Re: [SAtalk] Why won't SA see my user_prefs?

2004-01-21 Thread Matt Kettler
At 02:00 PM 1/21/2004, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The spam I was trying to catch doesn't seem to be going through the rules I added. What else do I have to do? I'd start off with a run of spamassassin --lint to make sure you don't have a typo. After that, if it still doesn't work check the debug ou

[SAtalk] Why won't SA see my user_prefs?

2004-01-21 Thread alayne
I'm running SpamAssassin using spamd, and invoking on my own system through an entry in procmailrc. SpamAssassin runs fine and does indeed properly filter out a lot of spam. Yesterday, I added a number of rules to $HOME/.spamassassin/user_prefs. I ran /home/alayne/sausr/bin/spamassassin -D < /tmp

Re: [SAtalk] Why SPAM looks the way it does O/T

2004-01-13 Thread Evan Platt
-Original Message- From: "Gerry Doris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 12:14:26 -0500 (EST) Subject: [SAtalk] Why SPAM looks the way it does O/T > All this time I thought that there were evil minds at work finding ways > to > ge

[SAtalk] Why SPAM looks the way it does O/T

2004-01-13 Thread Gerry Doris
All this time I thought that there were evil minds at work finding ways to generate bayes busting spam... warning...this is politically uncorrect! http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/28/34840.html --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Perfor

Re: [SAtalk] why did this not get tagged with date in future?

2003-12-22 Thread Matt Kettler
At 01:51 PM 12/22/2003, mairhtin wrote: Can anyone tell me why this did not get tagged? It clearly states that the date is thursday jan 01. Does the date header not get checked? Mairhtin I believe that SA does not look for a date in the future relative to the current local system time, it lo

[SAtalk] why did this not get tagged with date in future?

2003-12-22 Thread mairhtin
Can anyone tell me why this did not get tagged? It clearly states that the date is thursday jan 01. Does the date header not get checked? Mairhtin Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Received: from adsl-64-108-195-217.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.net (adsl-64-108-195-217.dsl.chcgil.ameritech.n

[SAtalk] why are these messages getting low scores?

2003-12-20 Thread Ricardo Kleemann
Hi, I've attached 3 messages that are getting quite low scores by SA. I'm running SA 2.60, with bayes. I frequently get messages quite similar to these, a number of them every single day. And every day I run them through sa-learn. However they continue to get low scores. Are spammers learning n

[SAtalk] Why isn't this being learnt?

2003-12-13 Thread Robert Nicholson
So I'm executing my $status = $spamtest->learn ($mail); and the status in the debugger shows all the right things suggesting it's been learnt however the nham count in sa-learn --dump isn't changed. --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: I

[SAtalk] Why no razor_add_header?

2003-12-10 Thread Adam Foxson
Out of curiosity, is there a reason why SpamAssassin omits a configuration option for razor_add_header when dcc_add_header and pyzor_add_header exist? Thanks in advance. -- Adam J. Foxson --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: IBM Linux Tuto

[SAtalk] Why didnt't he obfuscation rules hit on this message?

2003-12-07 Thread Rubin Bennett
Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: "Timprice" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Sat, 06 Dec 2003 21:50:06 -0100 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --> 78% D.1.SC0.UNT!! xvjtk crbqap MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Type: text/ht

Re: [SAtalk] Why didn't this autolearn?

2003-12-05 Thread Matt Kettler
At 12:39 PM 12/5/2003, Chris Barnes wrote: My autolearn threshhold is the default (what is that 15?). Other accounts do autolearn, but I'm not sure why this one didn't. Ideas? Here is the report: X-Spam-Status: Yes, hits=54.7 1) the autolearning score of this email isn't 54.7, and it's not 54.7 -

[SAtalk] Why didn't this autolearn?

2003-12-05 Thread Chris Barnes
My autolearn threshhold is the default (what is that 15?). Other accounts do autolearn, but I'm not sure why this one didn't. Ideas? Here is the report: X-Spam-Status: Yes, hits=54.7 required=5.0 tests=BAD_CREDIT,BAYES_99, BigEvilList_48,CLICK_BELOW_CAPS,DATE_IN_FUTURE_03_06, DATE_SPAMWARE_Y2

Re: [SAtalk] Why four scores?

2003-11-25 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Tue, Nov 25, 2003 at 06:32:12PM -0800, John Oliver wrote: > Googling around led me to a couple of sites that said the man page > explains the four scores, but I can't find anything. Before I start > changing scores, I'd like to understand exactly what each one is for. It's in the docs under th

[SAtalk] Why four scores?

