Yeah, the 450b "high" gain ended up a few dBi under a 450d or 450+reflector in 5.7ghz. 450b peak gain was in DFS land where the gain on the AP antenna was the limiting factor, not the SM.
On Tue, Nov 26, 2024 at 9:52 AM Sam Lambie <samtaos...@gmail.com> wrote: > Not really. 450b sucks with Fresnel issue and other limitations. 450 and > 450 retro SM's with reflector dishes still do a solid job for us here in NM. > > On Mon, Nov 25, 2024 at 3:44 PM Ken Hohhof <khoh...@kwom.com> wrote: > >> Do you have 450 and 450b reversed? >> >> >> >> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *Sam Lambie >> *Sent:* Monday, November 25, 2024 4:39 PM >> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com> >> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] removal of WISP equipment >> >> >> >> Because a new 450 SM is $280. A perfectly good used radio is free for >> redeployment. We have a recovery list that the installers reference when >> they are in the area and swing by and pick up the radio and dish. We leave >> the mast and cable as it's now considered part of the house. It makes good >> business sense. Now 450b's can rot in hell as far as I care. >> >> >> >> On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 11:25 AM Josh Luthman < >> j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> wrote: >> >> Nope. It's just business. Why spend a greater amount to pick up the >> equipment? >> >> >> >> On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 2:44 PM David Hannum <dhan...@mynewera.net> >> wrote: >> >> Josh - I bet your nickname in school was Eeyore . . . >> >> >> >> On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 2:00 PM Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> >> wrote: >> >> $25 for a radio for $10 in gas to pick it up, $10 dealing with the >> customer, $10 in caulk/silicon, $10 hearing them complain about nothing, >> $10 in labor costs, $1000 in lost revenue because you wasted time picking >> up a $25 radio instead of hooking up a new customer >> >> >> >> On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 10:01 AM David Hannum <dhan...@mynewera.net> >> wrote: >> >> Like Adam, we keep tabs of where the gear is and when we are in the area, >> we swing by and pick it up. But not sure why you'd not want to rescue good >> radios. Folks like Wireless Units and Surplus Wireless will purchase it >> off you, so don't just arbitrarily abandon it. $25 (or whatever they give >> you) for a used SM is at least something for it. >> >> >> >> Dave >> >> >> >> On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 8:26 AM Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> About the same. We kept a running list of "pickups" and it would be >> filler work for the field people. They'd remove the antenna and maybe the >> cable, but never worried about the POE. >> >> We usually got to them pretty quick because we left empty spaces in the >> schedule for service calls, and if there were no service calls we'd go do >> pickups. >> >> >> >> On Mon, Nov 18, 2024 at 12:30 PM Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi] < >> j...@brazoswifi.com> wrote: >> >> We say: "we will grab it the next time we are in the area". >> >> >> >> No special trip. >> >> >> >> Jim >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S22+ 5G, an AT&T 5G smartphone >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -------- Original message -------- >> >> From: Ken Hohhof <khoh...@kwom.com> >> >> Date: 11/18/24 11:16 AM (GMT-06:00) >> >> To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <af@af.afmug.com> >> >> Subject: [AFMUG] removal of WISP equipment >> >> >> >> We are starting to run into cases where customers cancel (most commonly >> to get T-Mobile Home Internet) and while the CPE is still perfectly >> functional we would not redeploy it. Like a Cambium 450 SM with a >> reflector dish (as opposed to a 450b). So we don’t want it back, and don’t >> want to send a tech out to remove it. >> >> >> >> Sometimes customers insist they want us to take it off their house. Is >> there some legal obligation for us to do this? I think if you discontinue >> DISH or DirecTV and want the sat dish taken down, they don’t come do it >> (unless maybe you pay to have it done). >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> >> >> >> -- >> >> -- >> *Sam Lambie* >> Taosnet Wireless Tech. >> 575-758-7598 Office >> www.Taosnet.com <http://www.newmex.com> >> -- >> AF mailing list >> AF@af.afmug.com >> http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >> > > > -- > -- > *Sam Lambie* > Taosnet Wireless Tech. > 575-758-7598 Office > www.Taosnet.com <http://www.newmex.com> > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com > http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com >
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