caron  <mailto:eric.caro...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> Hi Tim,
> 
>   I did some additional experimentation.  I don’t expect to solve this 
> but here is something interesting. 
> 
> If I press the context menu and then try to go to move it is slow and usually 
> says mail busy at least once. 
> 
> However, If I press the context menu and then close it and immediately open 
> it again my computer is snappy and I can move the email quickly.
> 
> Very strange.
> 
> But for now it makes me a little less crazy to do it this way as I’m not 
> waiting for the computer to respond.
> 
> Just thought I’d share in case someone else experiences this.
> 
> Glad your family is all together.  We  unfortunately have a member in a 
> distant country in quarantine and after 13 days of testing negative now 
> tested positive.  And, Vermont USA where I live is now on lock down.
> 
> Crazy times, but man, I appreciate my technology more then ever!
> 
> Eric Caron 
> 
> 
>> On Mar 24, 2020, at 4:55 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Eric,
>> 
>> The process you've outlined is more or less the same as I.  Wow, either 
>> great minds think alike, or fools seldom differ :).  My MBP is similar to 
>> yours in that it is a 2017 model with 16 GB RAM, 4 Thunderbolt ports, Touch 
>> Bar etc.  I move messages from one account into a different account's 
>> mailbox sometimes as well, and it seems seamless to me.  Maybe I'm missing 
>> something, or maybe I'm just having better luck than you.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Jamf Certified Tech
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Mar 24, 2020, at 14:47, Eric Caron > <mailto:eric.caro...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Tim,
>> 
>>  I have 7 accounts. One of them is off line as it is a old employer, but 
>> I have many emails in that account I might want to search through in the 
>> future.  Of the others one is not very active.  The other 5 are established 
>> with many mailboxes each. 
>> 
>> I use the same processes you described.  Still by mid day I end up with many 
>> windows  open.  
>> 
>> Even though having all windows closed helps a lot moving a message is still 
>> slow.
>> 
>> The way I move a message is to open the context menu and go to copy, I arrow 
>> up once to move and then right arrow.  I enter a few letters of the mail box 
>> name and when it comes up press enter.
>> 
>> It is slow when I first do this.  If I move a second message it is often 
>> more responsive.  It was not doing this in Mojave, although I think it did 
>> in the beginning.  
>> 
>> Thank you for the thoughtful replies.
>> 
>> It is now slow but much more usable. 
>> 
>> I keep a lot of messages in organized mailboxes under many accounts and I 
>> wonder if there is some time needed for everything to settle in after the OS 
>> upgrade.
>> 
>> Eric Caron 
>> 
>>> On Mar 23, 2020, at 1:11 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Eric,
>>> 
>>> Yes, that machine should handle things just fine.  What process do you use 
>>> when opening mail messages?  Do you have multiple mail accounts that you're 
>>> accessing or just one with many messages?  Myself, I do have five main mail 
>>> accounts that I'm acce

Re: Cut and paste from Mac to iphone

2020-03-26 Thread Eric Caron
Hi Brad and others,

I’m glad I’m not the only one experienced hand off not working.  I was starting 
to think I was alone with this.

I have restarted iPhone and Mac, turned off Hand off and turned on again on 
both devices. I’ve tried selecting on the Mac and pasting on the iPhone in an 
edit field.  Only one time did the Edit option show up in the rotor and it 
didn’t have a paste option.  Most times that option is missing but I have a 
select text option.

So if anyone has some tips and tricks I’d be happy to try them. 

I’ll probably try again to clean out my app switcher , toggle the settings, 
restart the devices, and see if those steps bring it back up again.

Eric Caron 

> On Mar 25, 2020, at 4:45 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> I experience that same issue sometimes on my Mac mini that is still running 
> High Sierra.  I have learned to cycle VO off and then back on again.  This 
> usually fixes most gremlins.
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> On Mar 25, 2020, at 15:29, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> sometimes, a boring old restart does the trick.  When I updated to 10.15.4 on 
> my MBP, the Extras Menus weren't working.  Every time I did a VO-m-m, the 
> first one went to the main Menubar, and the second went to my Desktop.  I 
> turned VO off and on, quit apps, all with no joy.  I logged out then back in 
> and things went back to normal.  I was getting ready to complain, but it 
> appears that it was an easy fix for me.
> 
> Later...
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
> Apple Teacher
> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Mar 25, 2020, at 13:24, Eric Caron  <mailto:eric.caro...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> Hi Tim,
> 
>   I double checked hand off and both are turned on.  Mac and iPhone.  I 
> have a funny feeling I’m doing something silly like not pasting correctly or 
> not looking for the correct rotor setting.
> 
> I was copying from Pages on the Mac and trying to paste the content as a 
> Facebook post into a group I incompetently administer.
> 
> I’m going to update to iOS 13.4  and try again.
> 
>  I think it might have actually been in the app switcher.
> 
>  did hear my ipHone say something like hand off error at one point but not 
> sure when or where to find that error message.
> 
> It can be Fun solving these puzzles.
> 
> Eric Caron 
> 
>> On Mar 25, 2020, at 2:06 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> You need more than just Bluetooth enabled.  You need Hand-off turned on for 
>> both, Bluetooth on, and both on the same WiFi network of course.  Hand-off 
>> is in the General pane of System Prefs on the Mac.  It's also in General of 
>> the Settings app on iOS/iPadOS.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Jamf Certified Tech
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Mar 25, 2020, at 11:58, Eric Caron > <mailto:eric.caro...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi listers,
>> 
>>  Today, for the first time since upgrading I tried to copy text into my 
>> Mac clipboard and paste with my iPhone. 
>> 
>>  I’ve done this a few times in the past and found it helpful.
>> 
>> I have bluetooth on both Mac and iPhone turned on.
>> 
>> I copy the text on the Mac.  When I enter a text field on the iPhone I used 
>> to get a edit option with paste.  Now it doesn’t show up.  
>> 
>> Any ideas how to trouble shoot this useful function?
>> 
>> Mack is Mac book pro 2015 iPhone is 10 S. iOS 13
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Eric Caron 
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Re: Cut and paste from Mac to iphone

2020-03-27 Thread Eric Caron
Hi Robert and others,

Robert’s suggestion to turn off Screen Curtin and then try hand off worked for 
me! 

So for now hand off problem solved.

Now that is some strange bug. 

Thanks Robert and everyone for sticking with me through this problem solving 
adventure.

I actually find this feature a useful time saver and a way to write 
understandably on the iPhone. 

Great team work.
I wonder if having screen Curtin on causes other issues.

Now I can move on to my next puzzle I have not been able to solve on my own!

Appreciatively,

Eric Caron 

On Mar 26, 2020, at 11:03 PM, Robert Carter  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> A while back, I discovered that this feature doesn’t work reliably for me if 
> I have screen curtain turned on on the phone.
> 
> Robert Carter
> 
> 
> 
>> On Mar 26, 2020, at 4:04 PM, Brad Snyder > <mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:
>> 
>> Sometimes, when the universal clipboard doesn’t perform as it should, I go 
>> back to the source and re-highlight and do the copy action again.  Usually 
>> things work as expected the second time.  
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> 
>> On Mar 26, 2020, at 15:37, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> When it comes to the universal clipboard, there are some considerations.  I 
>> don't know the specific time restriction, but there is one and I believe 
>> that it is less than 30 seconds, may even be 10 or 15.  So, It is best to 
>> have the iPhone open and ready after copying the text from the Mac.  Also, 
>> the Edit item in the rotor is not always in the same location, sometimes you 
>> need to turn quite a few times to find it.  Lastly, if it doesn't work for 
>> you, confirm that the copy actually took.  That is, for fun, try pasting 
>> into a TextEdit document on your Mac.  If the text pastes, then it's an 
>> issue with the universal clipboard, if it does not, then it was an issue 
>> with the selection/copy action.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Jamf Certified Tech
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Mar 26, 2020, at 14:17, Eric Caron > <mailto:eric.caro...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Brad and others,
>> 
>> I’m glad I’m not the only one experienced hand off not working.  I was 
>> starting to think I was alone with this.
>> 
>> I have restarted iPhone and Mac, turned off Hand off and turned on again on 
>> both devices. I’ve tried selecting on the Mac and pasting on the iPhone in 
>> an edit field.  Only one time did the Edit option show up in the rotor and 
>> it didn’t have a paste option.  Most times that option is missing but I have 
>> a select text option.
>> 
>> So if anyone has some tips and tricks I’d be happy to try them. 
>> 
>> I’ll probably try again to clean out my app switcher , toggle the settings, 
>> restart the devices, and see if those steps bring it back up again.
>> 
>> Eric Caron 
>> 
>>> On Mar 25, 2020, at 4:45 PM, Brad Snyder >> <mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> I experience that same issue sometimes on my Mac mini that is still running 
>>> High Sierra.  I have learned to cycle VO off and then back on again.  This 
>>> usually fixes most gremlins.
>>> 
>>> - Brad -
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Mar 25, 2020, at 15:29, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> sometimes, a boring old restart does the trick.  When I updated to 10.15.4 
>>> on my MBP, the Extras Menus weren't working.  Every time I did a VO-m-m, 
>>> the first one went to the main Menubar, and the second went to my Desktop.  
>>> I turned VO off and on, quit apps, all with no joy.  I logged out then back 
>>> in and things went back to normal.  I was getting ready to complain, but it 
>>> appears that it was an easy fix for me.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Jamf Certified Tech
>>> Apple Teacher
>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On Mar 25, 2020, at 13:24, Eric Caron >> <mailto:eric.caro...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Tim,
>>> 
>>> I double checked hand off and both are turned on.  Mac and iPhone.  I 
>>> have a funny f

Re: Mail in Catalina

2020-03-28 Thread Eric Caron
Hi,

If you are hearing emails being read as they come in it is possible 
that the notifications are set up in a way that speaks them.  I remember 
turning that off in the past.

Eric Caron 


> On Mar 28, 2020, at 8:06 AM, KliphnShari Miller  wrote:
> 
> The issue I have with Catalina and mail, is I have my preview messages to no 
> lines, but voiceover reads mail without being open.  How is this corrected?
> 
> 
>> On Mar 23, 2020, at 12:11 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Eric,
>> 
>> Yes, that machine should handle things just fine.  What process do you use 
>> when opening mail messages?  Do you have multiple mail accounts that you're 
>> accessing or just one with many messages?  Myself, I do have five main mail 
>> accounts that I'm accessing at any given time.  I use the return key to open 
>> the message, then cmd-w to close the message if I don't have to act on it 
>> immediately.  cmd-r to reply then cmd-shift-d to send.
>> 
>> HTH.
>> 
>> Later...
>> 
>> 
>> Tim Kilburn
>> Jamf Certified Tech
>> Apple Teacher
>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>> 
>> On Mar 23, 2020, at 11:04, Eric Caron > <mailto:eric.caro...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Tim,
>> 
>>  I had the slow move happen once before after upgrading and after a 
>> period of time it seemed to improve. 
>> 
>> This time I finally noticed that the response time in mail was improved to 
>> almost normal if I didn’t have a lot of mail windows open.
>> 
>> Somehow while I work in mail I end up with many open windows.  I have to 
>> remember now and then to look at the window chooser and it may say 12 
>> windows are open or even more then 20.  Once I close them all the app is 
>> more responsive.
>> 
>> I’m not sure how I end up opening so many windows in mail.  I am just 
>> opening messages or reading things or sending things and suddenly if I check 
>> the window chooser I have all kinds of  mail windows open.
>> 
>> Any idea why that happens? 
>> 
>> But, in the meantime closing them all fixes the sluggish response.
>> 
>> Your response stating you have not seen this caused me to keep experimenting 
>> until I found a solution.
>> 
>> I didn’t notice this in my  last OS but still had the many open windows 
>> issue. 
>> 
>> My computer is a 2018 Mac book pro with 16 gigs ram so that should  be able 
>> to handle moving a message to a mail box.
>> 
>> Eric Caron 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Mar 23, 2020, at 12:01 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>>> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I have not noticed this at all.  Moving messages behaves just the same as 
>>> it has in previous iterations and is not slow at all.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Jamf Certified Tech
>>> Apple Teacher
>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On Mar 22, 2020, at 13:03, Eric Caron >> <mailto:eric.caro...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi listers,
>>> 
>>> One thing I have noticed after updating to Catalina is that moving 
>>> messages to a mail box is slow with mail stating busy and then after a 
>>> pause finally opening up the context menu and eventually the list to move 
>>> to a mailbox. 
>>> 
>>> Does this improve with time?  It has been about a week.  
>>> 
>>> Have others noticed this behavior?
>>> 
>>> I do have a lot of accounts and a lot of mailboxes where I organize 
>>> information.  I expect I have a lot more mail than the average user.
>>> 
>>> Eric Caron
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Best way to do recorded remote interviews

2020-03-30 Thread Eric Caron
Hi listers,

I’d like to do remote interviews and record them.  I would need to have 
the format in a form I could edit on something like Amadeus Pro. 

I suspect there are people out there on this list, with experience doing this 
for podcasts and other audio productions. 

What would be a good tool to use.  I have a Mac book pro, Audio Hijack Amadeus 
Pro, and I could get a Zoom account or use Skype or FaceTime depending on the 
person I’m interviewing.  Most will have access to a iPhone but I can’t be sure 
of other peoples technology.

Recommendations are appreciated.

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Re: Best way to do recorded remote interviews

2020-04-01 Thread Eric Caron
Thanks,

I’ll check it out.  

I was thinking I’d be able to do a better job recording through my Mac.  Also, 
I will edit on the Mac. 

Tips would be greatly appreciated. 

I’m a basic and rusty user of Amadeus Pro, Audio hijack, and I do have a mixer 
available. 

I don’t have yet other hardware and if that is needed recommendations would be 
great. 

Eric Caron 


> On Mar 31, 2020, at 8:42 AM, KliphnShari Miller  wrote:
> 
> Anchor is a great app, but I think it is for IOS and android only.  But you 
> can export the audio 
> 
> 
>> On Mar 30, 2020, at 3:04 PM, Eric Caron  wrote:
>> 
>> Hi listers,
>> 
>>  I’d like to do remote interviews and record them.  I would need to have 
>> the format in a form I could edit on something like Amadeus Pro. 
>> 
>> I suspect there are people out there on this list, with experience doing 
>> this for podcasts and other audio productions. 
>> 
>> What would be a good tool to use.  I have a Mac book pro, Audio Hijack 
>> Amadeus Pro, and I could get a Zoom account or use Skype or FaceTime 
>> depending on the person I’m interviewing.  Most will have access to a iPhone 
>> but I can’t be sure of other peoples technology.
>> 
>> Recommendations are appreciated.
>> 
>> Eric Caron 
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Re: Back up of music on Icloud

2020-04-04 Thread Eric Caron
Hi,

Others might have better ideas but here is what I do.

I actually pay for iTunes Match to keep all my music backed up and available on 
all devices. 

I also have other sound files and I created a folder in my iCloud Drive for 
that.  Also, if you place a folder with the sound files you want backed up 
either in your Documents Folder or Desk top folder it can be backed up to 
iCloud.  Of course you need to have enough storage space.