2003-11-25 Thread John Oliver
Googling around led me to a couple of sites that said the man page explains the four scores, but I can't find anything. Before I start changing scores, I'd like to understand exactly what each one is for. Also, is the correct way to change them to copy the lines I want to change to /etc/mail/spam

RE: [SAtalk] Why Bayes is so essential

2003-11-24 Thread Chris Santerre
> -Original Message- > From: Dan Kohn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 2:35 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [SAtalk] Why Bayes is so essential > > > Here is a spam that should convince people to turn on Bayes. This &g

Re: [SAtalk] Why Bayes is so essential

2003-11-24 Thread Michael Parker
On Mon, Nov 24, 2003 at 11:14:40AM -0600, Stewart, John wrote: > > > Some time ago, there was an announcement of patches to SA to allow for > > SQL-stored Bayes databases. > > > > I haven't seen word of this being integrated in to the main > > tree since then, > > but it's possible I've missed i

RE: [SAtalk] Why Bayes is so essential

2003-11-24 Thread Stewart, John
> Some time ago, there was an announcement of patches to SA to allow for > SQL-stored Bayes databases. > > I haven't seen word of this being integrated in to the main > tree since then, > but it's possible I've missed it. Hmm... I don't recall seeing this at all; does anyone have any info on t

Re: [SAtalk] Why Bayes is so essential

2003-11-23 Thread Damian Gerow
Thus spake Dan Kohn ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [20/11/03 14:35]: > Here is a spam that should convince people to turn on Bayes. This > Nigerian spam was almost certainly continually resent against > SpamAssassin 2.60. Each time, the words were altered slightly until > none of the rules fired. However,

[SAtalk] Why Bayes is so essential

2003-11-20 Thread Dan Kohn
Here is a spam that should convince people to turn on Bayes. This Nigerian spam was almost certainly continually resent against SpamAssassin 2.60. Each time, the words were altered slightly until none of the rules fired. However, SpamAssassin with untrained Bayes turned on can still catch the sp

Re: [SAtalk] why won't changing the display language work ???

2003-11-19 Thread Samuel Murez
Justin Mason wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > > "Samuel Murez" writes: >> Matt Kettler wrote: >>> At 01:12 AM 11/18/03 +0100, Samuel Murez wrote: Hello-- Could somebody please take just a minute to tell me how to do this ? It seems very

Re: [SAtalk] why won't changing the display language work ???

2003-11-18 Thread Justin Mason
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 "Samuel Murez" writes: >Matt Kettler wrote: >> At 01:12 AM 11/18/03 +0100, Samuel Murez wrote: >>> Hello-- >>> >>> Could somebody please take just a minute to tell me how to do this ? >>> >>> It seems very simple but I've tried many solutions and noth

Re: [SAtalk] why won't changing the display language work ???

2003-11-18 Thread Jack Coates
On Tue, 2003-11-18 at 13:55, Samuel Murez wrote: ... > > Thanks for anwering ! I was really puzzled by this. So there's no way to get > french messages for one user and english for all other users ? > > --sam ... Are you calling SA from .procmailrc? Try setting LANG=fr there. -- Jack Coates, Ly

Re: [SAtalk] why won't changing the display language work ???

2003-11-18 Thread Samuel Murez
Matt Kettler wrote: > At 01:12 AM 11/18/03 +0100, Samuel Murez wrote: >> Hello-- >> >> Could somebody please take just a minute to tell me how to do this ? >> >> It seems very simple but I've tried many solutions and nothing's >> working ! >> >> I would like one of my users to receive spamassassin

Re: [SAtalk] why won't changing the display language work ???

2003-11-18 Thread Matt Kettler
At 01:12 AM 11/18/03 +0100, Samuel Murez wrote: Hello-- Could somebody please take just a minute to tell me how to do this ? It seems very simple but I've tried many solutions and nothing's working ! I would like one of my users to receive spamassassin template messages in french, while the rest

[SAtalk] why won't changing the display language work ???

2003-11-17 Thread Samuel Murez
Hello-- Could somebody please take just a minute to tell me how to do this ? It seems very simple but I've tried many solutions and nothing's working ! I would like one of my users to receive spamassassin template messages in french, while the rest continue receiving them in english. I know the

[SAtalk] Why does razor2 work with spamassassin -D but not through procmail?

2003-10-26 Thread Dan Kohn
I'm running spamassassin in my home directory (~/bin) and have compiled razor, dccproc, and pyzor, which all work fine when tested with SpamAssassin -D. However, while dccproc and pyzor are regularly triggered on spam run through procmail, razor never is. Specifically, when I run 'spamassassin -D

RE: [SAtalk] Why does razor2 work with spamassassin -D but not through procmail?

