We are supposed to get our first snow tomorrow.  What I don’t like is to send a 
skilled field tech up someone’s roof or TV tower just to take down a dish, 
bring it back and throw it in the dumpster.  Our area is also spread out enough 
that it might be months before we can do that without driving a significant 
number of miles.

 

Maybe I’m just getting cranky as I get old, but I feel like I value employees 
more than customers, especially ex customers who cancelled for something 
cheaper.  It’s easier to get new customers than new techs.

 

From: AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> On Behalf Of ch...@go-mtc.com
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2024 12:30 PM
To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
Subject: Re: [AFMUG] removal of WISP equipment

 

There is the old marketing rubric of “constant contact”.  The former customer 
sees your company, sees they are still getting something of benefit.  That has 
intangible benefit.  

 

In other words, “cast your bread upon the water.  “

 

It costs little if you use down time and dead head time to pick up the gear.  

 

From: Josh Luthman 

Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2024 11:23 AM

To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group 

Subject: Re: [AFMUG] removal of WISP equipment

 

Nope.  It's just business.  Why spend a greater amount to pick up the equipment?

 

On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 2:44 PM David Hannum <dhan...@mynewera.net 
<mailto:dhan...@mynewera.net> > wrote:

Josh - I bet your nickname in school was Eeyore . . . 

 

On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 2:00 PM Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com 
<mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> > wrote:

$25 for a radio for $10 in gas to pick it up, $10 dealing with the customer, 
$10 in caulk/silicon, $10 hearing them complain about nothing, $10 in labor 
costs, $1000 in lost revenue because you wasted time picking up a $25 radio 
instead of hooking up a new customer

 

On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 10:01 AM David Hannum <dhan...@mynewera.net 
<mailto:dhan...@mynewera.net> > wrote:

Like Adam, we keep tabs of where the gear is and when we are in the area, we 
swing by and pick it up.  But not sure why you'd not want to rescue good 
radios.  Folks like Wireless Units and Surplus Wireless will purchase it off 
you, so don't just arbitrarily abandon it.  $25 (or whatever they give you) for 
a used SM is at least something for it. 

 

Dave

 

On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 8:26 AM Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com 
<mailto:dmmoff...@gmail.com> > wrote:

About the same.  We kept a running list of "pickups" and it would be filler 
work for the field people. They'd remove the antenna and maybe the cable, but 
never worried about the POE. 

We usually got to them pretty quick because we left empty spaces in the 
schedule for service calls, and if there were no service calls we'd go do 
pickups.  

 

On Mon, Nov 18, 2024 at 12:30 PM Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi] <j...@brazoswifi.com 
<mailto:j...@brazoswifi.com> > wrote:

We say: "we will grab it the next time we are in the area".

 

No special trip.

 

Jim

 

 

 

Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S22+ 5G, an AT&T 5G smartphone

 

 

 

-------- Original message --------

From: Ken Hohhof <khoh...@kwom.com <mailto:khoh...@kwom.com> > 

Date: 11/18/24 11:16 AM (GMT-06:00) 

To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <af@af.afmug.com 
<mailto:af@af.afmug.com> > 

Subject: [AFMUG] removal of WISP equipment 

 

We are starting to run into cases where customers cancel (most commonly to get 
T-Mobile Home Internet) and while the CPE is still perfectly functional we 
would not redeploy it.  Like a Cambium 450 SM with a reflector dish (as opposed 
to a 450b).  So we don’t want it back, and don’t want to send a tech out to 
remove it.

 

Sometimes customers insist they want us to take it off their house.  Is there 
some legal obligation for us to do this?  I think if you discontinue DISH or 
DirecTV and want the sat dish taken down, they don’t come do it (unless maybe 
you pay to have it done).

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