Here's my tounge in cheek proposal:
Web2py: puts the fun back in coding -- and extra time for playing with
taglines ...
On Mar 15, 7:04 pm, villas wrote:
> The web2py tagline is currently: 'Enterprise Web Framework'.
>
> Massimo agrees that this might be improved and this thread is to
> solicit
OK, that makes sense. :)
On Tuesday, March 15, 2011 11:56:17 PM UTC-4, encompass wrote:
> I wanted it to mean as much as possible. It was intended to mean you can be
> productive and it was thought out with experienced hands when created.
> On 15 Mar 2011 22:13, "Anthony" wrote:
> >
> > I like
I wanted it to mean as much as possible. It was intended to mean you can be
productive and it was thought out with experienced hands when created.
On 15 Mar 2011 22:13, "Anthony" wrote:
>
> I like "Productivity by Design" because it sounds catchy and includes the
word "Productivity", but I'm sort
Makes sense I wanted them in a table also. But the site settings table is
already in existance, with that code you provided how does that work? Or am
I totally missing something?
*cheers
On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 1:50 PM, howesc wrote:
> yes, you should be putting your paypal values in there. i
'Elegance through simplicity'
On Mar 16, 4:12 am, mikech wrote:
> I like the idea of rotating taglines.
>
> Instant gratification comes to mind.
Note, it also appears as the in the HTML and vertically on
the side of the page in the online book: http://www.web2py.com/book/.
On Tuesday, March 15, 2011 11:03:14 PM UTC-4, Massimo Di Pierro wrote:
> I agree. I will remove it with the next commit.
>
> On Mar 15, 9:50 pm, Anthony wrote:
>
I agree. I will remove it with the next commit.
On Mar 15, 9:50 pm, Anthony wrote:
> I suppose we don't need a tagline at all. I think it only appears near the
> top of the home page and on the book cover, so it's not exactly ubiquitous.
> Not all frameworks have a tagline. We could just stick wi
I suppose we don't need a tagline at all. I think it only appears near the
top of the home page and on the book cover, so it's not exactly ubiquitous.
Not all frameworks have a tagline. We could just stick with a descriptive
summary sentence on the home page, which is currently:
"Free open sour
Thanks!
On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 1:06 PM, VP wrote:
> I answered your email. Briefly (on Linux/Unix):
>
> + Use "crontab -l" to see your cron entries.
>
> + Use "crontab -e" to create/edit cron entries.
>
> + Google / wikipedia for cron syntax. To execute a URL (e.g. web2py
> controller, you c
I used the code that Massimo posted for returning the xml, which works
perfectly fine when exporting from a single table, but when selecting
fields from two tables it gets stuck, due to table names propagated in
the resultset. Being a newbie w web2py and python I'm not finding an
elegant solution a
We were in the same issue to choose the new logo. Had a votation and from a
list with 94 logos we ended with the most simple and compact.
Today, I think everyone agrees that the logo is good enought.
I really think we need to drop "enterprise" so what about just dropping it?
As simple enought
For pragmatists who get things done
On Mar 15, 6:48 pm, b00m_chef wrote:
> Web2py: the framework for everyone!
>
> or
>
> Web2py: for realists with deadlines!
>
> or
>
> Web2py: best thing since django/ruby!
>
> On Mar 14, 10:04 pm, VP wrote:
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> > Another vote for dropping the word
Something like this:
def names30():
import copy
n=db.person.name
ff=[]
for i in range(0,30):
nn=copy.copy(n)
nn.name='%s%02i' %(nn.name,i)
ff.append(nn)
form=SQLFORM.factory(*ff)
if form.accepts(request.vars, session, dbio=False):
for v in form.vars.values():
if v
If it's all too boring, we could spice things up! :)
web2py: making web development sexy since 2007.
- Try to avoid vagueness or bad marketing terms. Be factual.
- Would not try to use more than three properties. (secure, scalabale,
fast, easy to learn, productive, great community etc.) Pick the three that
are most important.
