Hi Tim and others, Sluggish moving of mail messages solved. Well, In the process of trying to get hand off to work again I turned off and restarted my computer. And though I’m still working on solving the hand off issue the sluggish mail moving behavior is gone. Got to love that restart problem solving technique. Keep reminding me of this next time I have an unusual behavior not seen by others.
Thanks to all those working with me through these computer quirks. I don’t think I would have upgraded to Catalina If I didn’t know this support list was out there. Eric Caron > On Mar 25, 2020, at 3:31 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries > <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > Hi, > > Strange indeed. Not particularly logical, but often inconsistent things like > this don't have much logic to them. > > Later... > > > Tim Kilburn > Jamf Certified Tech > Apple Teacher > (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) > Fort McMurray, AB Canada > > On Mar 25, 2020, at 12:06, Eric Caron <eric.caro...@gmail.com > <mailto:eric.caro...@gmail.com>> wrote: > > Hi Tim, > > I did some additional experimentation. I don’t expect to solve this > but here is something interesting. > > If I press the context menu and then try to go to move it is slow and usually > says mail busy at least once. > > However, If I press the context menu and then close it and immediately open > it again my computer is snappy and I can move the email quickly. > > Very strange. > > But for now it makes me a little less crazy to do it this way as I’m not > waiting for the computer to respond. > > Just thought I’d share in case someone else experiences this. > > Glad your family is all together. We unfortunately have a member in a > distant country in quarantine and after 13 days of testing negative now > tested positive. And, Vermont USA where I live is now on lock down. > > Crazy times, but man, I appreciate my technology more then ever! > > Eric Caron > > >> On Mar 24, 2020, at 4:55 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries >> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >> wrote: >> >> Hi Eric, >> >> The process you've outlined is more or less the same as I. Wow, either >> great minds think alike, or fools seldom differ :). My MBP is similar to >> yours in that it is a 2017 model with 16 GB RAM, 4 Thunderbolt ports, Touch >> Bar etc. I move messages from one account into a different account's >> mailbox sometimes as well, and it seems seamless to me. Maybe I'm missing >> something, or maybe I'm just having better luck than you. >> >> Later... >> >> >> Tim Kilburn >> Jamf Certified Tech >> Apple Teacher >> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) >> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >> >> On Mar 24, 2020, at 14:47, Eric Caron <eric.caro...@gmail.com >> <mailto:eric.caro...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> Hi Tim, >> >> I have 7 accounts. One of them is off line as it is a old employer, but >> I have many emails in that account I might want to search through in the >> future. Of the others one is not very active. The other 5 are established >> with many mailboxes each. >> >> I use the same processes you described. Still by mid day I end up with many >> windows open. >> >> Even though having all windows closed helps a lot moving a message is still >> slow. >> >> The way I move a message is to open the context menu and go to copy, I arrow >> up once to move and then right arrow. I enter a few letters of the mail box >> name and when it comes up press enter. >> >> It is slow when I first do this. If I move a second message it is often >> more responsive. It was not doing this in Mojave, although I think it did >> in the beginning. >> >> Thank you for the thoughtful replies. >> >> It is now slow but much more usable. >> >> I keep a lot of messages in organized mailboxes under many accounts and I >> wonder if there is some time needed for everything to settle in after the OS >> upgrade. >> >> Eric Caron >> >>> On Mar 23, 2020, at 1:11 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries >>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Eric, >>> >>> Yes, that machine should handle things just fine. What process do you use >>> when opening mail messages? Do you have multiple mail accounts that you're >>> accessing or just one with many messages? Myself, I do have five main mail >>> accounts that I'm accessing at any given time. I use the return key to >>> open the message, then cmd-w to close the message if I don't have to act on >>> it immediately. cmd-r to reply then cmd-shift-d to send. >>> >>> HTH. >>> >>> Later... >>> >>> >>> Tim Kilburn >>> Jamf Certified Tech >>> Apple Teacher >>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) >>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >>> >>> On Mar 23, 2020, at 11:04, Eric Caron <eric.caro...@gmail.com >>> <mailto:eric.caro...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi Tim, >>> >>> I had the slow move happen once before after upgrading and after a >>> period of time it seemed to improve. >>> >>> This time I finally noticed that the response time in mail was improved to >>> almost normal if I didn’t have a lot of mail windows open. >>> >>> Somehow while I work in mail I end up with many open windows. I have to >>> remember now and then to look at the window chooser and it may say 12 >>> windows are open or even more then 20. Once I close them all the app is >>> more responsive. >>> >>> I’m not sure how I end up opening so many windows in mail. I am just >>> opening messages or reading things or sending things and suddenly if I >>> check the window chooser I have all kinds of mail windows open. >>> >>> Any idea why that happens? >>> >>> But, in the meantime closing them all fixes the sluggish response. >>> >>> Your response stating you have not seen this caused me to keep >>> experimenting until I found a solution. >>> >>> I didn’t notice this in my last OS but still had the many open windows >>> issue. >>> >>> My computer is a 2018 Mac book pro with 16 gigs ram so that should be able >>> to handle moving a message to a mail box. >>> >>> Eric Caron >>> >>> >>>> On Mar 23, 2020, at 12:01 PM, 'Tim Kilburn' via MacVisionaries >>>> <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com <mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> I have not noticed this at all. Moving messages behaves just the same as >>>> it has in previous iterations and is not slow at all. >>>> >>>> Later... >>>> >>>> >>>> Tim Kilburn >>>> Jamf Certified Tech >>>> Apple Teacher >>>> (with Swift Playgrounds Recognition) >>>> Fort McMurray, AB Canada >>>> >>>> On Mar 22, 2020, at 13:03, Eric Caron <eric.caro...@gmail.com >>>> <mailto:eric.caro...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Hi listers, >>>> >>>> One thing I have noticed after updating to Catalina is that moving >>>> messages to a mail box is slow with mail stating busy and then after a >>>> pause finally opening up the context menu and eventually the list to move >>>> to a mailbox. >>>> >>>> Does this improve with time? It has been about a week. >>>> >>>> Have others noticed this behavior? >>>> >>>> I do have a lot of accounts and a lot of mailboxes where I organize >>>> information. 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