2003-10-26 Thread Dan Kohn
<http://www.dankohn.com/> -Original Message- From: Dan Kohn Sent: Sunday, October 26, 2003 08:07 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SAtalk] Why does razor2 work with spamassassin -D but not through procmail? I'm running spamassassin in my home directory (~/bin) and have compiled ra

Re: [SAtalk] Why does razor2 work with spamassassin -D but not through procmail?

2003-10-26 Thread Bart Schaefer
On Sun, 26 Oct 2003, Dan Kohn wrote: > debug: executable for dccproc was found at /home/dankohn/bin/dccproc > > Could someone please tell me why razor triggers in the former but not > the latter? You're sure the PATH contains $HOME/bin when procmail is invoked by sendmail? --

RE: [SAtalk] Why SpamAssassin STOP FILTERING SPAM !!! HELP !!!

2003-10-08 Thread Tom Meunier
> -Original Message- > From: O-Zone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Wednesday 08 October 2003 13:40, Tom Meunier wrote: > > (I must be annoying SOMEBODY) Hi Oz, Which > > machine(s) have spamassassin? I know domini does, but does > siena also > > have spamassassin? That would cause

Re: [SAtalk] Why SpamAssassin STOP FILTERING SPAM !!! HELP !!!

2003-10-08 Thread O-Zone
On Wednesday 08 October 2003 13:40, Tom Meunier wrote: > (I must be annoying SOMEBODY) > Hi Oz, > Which machine(s) have spamassassin? I know domini does, but does siena > also have spamassassin? That would cause this behavior. Yes, also Siena have Spamassassin ! It's wrong ? Why ? :O Thanks a

RE: [SAtalk] Why SpamAssassin STOP FILTERING SPAM !!! HELP !!!

2003-10-08 Thread Tom Meunier
(I must be annoying SOMEBODY) Hi Oz, Which machine(s) have spamassassin? I know domini does, but does siena also have spamassassin? That would cause this behavior. -tom - headers - On Wednesday 08 October 2003 13:25, you wrote: > It's difficult to see because you're not incl

RE: [SAtalk] Why SpamAssassin STOP FILTERING SPAM !!! HELP !!!

2003-10-08 Thread Tom Meunier
including full headers. -tom > -Original Message- > From: O-Zone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2003 9:39 AM > To: David B Funk > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [SAtalk] Why SpamAssassin STOP FILTERING SPAM !!! HELP > !!! > > debug: running m

Re: [SAtalk] Why SpamAssassin STOP FILTERING SPAM !!! HELP !!!

2003-10-08 Thread O-Zone
On Wednesday 08 October 2003 03:33, David B Funk wrote: > spamassassin -D --lint > > If that looks OK, try feeding the test-spam message to spamassassin > (again as your 'spamfilter' user and with -D ). See with your eyes what i get: debug: Score set 0 chosen. debug: running in taint mode? yes

Re: [SAtalk] Why SpamAssassin STOP FILTERING SPAM !!! HELP !!!

2003-10-07 Thread David B Funk
On Tue, 7 Oct 2003, O-Zone wrote: > Hi all, > here's my problem, AGAIN ! I've checked perms into /usr/share/spamassassin and > are all owned by spamfilter user. This is my startup command: > > /usr/bin/spamd -a -C /etc/mail/spamassassin/ -d -u spamfilter -m 10 It may still be a permissions proble

Re: [SAtalk] Why SpamAssassin STOP FILTERING SPAM !!! HELP !!!

2003-10-07 Thread Matthias Fuhrmann
On Tue, 7 Oct 2003, O-Zone wrote: > Hi all, > here's my problem, AGAIN ! I've checked perms into /usr/share/spamassassin and > are all owned by spamfilter user. This is my startup command: > > /usr/bin/spamd -a -C /etc/mail/spamassassin/ -d -u spamfilter -m 10 > > and this is an header of a SPAM m

Re: [SAtalk] Why SpamAssassin STOP FILTERING SPAM !!! HELP !!!

2003-10-07 Thread Matt Kettler
At 04:06 PM 10/7/03 +, O-Zone wrote: Hi all, here's my problem, AGAIN ! First, run spamassassin --lint If there are any complaints about your configuration files, fix them. Minor typos can cause bad side effects. If that doesn't help.. try running a message through SA with the debug output

[SAtalk] Why SpamAssassin STOP FILTERING SPAM !!! HELP !!!

2003-10-07 Thread O-Zone
Hi all, here's my problem, AGAIN ! I've checked perms into /usr/share/spamassassin and are all owned by spamfilter user. This is my startup command: /usr/bin/spamd -a -C /etc/mail/spamassassin/ -d -u spamfilter -m 10 and this is an header of a SPAM mail NOT filtered: ===

RE: [SAtalk] why is this learned as ham?

