Re: [0.3] Re: [SAtalk] Body rule not working SOME times...

2003-10-13 Thread Charles Gregory
On Tue, 14 Oct 2003, Matt Kettler wrote: > Well, a copy-paste of some interpretation of the message by pine isn't > really going to give us much useful information to go on. > However, I'd venture to guess that the MIME construction is of a nature > which confuses SA.. For example, a bug that was

Re: [SAtalk] Osirusoft problems

2003-10-13 Thread Charles Gregory
On Tue, 14 Oct 2003, Matt Kettler wrote: > OSIRUSOFT is and has been DEAD. They now match EVERY IP address in the > world in an effort to force everyone to wake up and stop using OSIRUSOFT as > a blacklist. Ah. Excellent. So I need not worry about this. Thanks! - Charles

Re: [SAtalk] More HTML Obfuscation: This One Made It Through

2003-10-13 Thread Daniel Quinlan
Larry Gilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Two SA rules to help immediately with this are: > > ### I wrapped the rawbody line to keep the integrity of the rule. > # Invisible text color in font tag > rawbody MY_RBDY_INVSTXT >//i > describe MY_RBDY_INVSTXTMY: Invisible text color > sc

Re: [SAtalk] Osirusoft problems

2003-10-13 Thread Matt Kettler
At 12:50 AM 10/14/03 -0400, Charles Gregory wrote: While I think of it, can anyone tell me HOW to actually reach a warm body at 'Osirusoft' and get them to correct the 'blacklisting' of our mail server? It shows up as an open relay, which is something we've never been. I've run several open relay t

Re: [SAtalk] Re: Any Idea When RH RPMs are coming out?

2003-10-13 Thread Charles Gregory
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003, Bob Proulx wrote: > http://spamassassin.org/released/RPMs/ > Basically the following commands should do it. > wget http://spamassassin.org/released/RPMs/spamassassin-2.60-1.src.rpm > rpmbuild --rebuild spamassassin-2.60-1.src.rpm > rpm -Uvh spamassassin-2.60-1.i386.rpm

Re: [SAtalk] Body rule not working SOME times...

2003-10-13 Thread Matt Kettler
At 12:39 AM 10/14/03 -0400, Charles Gregory wrote: Is there something about the windows charset that throws off the recipe? Or are they using 'high bit' to invalidate the regex? Well, a copy-paste of some interpretation of the message by pine isn't really going to give us much useful information t

[SAtalk] Body rule not working SOME times...

2003-10-13 Thread Charles Gregory
Hi! I've got a rule (SA 2.44) that looks like this: body LOC_DOCTORB /our doctors will write.*prescription/i I've seen it work a few times, so the syntax is okay. But today it did not match on the following (excuse the full headers,but they might give a clue): Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTE

[SAtalk] Osirusoft problems

2003-10-13 Thread Charles Gregory
Hallo! While I think of it, can anyone tell me HOW to actually reach a warm body at 'Osirusoft' and get them to correct the 'blacklisting' of our mail server? It shows up as an open relay, which is something we've never been. I've run several open relay tests just to be sure we weren't hacked. In

RE: [SAtalk] Not reading local.cf?

2003-10-13 Thread Tom Meunier
-H should list a directory other than the default home directory of the user that's calling spamc. Else, don't use it at all. -m5 should be -m 5 I believe. Other than that, Idunno. Feel free to ignore me. -tom > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [SAtalk] Not reading local.cf?

2003-10-13 Thread Dave Bartmess
OK, that doesn't work... I changed from: SPAMDOPTIONS="-d -c -a -m5 -H " to: SPAMDOPTIONS="-d -c -a -m5 -H -u root" and now spamd won't start. The line in the spamd init.d script that actually calls it is: daemon spamd $SPAMDOPTIONS and that is directly from the Mail-SpamAssassin

RE: [SAtalk] Consonant and Vowel Pairs or Sequences

2003-10-13 Thread Larry Gilson
Thanks Matthew, All the input I can get helps! --Larry > -Original Message- > From: Matthew Cline > Sent: Monday, October 13, 2003 7:27 PM > To: Larry Gilson > Subject: Re: [SAtalk] Consonant and Vowel Pairs or Sequences > > > On Monday 13 October 2003 01:02 pm, Larry Gilson wrote: >

FW: [SAtalk] Consonant and Vowel Pairs or Sequences

2003-10-13 Thread Larry Gilson
Hi Terry, This is useful feedback. It helps me think that there are so many more combinations of consonants that the test may not be worth the effort. I will continue to look at the problem as I would like to more accurately test for random strings. I can see the possiblity that a consonant pai

Re: [SAtalk] Re: Any Idea When RH RPMs are coming out?