Eric Caron 



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> Hello everyone,
> 
> Have you any idea how can I back up music on Icloud?
> 
> Thank you.
> 
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Networking my printer, can I go through my Mac?

2020-04-09 Thread Eric Caron
Hi folks,

My brother laser printer could be networked through my router but I 
would need to access the non accessible touch pad.  My sighted partner gets 
very frustrated with technical things so I can’t rely on a patient helper to 
figure it out. 

I currently have the printer connected  through usb to my Mac.  That is 
fine but I’d like to be able to have other devices such as phones, iPads, and 
another Mac be able to print from the printer. 

Is there a way to have the printer show up for these devices by sharing it 
somehow through my Mac? 

Any tips appreciated.

Eric Caron 

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Re: Networking my printer, can I go through my Mac?

2020-04-09 Thread Eric Caron
Hi Tim,

Hoping for a few more tips.

I followed the directions and went to System prefs and selected printers and I 
checked the share check box. 

But when we go to the print button on a iOS device under print it says select 
printer but nothing shows up. 

Any next steps?

I did restart both the computer, printer, and iOS Device.

Eric 


> On Apr 9, 2020, at 3:09 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
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> Hi,
> 
> Definitely.  Go to System Preferences, Printers & Scanners, select the 
> printer, then V-right to the "share this Printer" checkbox and check it.  
> Basically, that's all you need to do although you can go into the Options & 
> Supplies section if you wish to modify its name.  As long as your computer is 
> turned on an connected to that network, others will be able to print to it 
> through your Mac.
> 
> Later...
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
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> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On Apr 9, 2020, at 12:40, Eric Caron  <mailto:eric.caro...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> Hi folks,
> 
>   My brother laser printer could be networked through my router but I 
> would need to access the non accessible touch pad.  My sighted partner gets 
> very frustrated with technical things so I can’t rely on a patient helper to 
> figure it out. 
> 
>   I currently have the printer connected  through usb to my Mac.  That is 
> fine but I’d like to be able to have other devices such as phones, iPads, and 
> another Mac be able to print from the printer. 
> 
> Is there a way to have the printer show up for these devices by sharing it 
> somehow through my Mac? 
> 
> Any tips appreciated.
> 
> Eric Caron 
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Re: Networking my printer, can I go through my Mac?

2020-04-10 Thread Eric Caron
Hi Tim and others,

Success, My sighted helper was a bit more agreeable and took her time.  
We googled the Brother printer and setting up wifi.  They don’t seem to make 
this very easy.  She found a source that talked her through the layers on the 
touch screen and she was finally able to enter the wifi password. 

After that all devices found the printer and printed easily. 

I didn’t need to really do anything else. 

I did update my software on my Mac but I don’t think that had anything to do 
with it.  I also downloaded the brother printer app on my phone.  It may be 
useful to me but I don’t think it was needed to make the printer available as 
other devices found it without the app. 

I sure wish these devices had talking menus or at lease an app or computer 
access that let us do all the functions from an accessible place. 

Still, the tips here got me headed in the right direction and I was able to 
quickly move past my attempt and into the next place to try. 

I’m very appreciative of the info here. 

And, a bonus is I should be able to use the printer from my other Mac.

Thanks folks.

Eric Caron 




> On Apr 10, 2020, at 4:50 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Eric,
> 
> Is your printer AirPrint capable?  If no, then you won't be able to see it 
> with your iOS/iPadOS devices.  The sharing method I outlined should work fine 
> for other Macs, but will not make a non-AirPrint ready printer sharable to 
> iOS/iPadOS.
> 
> Later...
> 
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Jamf Certified Tech
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> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition)
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> 
> On Apr 10, 2020, at 08:17, Brad Snyder  <mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:
> 
> I have a Brother HL2700DW Multi-function Printer/Scanner, and my experiences 
> are pretty much the same as Janina’s.
> My wife is sighted, so we were able to use the touchpad to connect the 
> printer wirelessly to our network.  I am able to access the printer from all 
> computers, (both Mac and Windows)  on the network.  I can also print from my 
> iPhone and iPad.
> My wife handles the scanning wirelessly from her iMac using the Brother 
> iPrint and Scan application, and says she has no problem saving a scanned 
> file on her computer.
> I recently upgraded my wife’s iMac to Catalina, and installed the 64-bit 
> version of the Brother iPrint and Scan software on her Mac, and my wife 
> commented that she is now able to scan in color, which was not the case with 
> the earlier version. 
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Apr 10, 2020, at 04:07, 'Janina Sajka' via MacVisionaries 
> mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> 
> wrote:
> 
> Hi, Eric:
> 
> Especially if you have a wired ethernet port on your Brother printer,
> you can happily share it across all your networked devices. This is
> exactly what I do with mine, currently an HL2395DW.
> 
> Use Safari to access the relevant resources on support.brother.com 
> <http://support.brother.com/>. You
> will likely need to install drivers that support your specific model.
> 
> I also use the mac address of my printer's ethernet port to dynamically
> assign it the same IP address on every boot which allows me to add the
> machine a globally accessible domain name.
> 
> Note that this also supports wifi access as you probably are providing
> wifi via your router.
> 
> I have found things work pretty much as expected. The exception for me
> is the scan function as mine is a multi-function device. I can scan from
> my Mac, but I can't seem to save the results of my scan into a file.
> That's annoying, but I get around it by using the corresponding Brother
> application on my Android phone, Iprint and Scan, where scanning and
> saving works as expected.
> 
> Best,
> 
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> 
> Eric Caron writes:
>> Hi folks,
>> 
>>  My brother laser printer could be networked through my router but I 
>> would need to access the non accessible touch pad.  My sighted partner gets 
>> very frustrated with technical things so I can’t rely on a patient helper to 
>> figure it out. 
>> 
>>  I currently have the printer connected  through usb to my Mac.  That is 
>> fine but I’d like to be able to have other devices such as phones, iPads, 
>> and another Mac be able to print from the printer. 
>> 
>> Is there a way to have the printer show up for these devices by sharing it 
>> somehow through my Mac? 
>> 
>> Any tips appreciated.
>> 
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Re: Apple Magic Trackpad 2

2020-04-12 Thread Eric Caron
Hi Foks,

Is there a way on the track pad to press enter?  I have not looked in a 
long time.  I used to use the  track pad more but found it silly to have to 
take my hand off to select a button or action.  
I think the best I could do back then was hold down a keyboard button like 
command then press the track pad.  This is why I ended up just focusing on 
keyboard commands.  

I actually liked the track pad commands but not being able to press the default 
action from the track pad was a deal breaker.

Eric Caron 
Hoping it is now doable.



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> I'm sure it's useful for desktops (e.g., Mac Mini, iMac, etc.), enabling the 
> use of trackpad commander in VoiceOver.
> 
> On 4/12/20, 00:48, "'E.T.' via MacVisionaries" 
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>One advantage is if you find the built in trackpad gets in the way, 
>an external one would allow you to disable the built in one so touching 
>it will not cause issues. Plus you can move it to a convenient location 
>like off to the side.
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> From E.T.'s Keyboard...
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>On 4/11/2020 9:33 PM, Petrus Tuerlings wrote:
>> Okay, I’m going to ask a silly question. I’ve never met a magic track 
>> pad before , and was wondering at the advantages if any in having one as 
>> a VoiceOver user?
>> 
>> 
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Help with saving files in Pages

2020-04-18 Thread Eric Caron
Hi Folks,

I’m hoping a Pages user can walk me through the file menu of the Pages 
app.

I need to understand how things work and I think my years as a Microsoft Word 
user is getting in the way.

I’m looking for a easy way to save a document I’m working in and give it a new 
name or save it to a different location.

When I press Save nothing seems to happen but I’m pretty sure it has saved my 
recent changes.

If I press Duplicate it makes a copy but then I’m dumped back into my file and 
have not been able to change the name or save it to a new place.
If I press rename It seems to open and then I’m back in my file without being 
able to give it a new name.

And pressing Move brings me a place where I can select some locations with a 
button but not go more deeply into a folder to save the document.

I’m sure it is me just not understanding the work flow so I’d love some tips on 
saving and naming files in Pages.

Appreciatively,

Eric Caron

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Re: Help with saving files in Pages

2020-04-19 Thread Eric Caron
Hi Brad,

Perfect,  That is exactly the information I needed to keep moving 
forward with Pages. 

Any tips on how to use the rename or move commands in the file menu are 
welcome.  They look like they could be useful if I could figure them out. 

Thanks again Brad for the info I needed to get work done!

Eric Caron 


> On Apr 18, 2020, at 10:52 PM, Brad Snyder  wrote:
> 
> In the File menu, if you hold down the OPTION key, the Duplicate command 
> changes to Save As.
> Or, just use the keyboard command CMD + OPT + SHIFT + S for Save As while 
> working in a document.
> 
> HTH
> 
> - Brad -
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Apr 18, 2020, at 20:55, Eric Caron  <mailto:eric.caro...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> 
> Hi Folks,
> 
>   I’m hoping a Pages user can walk me through the file menu of the Pages 
> app.
> 
> I need to understand how things work and I think my years as a Microsoft Word 
> user is getting in the way.
> 
> I’m looking for a easy way to save a document I’m working in and give it a 
> new name or save it to a different location.
> 
> When I press Save nothing seems to happen but I’m pretty sure it has saved my 
> recent changes.
> 
> If I press Duplicate it makes a copy but then I’m dumped back into my file 
> and have not been able to change the name or save it to a new place.
> If I press rename It seems to open and then I’m back in my file without being 
> able to give it a new name.
> 
> And pressing Move brings me a place where I can select some locations with a 
> button but not go more deeply into a folder to save the document.
> 
> I’m sure it is me just not understanding the work flow so I’d love some tips 
> on saving and naming files in Pages.
> 
> Appreciatively,
> 
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Re: Help with saving files in Pages

2020-04-20 Thread Eric Caron
These responses are so helpful.  I’m still experimenting with all the tips to 
see what works best for me.  But, I”m enjoying Pages much more then I did when 
I first tried it many years ago.  These tips are great and I look forward to 
mastering more of this app.

And, remembering to check the option key alternative menus is going to be 
helpful in many apps.
I’m rally enjoying having a little time to focus on using my Mac more 
fully.

Eric Caron 


> On Apr 19, 2020, at 6:21 PM, Jonathan Cohn  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> If you open system preferences to the General screen, you will find a 
> checkbox called "Ask to keep changes when closing documents" if you check 
> this box, your file dialog will be more like how it is on a windows computer.
> In Macs by default, a lot of programs will automatically save your changes 
> regularly, and when you close them. In these programs the duplicate will 
> create a copy that will then prompt you when you close it as to where to 
> save. If you save more often, then the Apple default, then you can review all 
> your saves  in the "document Actions"  menu that is before the toolbar or in 
> the file->revert to… menu. If you revert to a previous version, then the 
> current will be saved so you could go back to that.
>  . 
> HTH!
> 
> Jonathan Cohn
> 
> 
> 
>> On Apr 18, 2020, at 10:52 PM, Brad Snyder > <mailto:wb...@swbell.net>> wrote:
>> 
>> In the File menu, if you hold down the OPTION key, the Duplicate command 
>> changes to Save As.
>> Or, just use the keyboard command CMD + OPT + SHIFT + S for Save As while 
>> working in a document.
>> 
>> HTH
>> 
>> - Brad -
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Apr 18, 2020, at 20:55, Eric Caron > <mailto:eric.caro...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Folks,
>> 
>>  I’m hoping a Pages user can walk me through the file menu of the Pages 
>> app.
>> 
>> I need to understand how things work and I think my years as a Microsoft 
>> Word user is getting in the way.
>> 
>> I’m looking for a easy way to save a document I’m working in and give it a 
>> new name or save it to a different location.
>> 
>> When I press Save nothing seems to happen but I’m pretty sure it has saved 
>> my recent changes.
>> 
>> If I press Duplicate it makes a copy but then I’m dumped back into my file 
>> and have not been able to change the name or save it to a new place.
>> If I press rename It seems to open and then I’m back in my file without 
>> being able to give it a new name.
>> 
>> And pressing Move brings me a place where I can select some locations with a 
>> button but not go more deeply into a folder to save the document.
>> 
>> I’m sure it is me just not understanding the work flow so I’d love some tips 
>> on saving and naming files in Pages.
>> 
>> Appreciatively,
>> 
>> Eric Caron
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Recommendations for external mic and possibly mixer

2020-04-22 Thread Eric Caron
Hi folks,

I used to do podcasts but then work and life kept me very busy for 
several years.  Now I’ve had the desire to do some hopefully helpful podcasts 
again.  But technology has gone way ahead of me.  

I’ve noticed that sound has vastly improved in podcasts.  I suspect 
more people are using usb microphones on their computers.  In some group zoom 
meetings and some podcasts the differences are amazing.  Most people sound ok, 
probably using the computer mic.  Others sound like they are standing in the 
room next to me!

Can I get some recommendations for a “reasonable “ not the ultimate expensive 
choices on a mic and possibly a simple mixer that would work well with my 2018 
MacBook Pro? 

I’d like to nail this down before exploring my iPhone options.

My goal is to be able to do interviews with one or possibly two people remotely 
using zoom or similar platform.  I also plan to do some simple software and 
application demonstrations, so this would be my voice and the computer or 
iPhone.

Hard ware is my first priority and then tips on how to use it!

Appreciatively,

Eric Caron 


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Re: Silencing VoiceOver with the control key

2020-05-03 Thread Eric Caron
Hi Petrus,

Yes, I brought this up earlier. 

For me it works sometimes.  If not working what happens is I press it 
and Voice over just keeps talking.  I have to restart Voice over and then the 
Control key will work correctly. Unfortunately it doesn’t last all that long 
and I’m back to turning voice over off and on again. 

It is nice when it works. 

Best of luck.

Eric Caron 


> On May 3, 2020, at 9:26 PM, Petrus Tuerlings  wrote:
> 
> I just tested it again, I can report that I am  most definitely  pressing it 
> once. I’ve always had problems with the control key on this machine, first 
> thing in the morning once I’ve opened my lid and start using the computer it 
> takes about three or four presses of the control key before it silences 
> VoiceOver. Almost like it needs to warm up. But when I test it on my wife’s 
> MacBook it behaves as it should every time. It’s just the control key on my 
> machine that refuses to play nicely.
> 
>> On 4/05/2020, at 13:09, alia robinson > <mailto:ali...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> it is, works everytime, but you need to just press it once. if you press it 
>> again it will resume. you must be pressing it twice.
>> 
>> On May 3, 2020, at 8:57 PM, Petrus Tuerlings > <mailto:petrus.t...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> I know this was discussed a few weeks back but can’t remember if there was a 
>> solution?
>> If I use the VO+A to read all on an open email and I press the control key 
>> to shut Voiceover up because my wife is talking to me, it will shut up for 
>> about five seconds and then carry on reading. No matter how many times I 
>> press the control key VoiceOver will start reading again after five seconds 
>> or so. So I just end up slamming the lid down just to keep it quiet. Suppose 
>> I could mute VoiceOver but I thought the control key was the way to do it.
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Re: Silencing VoiceOver with the control key

2020-05-04 Thread Eric Caron
It would be helpful if it worked.  It would be a quick way to stop speech in 
all kinds of situations.  Mostly when my wife wants to tell me something and 
the computer is talking so I can’t hear.  But also when on a phone call, or 
when I want to silence a long unneeded computer ramble. 