- Let's not forget the obvious, explain t
Hi bOOm_chef and Albert,
Please note there is a new thread asking for proposals for the new
tagline.
http://groups.google.com/group/web2py/browse_thread/thread/5d4b6e38eac2260f/bf34c5abc1800c9d#bf34c5abc1800c9d
I like the 'Getting Things Done' proposal since I'm a bit obsesive with
productivity.
On Wed, Mar 16, 2011 at 12:48 AM, b00m_chef wrote:
> Web2py: the framework for everyone!
>
> or
>
> Web2py: for realists with deadlines!
>
> or
>
> Web2py: best thing since django/ruby!
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mar 14,
Web2py: the framework for everyone!
or
Web2py: for realists with deadlines!
or
Web2py: best thing since django/ruby!
On Mar 14, 10:04 pm, VP wrote:
> Another vote for dropping the word "Enterprise". I don't think the
> word will make it any more convincing for "enterprise" people when
>
Hello,
I need to key around 30 value for a single field at regular times.
Using a loop form in a view doesn't fit this purpose as I will have to
submit every form.
I'd prefer a kind a tabular and a single submit button that would save
the 30 values in the database.
Can somebody give me a clue on
Thanks Kevin I've done those.
On Mar 15, 7:55 pm, Kevin Ivarsen wrote:
> Villas - thanks for making those corrections. I went through to verify
> the edits, and crossed them off in my document.
>
> Today I added many more suggested changes for chapters 5 thru 7 for
> any editors interested in inc
Here's mine, just for fun.
Web2py
{{=response.subtitle}}
Its an original tagline :P
I'm struggling to complete a re-write of the code to be more generic. Still
working. And I'm going to try to put it in Massimo's tutorial format.
I think "python all the way down" invites controversy since the main
criticism of web2py is that it is not pythonic.
Hi Miguel,
I had a similar problem on ubuntu linux recently and the solution was
to enter the port number (which is usually 3306) in connect string.
Try: mysql://username:password@localhost:port/test
Cheers
Tamas
On Mar 16, 2:08 am, Miguel wrote:
> Hello to all, I have created a new project u
Web2py: The python framework for speed, security and scalability.
On Mar 15, 2011, at 2:42 PM, Massimo Di Pierro wrote:
>
> how about "designed for productivity"?
Productivity. Security. Community.
>
> On Mar 15, 2:49 pm, mwolfe02 wrote:
>> +1 Productivity by design
>>
>> On Mar 15, 2:13 pm, danto wrote:
>>
>>> 2011/3/15 mart
>>
Just throwing in my
On Mar 15, 2011, at 12:17 PM, Corne wrote:
>
>> When you set your own session_id, does the corresponding session file always
>> exist?
> Yes, it does. I'm sure..
>
>> If that's not an issue, you could try setting response.session_new = False
>> before calling session.connect
> I already tried t
how about "designed for productivity"?
On Mar 15, 2:49 pm, mwolfe02 wrote:
> +1 Productivity by design
>
> On Mar 15, 2:13 pm, danto wrote:
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> > 2011/3/15 mart
>
> > > Just throwing in my 2 cents worth,
>
> > > Personally, I kind of like the that it says Enterprise, but as
> > > me
> When you set your own session_id, does the corresponding session file always
> exist?
Yes, it does. I'm sure..
> If that's not an issue, you could try setting response.session_new = False
> before calling session.connect
I already tried that, and then it does work.
The problem we are running i
yes, you should be putting your paypal values in there. i abstracted them
to a site-settings table so an admin could update them (and we could switch
them easily between test and production values).
make sense?
cfh
I have been trying this for a while now and have had some serious problems
with BLOBs. I have taken the DAL out of the equation by using executesql().
I am grabbing a picture blob from an existing database (each picture os
about 35 kb). I am taking the blob and writing it to a file, but only the
+1
On Mar 15, 2:43 pm, Bruno Rocha wrote:
> web2py - Code Less Create More!