2003-10-02 Thread Martin, Jeffrey
AM To: Martin, Jeffrey Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SAtalk] why is this learned as ham? On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 09:35:44AM -0400, Martin, Jeffrey wrote: > But the example scored 0.4, so it still shouldn't be autolearned, > right? run with -D and read the Mail::SpamAssassin::Conf d

Re: [SAtalk] why is this learned as ham?

2003-10-02 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 09:21:10AM -0400, Martin, Jeffrey wrote: > I just upgraded a test system to 2.6, and it is doing something strange. > The header indicates that messages are being autolearned that shouldn't > be. The auto_learn settings in /usr/share/spamassassin are: > > 10_misc.cf:auto_le

Re: [SAtalk] why is this learned as ham?

2003-10-02 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 09:35:44AM -0400, Martin, Jeffrey wrote: > But the example scored 0.4, so it still shouldn't be autolearned, right? run with -D and read the Mail::SpamAssassin::Conf doc, specifically the section about bayes_auto_learn. -- Randomly Generated Tagline: "I develop for Linux

RE: [SAtalk] why is this learned as ham?

2003-10-02 Thread Martin, Jeffrey
Oops, I was on the wrong system. The real settings on this one are; 10_misc.cf:# learning system automatically, to train the Bayesian scanner. 10_misc.cf:bayes_auto_learn_threshold_nonspam 0.1 10_misc.cf:bayes_auto_learn_threshold_spam 12.0 10_misc.cf:# Set this to 0 to turn off aut

[SAtalk] why is this learned as ham?

2003-10-02 Thread Martin, Jeffrey
I just upgraded a test system to 2.6, and it is doing something strange. The header indicates that messages are being autolearned that shouldn't be. The auto_learn settings in /usr/share/spamassassin are: 10_misc.cf:auto_learn_threshold_nonspam -2 10_misc.cf:auto_learn_threshold_spam15 This i

Re: [SAtalk] Why is P***** Enlarge score so low

2003-09-30 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Tue, Sep 30, 2003 at 08:40:03AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Why is this test scored so low in the first place ? http://spamassassin.taint.org/faq/index.cgi?req=show&file=faq01.005.htp -- Randomly Generated Tagline: "The greatest of all faults is to be conscious of none." - Thomas Carlyl

[SAtalk] Why is P***** Enlarge score so low

2003-09-30 Thread bob
As a newbie to spamassassin I was surprised to see emails offering to enlarge my private parts, passing the filter with low scores. I noticed that P***_Enlarge only scores 2.8 I have altered my user_pref file to now score this test at 20 Why is this test scored so low in the first place ? -

Re: [SAtalk] Why is this microsoft_executable not detected?

2003-09-26 Thread Matt Kettler
At 03:18 PM 9/26/03 -0700, Ron Snyder wrote: I'm running SA 2.60-rc1, and have noticed that spamassassin is not catching microsoft executable attachments when they arrive as an enclosed bounce message. Shouldn't SA be detecting the microsoft_executable stuff since the test is done on rawbody? The t

[SAtalk] Why is this microsoft_executable not detected?

2003-09-26 Thread Ron Snyder
I'm running SA 2.60-rc1, and have noticed that spamassassin is not catching microsoft executable attachments when they arrive as an enclosed bounce message. Shouldn't SA be detecting the microsoft_executable stuff since the test is done on rawbody? Here's the SA headers- >From the sendmail qf* fil

RE: FW: Re[2]: [SAtalk] why is sa not catching the microsoft emails ?

2003-09-25 Thread John Schneider
To: John Schneider; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: FW: Re[2]: [SAtalk] why is sa not catching the microsoft emails ? Hello John, JS> Abigail, JS> If a user puts this recipe into their .procmail file, JS> where would the log entries be collected. (Sorry, but JS> I'm a procma

RE: [SAtalk] why is sa not catching the microsoft emails ?

2003-09-25 Thread Matt Cramer
On Wed, 24 Sep 2003, BG Mahesh wrote: > Not sure if the rules we have added in local.cf are wrong. We are using SA+procmail > > header LATEST_NET_SPAM Subject =~/^Latest Net Critical Upgrade/i > describe LATEST_NET_SPAM Bounce - "Spam from Microsoft" > scoreLATEST_NET_SPAM 10.0 > > Even if t

Re: FW: Re[2]: [SAtalk] why is sa not catching the microsoft emails ?

2003-09-25 Thread Abigail Marshall
Original Message- JS> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] JS> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Abigail JS> Marshall JS> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 5:10 PM JS> To: Stephen Reese; [EMAIL PROTECTED] JS> Subject: Re[2]: [SAtalk] why is sa not catching the microsoft emails ? JS&g

Re: [SAtalk] why is sa not catching the microsoft emails ?