2003-10-13 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Mon, Oct 13, 2003 at 09:17:17PM -0600, Bob Proulx wrote: > Red Hat seems to be in a transition. Not sure there _will_ be another > consumer release of Red Hat. Check out the Fedora Project for > details. There won't be, according to the RH sales guy I spoke with today. RHN will stop supportin

RE: [SAtalk] Re: Any Idea When RH RPMs are coming out?

2003-10-13 Thread Larry Gilson
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, October 13, 2003 11:17 PM > To: 'SA' > Subject: [SAtalk] Re: Any Idea When RH RPMs are coming out? > > > Bill Polhemus wrote: > > I really would prefer to implement something as complex as SA through > > the RPMs on my Red

[SAtalk] Re: Any Idea When RH RPMs are coming out?

2003-10-13 Thread Bob Proulx
Bill Polhemus wrote: > I really would prefer to implement something as complex as SA through the > RPMs on my Red Hat 9 system. So far, they are only up to SA 2.55. That has > worked fine up until recently, when the HTML obfuscation has begun cropping > up. Perhaps 2.60 can fix that. > > Any idea

RE: [SAtalk] More HTML Obfuscation: This One Made It Through

2003-10-13 Thread Bill Polhemus
You're right, this wasn't the best example of the spurious HTML tag ploy. I got one earlier today or yesterday that was seemingly from this same spammer, which DID have those "bad tags," and when I grabbed this to post to the list I ASS-umed that this would be similar, but you're correct, it's real

RE: [SAtalk] More HTML Obfuscation: This One Made It Through

2003-10-13 Thread Keith C. Ivey
Larry Gilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > ### I wrapped the rawbody line to keep the integrity of the > ### rule. > # Invisible text color in font tag > rawbody MY_RBDY_INVSTXT >//i > describe MY_RBDY_INVSTXTMY: Invisible text color > scoreMY_RBDY_INVSTXT2.0 That should work.

Re: [SAtalk] More HTML Obfuscation: This One Made It Through

2003-10-13 Thread Keith C. Ivey
Bill Polhemus <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > They use the > spurious HTML tags to break up the text and get it through the > Bayesian filter. I don't see any text actually broken up. There's just not that much to trigger on. The drug names (most of which aren't in the default rules yet) are bro

RE: [SAtalk] More HTML Obfuscation: This One Made It Through

2003-10-13 Thread Larry Gilson
Hi Bill, Two SA rules to help immediately with this are: ### I wrapped the rawbody line to keep the integrity of the rule. # Invisible text color in font tag rawbody MY_RBDY_INVSTXT //i describe MY_RBDY_INVSTXTMY: Invisible text color scoreMY_RBDY_INVSTXT2.0 # Obfuscate text

[SAtalk] Any Idea When RH RPMs are coming out?

2003-10-13 Thread Bill Polhemus
I really would prefer to implement something as complex as SA through the RPMs on my Red Hat 9 system. So far, they are only up to SA 2.55. That has worked fine up until recently, when the HTML obfuscation has begun cropping up. Perhaps 2.60 can fix that. Any idea when those will be available? Wi

RE: [SAtalk] bad day

2003-10-13 Thread Colin A. Bartlett
Jack Gostl Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2003 11:38 PM: > We run around 50%. And that's by count. With the MS worms flying in we > have noticably more spam by volume than real mail. Some quick queries of my spam stats log database say we're at over 75%. Landy and Jack you are lucky. I'm sure there ar

[SAtalk] local rbl

2003-10-13 Thread Steve Heggood
I have been following this list for about 2 weeks. From what I have been reading here, it is possible to run a private blacklist at the MTA level somehow using bind. I use RH8, DNS, sendmail, procmail, and spamassassin. I have eliminated my worst offenders by maintaining my access.db to REJECT

RE: [SAtalk] bad day

2003-10-13 Thread Colin A. Bartlett
Colin A. Bartlett Kinetic Web Solutions office: 610-831-9030 x51 mobile: 215-292-2193 home: 215-292-2616 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Jack Gostl Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2003 11:38 PM To: landy Cc: SA Subject: Re: [SAtalk] bad day We

[SAtalk] More HTML Obfuscation: This One Made It Through

2003-10-13 Thread Bill Polhemus
Here's another one from a batch of several that have gotten through SA 2.55 over the last several days. They use the spurious HTML tags to break up the text and get it through the Bayesian filter. I'm running these through every time I get one--and luckily, there've only been about one or two per