I have learned to restart voice over or turn the volume down but the control 
key is faster and easier. And it has the advantage that a second press starts 
speech where it left off. 

I notice just now that if I close my lid and then reopen the control key 
feature no longer works.  I have to restart Voice over.  

Unfortunately due to an active cat it is best if I shut my lid often.

I’ll pay attention to see what else triggers the failure.

Eric Caron 



> On May 4, 2020, at 9:16 AM, Anders Holmberg  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> It seems to do so on my computer using all english speaking voices but not 
> when i use my swedish voice.
> Not sure why but thats how it is here.
> /A
> 
>> 4 maj 2020 kl. 02:57 skrev Petrus Tuerlings > <mailto:petrus.t...@gmail.com>>:
>> 
>> Hi all,
>> I know this was discussed a few weeks back but can’t remember if there was a 
>> solution?
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>> to shut Voiceover up because my wife is talking to me, it will shut up for 
>> about five seconds and then carry on reading. No matter how many times I 
>> press the control key VoiceOver will start reading again after five seconds 
>> or so. So I just end up slamming the lid down just to keep it quiet. Suppose 
>> I could mute VoiceOver but I thought the control key was the way to do it.
>> Sent from Petrus' MacBook 
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Re: managing mail on the IPhone.

2012-03-01 Thread Eric Caron
Hi Jessica,

this is not a area I   use a lot, as once I got it working I never 
touched the settings again.  But, I can offer a few general tips and hopefully 
others can provide you more detailed help.

First, I remember when I first started using my Google account on the iPhone 
there was no delete button.  You have a archive button instead.  Use that as 
you would delete and don't move things to trash.  Someone else will need to 
chime in on how to get the delete button to show up, that is if you want it to. 
 some people prefer the Archive button.

In settings you can change the mail behavior for downloading messages.  I have 
mine set up to only download when I open Mail.  this will give you the behavior 
you want.  Again a better expert can walk you through the settings but if you 
look under settings then mail, you should find it.

Hope this info helps a little.

eric Caron 

On Mar 2, 2012, at 12:45 AM, Jessica wrote:

> I just tried using my Gmail acount on my IPhone, and everything seemed to be 
> going fairly well, until I started realizing that first of all, I wasn't sure 
> if the "move," command was actually deleting my messages, sense I don't see a 
> button to delete them, so I just told it to move them to my trash folder.  
> Then next thing I knew, it was downloading them faster than I could move 
> them, and I can't find an option to make this stop, which is eating away at 
> my battery and cluttering up my phone, and I don't want my mail to 
> automaticly download anyway, sense my e-mail isn't my whole life lol.
>   So with that being said, can anyone help with this?
> Are you looking for a free home based business that will also pay you a good 
> income? Most likely, the answer is "yes," so if that is the case then come 
> check out Tmi wireless!
> We're an internet sales and marketing company that sells a variety of items 
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How to use the archives?

2012-03-04 Thread Eric Caron
Dear listers,

I'm rather intimidated with using searches.  Even Google sometimes 
confuses me.  So, I've not used the search functions available in this list. 
I'm wondering if someone would post directions on how to use the archives for 
this list.  A podcast would also be very welcome.  Also if the process is 
different for the viphone list then tips on searching there would be 
appreciated.

I'm ready to give this a good try.

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Re: Recording Audio

2012-03-18 Thread Eric Caron
Hi Jamie,

The three options I hear most people talk about are, the Voice Recorder that 
comes with the phone. Voxie Recorder  and my personal favorite List Recorder.  
List recorder is designed for the voice over user. 

Eric Caron 


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> Does anyone have a suggestion for an accessible IPhone app to record audio?
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Re: What is the difference between the reminder and the calendar on the new update on the IOS 5.1

2012-04-02 Thread Eric Caron
Hi Jennifer, 

I did two podcasts on how to use the Reminders App from a VoiceOver 
perspective.  You can find them at applevis.com.  My purpose in doing the 
podcasts was to show a person just like you how to use the app and what the 
features were.  I hope you will try them out.  

Eric Caron  


On Apr 1, 2012, at 6:32 PM, Jennifer Perdue wrote:

> Could you kind of give me an idea of how to use it better.  
> 
> I try to change the dates of the reminders but that seems like a big hassle 
> and I sure could use some help.
> 
> Also, I think you were the one that was trying to teach me about the message 
> headers.  I am using the command O to open messages now and if you could be 
> so kind, I could use a baby step tutorial on how to reply to a specific 
> sender and not the list again.  I know you tried before but could you give me 
> another chance?
> 
> Thanks for your patience and if you don't want to go through it again I 
> totally understand.  
> 
> Also, could you tell me if my signature is being sent in this message.
> 
> If not could you tell me how to get it started too?
> 
> Thanks again.
> On Apr 1, 2012, at 5:24 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
> 
>> The reminder app is more for "to-do" sorts of tasks. The calendar is more 
>> for specific events at specific dates and times. There's kind of a 
>> crossover, as I use one or the other sometimes, depending on the task or 
>> event.
>> 
>> Teresa
>> 
>> "Nobody ever tells me anything!"--James Forsyte, quoted in the Forsyte Saga
>> 
>> On Apr 1, 2012, at 3:07 PM, Jennifer Perdue wrote:
>> 
>>> I just updated my 3gs to IOS 5.1 and found the reminder app on the phone.  
>>> What is the difference between that and the calendar and what is the 
>>> easiest way to use that app as I found it difficult to use.
>>> 
>>> Thanks for all your help.
>>> 
>>> Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks
>>> On Apr 1, 2012, at 3:27 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I use to have a braille connect 12 but it was hard on my hands. I heard 
>>>> about your recent set up as a friend of yours and mine told me!
>>>> 
>>>> On 1 Apr 2012, at 01:56 AM, Thuy Mallalieu  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Kawal. I also have a Eurobraille Esys but with 12 cells. It's  really 
>>>>> good, but mine has been a bit unreliable and I've had to send it back 3 
>>>>> times for updating firmware and repairs.
>>>>> Also the note-taking functions are very basic and the diary crashes every 
>>>>> so often, so I have to keep resetting it. My favorite setup at the moment 
>>>>> is the I-phone with a Braille connect 12 and Rites Keyboard stuck over 
>>>>> the top of the connect 12 with velcro. It's a really compact setup with 
>>>>> qwerty input and braille output. The other good thing about the Braille 
>>>>> connect is that it has a standby mode and wakes up whenever the iPhone 
>>>>> comes on so you can see the caller id even when the speech is turned off. 
>>>>> They used to do a 24 cell version of the Braille connect too, but 
>>>>> Human-ware never sold any in this country (UK), which is a real shame in 
>>>>> my opinion.
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>> Thuy
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 31 Mar 2012, at 21:08, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hello Thuy.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I know what the product is now and have cancelled the order. I already 
>>>>>> have a Euro braille 40 and may be one day I want a 24 cell (in my 
>>>>>> dreams)!
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks for replying.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Kawal.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 31 Mar 2012, at 02:27 PM, Thuy Mallalieu  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi  Kawal. Isn't this Braille input only? I have the Braille pen 12, 
>>>>>>> which has the display and Braille keyboard, but that's just under 1K. 
>>>>>>> It has really nice Braille dots and good keyboard, but no cursor 
>>>>>>> routing, which makes it a bit of a pain editing texts  and activating 
>>>>>>> apps. Also, the command to wake it up is space with K, which overrides  
>>>>>>> the keyboard help command. Hope this helps?
>>&

Re: What is the difference between the reminder and the calendar on the new update on the IOS 5.1

2012-04-02 Thread Eric Caron
Jennifer and any others interested in the Reminders app.  Here are the links to 
the podcasts I did on using the App.  I hope these help.

http://www.applevis.com/podcasts/episodes/using-reminders-create-and-manage-tasks-and-lists

http://www.applevis.com/podcasts/episodes/exploring-some-advanced-features-reminders-app


Eric Caron 
On Apr 2, 2012, at 12:36 PM, Eric Caron wrote:

> Hi Jennifer, 
> 
>   I did two podcasts on how to use the Reminders App from a VoiceOver 
> perspective.  You can find them at applevis.com.  My purpose in doing the 
> podcasts was to show a person just like you how to use the app and what the 
> features were.  I hope you will try them out.  
> 
> Eric Caron  
> 
> 
> On Apr 1, 2012, at 6:32 PM, Jennifer Perdue wrote:
> 
>> Could you kind of give me an idea of how to use it better.  
>> 
>> I try to change the dates of the reminders but that seems like a big hassle 
>> and I sure could use some help.
>> 
>> Also, I think you were the one that was trying to teach me about the message 
>> headers.  I am using the command O to open messages now and if you could be 
>> so kind, I could use a baby step tutorial on how to reply to a specific 
>> sender and not the list again.  I know you tried before but could you give 
>> me another chance?
>> 
>> Thanks for your patience and if you don't want to go through it again I 
>> totally understand.  
>> 
>> Also, could you tell me if my signature is being sent in this message.
>> 
>> If not could you tell me how to get it started too?
>> 
>> Thanks again.
>> On Apr 1, 2012, at 5:24 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
>> 
>>> The reminder app is more for "to-do" sorts of tasks. The calendar is more 
>>> for specific events at specific dates and times. There's kind of a 
>>> crossover, as I use one or the other sometimes, depending on the task or 
>>> event.
>>> 
>>> Teresa
>>> 
>>> "Nobody ever tells me anything!"--James Forsyte, quoted in the Forsyte Saga
>>> 
>>> On Apr 1, 2012, at 3:07 PM, Jennifer Perdue wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I just updated my 3gs to IOS 5.1 and found the reminder app on the phone.  
>>>> What is the difference between that and the calendar and what is the 
>>>> easiest way to use that app as I found it difficult to use.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks for all your help.
>>>> 
>>>> Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks
>>>> On Apr 1, 2012, at 3:27 PM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> I use to have a braille connect 12 but it was hard on my hands. I heard 
>>>>> about your recent set up as a friend of yours and mine told me!
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 1 Apr 2012, at 01:56 AM, Thuy Mallalieu  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi Kawal. I also have a Eurobraille Esys but with 12 cells. It's  really 
>>>>>> good, but mine has been a bit unreliable and I've had to send it back 3 
>>>>>> times for updating firmware and repairs.
>>>>>> Also the note-taking functions are very basic and the diary crashes 
>>>>>> every so often, so I have to keep resetting it. My favorite setup at the 
>>>>>> moment is the I-phone with a Braille connect 12 and Rites Keyboard stuck 
>>>>>> over the top of the connect 12 with velcro. It's a really compact setup 
>>>>>> with qwerty input and braille output. The other good thing about the 
>>>>>> Braille connect is that it has a standby mode and wakes up whenever the 
>>>>>> iPhone comes on so you can see the caller id even when the speech is 
>>>>>> turned off. They used to do a 24 cell version of the Braille connect 
>>>>>> too, but Human-ware never sold any in this country (UK), which is a real 
>>>>>> shame in my opinion.
>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>> Thuy
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 31 Mar 2012, at 21:08, Kawal Gucukoglu  wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hello Thuy.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I know what the product is now and have cancelled the order. I already 
>>>>>>> have a Euro braille 40 and may be one day I want a 24 cell (in my 
>>>>>>> dreams)!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks for replying.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Kawal.
>>>&

What's new in List Recorder 2.3 podcast

2012-04-05 Thread Eric Caron
Hello Listers,


This is probably more appropriate for the viPhone list, but I'm not 
sure my messages are getting through over there.  Can't see my messages or 
replies for the past 3 days or so.

Below is a ;podcast that lives at applevis.com.  It is a short review of the 
new features in List Recorder 2.3.  It is the same info I posted in writing 
some time ago.  I learn best from podcasts so I made this for those who might 
find it useful.  This is not designed for a new user of List recorder.  For 
podcasts like that go to sixthmode.com.  I plan to do more podcasts on this app 
that will show the more advanced features in detail. 
I sure hope this message gets out there!  I understand this update has 
just come out in the app store.
link is below.

Eric Caron 
http://www.applevis.com/podcasts/episodes/list-recorder-23-fixes-changes-and-improvements

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Returning to a old stereo

2012-04-22 Thread Eric Caron
Hello Listers,

I'm having a lot of trouble getting my head around the new surround 
sound systems.  What I think might work best for me is to find a older powerful 
stereo receiver or receiver and amp that I can plug my computer directly to and 
perhaps also connect a airport express or Apple TV.

I don't own a TV and don't enjoy listening to TV or even movies very much.  I 
do love solid strong clear stereo music.  

So If anyone else out there can advise me here is what I've done so far.

I've contacted a electronics repair center and asked them to keep a look out 
for a solid older system.  I would like 200 wats of power and old fashioned 
controls.  

Here are some concerns.

Would the Apple Express give me air play in the best way or would a Apple TV 
give any advantages in this set up?
Could I run a sub woofer from a older system like that? 
Any tips on what system might work happily with my Mac?

Finally,  I'm not avers to using a newer unit but am totally baffled by all the 
stuff on the remote and all the TV related stuff.  Is there a retro receiver 
out there or a new one with old fashioned capability? 

My Mac is my entertainment center at this point but I'd love to get better 
sound then I currently have.

eRic Caron 
 

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Re: WIFI Printers?

2012-04-23 Thread Eric Caron
Hi Kawal,

I'll be following this thread with interest.  I can not recommend the 
Printer I got with my Mac.  It was very difficult for even sighted friends to 
set up and it often needed to be set up again such as when the power went out.  
It always required someone to play with the printer in addition to software 
settings on the Mac.

My not so Friendly printer is the Canon MP 620 Multi Printer.  It works 
better with the USB plugged directly into my Time Capsule. It is a ink jet 
printer copier,scanner.  My experience is such that I plan to stay away from 
Cannon printers whenever possible. 

  
Eric Caron

  
On Apr 23, 2012, at 5:13 AM, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:

> Dear All.
> 
> I'd like to know what WIFI printer works wel with the Mac?  Something that is 
> easy to install and works well with VO and can be used in a Virtual Machine 
> please? wouldn't want it too big either. I'm not buying one yet but I'd like 
> some ideas. 
> 
> I went to the Apple Store on Saturday and there was one there touch screen 
> but the person at the Jenius Bar said that it would be too difficult to use 
> as the Wireless had to be set up on the printer first and not VO on it. OF 
> course I thought APPLE should make one with VO on it smile!
> 
> Thank you very much for any answers.
> 
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Re: Returning to a old stereo

2012-04-23 Thread Eric Caron
Hi Chris and anyone else following this crazy topic!