2003-09-24 Thread Dale Harris
On Wed, Sep 24, 2003 at 05:27:57PM -0400, Stephen Reese elucidated: > how do I turn up the MICROSOFT_EXECUTABLE? > check out your .spamassassin/user_prefs file, it has directions in there. But it is basically like: score MICROSOFT_EXECUTABLE 6.0 or some such. Dale -

RE: [SAtalk] why is sa not catching the microsoft emails ?

2003-09-24 Thread Stephen Reese
how do I turn up the MICROSOFT_EXECUTABLE? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Scott Comboni Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 9:07 AM To: Dale Harris Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SAtalk] why is sa not catching the microsoft emails

RE: [SAtalk] why is sa not catching the microsoft emails ?

2003-09-24 Thread Larry Gilson
> -Original Message- > From: BG Mahesh [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 1:37 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [SAtalk] why is sa not catching the microsoft emails ? > > > > Well they were being passed straight to the

RE: [SAtalk] why is sa not catching the microsoft emails ?

2003-09-24 Thread BG Mahesh
> Well they were being passed straight to the user since the courier > mailfilter file was picking them out due to the size being > than 24kb > so there was no chance for SA to parse them. > hi Not sure if the rules we have added in local.cf are wrong. We are using SA+procmail header LATEST_N

Re: [SAtalk] why is sa not catching the microsoft emails ?

2003-09-24 Thread Scott Comboni
This has seemed to work for me as well. Like you pointed out the ones that have no .exe still manage to get in. Scott On Tue, 2003-09-23 at 20:46, Dale Harris wrote: > On Wed, Sep 24, 2003 at 11:37:27AM +1200, Simon Byrnand elucidated: > > > > Although I havn't tried it, I would say that teac

RE: [SAtalk] why is sa not catching the microsoft emails ?

2003-09-24 Thread Stephen Reese
ent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 9:41 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SAtalk] why is sa not catching the microsoft emails ? Simon Byrnand wrote: >>I've been getting tons of this mail usually with virus's attached. I >>am also getting messages that seem to orginate from o

Re: [SAtalk] Why is auto-learn set to no?

2003-09-24 Thread Martin Radford
At Tue Sep 23 21:45:13 2003, Renato G. Troitino wrote: > > Just curious... when a message get enought points to be a spam, it should be > set autolearn=yes right? So why all the messages gets autolearn=no even > getting 15 hits??? Learning spam as ham (or ham as spam) is really bad. If you sta

RE: Re[2]: [SAtalk] why is sa not catching the microsoft emails ?

2003-09-23 Thread Stephen Reese
Reese Subject: Re: Re[2]: [SAtalk] why is sa not catching the microsoft emails ? This could also be 2.55 issue where messages with multiple MIME parts was not completly scanned? For example, the thread about pic.gif where that spammer used some trick with multiple mime parts and that caused the messa

Re: Re[2]: [SAtalk] why is sa not catching the microsoft emails ?

2003-09-23 Thread Fred
This could also be 2.55 issue where messages with multiple MIME parts was not completly scanned? For example, the thread about pic.gif where that spammer used some trick with multiple mime parts and that caused the message to be invisible. The good news is this is fixed in 2.60 and that's a final

Re: [SAtalk] Why is auto-learn set to no?

2003-09-23 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 05:45:13PM -0300, Renato G. Troitino wrote: > Just curious... when a message get enought points to be a spam, it should be > set autolearn=yes right? So why all the messages gets autolearn=no even > getting 15 hits??? I wish people would rtfm: Also note that a

Re[2]: [SAtalk] why is sa not catching the microsoft emails ?

2003-09-23 Thread Abigail Marshall
Hello Stephen, Tuesday, September 23, 2003, 3:09:51 PM, you wrote: SR> h, i still don't understand why SA is not even looking at them SR> though see's everything else? Because the 150K attachment that comes with Swen is either too big to be sent to SA (depending on how you have configured

Re: [SAtalk] Why is auto-learn set to no?

2003-09-23 Thread Renato G. Troitino
Just curious... when a message get enought points to be a spam, it should be set autolearn=yes right? So why all the messages gets autolearn=no even getting 15 hits??? Sds; Troitino > Interesting point. Perhaps instead of "autolearn=", it should read: > > autolearnt=ham/spam/no > or >

Re: [SAtalk] why is sa not catching the microsoft emails ?

2003-09-23 Thread Daniel Bird
Simon Byrnand wrote: I've been getting tons of this mail usually with virus's attached. I am also getting messages that seem to orginate from our own server but they don't. The reason SpamAssassin doesn't catch them is twofold: Maybe I'm misinterpreting the original question, but was it no

Re[2]: [SAtalk] why is sa not catching the microsoft emails ?