Re: [SAtalk] RBL checks from behind firewall and virus appliance

2003-10-13 Thread Matt Kettler
At 05:00 PM 10/13/03 -0400, Jon Fraley wrote: I currently have RBL checks turned off on our SA 2.6. We do our RBL checks at the firewall. Can SA do the RBL checks from within our network behind a virus appliance, or does it just check the last hop that was made. The reason I ask this is that I d

Re: [SAtalk] -a flag

2003-10-13 Thread Justin Mason
Matt Kettler writes: > At 10:14 AM 10/13/2003, Mike Carlson wrote: > >Has -a been deprecated and now a default option? > >I am still starting spamd with the -a option and I am wondering if I still > >need it. > > Um why would the AWL ever become a default. It's clearly NOT a good > idea for

RE: [SAtalk] bad day

2003-10-13 Thread Colin A. Bartlett
Antonio Nó Rodríguez Sent: Monday, October 13, 2003 6:06 PM > How do you get those nice logs? I've been looking for something similar > but haven't find anything yet. > Thank you > Antonio I wrote an ASP script (It's all I know) that reads the maillog from our SA server into our MS SQL server. It

[SAtalk] Upgrade your SA! (was: image only porn)

2003-10-13 Thread Kenneth Porter
--On Monday, October 13, 2003 6:04 PM -0400 "Carl R. Friend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Do. 2.60 fixes quite a few things, shuts down now-long-gone > RBLs, improves scoring, and (even though I was originally a > skeptic) performs well enough (sans Bayes). And like anti-virus software, anti-

Re: [SAtalk] Not reading local.cf?

2003-10-13 Thread Matt Kettler
At 01:27 PM 10/13/2003, Dave Bartmess wrote: I've got the following in my local.cf, running SA as root (from init.d script), and it never comes up saying that it's using auto-learn, and the bayes files never seem to change... What's going on with this? I assume you mean you're running spamd, not SA

Re: [SAtalk] -a flag

2003-10-13 Thread Matt Kettler
At 10:14 AM 10/13/2003, Mike Carlson wrote: Has -a been deprecated and now a default option? I am still starting spamd with the -a option and I am wondering if I still need it. --Mike Um why would the AWL ever become a default. It's clearly NOT a good idea for certain kinds of server deploy

Re: [SAtalk] Consonant and Vowel Pairs or Sequences

2003-10-13 Thread Terry
On Monday, October 13, 2003 at 9:02 PM, Larry wrote: > Does anyone know of a list of either: > 1) existing/allowed consonant/vowel pairs or sequences > 2) non-existing/not-allowed consonant/vowel pairs or sequences > For the English language preferably. I don't know about pairs of consonants/vowe

Re: [SAtalk] bad day

2003-10-13 Thread Simon Byrnand
At 17:55 13/10/2003 -0400, landy wrote: On Mon, 2003-10-13 at 20:54, Simon Byrnand wrote: > > > > We run around 50%. And that's by count. With the MS worms flying in we > > have noticably more spam by volume than real mail. > > Our current stats are 57% Spam, 43% ham. And thats not counting viruses

RE: [SAtalk] System crashing with spamd

2003-10-13 Thread David McMahon
Hi Michael, I gave this a try, commenting out bayes and then adding it back too. NOW I'm seeing spamd running for about 1 hour before it crashes the machine with and without bayes commented. A marked improvement, but still crashing my machine. I did also update DB_File using CPAN, but I noticed

Re: [SAtalk] bad day

2003-10-13 Thread landy
On Mon, 2003-10-13 at 20:54, Simon Byrnand wrote: > > > > We run around 50%. And that's by count. With the MS worms flying in we > > have noticably more spam by volume than real mail. > > Our current stats are 57% Spam, 43% ham. And thats not counting viruses, > which get blocked before spamassass

Re: [SAtalk] bad dayhttp://www.gryzor.com/tools/#spamstats

2003-10-13 Thread landy
On Mon, 2003-10-13 at 12:13, cyrille wrote: > landy a écrit: > > >File /var/log/mail : from Oct 12 00:05:27 to Oct 12 21:10:54 > >Total number of emails processed by the spam filter : 171 > >Number of spams :36 ( 21.05%) > >Number of clean messages:

Re: [SAtalk] bad day

2003-10-13 Thread Antonio Nó Rodríguez
How do you get those nice logs? I've been looking for something similar but haven't find anything yet. Thank you Antonio El lun, 13-10-2003 a las 03:16, landy escribió: > i cant believe today i have so fat 21% spam > > > File /var/log/mail : from Oct 12 00:05:27 to Oct 12 21:10:54 > Total number

Re: [SAtalk] image only porn

2003-10-13 Thread Carl R. Friend
John writes: > I have been running spamassassin 2.55 for some time (am about to go to > 2.60). Do. 2.60 fixes quite a few things, shuts down now-long-gone RBLs, improves scoring, and (even though I was originally a skeptic) performs well enough (sans Bayes). > Everything has been working

Re: [SAtalk] SpamAssassin not scanning...

2003-10-13 Thread Jean-Sébastien Guay
Hello, > > X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no > > version=2.60 > > > > Why is SpamAssassin running no tests on the mail? > > It probably ran all the tests on the mail but none of them matched > the mail. > > > And why is autolearn set to no? > > It's not set to off as

RE: [SAtalk] image only porn

2003-10-13 Thread Gary Funck
> -Original Message- > From: John Scully > > I have been running spamassassin 2.55 for some time (am about to go to > 2.60). > I'd recommend trying out 2.60, and seeing if things get better. In particular, it has a pattern which matches HTML redirection through a a Yahoo! site. Last ti

Re: [SAtalk] Consonant and Vowel Pairs or Sequences

2003-10-13 Thread Fred I-IS.COM
Hello, I created a list which might be helpful, using a dictionary I searched for letter pairs which did not exist. I created the following meta rule to search for these non-existant pairs, it might do just what you are looking for. body __OBFU_J /j(b|c|f|g|w)/i body __OBFU_OTHER /(vj|vk|xj|xk

Re: [SAtalk] SA makes ZDNet news

2003-10-13 Thread Jeff Lasman
On Monday 13 October 2003 13:44, Rich Puhek wrote: > No. Read carefully, Wacker didn't say that, the author of the article > did. On more careful reading, you're right. I apologize for my rant. > Heh, I've been pro-Sendmail for a long time. The only thing that > comes close to changing my mind

RE: [SAtalk] image only porn

2003-10-13 Thread Larry Gilson
Hi John, It might be better to look at the source of the message, find a pattern, create a custom rule, and then score it high (after some testing). --Larry > -Original Message- > From: John Scully > Sent: Monday, October 13, 2003 4:14 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: [SAtalk] imag

Re: [SAtalk] X-Transfer-number and X-Transfer-stamp ?

2003-10-13 Thread Peter Kiem
Does ANYONE know if X-Transfer-number and X-Transfer-stamp are 1) Valid in normal email use? 2) Worth coding rules for? On Sat, 2003-10-11 at 11:04, Peter Kiem wrote: > Hi, > > Just had a spam get through that had an absolute bucketload of headers > all of type x-transfer-number and x-transfer-s

Re: [SAtalk] SA makes ZDNet news

2003-10-13 Thread Rich Puhek
Jeff Lasman wrote: On Monday 13 October 2003 07:16, Todd Schuldt wrote: Full article at: URL: http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1104-5089977.html So let me get this straight, Rand Wacker, director of product strategy and planning for e-mail software maker Sendmail, says The attack on the software

[SAtalk] RBL checks from behind firewall and virus appliance

2003-10-13 Thread Jon Fraley
I currently have RBL checks turned off on our SA 2.6. We do our RBL checks at the firewall. Can SA do the RBL checks from within our network behind a virus appliance, or does it just check the last hop that was made. The reason I ask this is that I do not have control over our firewall so I can

Re: [SAtalk] Consonant and Vowel Pairs or Sequences

2003-10-13 Thread mikea
On Mon, Oct 13, 2003 at 04:02:05PM -0400, Larry Gilson wrote: > Does anyone know of a list of either: > 1) existing/allowed consonant/vowel pairs or sequences > 2) non-existing/not-allowed consonant/vowel pairs or sequences > > For the English language preferably. I'd google on "English digraph f

[SAtalk] procmail processes rising

2003-10-13 Thread Vicki Brown
We call Spam Assassin from procmail (and call procmail from .forward). Out .procmailrc contains :0 fw:sa_foo.lock * < 256000 | /usr/local/bin/spamassassin We're seeing steadily increasing procmail processes for one user (of several who use Spam Assassin and procmail) We're also seeing

[SAtalk] Consonant and Vowel Pairs or Sequences

2003-10-13 Thread Larry Gilson
Does anyone know of a list of either: 1) existing/allowed consonant/vowel pairs or sequences 2) non-existing/not-allowed consonant/vowel pairs or sequences For the English language preferably. Thanks, Larry --- This SF.net email is sponsored

[SAtalk] RD - Large complex rules vs. many small simple rules

2003-10-13 Thread Fred I-IS.COM
Being fairly new to perl, I'm looking for advice. I've created a rule to blacklist certian domains which we do not accept e-mail from. The rule searches for the domain name to appear anywhere in the message body. Is it more effecient to use a large complex rule like: (domain1\.com|domain2\.com|d

[SAtalk] Razor problems today?