So chris If I'm understanding you correctly I might be able to either 
just purchase a separate amp and feed the output from my slightly underpowered 
receiver to it.  that way the mac out put could be boosted but I could also 
attach a airport express to the receiver as well as some other mp3 devices.  As 
my current system has a stereo out put option and a sub woofer line out I could 
enjoy the benefits of my sub woofer and the traditional stereo sound.  

Does this sound right so far?

One important question though.  My current Sony receiver does not have a pre 
amp out, it only has tape in out and the speaker wires so how do I get the 
sound from the mac and airport express to the receiver and out to the amp? 

I'm trying to power 250 watt speakers with a 150 watt receiver.

sorry to ask what are probably very basic questions for most people.
  

eric Caron 
On Apr 23, 2012, at 10:47 AM, Chris Blouch wrote:

> So the Mac actually has two kinds of audio output, analog stereo and 
> optical/digital multi-channel.
> 
> The first is probably more familiar which would be to have a mini-headphone 
> cable with standard left/right RCA connectors on the other end which you run 
> to an input on the receiver and you get nice stereo sound. There are only two 
> sound channels so if you want to get all fancy with a subwoofer you would 
> need some kind of crossover gear to send only the low sounds to a subwoofer 
> and leave everything else in your main speakers. This probably isn't done 
> much for home listening but I've known audiophiles who went to this trouble.
> 
> The second is a new(ish) setup where up to six separate channels of audio are 
> combined into one high-speed data channel and sent via fiber optic cable from 
> your mac to your receiver. The hadphone jack on your Mac will detect when a 
> miniTOS link cable is plugged in and turn on its optical output hardware. The 
> other end goes into any rececent (last 10 years or so) home theater receiver 
> with optical inputs. The receiver will decode the optical audio signal into 
> left, right, center, subwoofer, rear left and rear right channels. Usually 
> there are built-in amps for all the channels except the subwoofer, so you 
> just connect 5 standard speakers to the 5 plugs and you get all the surround 
> sound goodness. Most consumer subwoofers come with a built in amp tuned to 
> the speaker so the receiver just gives a 'line level' output on an RCA jack 
> to run to the subwoofer. That's why they call it 5.1 for five speakers plus 
> the subwoofer.
> 
> As far as what you actually get, for most music recordings you only get 
> stereo, so having all the other speakers doesn't do much for you. Most 
> receivers have all kinds of fancy modes to put 'something' in the other 
> speakers but in the end it's just stereo. Most receivers also will do 
> trickery if you, for example, don't have a subwoofer. All the 5.1 stuff kicks 
> in when you have a DVD with 5.1 audio tracks, which is pretty much all of 
> them. So of course if you buy a DVD of some concert you'll probably get the 
> full surround stuff, but really old movies are just stereo since that's all 
> they had back then. Sony, back in 99, tried something called a Super Audio CD 
> which had all the channels at high quality like a DVD but was just for audio. 
> It pretty much flopped but is still around and some folks really like it. I 
> haven't tried playing one of these on my Mac so I'm not sure what it would do.
> 
> Not sure what your budget is but you can pick up a plain jane 200w receiver 
> for about $150 new, so don't spend to much on that old used unit. If you're 
> waiting for one that has true all mechanical/analog controls you might find 
> they are quite old and probably have a lot of noise in the controls from 
> years of use/dust/dirt. Another possibility is to just get a real amplifier 
> and be done. Most amps have just one pair of inputs, real physical left/right 
> volume controls and one pair of speaker inputs.  Prices on plan old amps 
> range from around $90 for a 300w cheapie to thousands for high power high end 
> stuff. I've used QSC 300w stereo rackmount amps for years which run about 
> $300. Since the mac output is line level you can run it (with the right 
> cable) right into one of these things and be done.
> 
> Hopefully this will help wrap your head and not warp it :)
> 
> CB
> 
> On 4/22/12 3:55 PM, Lewis Alexander wrote:
>> if you just want surround sound and nothing else, you're using your mac as 
>> your main media source, the surround sound controllers on the market can 
>> automatically handle setup 

Re: deleting reminders from the I phone 4S

2012-05-04 Thread Eric Caron
Hi Jenny,

Recently I did two podcasts on using the Reminders app in iOS 5.1 with 
Voice over.  I think you might find them helpful.  The links are below.

They are at applevis.com.

I will paste the links below.


eric Caron 

http://www.applevis.com/podcasts/episodes/using-reminders-create-and-manage-tasks-and-lists

http://www.applevis.com/podcasts/episodes/exploring-some-advanced-features-reminders-app
 
On May 4, 2012, at 10:00 PM, Jenny Keller wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I just got my 4S, and serie says she can't delete reminders, so how do I do 
> it manually.
> 
> I never could figure out reminders when I had 5.1 on the 3GS.  Now I've got 
> the 4S, and I still can't figure out how to delete reminders.  the only 
> difference is, that I can make them and make them work now.
> 
> Also, does it do me any good to make location reminders, or are they more for 
> those who can see.  I don't think I can do it via serie can I?  If so, will 
> she tell me when they are checked off.  
> 
> I don't think she has told me yet about anything reminder related unless it's 
> the reminder itself popping up.
> 
> Any help would be appreciated.  Just keep in mind I need step by baby step 
> help with this as I have no clud what I'm doing.
> 
> Jenny
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Re: Setting to not automatically add files to iTunes library.

2012-05-06 Thread Eric Caron
Alison and others,

There is a way to set up iTunes so it does not automatically add files 
when played.  I learned how to do it from Esther quite som time ago.  It has 
been a long time so I'll have to search my notes to find how to do it.  I 
remember it was not hard to do but it was also not obvious by any means. 

So, there is a way but I'll have to get back to you unless someone else 
does.

Sorry this is only half a answer but I wanted you to know there is a way.  I 
also usually use quick look by pressing the space bar.  However, sometimes I 
want the iTunes controls and it is nice to open a file in iTunes and not have 
to find and delete it later. 

eRic Caron  
On Apr 29, 2012, at 3:51 PM, Allison Mervis wrote:

> Hi everyone!
> I recently got a beautiful new Macboook pro, and find myself using it more 
> than my pc because it's so portable. I'm wondering if there's a way to tell 
> iTunes not to add every file I play to my iTunes library. Sometimes I just 
> want to select a file in the finder, play it once, and exit without it being 
> added. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
> Allison
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Re: defining single key for vo keys?

2012-05-06 Thread Eric Caron
Hi Alex, Jonathan and others,

This is a great thread but I must say that I still think it would be 
very very helpful to be able to have the Voice Over key be one key.  I ordered 
a full USB keyboard about a year ago so that I could use the num pad commander. 
 I like it a lot, but frankly, I would not need it if the Voice Over key could 
be assigned to the caps lock key.  It is a matter of keeping my fingers on the 
home keys.  I'm much faster on the keyboard if I can just leave my fingers on 
the home row and type away.  But with Voice Over keys needing two fingers I 
just can't do that.  Further on the portables VO keys are only on the left 
side.  this forces me to do all kinds of finger contortions to do a simple 
command.  I'm glad Voice Over gives us lots of ways to do things.  I use them 
all but, every 6 months or so I write to accessibility@@apple.com and ask 
please please can I have the caps lock key assignably as the VO keys?  It would 
be great to have this be one more VO option.

It was a thread like this one that caused me to purchase a full size keyboard, 
so I could use the num pad commander.  This helped a great deal.  Still it is 
time for me to write my next reminder to apple!

Warmly,

eRic Caron 
On May 6, 2012, at 8:24 AM, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote:

> The insert key has been a legit modifier for the numpad commander in both 
> Snow Leopard and Lion.  I don't believe you can use it as a modifier for the 
> keypad commander.
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan
> 
> Jonathan C. Cohn
> jonc...@cox.net
> 
> 
> 
> On May 6, 2012, at 12:00 AM, Alex Hall wrote:
> 
>> How'd you define insert as a modifier for the commander? I haven't
>> looked recently, but I don't remember being able to add keys as well
>> as keystrokes with a modifier.
>> 
>> On 5/5/12, Jonathan C. Cohn  wrote:
>>> 90% of what I need to do can be done with the numpad commander.  I did add
>>> two additional keystrokes to the default Lion commander.
>>> 
>>> 1.  On the "3" key I added the jump command that gets executed with VO-J
>>> 2. With the Enter key I have it set to toggle betweenWeb dom and group mode.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> The defaults are
>>> 1. Item chooser
>>> 2. down
>>> 3. Jump
>>> 4. Left
>>> 5. Default action (same as vo-space)
>>> 6. Right
>>> 7. Interact with item
>>> 8  up
>>> 
>>> 9 . Stop Interacting
>>> 
>>> The 3 keys on the top row above 789 are
>>> Doc, Menu , and window chooser
>>> 
>>> The plus key brings up the contextual menu.
>>> 
>>> I also use the insert + numpad keys for getting to next/previous
>>> heading, link, visited link, table, control and hot spot.
>>> 
>>> If there is a specific function you need help with, I can probably tell you
>>> where it is.
>>> 
>>> Best wishes,
>>> 
>>> Jonathan
>>> 
>>> Jonathan C. Cohn
>>> jonc...@cox.net
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On May 5, 2012, at 4:47 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
>>> 
>>>> True. I don't have a trackpad, but I do have a numpad, I often forget
>>>> I set up a commander for it though.
>>>> 
>>>> On 5/5/12, Scott Howell  wrote:
>>>>> And if you are looking for a way to navigate without having to hold those
>>>>> keys down you always have quick nav, trackpad commander, and numpad
>>>>> commander assuming you have a numberpad on your keyboard.
>>>>> 
>>>>> On May 5, 2012, at 1:02 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> I know of no way to do this. However, you can use VO-semicolon to lock
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> VO keys on. It's a toggle, so you can press it again to turn it off.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> HTH,
>>>>>> Teresa
>>>>>> I'm a pantheist; I worship Pan.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On May 5, 2012, at 8:50 AM, Alex Hall wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>> I have an odd question. Is it possible to define a single key to act
>>>>>>> as the VO keys? So, instead of holding down alt and control (whatever
>>>>>>> the mac calls them) you hold down only one? Please don't start saying
>>>>>>> that "you just want windows-like control". It's simply that hitting a
>>>>>>> single key, be it insert or not, with other keys to input

Re: defining single key for vo keys?

2012-05-06 Thread Eric Caron
Hi Alex, Jonathan and others,

This is a great thread but I must say that I still think it would be 
very very helpful to be able to have the Voice Over key be one key.  I ordered 
a full USB keyboard about a year ago so that I could use the num pad commander. 
 I like it a lot, but frankly, I would not need it if the Voice Over key could 
be assigned to the caps lock key.  It is a matter of keeping my fingers on the 
home keys.  I'm much faster on the keyboard if I can just leave my fingers on 
the home row and type away.  But with Voice Over keys needing two fingers I 
just can't do that. Further on the portables VO keys are only on the left side. 
 this forces me to do all kinds of finger contortions to do a simple command.  
I'm glad Voice Over gives us lots of ways to do things.  I use them all but, 
every 6 months or so I write to accessibility@@apple.com and ask please please 
can I have the caps lock key assignably as the VO keys?  It would be great to 
have this be one more VO option.

It was a thread like this one that caused me to purchase a full size keyboard, 
so I could use the num pad commander.  This helped a great deal.  Still it is 
time for me to write my next reminder to apple!

Warmly,

ERic Caron 

On May 5, 2012, at 10:02 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote:

> 90% of what I need to do can be done with the numpad commander.  I did add 
> two additional keystrokes to the default Lion commander.
> 
> 1.  On the "3" key I added the jump command that gets executed with VO-J
> 2. With the Enter key I have it set to toggle betweenWeb dom and group mode.  
> 
> The defaults are 
> 1. Item chooser 
> 2. down 
> 3. Jump
> 4. Left
> 5. Default action (same as vo-space)
> 6. Right
> 7. Interact with item
> 8  up
> 
> 9 . Stop Interacting
> 
> The 3 keys on the top row above 789 are
> Doc, Menu , and window chooser
> 
> The plus key brings up the contextual menu.
> 
> I also use the insert + numpad keys for getting to next/previous 
> heading, link, visited link, table, control and hot spot.
> 
> If there is a specific function you need help with, I can probably tell you 
> where it is.
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan
> 
> Jonathan C. Cohn
> jonc...@cox.net
> 
> 
> 
> On May 5, 2012, at 4:47 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
> 
>> True. I don't have a trackpad, but I do have a numpad, I often forget
>> I set up a commander for it though.
>> 
>> On 5/5/12, Scott Howell  wrote:
>>> And if you are looking for a way to navigate without having to hold those
>>> keys down you always have quick nav, trackpad commander, and numpad
>>> commander assuming you have a numberpad on your keyboard.
>>> 
>>> On May 5, 2012, at 1:02 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I know of no way to do this. However, you can use VO-semicolon to lock the
>>>> VO keys on. It's a toggle, so you can press it again to turn it off.
>>>> 
>>>> HTH,
>>>> Teresa
>>>> I'm a pantheist; I worship Pan.
>>>> 
>>>> On May 5, 2012, at 8:50 AM, Alex Hall wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>> I have an odd question. Is it possible to define a single key to act
>>>>> as the VO keys? So, instead of holding down alt and control (whatever
>>>>> the mac calls them) you hold down only one? Please don't start saying
>>>>> that "you just want windows-like control". It's simply that hitting a
>>>>> single key, be it insert or not, with other keys to input commands is
>>>>> more streamlined and easier to do, IMHO. So, if it's possible to map
>>>>> VO comman keys to be something different, could anyone tell me how?
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>> 
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>>>>> Have a great day,
>>>>> Alex (msg sent from GMail website)
>>>>> mehg...@gmail.com; http://www.facebook.com/mehgcap
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Re: Setting to not automatically add files to iTunes library.

2012-05-06 Thread Eric Caron
Hi Alison and others,

Well, it looks like I am wrong.  I will post below the info I saved from a 
message from Esther.  It seems like the solution is to change the default 
player to something else.  In my case I use Amadeus Pro.  This gives me 
controls for play back without needing to add the track to iTunes.  I also 
learned from Esther about quick look and use that often.
I think other listers have all ready given this advice.


One other tip.  If I accidentally do play something in iTunes that I want to 
delete I usually go to my recently added play list or my zero rated play list. 
to find and delete it.

Sorry to get your hopes up.

Esther's directions on how to change the default player are excellent and that 
alone makes this post worth keeping for future reference!

below is Esther's post that helped me with this iTunes issue. 

Eric Caron 

start post 

Hi Eric,

You can play tracks without adding them to your iTunes library if you QuickLook 
them by pressing space bar instead of opening them in an app.  This obviously 
does not work for DRM protected apps, since iTunes is required to validate the 
DRM (e.g. with audiobooks purchased from Audible or the iTunes Store, movies, 
really old iTunes Music tracks that were purchased before they moved to 
DRM-free purchases, etc.)  Other than that, you can set the default app to open 
mp3 files, for example, to be something other than iTunes (e.g., VLC, QuickTime 
Player, etc.).  Just select an mp3 track, and use Command-I to bring up the  
"Get Info" window.  Use item chooser (VO-I) to navigate to the "Open with" 
option: specifically VO-Right arrow to the pop up button for the application, 
VO-Space, then select the app you want other than iTunes (e.g. QuickTime Player 
or VLC).If you then VO-Right arrow past the pop up, there's an option to 
"Use this application to open all documents like this on
e." followed by a "Change All" button that you can press (VO-Space) before 
closing the get info window with Command-W. 