2003-09-23 Thread Robert Menschel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Simon, Tuesday, September 23, 2003, 4:37:27 PM, you wrote: SB> Although I havn't tried it, I would say that teaching the message to BAYES SB> using sa-learn in 2.60 should be very effective, as BAYES_99 in 2.60 has a SB> high enough score to ta

Re: [SAtalk] why is sa not catching the microsoft emails ?

2003-09-23 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Wed, Sep 24, 2003 at 02:40:49AM +0100, Daniel Bird wrote: > Maybe I'm misinterpreting the original question, but was it not the fact > that it appeared SA was not even scanning the mail? could be, I was just reading the subject which implies "why does SA not mark these mails as spam?" -- Ran

Re: [SAtalk] why is sa not catching the microsoft emails ?

2003-09-23 Thread Dale Harris
On Wed, Sep 24, 2003 at 11:37:27AM +1200, Simon Byrnand elucidated: > > Although I havn't tried it, I would say that teaching the message to BAYES > using sa-learn in 2.60 should be very effective, as BAYES_99 in 2.60 has a > high enough score to tag as spam without any other tests... > That an

RE: [SAtalk] why is sa not catching the microsoft emails ?

2003-09-23 Thread Stephen Reese
half Of Ryan Moore Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 7:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SAtalk] why is sa not catching the microsoft emails ? Is there a size limit that SA implements to avoid scanning huge messages whose content is primarily binary? I know amavisd has a limit such as th

Re: [SAtalk] why is sa not catching the microsoft emails ?

2003-09-23 Thread Kris Deugau
Stephen Reese wrote: > h, i still don't understand why SA is not even looking at them > though see's everything else? In a nutshell, because virus messages don't look much like spam. Virus messages are usually sent via a legitimate ISP's mail server. They have (usually) valid return addresse

Re: [SAtalk] why is sa not catching the microsoft emails ?

2003-09-23 Thread Simon Byrnand
> I've been getting tons of this mail usually with virus's attached. I am > also getting messages that seem to orginate from our own server but they > don't. The reason SpamAssassin doesn't catch them is twofold: 1) It's a virus, not spam. 2) It's only just come out, after the ruleset for 2.60 wa

Re: [SAtalk] why is sa not catching the microsoft emails ?

2003-09-23 Thread Ryan Moore
ED] Subject: RE: [SAtalk] why is sa not catching the microsoft emails ? I am getting nailed with these as well, 72 for the day so far. Other admins I talked here have had over 100 so far on the day. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Stephen Reese

Re: [SAtalk] why is sa not catching the microsoft emails ?

2003-09-23 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Tue, Sep 23, 2003 at 06:09:51PM -0400, Stephen Reese wrote: > h, i still don't understand why SA is not even looking at them > though see's everything else? Worms are not spam by definition. (the "people" sending the worms when you get it don't intend to send it to you, therefore it's not

RE: [SAtalk] why is sa not catching the microsoft emails ?

2003-09-23 Thread Stephen Reese
h, i still don't understand why SA is not even looking at them though see's everything else? -Original Message- From: Daniel Kaliel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2003 5:59 PM To: Stephen Reese; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [SAtalk] why is sa no

RE: [SAtalk] why is sa not catching the microsoft emails ?

2003-09-23 Thread Daniel Kaliel
: [SAtalk] why is sa not catching the microsoft emails ? I've been getting tons of this mail usually with virus's attached. I am also getting messages that seem to orginate from our own server but they don't. I am running sa 2.6, redhat 7.3, courier 0.43.0 The following is a header

[SAtalk] why is sa not catching the microsoft emails ?

2003-09-23 Thread Stephen Reese
I've been getting tons of this mail usually with virus's attached. I am also getting messages that seem to orginate from our own server but they don't. I am running sa 2.6, redhat 7.3, courier 0.43.0 The following is a header from one of the messages: Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Return-Path

Re: [SAtalk] Why is auto-learn set to no?

2003-09-23 Thread Martin Radford
At Tue Sep 23 06:52:40 2003, Patrick Morris wrote: > Robert Nicholson wrote: > > > X-Spam-Status: > > Yes, hits=10.7 required=0.6 tests=DATE_IN_PAST_03_06, > > DATE_SPAMWARE_Y2K,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,FORGED_OUTLOOK_HTML,HTML_60_70, > > HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE,HTML_FONTCOLOR_GREEN,HTML_FONTCOLOR_RED, > >

Re: [SAtalk] Why is auto-learn set to no?