2003-10-13 Thread Rob Mangiafico
Is anyone else seeing lots of timeouts for razor today? Seems to be timing out a lot today. I tried changing the discovery servers, etc... but no noticable difference. Rob --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SF.net Giveback Program. Sourc

[SAtalk] image only porn

2003-10-13 Thread John Scully
I have been running spamassassin 2.55 for some time (am about to go to 2.60). We are on sendmail 8.9.12 with DCC. Everything has been working well, with most spam being blocked. Most of the nasty stuff that gets through is image only PORN spam. Is it possible to tell SA to score an image only m

[SAtalk] Not reading local.cf?

2003-10-13 Thread Dave Bartmess
I've got the following in my local.cf, running SA as root (from init.d script), and it never comes up saying that it's using auto-learn, and the bayes files never seem to change... What's going on with this? Using SA 2.60 with XMail 1.17 right now... It works well, SA marks the appropriate message

RE: [SAtalk] SA makes ZDNet news

2003-10-13 Thread Larry Gilson
I don't think that was his point. I believe he indicated that security flaws are found quicker in open source than closed source. Which is true. He also said the counter to that is that a project that is actively developed closes those security flaws quicker than closed source. In the end, he ad

Re: [SAtalk] What's up with this?

2003-10-13 Thread Evan Platt
--On Monday, October 13, 2003 11:32 AM -0700 Ray Dzek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Why would 2.60 only score this a 4.8? Nice attempt at Bayes obfuscation, > but I don't run Bayes here. We're running 2.55 here... X-Spam-Status: Yes, hits=6.0 required=5.0 tests=ACT_NOW_CAPS,BAD_CREDIT,

[SAtalk] What's up with this?

2003-10-13 Thread Ray Dzek
Why would 2.60 only score this a 4.8? Nice attempt at Bayes obfuscation, but I don't run Bayes here. Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: by pop.specialized.com (Postfix, from userid 501) id 52F653DE8; Mon, 13 Oct 2003 10:47:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mai

Re: [SAtalk] SA makes ZDNet news

2003-10-13 Thread Jeff Lasman
On Monday 13 October 2003 07:16, Todd Schuldt wrote: > Full article at: > URL: http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1104-5089977.html So let me get this straight, Rand Wacker, director of product strategy and planning for e-mail software maker Sendmail, says The attack on the software's filtering proce

Re: [SAtalk] Off Subject - Spam FIltering Advice

2003-10-13 Thread Steve Prior
Jeff Koch wrote: We use qmail, vpopmail, and qmail-scanner(also spamassassin but it's not relevant to this question). We're finding that emails forwarded through qmail to Hotmail accounts are getting picked up by Hotmail's enhanced spam filter. These are simple text emails and Hotmail does not a

RE: [SAtalk] Bayes not working.. On System Wide SA

2003-10-13 Thread Tom Meunier
Well, it depends. If you run sa-learn and you're concerned that it's not running, use the --showdots switch and it'll give you a progress indicator. Just go ahead and sa-learn --ham a couple hundred hams real quick, it'll start up from there. No further config necessary. -tom > -Original

Re: [SAtalk] Bayes not working.. On System Wide SA

2003-10-13 Thread Robert Leonard III
Thanks for the tip.. I guess it was an addressing/permission issue.. I see now, when I --lint -D that there are < 200 in my HAM db and the SPAM has now gone over 200 so I am assuming it works.. do I need to do a.. sa-learn --spam to actually implement the database? then a sa-learn --ham once that

Re: [SAtalk] AOL addresses

2003-10-13 Thread Justin Mason
Jon Fraley writes: > On Mon, 2003-10-13 at 09:58, Keith C. Ivey wrote: > > Jon Fraley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > It seems that we do business with alot of people with aol.com > > > email addresses. Practically all of these are getting flagged > > > as SPAM with: > > > > > > 4.1 NO_R