I think that as long as iTunes is the default app for opening a file, it adds 
the new entries to its library.  Just QuickLook the file instead of opening it 
if you don't want it to be added to iTunes.

HTH.  Cheers,

Esther

On May 6, 2012, at 2:29 PM, Allison Mervis wrote:

> Thanks so much Eric. If you're able to find the info, I would really 
> appreciate it. Have a great day!
> Allison
> On May 6, 2012, at 7:46 AM, Eric Caron wrote:
> 
>> Alison and others,
>> 
>>  There is a way to set up iTunes so it does not automatically add files 
>> when played.  I learned how to do it from Esther quite som time ago.  It has 
>> been a long time so I'll have to search my notes to find how to do it.  I 
>> remember it was not hard to do but it was also not obvious by any means. 
>> 
>>  So, there is a way but I'll have to get back to you unless someone else 
>> does.
>> 
>> Sorry this is only half a answer but I wanted you to know there is a way.  I 
>> also usually use quick look by pressing the space bar.  However, sometimes I 
>> want the iTunes controls and it is nice to open a file in iTunes and not 
>> have to find and delete it later. 
>> 
>> eRic Caron  
>> On Apr 29, 2012, at 3:51 PM, Allison Mervis wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi everyone!
>>> I recently got a beautiful new Macboook pro, and find myself using it more 
>>> than my pc because it's so portable. I'm wondering if there's a way to tell 
>>> iTunes not to add every file I play to my iTunes library. Sometimes I just 
>>> want to select a file in the finder, play it once, and exit without it 
>>> being added. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
>>> Allison
>>> 
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iTunesmatch How to get High Quality versions?

2012-06-25 Thread Eric Caron
Hi listers,

I recently subscribed to iTunes match.  I'm hoping to improve the 
quality of some of my music.  Many of my rips have some sound issues so 
updating to the Apple version would be nice.

My understanding is that you can download the Apple version once your song is 
matched.   I don't know how to do that.  Can someone offer tips how to know if 
you have downloaded a better quality version of the song?  Many of my low 
quality Mp3 rips could use help and I can't take the time to dig out hundreds 
of CD's to do them again.
So far I seemed to have completed the first steps and iTunes thinks it is done. 
In the view menu I turned on the iCloud options and now hear the  message"  
iCloud download needs "upload or the message "iCloud download "local.

I would be grateful if someone could explain these messages .  And if I can 
have directions on how to use iCloud match to improve the quality of my rips so 
my listening is improved.

Gratefully,

Eric Caron 

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Re: iTunesmatch How to get High Quality versions?

2012-06-25 Thread Eric Caron

On Jun 25, 2012, at 8:59 PM, Eric Caron wrote:

> Hi listers,
> 
>   I recently subscribed to iTunes match.  I'm hoping to improve the 
> quality of some of my music.  Many of my rips have some sound issues so 
> updating to the Apple version would be nice.
> 
> My understanding is that you can download the Apple version once your song is 
> matched.   I don't know how to do that.  Can someone offer tips how to know 
> if you have downloaded a better quality version of the song?  Many of my low 
> quality Mp3 rips could use help and I can't take the time to dig out hundreds 
> of CD's to do them again.
> So far I seemed to have completed the first steps and iTunes thinks it is 
> done. In the view menu I turned on the iCloud options and now hear the  
> message"  iCloud download needs "upload or the message "iCloud download 
> "local.
> 
> I would be grateful if someone could explain these messages .  And if I can 
> have directions on how to use iCloud match to improve the quality of my rips 
> so my listening is improved.
> 
> Gratefully,
> 
> Eric Caron 
> 
Well, it is embarrassing to answer ones own question but I think I did find 
most of the problem on my own.  I double checked the view options and found 
that I had not checked all the options I thought I had.  Once I checked I cloud 
Status and kind I found a lot more information listed by each song.

One thing I still don't understand, the kind shows mpeg audio and not .mp3.  
but when I look at the files in the finder in my library they are still mp3 
files.  They do seem to be playing clearer in iTunes.  I'm guessing they are 
playing through the internet.  Is there a way to ask iTunes to download the 
improved version so that will play when i'm not connected to the internet?

I really really do need help with this question! 

Eric Caron 

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Re: iTunesmatch How to get High Quality versions?

2012-06-26 Thread Eric Caron
Hi Esther and others, 

Jonathan Mosen's excellent podcast on iTunes Match very helpful and it was 
after listening to it that I subscribed.  I solved my first problem of not 
being able to see the status of my music on my mac by double checking the view 
menu and finding I had not checked all the iCloud options Jonathan recommended. 
 this was operator error on my part as I thought I had checked them.

My current question is how to get the old mp3 files replaced.  I'm confident 
once I read the links in Esther's post I'll find answers.  

Thanks to Jonathan, and Esther, and others for helping me work out the kinks in 
iTunes Match.  I'm all ready noticing improvement in my listening experience.

Keep the tips coming!   Off to work now and I'll check back in this evening.

It is amazing how helpful this list is!

eRic Caron 

On Jun 25, 2012, at 9:45 PM, Esther wrote:

> Hi Eric,
> 
> Have you already listened to the podcast that Jonathan Mosen did about using 
> iTunes match for this?  He posted to the viphone list, and this podcast is 
> also up at the AppleVis site under the "Podcasts" listings, but I don't know 
> whether you're starting from his information or mean your question to go from 
> the points that he covered.
> 
> Hi everyone, I've been tweeting a bit about iTunes Match this week, and a few 
> people have asked if I could do an Audioboo on my experiences. So here it is. 
> I hope people considering it will find it of use.
> http://audioboo.fm/boos/859517 
> 
> 
> There are also some guides that you can find on the web about proceeding, 
> such as the CNET article on 
> • "How to use iTunes Match to upgrade audio quality" by Matt Elliott  
> November 17, 2011:
> http://howto.cnet.com/8301-11310_39-57326759-285/how-to-use-itunes-match-to-upgrade-audio-quality/
> You have to actually delete files to have them replaced with the better 
> quality ones  -- you might check this by trying it on a just a few files, 
> first.
> 
> The other issue is what to do if iTunes match doesn't match your files -- 
> which can occur if the initial encoding is ripped at less than 96 kbps. TUAW 
> had a solution for that, which was to basically use iTunes to create an aac 
> copy at 128 kbps from the ripped mp3 file.  As long as some version of the 
> file is shown with an encoding quality of better than 96 kbps, it will try to 
> match the content based on your labels (even if you got this by resampling 
> your lower bit rate rip).  Here's the link to the TUAW article if you want to 
> read the details:
> * "One trick for getting iTunes Match to recognize older tracks" by Michael 
> Rose Nov 20th 2011: 
> http://www.tuaw.com/2011/11/20/one-trick-for-getting-itunes-match-to-recognize-older-tracks/
> 
> HTH.  Or maybe someone else who has done this can chime in with suggestions.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Esther
> 
> On Jun 25, 2012, at 2:59 PM, Eric Caron wrote:
> 
>> Hi listers,
>> 
>>  I recently subscribed to iTunes match.  I'm hoping to improve the 
>> quality of some of my music.  Many of my rips have some sound issues so 
>> updating to the Apple version would be nice.
>> 
>> My understanding is that you can download the Apple version once your song 
>> is matched.   I don't know how to do that.  Can someone offer tips how to 
>> know if you have downloaded a better quality version of the song?  Many of 
>> my low quality Mp3 rips could use help and I can't take the time to dig out 
>> hundreds of CD's to do them again.
>> So far I seemed to have completed the first steps and iTunes thinks it is 
>> done. In the view menu I turned on the iCloud options and now hear the  
>> message"  iCloud download needs "upload or the message "iCloud download 
>> "local.
>> 
>> I would be grateful if someone could explain these messages .  And if I can 
>> have directions on how to use iCloud match to improve the quality of my rips 
>> so my listening is improved.
>> 
>> Gratefully,
>> 
>> Eric Caron 
>> 
> 
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Re: Downloading bard books with the mac

2012-06-30 Thread Eric Caron
Hi Rachel,

It sounds like you are getting many different ways of approaching 
downloading books from NLS BARD.  I'll add a few comments that I hope help.

I'm using Lyon and Safari.  I have the Safari preference setting under General 
set to open safe files after downloading.  This means the file is unzipped 
automatically so I have the book waiting for me and ready to go in my downloads 
folder.  I don't generally worry about the download status but If I want to 
check it you can go to the downloads list and interack with the group 
associated with the download and the information is there.

Once the book is downloaded I simply either copy it to the NLS cartridge I 
purchased from American Printing House For the Blind and it works just like a 
NLS book.  Only I fit many books onto the single cartridge.  To access the 
multiple books just hold down the play button on the NLS machine and it will 
open the bookshelf.  
To copy to the cartridge you will need a USB extender cable also sold 
at the American Printing House for the Blind.

If I'm using the Victor reader stream then I copy the folder from my Mac to the 
book shelf folder on the SD card and it works fine. 

If you don't have a NLS cartridge for the NLS player a thumb drive will work 
the same way. 

Hope this helps.  I find the process quick and easy on the Mac.

Best.

eRic Caron 


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> Hi Everyone,
> 
> I've had the mac for a month and a half and absolutely love it thus far. I 
> was recently presented with a challenge when downloading bard books. Is there 
> some sort of progress indicator I could somehow receive so I know when it has 
> finished downloading in Safari? And beyond that, what is the best way to 
> extract the zip contents of the folder? Wehn I use the default program on the 
> mac, or even iZip, it doesn't extract anything useful and i get a folder with 
> a .zip.CPGZ extension. I ended up using windows through a virtual machine to 
> get the  book downloaded  and extracted as their was progress indicator's 
> given, and I was able to successfully extract the folder contents then put it 
> onto a supported device.
> Help with this would be greatly appreciated.
> Thanks!
> Rachel 
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Re: iTunesmatch How to get High Quality versions?

2012-07-02 Thread Eric Caron
Esther, tim, and others,

I wanted to give a update to those who followed this thread.  After 
following Esther and Tim Kilburn's directions I was able to successfully use 
the iTunes match service to vastly improve my listening experience.  The 
article reference in Esther's post made this especially easy with the 
descriptions on how to make the smart play lists.
When I did this my library of 17,125  songs was divided up and I found 
over 11,000 songs that would be improved by replacing them with the higher 
quality songs from apple.  Further many of these songs were ripped either from 
my slightly abused cd collection, I'll never forget the day over 250 cd's hit 
the floor when a leg broke offf a bookcase, or from vinyl rips.  It is amazing 
to me how many songs were matched.  I took the bold step of deleting all 11,000 
songs from my library and letting iTunes replace them from the cloud.  this 
took a long time.  I let the computer work on this during the night and during 
the day when I was at work.  It still took my late 2009 Mac book over three 
days to complete the task.

Occasionally a error message would come up and then say the network connection 
was reestablished.  sometimes this error would start happening a lot.  When 
this happened I would restart iTunes and go back to the smart playlist with the 
needed songs and select all again and press download.  the process would 
continue again and the errors would stop for some time.  I noticed that If I 
was playing music and reading mail and pushing the computer a bit the error 
messages seem to increase. 

These are just observations from my experience.

Finally,  I definitely notice a improvement in the over all quality of my 
listening.  I don't think I've heard a skipping or damaged track since I 
completed the process.  A few of my vinyl tracks still show up in my mixes and 
I actually enjoy hearing the familiar background sounds.  On the other hand the 
crisp sound of the replaced tracks is great.  To think all those tracks I 
originally ripped 7 or more years ago on a low bit rate Windows machine are now 
available so clearly improved without me taking weeks to rip them in again 
manually.  This was certainly a great investment.

I have only started to investigate the uses of Tunes match with regard 
to my phone.  I'm sure there is potential there I have not yet begun to use or 
understand.

I hope this information is useful to others out there. 

Eric Caron  

On Jun 25, 2012, at 9:45 PM, Esther wrote:

> Hi Eric,
> 
> Have you already listened to the podcast that Jonathan Mosen did about using 
> iTunes match for this?  He posted to the viphone list, and this podcast is 
> also up at the AppleVis site under the "Podcasts" listings, but I don't know 
> whether you're starting from his information or mean your question to go from 
> the points that he covered.
> 
> Hi everyone, I've been tweeting a bit about iTunes Match this week, and a few 
> people have asked if I could do an Audioboo on my experiences. So here it is. 
> I hope people considering it will find it of use.
> http://audioboo.fm/boos/859517 
> 
> 
> There are also some guides that you can find on the web about proceeding, 
> such as the CNET article on 
> • "How to use iTunes Match to upgrade audio quality" by Matt Elliott  
> November 17, 2011:
> http://howto.cnet.com/8301-11310_39-57326759-285/how-to-use-itunes-match-to-upgrade-audio-quality/
> You have to actually delete files to have them replaced with the better 
> quality ones  -- you might check this by trying it on a just a few files, 
> first.
> 
> The other issue is what to do if iTunes match doesn't match your files -- 
> which can occur if the initial encoding is ripped at less than 96 kbps. TUAW 
> had a solution for that, which was to basically use iTunes to create an aac 
> copy at 128 kbps from the ripped mp3 file.  As long as some version of the 
> file is shown with an encoding quality of better than 96 kbps, it will try to 
> match the content based on your labels (even if you got this by resampling 
> your lower bit rate rip).  Here's the link to the TUAW article if you want to 
> read the details:
> * "One trick for getting iTunes Match to recognize older tracks" by Michael 
> Rose Nov 20th 2011: 
> http://www.tuaw.com/2011/11/20/one-trick-for-getting-itunes-match-to-recognize-older-tracks/
> 
> HTH.  Or maybe someone else who has done this can chime in with suggestions.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Esther
> 
> On Jun 25, 2012, at 2:59 PM, Eric Caron wrote:
> 
>> Hi listers,
>> 
>>  I recently subscribed to iTunes match.  I'm hoping to improve the 
>> quality of some of my music.  Many of my rips have some sound issues so 
>> updating t

Re: type2phone

2012-07-11 Thread Eric Caron
Scott,

How do I find the update?  It doesn't show up when I do software update 
and I see nothing in type2phone that asks about checking for a update.

I'm not that familiar with the app store and was hoping software update would 
take care of things like this.