> --
> Bruno Rocha
> [ About me:http://zerp.ly/rochacbruno]
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 8:04 AM, villas wrote:
> > The web2py tagline is currently: 'Enterprise Web Framework'.
>
> > Massimo agrees that this m
IMNSHO, "Productivity by Design" sucks.
It is vague, wishy-washy, and banal. It could be said of every web
development tool from Apache to Zope. It fails to capture any of
web2py's essential advantages.
Massimo's offer of "rapid web development that scales" is closer to
the mark because it at l
Miguel,
MySQL can communicate over either TCP or a named pipe. It's possible
that your MySQL server is only listening on the named pipe. I could
imagine that the mysql command line client would connect successfully
over this channel, but Python would try to connect to the TCP socket
and fail.
Try
I like "Productivity by Design" because it sounds catchy and includes the
word "Productivity", but I'm sort of wondering what we mean with "by
design". Does that imply we didn't accidentally create a productive
framework but have done so with forethought "by design"? Or perhaps that
web2py achi
I like the idea of rotating taglines.
Instant gratification comes to mind.
I don't know how to fit it in elegantly, but wanted to offer the idea
of relating Python's "batteries included" mantra to web2py. That's one
thing that struck me about web2py early on - it gives you a lot of
nice features right off the bat.
Kevin
On Mar 15, 3:49 pm, mwolfe02 wrote:
> +1 Product
Villas - thanks for making those corrections. I went through to verify
the edits, and crossed them off in my document.
Today I added many more suggested changes for chapters 5 thru 7 for
any editors interested in incorporating them into the book. Many of
them are small nitpicks, but the Validators
+1 Productivity by design
On Mar 15, 2:13 pm, danto wrote:
> 2011/3/15 mart
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> > Just throwing in my 2 cents worth,
>
> > Personally, I kind of like the that it says Enterprise, but as
> > mentioned here, depends on who's reading it. This is my first try in
> > world if open sou
in *base.css* for welcome app change
input[type="text"], input[type="password"], select {
height: 16px;
}
to
input[type="text"], input[type="password"], select {
height: 25px;
}
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 9:12 PM, Ialejandro wrote:
> Hi every body! I have some issues with Internet Expl
FYI, Nginx + uWSGI is what DotCloud uses for its Python hosting (HAProxy for
load balancing): http://docs.dotcloud.com/components/python/
On Tuesday, March 15, 2011 3:11:53 PM UTC-4, pbreit wrote:
> I just switched from Cherokee to Nginx but have not investigated load
> balancing yet. Is Rocket
I just switched from Cherokee to Nginx but have not investigated load
balancing yet. Is Rocket necessary? I have a Nginx/uWSGI setup. I posted my
install Fabfile on another thread.
2011/3/15 mart
> Just throwing in my 2 cents worth,
>
> Personally, I kind of like the that it says Enterprise, but as
> mentioned here, depends on who's reading it. This is my first try in
> world if open source so the experience may speak to me differently
> than let's say the younger crowed wh
I do not think the tagline should be a question.
On Mar 15, 1:44 pm, mart wrote:
> Just throwing in my 2 cents worth,
>
> Personally, I kind of like the that it says Enterprise, but as
> mentioned here, depends on who's reading it. This is my first try in
> world if open source so the experience
On Mar 15, 2011, at 11:33 AM, Massimo Di Pierro wrote:
>
> Right now the session is a combination of client ip and a uuid. The
> uuid prevents session hijacking.
>
> The ip serves two purposes:
> - the server can find expired sessions more easily
> - the apps the reject sessions coming from wrong
Just throwing in my 2 cents worth,
Personally, I kind of like the that it says Enterprise, but as
mentioned here, depends on who's reading it. This is my first try in
world if open source so the experience may speak to me differently
than let's say the younger crowed who may be growing up with it.