2003-09-23 Thread Patrick Morris
Robert Nicholson wrote: > RE: > > X-Spam-Status: > Yes, hits=10.7 required=0.6 tests=DATE_IN_PAST_03_06, > DATE_SPAMWARE_Y2K,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,FORGED_OUTLOOK_HTML,HTML_60_70, > HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE,HTML_FONTCOLOR_GREEN,HTML_FONTCOLOR_RED, > HTML_MESSAGE,MIME_HTML_ONLY,MIME_HTML_ONLY_MULTI,MISSING_

Re: [SAtalk] Why is auto-learn set to no?

2003-09-22 Thread Robert Nicholson
It seems i didn't appreciate that autolearn in that line relates to how that particular message was autolearnt. So things are working as I expect them to. --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgee

[SAtalk] Why is auto-learn set to no?

2003-09-22 Thread Robert Nicholson
RE: X-Spam-Status: Yes, hits=10.7 required=0.6 tests=DATE_IN_PAST_03_06, DATE_SPAMWARE_Y2K,FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK,FORGED_OUTLOOK_HTML,HTML_60_70, HTML_FONTCOLOR_BLUE,HTML_FONTCOLOR_GREEN,HTML_FONTCOLOR_RED, HTML_MESSAGE,MIME_HTML_ONLY,MIME_HTML_ONLY_MULTI,MISSING_MIMEOLE, NORMAL_HTTP_TO_IP autolea

Re: [SAtalk] why it pass SA

2003-09-22 Thread landy
> You also didn't say what version of SA, or anything about your setup (bayes > enabled? awl enabled? is razor installed?, etc). Including some > configuration information, at least a version, is helpful when asking this > kind of question. quite honest i am running a default installation of

Re: [SAtalk] why it pass SA

2003-09-21 Thread Matt Kettler
At 06:34 PM 9/21/03 -0400, landy wrote: any idea why this pass thru SA Well, first, that message is not spam, it's a virus. It's the result of a newer mail worm/virus called the swen worm. SpamAssassin sometimes tags viruses, but that's not it's job in life. It's job is to identify spam and take

[SAtalk] why it pass SA

2003-09-21 Thread landy
any idea why this pass thru SA From: MS Security Services <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Commercial Partner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: New Microsoft Critical Update Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2003 18:13:41 -0400 Microsoft All Products | Support | Se

Re: [SAtalk] why are scores so high?

2003-09-05 Thread Ian D.
- Original Message - From: "SpamAssassin Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Ian D." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Friday, September 05, 2003 1:58 PM Subject: Re: [SAtalk] why are scores so high? > Ian D. wrote: > > >We

Re: [SAtalk] why are scores so high?

2003-09-05 Thread SpamAssassin Talk
Ian D. wrote: We have had some legitimate mail messages that scored higher than anticipated, and it appears that the following tests are the biggest contributors: score BASE64_ENC_TEXT 2.354 1.643 1.544 1.768 score MIME_HTML_NO_CHARSET 0.638 0.759 0.365 0.0 Is base64-encoded text really such a t

[SAtalk] why are scores so high?

2003-09-05 Thread Ian D.
We have had some legitimate mail messages that scored higher than anticipated, and it appears that the following tests are the biggest contributors: score BASE64_ENC_TEXT 2.354 1.643 1.544 1.768 score MIME_HTML_NO_CHARSET 0.638 0.759 0.365 0.0 Is base64-encoded text really such a telling sign of

Re: [SAtalk] why so low

2003-09-04 Thread Matt Kettler
At 06:31 AM 9/4/2003 -0400, landy wrote: i have been getting many of these and even after doing sa-learn the score is super low, these emails are really pissing me of Are you *SURE* those aren't a GENUINE email related to your real ebay account? The fact that the message matches GENUINE_EBAY_RCVD

Re: [SAtalk] why so low

2003-09-04 Thread Carlo Wood
On Thu, Sep 04, 2003 at 06:31:09AM -0400, landy wrote: > i have been getting many of these > and even after doing sa-learn the score is super low, > these emails are really pissing me of > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; cha

RE: [SAtalk] why so low

2003-09-04 Thread Tom Meunier
http://useast.spamassassin.org/tests.html You've got negative scores all over that thing. Add them up. > -Original Message- > From: landy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2003 5:31 AM > To: SA > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [SAtalk]

[SAtalk] why so low

2003-09-04 Thread landy
i have been getting many of these and even after doing sa-learn the score is super low, these emails are really pissing me of To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Subject: Change password. Date: Wed, 03 Sep 2003 21:35:21

RE: [SAtalk] Why tagged as spam when HITS < REQUIRED ??

2003-09-03 Thread Steve Brorens
Hmm, turns out that I'm getting admin messages about these, but they're not actually stopped. Looks like $sa_tag2_level_deflt and $sa_kill_level_deflt in amavisd.conf were the root cause. I've set them to match the sa setting in local.cf and will see how that runs... - steve

Re: [SAtalk] Why tagged as spam when HITS < REQUIRED ??