My version is a few months old and the ability to paste is broken.  i
d like to try the update to see if paste is working again.

eRic Caron 

On Jul 10, 2012, at 12:21 PM, Scott Rumery wrote:

> Hi Christina,
>   I am using it but I didn't know that there was a new update.  Give me a 
> few minutes and I will install it and then I can let you know.
> 
> Scott
> On Jul 10, 2012, at 12:09 PM, Christina wrote:
> 
>> Hello all,
>> 
>> I noticed there is an update to this mac app.  I love this app and am afraid 
>> to upgrade in case the accessibility is broken.  Is anyone using the latest 
>> version without any problems?:)
>> 
>> Christina
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Re: type2phone

2012-07-12 Thread Eric Caron
Dear listers,

Have any users of Type2phone been able to get the app to copy from the 
mac and paste into a edit field on the iPhone.  I remember from a past message 
from esther that in previous versions this was possible.  I have never been 
able to do this.  I did the update today following Esther's info on how to go 
the app Store and press update.  In the notes there id did mention pasting as a 
fix, at least I think I read that,  But, still not working for me.

I like the app but that cut and paste would be very very helpful. 

Eric Caron 

On Jul 11, 2012, at 10:32 PM, Eric Caron wrote:

> Scott,
> 
>   How do I find the update?  It doesn't show up when I do software update 
> and I see nothing in type2phone that asks about checking for a update.
> 
> I'm not that familiar with the app store and was hoping software update would 
> take care of things like this.
> 
> My version is a few months old and the ability to paste is broken.  i
> d like to try the update to see if paste is working again.
> 
> eRic Caron 
> 
> On Jul 10, 2012, at 12:21 PM, Scott Rumery wrote:
> 
>> Hi Christina,
>>  I am using it but I didn't know that there was a new update.  Give me a 
>> few minutes and I will install it and then I can let you know.
>> 
>> Scott
>> On Jul 10, 2012, at 12:09 PM, Christina wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello all,
>>> 
>>> I noticed there is an update to this mac app.  I love this app and am 
>>> afraid to upgrade in case the accessibility is broken.  Is anyone using the 
>>> latest version without any problems?:)
>>> 
>>> Christina
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Re: Mac mini for sale.

2012-07-12 Thread Eric Caron
OK listers,

I just confirmed this purchase with Allison so I hope you folks can 
help me with mac mini questions.  this will be my first Mini.

eRic Caron 
On Jul 12, 2012, at 3:15 PM, Allison Mervis wrote:

> Hi Corey.
> Sorry I didn't realize you had written me off list. I would be happy to sell 
> you the Mac mini if you can pay via paypal. If you definitely want it, please 
> send me the money and your shipping details, and I'll send it out tomorrow. 
> Thanks!
> Allison
> On Jul 12, 2012, at 11:02 AM, Corey Knapp wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Hi Allison,
>> I will buy it do you take paypal?
>> Thanks,
>> Corey
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Allison Mervis
>> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 11:29 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Mac mini for sale.
>> 
>> Hi everyone!
>> I have a July 2011 model Mac Mini for sale. It's in excellent condition. I'm
>> selling it because it hasn't been getting much use since I received my
>> macbook pro. The package will include the mac mini, the power cord, 2 4 gig
>> sticks of ram, a USB Apple keyboard, and a Magic Trackpad. The mac has a 2.3
>> GHZ dual core I5 processor, 2 gigs of ram, (upgradable to 8 gigs with the
>> included memory kits) and a 500 gig hard drive. It is running OSX Lion, and
>> will easily run Mountain Lion when it is released. I am asking for $400 or
>> best offer. This includes shipping. Please email me off list if you are
>> interested, or if you have any questions. Thanks!
>> Allison
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Re: Mac mini for sale.

2012-07-12 Thread Eric Caron
Hi Listers,

I just worked out this sale with Allison and am looking forward to my 
first Mac Mini.  I hope mini users on this list will be willing to lend me some 
help. 

Eric Caron 
On Jul 12, 2012, at 3:15 PM, Allison Mervis wrote:

> Hi Corey.
> Sorry I didn't realize you had written me off list. I would be happy to sell 
> you the Mac mini if you can pay via paypal. If you definitely want it, please 
> send me the money and your shipping details, and I'll send it out tomorrow. 
> Thanks!
> Allison
> On Jul 12, 2012, at 11:02 AM, Corey Knapp wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Hi Allison,
>> I will buy it do you take paypal?
>> Thanks,
>> Corey
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of Allison Mervis
>> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 11:29 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Mac mini for sale.
>> 
>> Hi everyone!
>> I have a July 2011 model Mac Mini for sale. It's in excellent condition. I'm
>> selling it because it hasn't been getting much use since I received my
>> macbook pro. The package will include the mac mini, the power cord, 2 4 gig
>> sticks of ram, a USB Apple keyboard, and a Magic Trackpad. The mac has a 2.3
>> GHZ dual core I5 processor, 2 gigs of ram, (upgradable to 8 gigs with the
>> included memory kits) and a 500 gig hard drive. It is running OSX Lion, and
>> will easily run Mountain Lion when it is released. I am asking for $400 or
>> best offer. This includes shipping. Please email me off list if you are
>> interested, or if you have any questions. Thanks!
>> Allison
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Re: think I got paste to work was : type2phone

2012-07-13 Thread Eric Caron
Hi Christina,

I followed your directions using Lyon and my iPhone 4 S and sure enough 
as long as I turned off Voice over before pressing Command Shift V the text 
went in nicely.  Frustrating that we have to do this but great that you found a 
work around!  

Thanks for posting this work around and I'm glad I could reproduce it.

eRic Caron 

On Jul 13, 2012, at 1:44 PM, Christina wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I played around and I did get it to work.  I do not know how reliable my 
> method is so if you try this, you might proofread.  I am using snow leopard 
> and an iPhone 4 and all is the latest version of software.  So, I just typed 
> up some test text in a new e-mail, selected it in the usual way and copied it 
> in the usual way.  Then I went over to type to phone and did a triple click 
> home to toggle VO off on my iPhone after I had the curser in the edit box.  
> Then, on the mac with type2phone, I pressed command, plus shift, plus v.  I 
> then toggled vo back on my iPhone and the proper text was there.
> 
> I'm curious if this works for others.
> HTH,
> Christina C.
> On Jul 12, 2012, at 6:26 PM, Eric Caron wrote:
> 
>> Dear listers,
>> 
>>  Have any users of Type2phone been able to get the app to copy from the 
>> mac and paste into a edit field on the iPhone.
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Re: think I got paste to work was : type2phone

2012-07-13 Thread Eric Caron
Hi Christina,

I followed your directions using Lyon and my iPhone 4 S and sure enough 
as long as I turned off Voice over before pressing Command Shift V the text 
went in nicely.  Frustrating that we have to do this but great that you found a 
work around!  

Thanks for posting this work around and I'm glad I could reproduce it.

eRic Caron 


On Jul 13, 2012, at 1:44 PM, Christina wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> I played around and I did get it to work.  I do not know how reliable my 
> method is so if you try this, you might proofread.  I am using snow leopard 
> and an iPhone 4 and all is the latest version of software.  So, I just typed 
> up some test text in a new e-mail, selected it in the usual way and copied it 
> in the usual way.  Then I went over to type to phone and did a triple click 
> home to toggle VO off on my iPhone after I had the curser in the edit box.  
> Then, on the mac with type2phone, I pressed command, plus shift, plus v.  I 
> then toggled vo back on my iPhone and the proper text was there.
> 
> I'm curious if this works for others.
> HTH,
> Christina C.
> On Jul 12, 2012, at 6:26 PM, Eric Caron wrote:
> 
>> Dear listers,
>> 
>>  Have any users of Type2phone been able to get the app to copy from the 
>> mac and paste into a edit field on the iPhone.
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Re: think I got paste to work was : type2phone

2012-07-14 Thread Eric Caron
Hi Gigi,

Type2phone lets you use your mac to control and type into your i 
device.  By having the paste work you can easily move text from the mac to any 
application on the i device that has a edit field.  
You are correct that you can type a note on the Mac and it can appear 
in the notes app  on the i device, Actually I did a podcast for Applevis 
that demonstrates that.  But, if you then want the text in a different app you 
need to cut and paste it in.  With the function of cut and paste working on 
type2phone you not only have a working alternative to a bluetooth keyboard for 
your i device but you also have the advantage of being able to move text 
created on or existing on the Mac directly to any text field on the i device.

For me this means that I could type up a recipe on my Mac, or simply copy a 
existing one and then paste it directly into the text field of a item in List 
Recorder.  Or, my Senior presentation could be pasted right into my 
presentations list under my work list.  This would certainly improve 
productivity in many apps.

Hope this explanation explains better how this is different then using Notes. 

eric Caron  
On Jul 14, 2012, at 6:33 AM, Gigi wrote:

> 
> Hi guys
> I guess I missed something here, but what is the advantage of this type to 
> program over notes? Text goes into my iPhone when I use notes on my Mac, soul 
> I guess I don't get it
> Regards
> Gigi
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Jul 13, 2012, at 11:47 PM, Eric Caron  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Christina,
>> 
>>   I followed your directions using Lyon and my iPhone 4 S and sure enough as 
>> long as I turned off Voice over before pressing Command Shift V the text 
>> went in nicely.  Frustrating that we have to do this but great that you 
>> found a work around!  
>> 
>> Thanks for posting this work around and I'm glad I could reproduce it.
>> 
>> eRic Caron 
>> 
>> 
>> On Jul 13, 2012, at 1:44 PM, Christina wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> I played around and I did get it to work.  I do not know how reliable my 
>>> method is so if you try this, you might proofread.  I am using snow leopard 
>>> and an iPhone 4 and all is the latest version of software.  So, I just 
>>> typed up some test text in a new e-mail, selected it in the usual way and 
>>> copied it in the usual way.  Then I went over to type to phone and did a 
>>> triple click home to toggle VO off on my iPhone after I had the curser in 
>>> the edit box.  Then, on the mac with type2phone, I pressed command, plus 
>>> shift, plus v.  I then toggled vo back on my iPhone and the proper text was 
>>> there.
>>> 
>>> I'm curious if this works for others.
>>> HTH,
>>> Christina C.
>>> On Jul 12, 2012, at 6:26 PM, Eric Caron wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Dear listers,
>>>> 
>>>>   Have any users of Type2phone been able to get the app to copy from the 
>>>> mac and paste into a edit field on the iPhone.
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Mountain Lyon and VM users please report in

2012-07-25 Thread Eric Caron
Hi listers,

Anyone who has upgraded to Mountain Lyon and who had a VM Fusion 
installation, please let us know if the machine is still working nicely under 
Mountain Lyon.  I'm especially interested in those with a JAWS VM as I had 
authorization problems in the past.

Thanks for any reports.
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Re: Mountain Lyon and VM users please report in

2012-07-26 Thread Eric Caron
Hi Kliphton,

Am I correct in remembering that you use JAWS with your VM?  If so then 
did you need to reauthorize after upgrading from Lyon to Mountain Lyon?

Thanks for the info.

Eric Caron  PM, Kliphton wrote:

> I am happy to report that VM fusion is working after upgrading to mountain 
> lion with no issues.  Now when I perform the clean install later this month 
> we will see, but the upgrade process didn't effect fusion at all!
> On Jul 25, 2012, at 1:27 PM, Eric Caron  wrote:
> 
>> Hi listers,
>> 
>>  Anyone who has upgraded to Mountain Lyon and who had a VM Fusion 
>> installation, please let us know if the machine is still working nicely 
>> under Mountain Lyon.  I'm especially interested in those with a JAWS VM as I 
>> had authorization problems in the past.
>> 
>> Thanks for any reports.
>> Eric Caron 
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Re: Mountain Lyon and VM users please report in

2012-07-26 Thread Eric Caron
Hi Kliphton,

Am I correct in remembering that you use JAWS with your VM?  If so then 
did you need to reauthorize after upgrading from Lyon to Mountain Lyon?

Thanks for the info.

Eric Caron
On Jul 26, 2012, at 12:10 PM, Kliphton wrote:

> I am happy to report that VM fusion is working after upgrading to mountain 
> lion with no issues.  Now when I perform the clean install later this month 
> we will see, but the upgrade process didn't effect fusion at all!
> On Jul 25, 2012, at 1:27 PM, Eric Caron  wrote:
> 
>> Hi listers,
>> 
>>  Anyone who has upgraded to Mountain Lyon and who had a VM Fusion 
>> installation, please let us know if the machine is still working nicely 
>> under Mountain Lyon.  I'm especially interested in those with a JAWS VM as I 
>> had authorization problems in the past.
>> 
>> Thanks for any reports.
>> Eric Caron 
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How to use a Remote disk drive

2012-07-26 Thread Eric Caron
Hello Listers,

I've seen several references to people using a remote disc drive on 
another Mac with their Mac Book Air or Mini.  And, this will be used more often 
with the new mac Book Pro that has no CD drive.  Can someone familiar with this 
process describe the steps needed?  In my case I have a mini and a mac book.  I 
will also soon  have another mac that doesn't have a disk drive,   and it would 
be helpful to be able to leave the superdrive connected to one computer or just 
use the one on the old mac book for all the computers.
I do see Remote Disk on my mini desk top but when I try to open it my finder 
goes busy.  This is probably because I don't have a monitor on the mini yet.

Thanks for your tips.

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Re: update for speakable items less enthused but working on it

2012-08-12 Thread Eric Caron

Hi Iona and others,

I'm so glad you posted this update about speakable items randomly 
turning off.  I had a play with it today and other then it randomly stopping 
for no apparent reason I was pretty happy with what it was doing for me.
I thought I was doing something wrong but I also have to turn it off 
and on again to get it to work. 

If others find ways to keep it on and listening for the key word I'd 
love to know.  holding down a key seems to defeat the purpose for me.   If I'm 
going to have my hand on the keyboard I might as well just navigate that way. 

Please keep sharing your Speakable items experiences and discoveries.

eric Caron 

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> HI  all,
> 
> I am playing around with this feature and find that it often stops working 
> and I have to turn speakable items on and off and fiddle around. HOpe to find 
> a crash pattern one could report.
> 
> Nonetheless when it works it is better than in lion for me.
> 
> Still a rather useless gadget until it is more  reliable.
> IMHO
> 
> Best,
> 
> Ioana
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> stores.
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Error Google drive folder is missing

2012-08-17 Thread Eric Caron

Hello listers,

If anyone out there is successfully using Google Drive with Mountain 
Lion, I'd be interested in knowing.  I have updated two macs and in both cases 
I get the message in the subject of this email. "Error, Google Drive folder is 
missing."

I did have some trouble with Dropbox on one of the two machines and one worked 
immediately. It took some time and lots of experimenting but I got Dropbox 
working now on both machines. 

With Google Drive I've tried every trick I can think of and nothing has worked.

I have tried to find the latest version as at one point it said I was using a 
out dated version and needed to get the new one.  It didn't seem to tell me 
where to get it though.  

So I found it with Google and then tried to install with no luck.

I then tried increasingly drastic steps finally completely shutting down and 
Deleting the app.  I then deleted the folder from my Mac.  I then installed 
again and yes the same error message shows up in the Mountain Lion Extra's 
menu.  

I'm hoping someone can at least confirm Google Drive works in Mountain Lion and 
if possible give some tips as to how they got it working. 

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Re: Error Google drive folder is missing

2012-08-17 Thread Eric Caron
Hi Tim,

Thanks for this tip.  I'll keep trying now that I know it is working 
for you.

