I do not think the tagline should be a question.

On Mar 15, 1:44 pm, mart <msenecal...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Just throwing in my 2 cents worth,
>
> Personally, I kind of like the that it says Enterprise, but as
> mentioned here, depends on who's reading it. This is my first try in
> world if open source so the experience may speak to me differently
> than let's say the younger crowed who may be growing up with it. So my
> take on it as well as the enthousiasme I may have for it is in fact
> telling of previous experiences. When I have to get up in front of
> folks (usually at a much higher pay grade ;) ) and talk about where I
> want to take my projects and how I want to handle the releases of
> their software, I tend to speak about "what's exciting about web2py"
> and much less about "how it will help us be more productive".
> Somethings tend to be the same (at least that how I see it), I never
> would have sold the idea or even have gotten as far  with convincing
> my current employer to dump  and trash all current processes and
> associated resources & tools without  showing conviction and
> excitement. I sold them on this because i relied on what I liked about
> web2py and what could inspire me, which is something I never would
> have been able to to do any other way.
>
> Personally, i find I care a lot less abut being productive and MUCH
> more about being excited about being productive. I like web2py, and I
> like python, I like that i can start something and quickly see things
> happen and I really like that I can take time to think about changing
> things around, scaling other things upwards, etc, and I can do this
> because web2py has a community where one can login post a question and
> get quick answers (as well as good exchanges that make me think).
>
> Given the choice, that's what I would rely on to tag web2py... i would
> choose something that sounds exciting, has community and something
> that inspires... (all the great technical details are without a doubt
> impressive and great, but that would put me in "shopping mode" as
> opposed relying on impression. so I would ask a question instead...
>
> "what inspires you?"
>
> Who wouldn't look twice at a t-shirt with a big red tree on it that
> aks a question like that?
>
> anyways,
>
> That's it,
> Mart :)
>
> On Mar 15, 12:56 pm, Anthony <abasta...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > I haven't come up with any great tagline ideas of my own yet, but as we
> > generate ideas, it might be useful to first think about some of the
> > distinctive attributes and goals of web2py and its community. Here are some
> > things I think about when I think of web2py:
>
> >    - Easy (to set up, learn, use, distribute, and deploy)
> >    - Rapid development, productive, efficient, compact, concise
> >    - Feature-packed, comprehensive
> >    - Secure
> >    - Stable (backwards compatible)
> >    - User-focused
> >    - Innovative
> >    - Well integrated
> >    - Actively developed, constantly improving, frequent releases, fast bug
> >    fixes, responsive to user needs
> >    - Friendly, open, welcoming, helpful, supportive
> >    - Professional, mature, serious
> >    - It's for everyone, from beginner (wizard, plugin_wiki) to expert
>
> > The book preface also provides some good 
> > inspiration:http://www.web2py.com/book/default/chapter/00
>
> > We should also be mindful of different potential audiences we may want to
> > target, which may include small or solo web dev companies; internal web
> > developers within larger organizations; web-based businesses; non-Python
> > professional developers (e.g., coming from PHP, Java); beginners who are new
> > to web dev and/or Python; entrepreneurs; managers within organizations or
> > external clients who have to approve the use of the framework; instructors
> > who are teaching web dev; etc. Different types of users will care more about
> > different sets of attributes.
>
> > I think one challenge that web2py has in terms of communication is that it
> > is appealing both to beginners and to professionals/experts. The problem is,
> > when you advertise how easy and simple something is for beginners, experts
> > might assume it is going to be too basic or constraining to meet their
> > needs. On the other hand, if you advertise how powerful, flexible, and
> > productive something is for experts, beginners might assume it will be too
> > difficult and overwhelming for them. web2py has managed a great feat by
> > being very easy but also very comprehensive, powerful, and flexible. It's
> > got something for everyone.
>
> > Anyway, those are just some things to think about. So far, I think my
> > favorite proposal has been:
>
> >    - "Productivity by Design"
>
> > Here are some other options:
>
> >    - "web2py - The Web framework for Django users with deadlines."
> >    - "web2py - Why are you reading this tagline? You could have built a web
> >    app by now!"
>
> > Finally, although the term "enterprise" is sometimes misunderstood and even
> > mocked, it clearly appeals to some potential users because it suggests that
> > the framework is serious, stable, secure, professional, well-supported, etc.
> > So, even if we're dropping "enterprise" from the tagline, I think we should
> > still strive to communicate that aspect of the framework and community.
>
> > Best,
> > Anthony

Reply via email to