2003-09-03 Thread Matt Kettler
At 09:47 AM 9/4/03 +1200, Steve Brorens wrote: On my experimantal 'gateway' configuration (Postfix/Amavisd-new/SA) I see a few instances where msgs get classified as spam tho the report shows the hits DO NOT exceed the required: ---snip form the report--- Content ana

Re: [SAtalk] Why tagged as spam when HITS < REQUIRED ??

2003-09-03 Thread Evan Platt
--On Thursday, September 04, 2003 9:47 AM +1200 Steve Brorens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On my experimantal 'gateway' configuration (Postfix/Amavisd-new/SA) I > see a few instances where msgs get classified as spam tho the report > shows the hits DO NOT exceed the required: > > ---

[SAtalk] Why tagged as spam when HITS < REQUIRED ??

2003-09-03 Thread Steve Brorens
On my experimantal 'gateway' configuration (Postfix/Amavisd-new/SA) I see a few instances where msgs get classified as spam tho the report shows the hits DO NOT exceed the required: ---snip form the report--- Content analysis details: (3.40 points, 3.75 required)

Re: [SAtalk] Why are there 4 scores?

2003-08-04 Thread Peter Campion-Bye
> On Sun, 3 Aug 2003 23:48:44 -0400 Daniel Carrera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > >> How do I find out which one my system has? This is a UNIX network. > > You'd have to look at the SA docs or in the score sets; I'm not sure > which ones SA uses out-of-the-box. I prefer the open proxy lists, dialu

Re: [SAtalk] Why are there 4 scores?

2003-08-03 Thread Bob Apthorpe
On Sun, 3 Aug 2003 23:48:44 -0400 Daniel Carrera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Nope. 'net' means with DNSBL checks. 'local' means no DNSBL lookups. > > Huh? What is a DNSBL? DNS-based blacklist - see http://openrbl.org and http://www.declude.com/junkmail/support/ip4r.htm for more info. > How

Re: [SAtalk] Why are there 4 scores?

2003-08-03 Thread Daniel Carrera
> Nope. 'net' means with DNSBL checks. 'local' means no DNSBL lookups. Huh? What is a DNSBL? How do I find out which one my system has? This is a UNIX network. -- Daniel Carrera | PGP: 6643 8C8B 3522 66CB D16C D779 2FDD 7DAC 9AF7 7A88 Math PhD. UMD | http://www.math.umd.edu/~dcarrera/pgp.htm

Re: [SAtalk] Why are there 4 scores?

2003-08-03 Thread Bob Apthorpe
On Sun, 3 Aug 2003 21:56:40 -0400 Daniel Carrera <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hello, > > I think I sort of understand why rules have 4 numbers. But I was hoping > that someone could confirm this. From the SA website, I learn that there > are 4 scores I can attribute to each rule: >local,

[SAtalk] Why are there 4 scores?

2003-08-03 Thread Daniel Carrera
Hello, I think I sort of understand why rules have 4 numbers. But I was hoping that someone could confirm this. From the SA website, I learn that there are 4 scores I can attribute to each rule: local, net, with bayes, with bayes+net I figure that the later two correspond to the first two

[SAtalk] Why won't this auto-learn?

2003-07-17 Thread Joe Julian
Title: Message I have a list of specific trusted addresses in my whitelist, but it still won't autolearn from them. Why not? Their scores are quite negative, way below -2, but it still won't autolearn from them. It looks like it's ignoring the whitelist when checking whether or not it should

Re: [SAtalk] Why wil "sa-learn" not learn?

2003-07-13 Thread Simon Byrnand
At 20:30 13/07/03 -0700, Chris Petersen wrote: > Whatever I do, sa-learn will not accept it as spam. :( It takes about 500-1000 learned spams before SA starts marking things with the bayes filter. I've put at least that many in, and still only about half of my spams have bayes markings in them (a

Re: [SAtalk] Why wil "sa-learn" not learn?

2003-07-13 Thread Chris Petersen
> Whatever I do, sa-learn will not accept it as spam. :( It takes about 500-1000 learned spams before SA starts marking things with the bayes filter. I've put at least that many in, and still only about half of my spams have bayes markings in them (and about 10% of my daily spam still gets throug

Re: [SAtalk] Why wil "sa-learn" not learn?

2003-07-13 Thread Mark
- Original Message - From: "Theo Van Dinter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Mark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, July 14, 2003 1:57 AM Subject: Re: [SAtalk] Why wil "sa-learn" not learn? > On Sun, Jul 13, 2003 at 10:

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