I went to the extras menu for Google Drive and most of the options 
including preferences are dimmed.  I did press quit but that is not the same as 
signing out.  I'm not sure where to sign out and it has not asked me for my 
credentials when signing in.

Currently the folder is visible in my home directory, same level as Dropbox and 
Desktop and Downloads.

Any additional tips very much appreciated.

Where do I sign out, for example?

 Eric Caron 


On Aug 17, 2012, at 10:02 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Google Drive works perfectly for me under ML.  That message is telling you 
> that the Google Drive folder, which needs to be located in the root level of 
> your Home Directory, is not where it's supposed to be.  Try going in your 
> Menu Extras, under Preferences and Signing out.  Run Google Drive again from 
> the Applications menu and see what happens.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On 2012-08-17, at 7:23 AM, Eric Caron  wrote:
> 
>>  
>> Hello listers,
>> 
>>  If anyone out there is successfully using Google Drive with Mountain 
>> Lion, I'd be interested in knowing.  I have updated two macs and in both 
>> cases I get the message in the subject of this email. "Error, Google Drive 
>> folder is missing."
>> 
>> I did have some trouble with Dropbox on one of the two machines and one 
>> worked immediately. It took some time and lots of experimenting but I got 
>> Dropbox working now on both machines. 
>> 
>> With Google Drive I've tried every trick I can think of and nothing has 
>> worked.
>> 
>> I have tried to find the latest version as at one point it said I was using 
>> a out dated version and needed to get the new one.  It didn't seem to tell 
>> me where to get it though.  
>> 
>> So I found it with Google and then tried to install with no luck.
>> 
>> I then tried increasingly drastic steps finally completely shutting down and 
>> Deleting the app.  I then deleted the folder from my Mac.  I then installed 
>> again and yes the same error message shows up in the Mountain Lion Extra's 
>> menu.  
>> 
>> I'm hoping someone can at least confirm Google Drive works in Mountain Lion 
>> and if possible give some tips as to how they got it working. 
>> 
>> Eric Caron 
>>  
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Re: Error Google drive folder is missing

2012-08-18 Thread Eric Caron

Hi Tim and others,

I contacted Google and got a call and a email.  It was all the same 
info that Tim all ready gave me.  Sadly I still can't get the Google Drive back 
up.  I never get a new installation and never get to enter my credentials 
again.  

I tried the recent suggestions including turn off at log in and it is 
acting the same way.

Thanks for tips and thoughts.

Eric Caron 
On Aug 17, 2012, at 1:59 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> The Sign Out is in the Preferences but if it's dimmed, then you'll have 
> issues.  Maybe you should remove the Google Drive folder from your Home 
> Directory, the folder itself.  You shouldn't lose anything as it's all with 
> Google anyway.  I'm wondering if something is corrupt in the folder itself.  
> You should also go into your System Prefs, in the Users & Groups pane, Login 
> Items and remove Google Drive from the startup items.  This will make it 
> easier to troubleshoot as it won't always be trying to start on login.  In 
> this situation, when you open Google Drive from your Applications folder, it 
> should be opening for the first time and maybe it'll ask for your credentials.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On 2012-08-17, at 8:29 AM, Eric Caron  wrote:
> 
>> Hi Tim,
>> 
>>  Thanks for this tip.  I'll keep trying now that I know it is working 
>> for you.
>> 
>>  I went to the extras menu for Google Drive and most of the options 
>> including preferences are dimmed.  I did press quit but that is not the same 
>> as signing out.  I'm not sure where to sign out and it has not asked me for 
>> my credentials when signing in.
>> 
>> Currently the folder is visible in my home directory, same level as Dropbox 
>> and Desktop and Downloads.
>> 
>> Any additional tips very much appreciated.
>> 
>> Where do I sign out, for example?
>> 
>>  Eric Caron 
>> 
>> 
>> On Aug 17, 2012, at 10:02 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Google Drive works perfectly for me under ML.  That message is telling you 
>>> that the Google Drive folder, which needs to be located in the root level 
>>> of your Home Directory, is not where it's supposed to be.  Try going in 
>>> your Menu Extras, under Preferences and Signing out.  Run Google Drive 
>>> again from the Applications menu and see what happens.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On 2012-08-17, at 7:23 AM, Eric Caron  wrote:
>>> 
>>>>
>>>> Hello listers,
>>>> 
>>>>If anyone out there is successfully using Google Drive with Mountain 
>>>> Lion, I'd be interested in knowing.  I have updated two macs and in both 
>>>> cases I get the message in the subject of this email. "Error, Google Drive 
>>>> folder is missing."
>>>> 
>>>> I did have some trouble with Dropbox on one of the two machines and one 
>>>> worked immediately. It took some time and lots of experimenting but I got 
>>>> Dropbox working now on both machines. 
>>>> 
>>>> With Google Drive I've tried every trick I can think of and nothing has 
>>>> worked.
>>>> 
>>>> I have tried to find the latest version as at one point it said I was 
>>>> using a out dated version and needed to get the new one.  It didn't seem 
>>>> to tell me where to get it though.  
>>>> 
>>>> So I found it with Google and then tried to install with no luck.
>>>> 
>>>> I then tried increasingly drastic steps finally completely shutting down 
>>>> and Deleting the app.  I then deleted the folder from my Mac.  I then 
>>>> installed again and yes the same error message shows up in the Mountain 
>>>> Lion Extra's menu.  
>>>> 
>>>> I'm hoping someone can at least confirm Google Drive works in Mountain 
>>>> Lion and if possible give some tips as to how they got it working. 
>>>> 
>>>> Eric Caron 
>>>>
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Re: Error Google drive folder is missing

2012-08-19 Thread Eric Caron
Hi Tim and others,

This last suggestion worked!  I followed your directions about Finder 
and deleting the file you pointed me to.  I did this on the two mac's I 
recently updated to Mountain Lion.  They are now using Google Drive correctly.  

Thanks Tim very much for your help problem solving this.  I never would have 
figured out what to do without the clear directions you provided,  especially 
those concerning the Library folders.  I've deleted plists in the past but this 
is the first time I visited this part of my Mac when problem solving.

I hope other Google Drive users don't need to follow these steps but if needed 
this thread provides the answer.

Eric Caron 

On Aug 18, 2012, at 11:17 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:

> Hi Eric,
> 
> One more thing to try.
> 
> 1.  Go to your Finder.
> 2.  Up to the Go menu.
> 3.  Hold down your VO keys and go down the menu until you hear "Library", 
> press return.  If your VO keys are not down at this time, the Library option 
> will not be heard.
> 4.  Locate the Application Support folder and open it.
> 5.  Within that folder, locate the Google folder and open it.
> 6.  From within that folder, locate the Drive folder and Trash it.  Empty 
> your Trash.
> 
> This hopefully should remove any certificates and other data that is binding 
> your Google Drive account.  Restart your computer and begin the Google Drive 
> installation process again.  Make sure that your Google Drive folder does not 
> exist in your Home Directory before beginning the reinstallation.  If this 
> still doesn't work, are you able to wait until Tuesday or so?  I'm out of 
> town right now and have a brutal Internet connection so can't do some of the 
> testing I'd like to do to assist you.
> 
> Later...
> 
> Tim Kilburn
> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
> 
> On 2012-08-18, at 6:00 AM, Eric Caron  wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Hi Tim and others,
>> 
>>  I contacted Google and got a call and a email.  It was all the same 
>> info that Tim all ready gave me.  Sadly I still can't get the Google Drive 
>> back up.  I never get a new installation and never get to enter my 
>> credentials again.  
>> 
>>  I tried the recent suggestions including turn off at log in and it is 
>> acting the same way.
>> 
>> Thanks for tips and thoughts.
>> 
>> Eric Caron 
>> On Aug 17, 2012, at 1:59 PM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> The Sign Out is in the Preferences but if it's dimmed, then you'll have 
>>> issues.  Maybe you should remove the Google Drive folder from your Home 
>>> Directory, the folder itself.  You shouldn't lose anything as it's all with 
>>> Google anyway.  I'm wondering if something is corrupt in the folder itself. 
>>>  You should also go into your System Prefs, in the Users & Groups pane, 
>>> Login Items and remove Google Drive from the startup items.  This will make 
>>> it easier to troubleshoot as it won't always be trying to start on login.  
>>> In this situation, when you open Google Drive from your Applications 
>>> folder, it should be opening for the first time and maybe it'll ask for 
>>> your credentials.
>>> 
>>> Later...
>>> 
>>> Tim Kilburn
>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada
>>> 
>>> On 2012-08-17, at 8:29 AM, Eric Caron  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Tim,
>>>> 
>>>>Thanks for this tip.  I'll keep trying now that I know it is working 
>>>> for you.
>>>> 
>>>>I went to the extras menu for Google Drive and most of the options 
>>>> including preferences are dimmed.  I did press quit but that is not the 
>>>> same as signing out.  I'm not sure where to sign out and it has not asked 
>>>> me for my credentials when signing in.
>>>> 
>>>> Currently the folder is visible in my home directory, same level as 
>>>> Dropbox and Desktop and Downloads.
>>>> 
>>>> Any additional tips very much appreciated.
>>>> 
>>>> Where do I sign out, for example?
>>>> 
>>>>  Eric Caron 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Aug 17, 2012, at 10:02 AM, Tim Kilburn  wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>> 
>>>>> Google Drive works perfectly for me under ML.  That message is telling 
>>>>> you that the Google Drive folder, which needs to be located in the root 
>>>>> level of your Home Directory, is not where it's supposed to be.  Try 
>>

File sharing and permissions problems

2012-08-19 Thread Eric Caron
Hello Listers,
Using the wireless network to share files between computers is truly amazing to 
me.  That i can move files two and from my other computers while on a single 
computer is like magic.
I have spent a lot of time in system preferences in the sharing area 
trying to get everything working correctly.  

I've made good progress in having my three mac computers share files.  
However, I'm wondering if I can increase the access I currently have or if 
there is a limitation for Voice Over users.

I want to be able to share my complete user account on all computers.  
I set up sharing but for some reason some folders insist on saying "no 
permission to share" 

So for example I set up in sharing  that file sharing is turned on.  I select 
my HD and give read and write permission.  I then can access it just fine for 
many of the folders but certain ones like Downloads, Music, and some others 
insist on saying "No Permission to read."  and I can't access these folders.  
Yet others like desktop and all the folders I have created work fine. 

So, Are others able to set up sharing to work fully with Voice Over?

Any tips on getting file sharing to completely work?

Even the partially working sharing is very helpful.  I'd love to improve things 
a bit. 

Currently two of the three computers are using Mountain Lion and I plan to 
update the other computer soon.  they are acting the same with either operating 
system, Lion or Mountain Lion, though Mountain Lion seems to be easier to work 
with.
 

Thanks for sharing any successes or similar problems.  Tips are greatly 
appreciated.

Eric Caron 

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Re: File sharing and permissions problems

2012-08-20 Thread Eric Caron
Hi Jeff,

Thanks for this tip.  I learned about this option on a call to Apple 
support a few weeks ago.  I tried changing the permissions there rather then in 
System Preferences I tried several different times and for the longest time 
didn't see any success.  I still don't have most of the files sharing correctly 
but one folder on one computer, the Downloads folder, did start to show up as a 
separate volume and I could share with it.  still the same folder in the shared 
HD folder says "No Permission To Read."  and it will not open.

Do you have a large user folder shared that  is working for all sub folders 
including downloads, music, movies and such? 

In the shared area in the info tab I've changed owner to my user account.  
should it be something else?  I think I tried Admin and can try that again.  

I really appreciate your feedback on this.  I have the feeling this powerful 
tool is not used by many who would find it helpful.  It seems pretty straight 
forward in Mountain Lion System Preferences.  That is it seems straight forward 
but I  have only some of the desired files sharing.

Eric Caron 

On Aug 20, 2012, at 7:48 AM, Jeff Berwick  wrote:

> I don't know if this is the right way to do things, or if it will work in 
> your situation, but I recently had to take control of another user's files on 
> my wife's computer.  At any rate, if you open up the folder in Finder, you 
> can navigate to the file.  Do a [vo][shift][m] on the file and choose "Get 
> Info."  In that dialogue box you have the ability to set permissions.  The 
> interesting part of this dialogue box is the "action" button.  When you press 
> it, you can have the permission changes you have made apply to all subsequent 
> files and folders.  
> 
> I am wondering if this may be helpful as you may have set the sharing 
> permissions on the parent folder and those permissions have not cascaded down 
> to the child folders.
> 
> May be worth a try.
> 
> Hth,
> Jeff
> 
> On 2012-08-19, at 11:26 PM, Eric Caron  wrote:
> 
>> Hello Listers,
>> Using the wireless network to share files between computers is truly amazing 
>> to me.  That i can move files two and from my other computers while on a 
>> single computer is like magic.
>>  I have spent a lot of time in system preferences in the sharing area 
>> trying to get everything working correctly.  
>> 
>>  I've made good progress in having my three mac computers share files.  
>> However, I'm wondering if I can increase the access I currently have or if 
>> there is a limitation for Voice Over users.
>> 
>>  I want to be able to share my complete user account on all computers.  
>> I set up sharing but for some reason some folders insist on saying "no 
>> permission to share" 
>> 
>> So for example I set up in sharing  that file sharing is turned on.  I 
>> select my HD and give read and write permission.  I then can access it just 
>> fine for many of the folders but certain ones like Downloads, Music, and 
>> some others insist on saying "No Permission to read."  and I can't access 
>> these folders.  Yet others like desktop and all the folders I have created 
>> work fine. 
>> 
>> So, Are others able to set up sharing to work fully with Voice Over?
>> 
>> Any tips on getting file sharing to completely work?
>> 
>> Even the partially working sharing is very helpful.  I'd love to improve 
>> things a bit. 
>> 
>> Currently two of the three computers are using Mountain Lion and I plan to 
>> update the other computer soon.  they are acting the same with either 
>> operating system, Lion or Mountain Lion, though Mountain Lion seems to be 
>> easier to work with.
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks for sharing any successes or similar problems.  Tips are greatly 
>> appreciated.
>> 
>> Eric Caron 
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Speakable Items staying on

2012-08-21 Thread Eric Caron
Hi listers,

I've been playing with Speakable items a bit and find it is working 
well for me over all.  My major frustration is that if I don't use it for 
awhile I need to go back to system preferences and turn it off and on again.  
then it works fine for a time.  Later it stops and again I need to turn it back 
on again.

Is anyone else having this problem?  anyone found a way to keep it working?  I 
don't want it to be on listen continuously as it will then do unexpected 
things.  I do fine with the key word but then suddenly it stops working and 
once I turn it off and on it works perfectly again. 

tips are greatly appreciated.

Eric Caron 

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Re: Blindcooltech

2012-01-05 Thread Eric Caron
Listers,

I've been wondering the same Thing.  I have always found great 
resources and timely information from blindcooltec.com  I thought maybe 
something was wrong with my subscription or iTunes or something.  If anyone 
knows what happened please let us know.  Also,  I am sad to report I have not 
gotten a new allwithmyiphone podcast in a long time either.  I sure hope Corey 
Ballard is still doing those great reviews.

