a burning house melts roof snow

But its good you value your employee safety and make that call for them

I remember when i thought i was being loyal and hard working going out to
throw  salt on an iced roof so i could get up there to do the install. it
partly worked, but was still slick as snot. Id punch a tech if they wanted
to do that now. I figure its best if theyr gonna get hurt to do it in the
office and not in the field

On Wed, Nov 20, 2024 at 12:40 PM Ken Hohhof <khoh...@kwom.com> wrote:

> We are supposed to get our first snow tomorrow.  What I don’t like is to
> send a skilled field tech up someone’s roof or TV tower just to take down a
> dish, bring it back and throw it in the dumpster.  Our area is also spread
> out enough that it might be months before we can do that without driving a
> significant number of miles.
>
>
>
> Maybe I’m just getting cranky as I get old, but I feel like I value
> employees more than customers, especially ex customers who cancelled for
> something cheaper.  It’s easier to get new customers than new techs.
>
>
>
> *From:* AF <af-boun...@af.afmug.com> *On Behalf Of *ch...@go-mtc.com
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 20, 2024 12:30 PM
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group <af@af.afmug.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] removal of WISP equipment
>
>
>
> There is the old marketing rubric of “constant contact”.  The former
> customer sees your company, sees they are still getting something of
> benefit.  That has intangible benefit.
>
>
>
> In other words, “cast your bread upon the water.  “
>
>
>
> It costs little if you use down time and dead head time to pick up the
> gear.
>
>
>
> *From:* Josh Luthman
>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 20, 2024 11:23 AM
>
> *To:* AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group
>
> *Subject:* Re: [AFMUG] removal of WISP equipment
>
>
>
> Nope.  It's just business.  Why spend a greater amount to pick up the
> equipment?
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 2:44 PM David Hannum <dhan...@mynewera.net> wrote:
>
> Josh - I bet your nickname in school was Eeyore . . .
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 2:00 PM Josh Luthman <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>
> wrote:
>
> $25 for a radio for $10 in gas to pick it up, $10 dealing with the
> customer, $10 in caulk/silicon, $10 hearing them complain about nothing,
> $10 in labor costs, $1000 in lost revenue because you wasted time picking
> up a $25 radio instead of hooking up a new customer
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 10:01 AM David Hannum <dhan...@mynewera.net>
> wrote:
>
> Like Adam, we keep tabs of where the gear is and when we are in the area,
> we swing by and pick it up.  But not sure why you'd not want to rescue good
> radios.  Folks like Wireless Units and Surplus Wireless will purchase it
> off you, so don't just arbitrarily abandon it.  $25 (or whatever they give
> you) for a used SM is at least something for it.
>
>
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 19, 2024 at 8:26 AM Adam Moffett <dmmoff...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> About the same.  We kept a running list of "pickups" and it would be
> filler work for the field people. They'd remove the antenna and maybe the
> cable, but never worried about the POE.
>
> We usually got to them pretty quick because we left empty spaces in the
> schedule for service calls, and if there were no service calls we'd go do
> pickups.
>
>
>
> On Mon, Nov 18, 2024 at 12:30 PM Jim Bouse [Brazos WiFi] <
> j...@brazoswifi.com> wrote:
>
> We say: "we will grab it the next time we are in the area".
>
>
>
> No special trip.
>
>
>
> Jim
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S22+ 5G, an AT&T 5G smartphone
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -------- Original message --------
>
> From: Ken Hohhof <khoh...@kwom.com>
>
> Date: 11/18/24 11:16 AM (GMT-06:00)
>
> To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' <af@af.afmug.com>
>
> Subject: [AFMUG] removal of WISP equipment
>
>
>
> We are starting to run into cases where customers cancel (most commonly to
> get T-Mobile Home Internet) and while the CPE is still perfectly functional
> we would not redeploy it.  Like a Cambium 450 SM with a reflector dish (as
> opposed to a 450b).  So we don’t want it back, and don’t want to send a
> tech out to remove it.
>
>
>
> Sometimes customers insist they want us to take it off their house.  Is
> there some legal obligation for us to do this?  I think if you discontinue
> DISH or DirecTV and want the sat dish taken down, they don’t come do it
> (unless maybe you pay to have it done).
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