LOL
On Mar 15, 11:31 am, VP wrote:
> Web2py: The Web Framework for Pragmatists with Deadlines.
>
> (Don't ask how I came up with that. :-))
Right now the session is a combination of client ip and a uuid. The
uuid prevents session hijacking.
The ip serves two purposes:
- the server can find expired sessions more easily
- the apps the reject sessions coming from wrong ip thus further
protecting against hijacking.
On Mar 15, 11:55 am, J
web2py user Jay at PyCon really convinced to look into nginex. It is
an amazing server, fast, easy to configure and can do load balancing:
http://wiki.nginx.org/NginxHttpUpstreamModule
Just start multiple web2py instances with rocket (on the same machine
or different machines) and add to the ngine
+1
2011/3/15 Bruno Rocha
> web2py
> Productivity by design
> web2py is an open-source full stack web framework for rapid development
> that scales
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 2:45 PM, pbreit wrote:
>
>> I like both "Productivity by design" and "Rapid development that scales".
>>
>> Also not
web2py
Productivity by design
web2py is an open-source full stack web framework for rapid development that
scales
On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 2:45 PM, pbreit wrote:
> I like both "Productivity by design" and "Rapid development that scales".
>
> Also note that Django and Rails, at least, also have a
Isn't load balancing usually handle by the web server or a load balancer?
Can the framework really address load balancing effectively? Would be cool
if it could, of course.
I like both "Productivity by design" and "Rapid development that scales".
Also note that Django and Rails, at least, also have a short description.
Django
The Web framework for perfectionists with deadlines
Django makes it easier to build better Web apps more quickly and with less
code.
Rails
W
On Mar 15, 2011, at 7:15 AM, Corne wrote:
>
> We (again) looked deeper into what is really happening; and it is yet
> different.
>
> What we ran into is the following:
> We tried to set a session_id our self based on information in the url,
> which in this case resulted in calling the session con
I haven't come up with any great tagline ideas of my own yet, but as we
generate ideas, it might be useful to first think about some of the
distinctive attributes and goals of web2py and its community. Here are some
things I think about when I think of web2py:
- Easy (to set up, learn, use
Web2py: The Web Framework for Pragmatists with Deadlines.
(Don't ask how I came up with that. :-))
On Mar 15, 2011, at 6:00 AM, Ross Peoples wrote:
> I just noticed that the sessions are still being saved, which may be why I
> didn't see any performance improvement. I deleted all of the sessions inside
> the sessions folder, stopped and restarted the server, then visited the
> /default/index
Feature-wise, web2py is pretty complete. I think the next milestones
of web2py should be on performance and scalability; (web2py is
reaching 2.0 sooner or later, right?)
I would like to see stronger built-in support for smart caching and
load balancing (distributing work across different servers)
I answered your email. Briefly (on Linux/Unix):
+ Use "crontab -l" to see your cron entries.
+ Use "crontab -e" to create/edit cron entries.
+ Google / wikipedia for cron syntax. To execute a URL (e.g. web2py
controller, you can either use wget or curl).
On Mar 15, 8:05 am, Tito Garrido
Ok, that makes sense. My app connects to a MSSQL database on another
machine, so that explains the response times > 100 ms for me. So would
setting pool_size to 1 on the DAL keep at least one database connection open
for future page views and speed things up?
changing my +1 - now liking "Productivity by design"!
On 15 March 2011 15:39, Bruno Rocha wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 12:35 PM, Jonathan Lundell wrote:
>
>> On Mar 15, 2011, at 8:12 AM, Kevin Ivarsen wrote:
>> >
>> > So far I like "Productivity by design".
>>
>> I do too. It speaks to web2p
On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 12:35 PM, Jonathan Lundell wrote:
> On Mar 15, 2011, at 8:12 AM, Kevin Ivarsen wrote:
> >
> > So far I like "Productivity by design".
>
> I do too. It speaks to web2py's strongest point.