Eric Caron 

On Jan 5, 2012, at 2:47 AM, Jürgen Fleger wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> does anyone know what's wrong with blindcooltech? The last episode I can find 
> is from end of Septembre. Is it somehow offline or did the RSS link change?
> 
> Thanks and
> all the best
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Re: to do list apps

2012-01-10 Thread Eric Caron
Hi Becky,

My recommendation would be list recorder.  You could do your to do 
lists as either recordings or as a text list as List Recorder does both.  It 
also now has do dates available.  I suspect you might find it useful in 
additional ways for your classes.  I use List recorder to organize everything 
from recorded lectures and meetings to lists of groceries.  The app is about 
$10.00 and is not only voice Over friendly but designed with voice over as a 
priority. 

I use this app a lot and it has the priority spot in my dock. 

Best.

Eric Caron 
On Jan 9, 2012, at 5:58 PM, Becky Knaub wrote:

> Hi All,
> I am taking 5 graduate level courses this semester and all of them require a 
> ton of work. SO does anyone have any suggestions for an accessible app that 
> would function like a to do list but for assignments that I could check off 
> after they are done? I guess what I am looking for is kind of like a homework 
> planner. I just want to make sure I don't miss out on doing all my 
> assignments, I already put their due dates in my calendar which was the first 
> time I used Ical. it was interesting experience but I figured it out.
> 
> Becky and C
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Re: question about List Recorder

2012-01-12 Thread Eric Caron
Hi Gigi,

There are more then one way to do recordings on list Recorder.  I'll describe 
my favorite and maybe this will answer your question.

First place yourself in the list you want to add a recording to.  
Now go to the bottom left corner of the iPhone and you will find the Record New 
item button. 

Double tap then wait to here the strum or other sound you chose to indicate you 
can start speaking.  now to end the recording simply use the scrub gesture, two 
fingers moved back and forth.  This will end the recording quietly with no 
tapping sound and place you back in your list on the item you just recorded. 

Alternatively if you double tap Record new item then don't touch the screen the 
focus will be on the pause button.  you can double tap to pause the recording.  
Sound volume will come up and you can explore the screen.  in this way you can 
easily pause and restart a recording in List Recorder.

I hope this info helps.

eric Caron 


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> Hi guys.
> I have a question about List Recorder for the iPhone. I just recorded an 
> item, and I was doing real fine until I wanted to stop the recording. I 
> couldn't find the button to do it, so I started flicking to find it. The only 
> trouble was that VoiceOver got real, real quiet like I had an earphone on. I 
> didn't, and I finally was able to hear the option by holding the iPhone right 
> up to my face. Has anybody had this trouble, and am I doing something wrong 
> here. 
> 
> Regards,
> Gigi
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Re: Blindcooltech

2012-01-12 Thread Eric Caron
Hi Jürgen and others,

Did anyone ever answer this question?   I use blind cooltech.com a lot and also 
miss getting podcasts.  Also, if I was to do another podcast  I would prefer to 
post it there.  Does anyone know if blindcooltech.com is still accepting and 
distributing podcasts?

eric Caron 




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> Hi,
> 
> does anyone know what's wrong with blindcooltech? The last episode I can find 
> is from end of Septembre. Is it somehow offline or did the RSS link change?
> 
> Thanks and
> all the best
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Re: Blindcooltech

2012-01-12 Thread Eric Caron
Hi Jürgen and others,

Did anyone ever answer this question?   I use blind cooltech.com a lot and also 
miss getting podcasts.  Also, if I was to do another podcast  I would prefer to 
post it there.  Does anyone know if blindcooltech.com is still accepting and 
distributing podcasts?

eric Caron 




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> Hi,
> 
> does anyone know what's wrong with blindcooltech? The last episode I can find 
> is from end of Septembre. Is it somehow offline or did the RSS link change?
> 
> Thanks and
> all the best
> Jürgen
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Re: Audacity or amadeus pro?

2012-01-25 Thread Eric Caron
Hi Ewoud,

I have used both.  I also used Audacity on the PC before I changed to 
Mac.  Amadeus Pro is the way to go.  

Eric Caron 

On Jan 25, 2012, at 7:53 AM, Ewoud wrote:

>> 
>> Hi all,
> 
> since a mo th i have my MacBook.
> Profesionaly and for fun i do a lot audio, before this new periode, that 
> happened in windows.
> Now Apple is here, I feel a bit lost. What programm should i use?
> is there a big gap between the free audacity or the payed version of amadeus 
> pro?
> Can anyone of you tell me more, or perhaps advice what to use and buy?
> The money is not the subject, its more about putting energie into something 
> compaired with the fact that VoiceOver is still not really my cup of tea.
> Eventually, it will smile.
> Hope to hear from yo.
> Dutch greets.
> Ewoud 
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Re: Audacity or amadeus pro?

2012-01-27 Thread Eric Caron
Hi Ewoud,

There is a lite version and full version of Amadeus Pro in the App 
store.  I would recommend going with the Full version.  As you develop your 
skills you will want more of the functions.

I found Amadeus Pro to be a solid reliable program and it was easier to use 
then Audacity on either the Mac or PC platform.  Both programs are good but 
Amadeus Pro is much easier to use with Voice Over, the functions such as 
labeling tracks is much easier, and more of the advanced functions are 
accessible.   I hope this recommendation helps.

Eric Caron  


On Jan 26, 2012, at 12:36 AM, Ewoud wrote:

> Its in the appstore. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Op 26 jan. 2012 om 04:38 heeft Eric Oyen  het volgende 
> geschreven:
> 
>> I found the download site just fine, but I can't seem to find out what the 
>> purchase price is.
>> 
>> -eric (the other eric)
>> On Jan 25, 2012, at 8:24 PM, Ewoud wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi eric. Thx. Can you be a litle more specific? Ewoud 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Op 26 jan. 2012 om 02:47 heeft Eric Caron  het 
>>> volgende geschreven:
>>> 
>>>> Hi Ewoud,
>>>> 
>>>>   I have used both.  I also used Audacity on the PC before I changed to 
>>>> Mac.  Amadeus Pro is the way to go.  
>>>> 
>>>> Eric Caron 
>>>> 
>>>> On Jan 25, 2012, at 7:53 AM, Ewoud wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>> 
>>>>> since a mo th i have my MacBook.
>>>>> Profesionaly and for fun i do a lot audio, before this new periode, that 
>>>>> happened in windows.
>>>>> Now Apple is here, I feel a bit lost. What programm should i use?
>>>>> is there a big gap between the free audacity or the payed version of 
>>>>> amadeus pro?
>>>>> Can anyone of you tell me more, or perhaps advice what to use and buy?
>>>>> The money is not the subject, its more about putting energie into 
>>>>> something compaired with the fact that VoiceOver is still not really my 
>>>>> cup of tea.
>>>>> Eventually, it will smile.
>>>>> Hope to hear from yo.
>>>>> Dutch greets.
>>>>> Ewoud 
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Missing blindcooltech, recommendations?

2012-01-29 Thread Eric Caron
Listers,

It seems as though blindcooltech.com is no longer accepting new 
podcasts and sending them out.  Over the last few years I've learned a great 
deal from this resource and even posted a few podcasts.  I first learned about 
the Victor Reader stream on this podcast, and as a result was reading audio 
books long before the US library service provided machines.  Thanks to this 
podcast I learned tricks on the National Library Service machines that make 
them excellent for studying with audio books and podcasts.  The set up was 
great because it provided a single place for multiple providers to donate 
demonstrations of technology for other visually impaired persons.  The 
diversity of content and providers was great.

So, Where can I now post a podcast for you folks that might be interested in 
technology?  What feeds are you folks using?  I'm especially interested in 
those podcasts provided by users who are sharing their knowledge. 
It is nice to subscribe to one feed that provides content from many people.  It 
would be less productive to subscribe to multiple individual feeds.  Further, I 
am glad to create podcasts but don't have the knowledge or desire to maintain 
my own site or podcast feed.

I hope there is a feed out there that provides this service now that 
blindcooltech.com is not.  Please share your suggestions.


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Re: Missing blindcooltech, recommendations?

2012-01-29 Thread Eric Caron
Hi Jürgen and others,

I don't know Larry from blincooltech.com so I don't know what happened 
but nothing has come out of blindcooltech.com since September.  I did upload a 
podcast recently and it seemed to go through but after some time it still has 
not showed up.  Also, I did write to Larry through the contact feature on the 
site and got no answer.  Also, a few listers have said that they heard there 
was a announcement about this but I have not directly heard it. 

So, I'm wondering what I'm missing from those who normally post there.  Also, I 
have some demonstrations I've done and have no way to share them.  At least not 
in the comprehensive way that I could with blindcooltech.com.

Currently, I have several demonstrations that show new users how to get more 
out of list Recorder but don't know where to post them.

I just spent over a hour mastering the Reminders App with voice over and 
planned  to do a podcast to save people time but again where would I  I post it?

eRic Caron 
 

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> Honnestly: I'm missing Blindcooltech as well. How do you know that they no 
> longer accept podcasts? Were you in contact with the owner? What did he say?
> 
> It's really a pitty.
> 
> All the best
> Jürgen
> Am 29.01.2012 um 20:35 schrieb Eric Caron:
> 
>> Listers,
>> 
>>  It seems as though blindcooltech.com is no longer accepting new 
>> podcasts and sending them out.  Over the last few years I've learned a great 
>> deal from this resource and even posted a few podcasts.  I first learned 
>> about the Victor Reader stream on this podcast, and as a result was reading 
>> audio books long before the US library service provided machines.  Thanks to 
>> this podcast I learned tricks on the National Library Service machines that 
>> make them excellent for studying with audio books and podcasts.  The set up 
>> was great because it provided a single place for multiple providers to 
>> donate demonstrations of technology for other visually impaired persons.  
>> The diversity of content and providers was great.
>> 
>> So, Where can I now post a podcast for you folks that might be interested in 
>> technology?  What feeds are you folks using?  I'm especially interested in 
>> those podcasts provided by users who are sharing their knowledge. 
>> It is nice to subscribe to one feed that provides content from many people.  
>> It would be less productive to subscribe to multiple individual feeds.  
>> Further, I am glad to create podcasts but don't have the knowledge or desire 
>> to maintain my own site or podcast feed.
>> 
>> I hope there is a feed out there that provides this service now that 
>> blindcooltech.com is not.  Please share your suggestions.
>> 
>> 
>> Eric Caron 
>> 
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Re: very bad impression about 10.7.3 was Re: 10.7.3 is out!

2012-02-02 Thread Eric Caron
Hi William,

You and I have the same Mac Book.  I noticed that when I opened Mail it was not 
working correctly.  I also notice my hard drive was busy.  I waited a chunk of 
time and when my hard drive stopped working Mail was ready to go.  I noticed 
when I opened iCal for the first time it also did some quick work before it was 
ready.  So I think if you open the application and wait a bit everything will 
sort itself out.  Well anyway that is what happened here with the same Mac Book.

Good luck 

Eric Caron 
On Feb 2, 2012, at 6:00 AM, William Windels wrote:

> Hello all,
> I had a very bad experience with 10.7.3:
> mostly all programs are crashing including mail, skype, yurufukurow, and 
> about mail , I wasn't able to start it.
> (this are programs that are starting by default).
> Also, osx seems to relogin by default when I try to start one of the programs 
> abouve: the usbscanner is making noice, I hear the welcome message of 
> voiceover. and the programs are starting again.
> 
> After this discovery, I have done a disk and permission repair from in the 
> recovery menu of Lion but this seems not to solve the problem.
> Finally, I am setting back my last time-machine backup... :(
> 
> About my configuration:
> I have a macbook from 2009: the one where sl was installed by default. There 
> is 4 gb of ram and a default hd from 250 GB.
> 
> Are there some other people with equal problems?
> 
> Kind regards,
> William Windels
> Verstuurd vanaf mijn iPad
> 
> Op 2-feb.-2012 om 03:32 heeft Alex Hall  het volgende 
> geschreven:
> 
>> No, this is an update to lion. That is, it is still lion, but with
>> fixes and some new features added. It is basically the same as getting
>> windows updates; you still have vista, win7, or whatever you start
>> with, but you just have an updated version. Hope that makes sense.
>> 
>> On 2/1/12, Jennifer Perdue  wrote:
>>> Sorry if this sound a little dumb, but I have Lion, is this upgrade one that
>>> is above Lion?
>>> 
>>> Jenny and my goofy guide Brooks
>>> On Feb 1, 2012, at 4:51 PM, Matthew Campbell wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi all.
>>>> Just a quick message to let you all know that Mac OS 10.7.3 is finally
>>>> out.
>>>> VO is a bit more responsive but not as much as it was in S L.
>>>> Check you're software update and it should appear.
>>>> HTH.
>>>> Matthew Campbell.
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Re: Funny Siri story

2012-02-05 Thread Eric Caron
OK, 

I don't know how helpful these are to iPhone users but I have a Siri 
story too.  I'm not making this up.

First,  I sometimes have trouble with Siri commands because Voice Over will be 
talking and Siri thinks this is part of what I'm asking.  The other day, at 
work no less, this happened.  My laughter brought in co workers and I was 
embarrassed to tell them what happened.

I asked some innocent conversion question but Voice over was talking. Siri 
spoke bak the question as"No sex tonight?"  Then while I was still recovering 
from that surprise question she answered. "No, probably not."  

Only my questioning co workers presence in my doorway got me to stop laughing 
and wonder how I was going to explain myself out of this mess.

In a effort to make this thread list worthy, I have a tip.  I learned listening 
to the Vision Australia podcasts that once Siri is activated a two finger 
double tap will act like tapping the Siri button.  I find this reduces errors 
including embarrassing ones.
 

Eric Caron 



On Feb 5, 2012, at 1:57 PM, Courtney Curran wrote:

> Hi,
> I have a funny siri story too, I asked siri what date President's Day was 
> this year, and she said the date, then proceeded to say "I hope I get off 
> that day". For those of you who aren't in the U.S., people usually get off of 
> work and school on President's Day. I just thought that was funny what siri 
> said.
> Courtney
> On 05/02/2012, at 12:01 in the Afternoon, Kawal Gucukoglu wrote:
> 
>> Gigi,
>> 
>> Thank you so much for the laugh.
>> 
>> I also have a funny story as I asked Siri what the time was in another part 
>> of the world, and after she told me, she asked if there was anything going 
>> on in that part of the world as I had asked her the same question for a 
>> number of days.  I said to her that she was nosy and she said if you insist 
>> Kawal.  That also cracked me up.
>> On 5 Feb 2012, at 16:32, Gigi wrote:
>> 
>>>> Hi guys
>>> I have to tell you guys this funny Siri story. After Siri misunderstood me 
>>> two or three times, I snapped at her. I said "those California guys need to 
>>> do a better job and teach you to understand southern talk. "After giving me 
>>> back what I had said, she said "give me another chance." Well, she didn't 
>>> give me the music I had asked for, but by this time, I was laughing so much 
>>> it didn't matter.
>>> Regards
>>> Gigi
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