Hi Alex, Jonathan and others,

        This is a great thread but I must say that I still think it would be 
very very helpful to be able to have the Voice Over key be one key.  I ordered 
a full USB keyboard about a year ago so that I could use the num pad commander. 
 I like it a lot, but frankly, I would not need it if the Voice Over key could 
be assigned to the caps lock key.  It is a matter of keeping my fingers on the 
home keys.  I'm much faster on the keyboard if I can just leave my fingers on 
the home row and type away.  But with Voice Over keys needing two fingers I 
just can't do that. Further on the portables VO keys are only on the left side. 
 this forces me to do all kinds of finger contortions to do a simple command.  
I'm glad Voice Over gives us lots of ways to do things.  I use them all but, 
every 6 months or so I write to accessibility@@apple.com and ask please please 
can I have the caps lock key assignably as the VO keys?  It would be great to 
have this be one more VO option.

It was a thread like this one that caused me to purchase a full size keyboard, 
so I could use the num pad commander.  This helped a great deal.  Still it is 
time for me to write my next reminder to apple!

Warmly,

ERic Caron 

On May 5, 2012, at 10:02 PM, Jonathan C. Cohn wrote:

> 90% of what I need to do can be done with the numpad commander.  I did add 
> two additional keystrokes to the default Lion commander.
> 
> 1.  On the "3" key I added the jump command that gets executed with VO-J
> 2. With the Enter key I have it set to toggle betweenWeb dom and group mode.  
> 
> The defaults are 
> 1. Item chooser 
> 2. down 
> 3. Jump
> 4. Left
> 5. Default action (same as vo-space)
> 6. Right
> 7. Interact with item
> 8  up
> 
> 9 . Stop Interacting
> 
> The 3 keys on the top row above 789 are
> Doc, Menu , and window chooser
> 
> The plus key brings up the contextual menu.
> 
> I also use the insert + numpad keys for getting to next/previous 
> heading, link, visited link, table, control and hot spot.
> 
> If there is a specific function you need help with, I can probably tell you 
> where it is.
> 
> Best wishes,
> 
> Jonathan
> 
> Jonathan C. Cohn
> jonc...@cox.net
> 
> 
> 
> On May 5, 2012, at 4:47 PM, Alex Hall wrote:
> 
>> True. I don't have a trackpad, but I do have a numpad, I often forget
>> I set up a commander for it though.
>> 
>> On 5/5/12, Scott Howell <scottn3...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> And if you are looking for a way to navigate without having to hold those
>>> keys down you always have quick nav, trackpad commander, and numpad
>>> commander assuming you have a numberpad on your keyboard.
>>> 
>>> On May 5, 2012, at 1:02 PM, Teresa Cochran wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I know of no way to do this. However, you can use VO-semicolon to lock the
>>>> VO keys on. It's a toggle, so you can press it again to turn it off.
>>>> 
>>>> HTH,
>>>> Teresa
>>>> I'm a pantheist; I worship Pan.
>>>> 
>>>> On May 5, 2012, at 8:50 AM, Alex Hall wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>> I have an odd question. Is it possible to define a single key to act
>>>>> as the VO keys? So, instead of holding down alt and control (whatever
>>>>> the mac calls them) you hold down only one? Please don't start saying
>>>>> that "you just want windows-like control". It's simply that hitting a
>>>>> single key, be it insert or not, with other keys to input commands is
>>>>> more streamlined and easier to do, IMHO. So, if it's possible to map
>>>>> VO comman keys to be something different, could anyone tell me how?
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>> 
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