>
> I'm not happy with 'enterprise' because to me it reeks of Enterprise Java
> ("Java
On Mar 15, 2011, at 8:12 AM, Kevin Ivarsen wrote:
>
> So far I like "Productivity by design".
I do too. It speaks to web2py's strongest point.
I'm not happy with 'enterprise' because to me it reeks of Enterprise Java
("Java is the new COBOL").
I'd be happier with 'scales' if we had deployed, l
Thanks Massimo,
Nothing is actually wrong with Val, it's a float obtained from a row.
After a fair bit of ploughing, I found that the issue is to do with
the list of [OPTION...] for the SELECT control.
If you generate a list of [,] from a function like I did,
and reuse that list in multiple SE
Hi All,
I have "two kind of users" in my application: admins and users. Each
of them has different index function which I've decored, that's why I
get these URLs when trying to login:
* admins login through
http://127.0.0.1:8000/myapp/default/user/login?_next=/myapp/admin/index
* common users log
So far I like "Productivity by design".
Although it depends on what the goals of a tagline should be. If you
want to make the framework discoverable through search engines, it
might be more important to include words like python / mvc / web
framework. The web2py name by itself has the strength of
Hello to all, I have created a new project using the web wizard, for
some unknown reason the mysql connection is not working, this is the
uri im using:
mysql://cmts_monitor:cmtsTigoHome@localhost/cmts_monitor
and this is the error i got:
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/home/www-data/
Dear Jose,
I think you posted a very interesting example... how have you resolved
the problem of the spatial support by web2py?
I mean the fields of the tables you are going to create dynamically are
the ones of a tipically spatial extension of a db... are they supported
by web2py DAL? Can you
How about?
"rapid web development that scales"
I think we should use "rapid development" vs "agile" since the latter
sometimes has a negative connotation.
Massimo
On Mar 15, 9:36 am, Tom Atkins wrote:
> On 15 March 2011 13:43, Bruno Rocha wrote:
>
> > web2py - Code Less Create More!
>
> +1
Thats a new tagline proposal!
*web2py - thing beautiful of God! *
LOL
On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 11:29 AM, Anthony wrote:
> http://twitter.com/#!/dmaffioletti/status/47658179693252609
>
>
The speedup mentioned applies to do-nothing apps. In particular to
apps that do not use database.
The welcome app does lots of stuff even if you do not use. To start
with it opens the sqlite database. Although queries are fast it takes
just 30ms to open the db and lock it in my tests.
Anyway, you
On 15 March 2011 13:43, Bruno Rocha wrote:
> web2py - Code Less Create More!
>
+1 (and then mention 'full-stack python web framework...')
http://twitter.com/#!/dmaffioletti/status/47658179693252609
>
> web2py - Code Less Create More!
+1
_
*Gilson Filho*
*Web Developer
http://gilsondev.com*
We (again) looked deeper into what is really happening; and it is yet
different.
What we ran into is the following:
We tried to set a session_id our self based on information in the url,
which in this case resulted in calling the session connect code (where
it went wrong) twice per request.
In ca
web2py - Code Less Create More!
--
Bruno Rocha
[ About me: http://zerp.ly/rochacbruno ]
On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 8:04 AM, villas wrote:
> The web2py tagline is currently: 'Enterprise Web Framework'.
>
> Massimo agrees that this might be improved and this thread is to
> solicit suggestions. Ide
well, then i'll wait. :)
On Mar 15, 2:25 pm, Massimo Di Pierro
wrote:
> I have the code example so I will post it. I just need to add voice.
>
> On Mar 15, 3:03 am, Mengu wrote:
>
> > now that's sad massimo. i was extremely anxious to see how you built
> > the facebook clone and how people were
No form, I have customized the layout.html file, but nothing that uses
session or forms.
Here is the controller:
def index():
"""
example action using the internationalization operator T and flash
rendered by views/default/index.html or views/generic.html
"""
response.flash =
I will think a new one. Some words or ideas perhaps to include: "python",
"MVC", "Full-stack", "Framework", "True MVC", "RAD", "Fast development",
"Less development more creation", "Easy to learn".
2011/3/15 Mengu
> what about generating such taglines and displaying them randomly?
>
> On Mar 15,
what about generating such taglines and displaying them randomly?
On Mar 15, 2:54 pm, "Jason (spot) Brower" wrote:
> Hmm..
> "Twice as fast to code in than Django and four time easier."
> Ok ok, it sucks, but it's true!
> Let me think... how about:
> Productivity by design.
> Think about the page
You must find the logic in your code that is changing the session
object. There must be something. Do you have a form in the page?
On Mar 15, 8:00 am, Ross Peoples wrote:
> I just noticed that the sessions are still being saved, which may be why I
> didn't see any performance improvement. I delet
instead of "the framework that gets things done" i suggest "get your
app done"
On Mar 15, 1:04 pm, villas wrote:
> The web2py tagline is currently: 'Enterprise Web Framework'.
>
> Massimo agrees that this might be improved and this thread is to
> solicit suggestions. Ideally suggestions would en
Hi VP!
How did you use the system cron? I'm wondering how can I specify the
function that I want to execute...
Regards,
Tito
On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 1:53 AM, VP wrote:
> Cron didn't work for me either, so I used the system cron.
>
> One question I have though is why "root" when web2py is run
Since most orders contain line items, you might consider making an
order_header table that stores information about the order, then a
order_detail table that stores the information about each line item.
I just noticed that the sessions are still being saved, which may be why I
didn't see any performance improvement. I deleted all of the sessions inside
the sessions folder, stopped and restarted the server, then visited the
/default/index page that flashes 'You are successfully running web2py.'
I don't do that. I would rather have orders than t_order how about
the_order :P
BR,
Jason
On Thu, Mar 10, 2011 at 6:13 PM, pbreit wrote:
> Yeah I saw that. What are people's thoughts on that? It seems like clutter
> to me but can definitely mak things easier in places.
Hmm..
"Twice as fast to code in than Django and four time easier."
Ok ok, it sucks, but it's true!
Let me think... how about:
Productivity by design.
Think about the page not the code!
Releiving finger ache by a factor of 2.
Bringing python and html together.
Framework for productive web applicaton
I did some testing on my app, which still implements the welcome app's
default/index function that shows Hello World. Here are my results:
BEFORE TRUNK UPDATE - CONCURRENCY 1
===
Time taken for tests: 108 seconds
Requests per second: 9.25
Time per request: 108.138
I have the code example so I will post it. I just need to add voice.
On Mar 15, 3:03 am, Mengu wrote:
> now that's sad massimo. i was extremely anxious to see how you built
> the facebook clone and how people were impressed.
>
> On Mar 14, 9:21 pm, Massimo Di Pierro
> wrote:
>
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>
>
> > Th
Hi Massimo Di Pierro,
How do get "requires", "defaut", "represent",... from field:
db.mytable.myfield for create string:
"Field('myfield', requires=..., default=..., represent=...)" ?
Thanks.
The web2py tagline is currently: 'Enterprise Web Framework'.
Massimo agrees that this might be improved and this thread is to
solicit suggestions. Ideally suggestions would encapsulate the
'spirit' of web2py or stress a feature(s) and simply make it seem more
attractive to new users.
As an idea,
now that's sad massimo. i was extremely anxious to see how you built
the facebook clone and how people were impressed.
On Mar 14, 9:21 pm, Massimo Di Pierro
wrote:
> The second part was not recorded because I forgot to press the button
> [record] after the break and because the people who paid to
Just looking at CubicWeb via the link given on Reddit. Looks like an
interesting project - amazing what's out there that I've never heard of!
This blog post:
http://www.cubicweb.org/blogentry/1484253
describes an interesting way of using multi core processors to load balance
and solves session
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