RE: [SAtalk] Popcorn, Backhair, and Weeds

2003-10-13 Thread Larry Gilson
Hi Jennifer, I think I have found a rule that works well for HTML tags, scripts, and all the junk including EOL between tags. / \w{1,7}<\/?[\w\W]{0,150}>\w{1,7}/ The thing that was really throwing me of was the possibility of the leading '>' from '[>\s]' at the beginning of the rule. I finall

[SAtalk] Auto Learning Thresholds for Bayes

2003-10-13 Thread Robert Leonard III
Anybody have any advice on what to set these thresholds at? Currently I run SA's Spam Threshold at 5.5, the default Bayes numbers are .1 for HAM, and 12 for SPAM.. I put mine to 1.0 for HAM and 6.5 for SPAM.. is that reasonable? Thanks! --- T

Re: [SAtalk] bad day

2003-10-13 Thread cyrille
landy a écrit: File /var/log/mail : from Oct 12 00:05:27 to Oct 12 21:10:54 Total number of emails processed by the spam filter : 171 Number of spams :36 ( 21.05%) Number of clean messages: 135 ( 78.95%) ... Hello what script do you use to

RE: [SAtalk] Off Subject - Spam FIltering Advice

2003-10-13 Thread Larry Gilson
Sorry, I only have a question for you and not an answer. Why do you think it is qmail? Can you send the exact same message through a different MTA with different results? Also, are you tagging outbound messages with SA? --Larry > -Original Message- > From: Jeff Koch [mailto:[EMAIL PRO

[SAtalk] user_prefs and amavisd

2003-10-13 Thread Kevin
Hello all, First off, i am very new to amavisd and spamassaasin so please bear with me and excuse me if i am asking an assanine question :) I am currently running postfix+amavisd+spamassassin. (SA is not running as spamd.) Under this configuration i am not using a local.cf file in /etc but rath

RE: [SAtalk] bad day

2003-10-13 Thread Bart Schaefer
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003, Jack Gostl wrote: > > Given that spammers are now using hijacked machines as HTTP proxy servers, > > you're more likely to DDOS several dozen poor schmucks' home cable modem > > No... I think you missed something here. If the spam was hawking the "ABC > Corp. wrinkle removal

[SAtalk] Off Subject - Spam FIltering Advice

2003-10-13 Thread Jeff Koch
This is really off subject but concerns spam filtering. I hope you guys don't get too annoyed. We use qmail, vpopmail, and qmail-scanner(also spamassassin but it's not relevant to this question). We're finding that emails forwarded through qmail to Hotmail accounts are getting picked up by Hotm

RE: [SAtalk] bad day

2003-10-13 Thread Colin A. Bartlett
Jack Gostl Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2003 11:38 PM: > We run around 50%. And that's by count. With the MS worms flying in we > have noticably more spam by volume than real mail. Some quick queries of my logfile database say we're at over 75%. Most of you are lucky. I'm sure there are some among u

Re: [SAtalk] AOL addresses

2003-10-13 Thread Jon Fraley
On Mon, 2003-10-13 at 09:58, Keith C. Ivey wrote: > Jon Fraley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > It seems that we do business with alot of people with aol.com > > email addresses. Practically all of these are getting flagged > > as SPAM with: > > > > 4.1 NO_RDNS_DOTCOM_HELOHost HELO'd as a

[SAtalk] 'check_for_to_in_subject' not working?

2003-10-13 Thread Charles Gregory
Hello! My apologies if this question is answered in the archives, but I could not search on the exact phrase, and so I got a large collection of articles with any of the words 'subject' or 'check', etc. The story: I noticed that spamassassin was not performing one of my favourties checks: The

RE: [SAtalk] bad day

2003-10-13 Thread Jack Gostl
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003, Bart Schaefer wrote: > On Mon, 13 Oct 2003, Jack Gostl wrote: > > > By the way, there is an interesting article on "fighting back" by Paul > > Graham called "Filters That Fight Back." > > > > http://www.paulgraham.com/ffb.html > > > > He basically suggests culling URLs

Re: [SAtalk] bad day

2003-10-13 Thread mikea
On Mon, Oct 13, 2003 at 10:24:27AM -0400, Scott Blomquist wrote: > > > Simon Byrnand wrote: > > >>We run around 50%. And that's by count. With the MS worms flying in we > >>have noticably more spam by volume than real mail. > > > > > > Our current stats are 57% Spam, 43% ham. And thats not cou

RE: [SAtalk] bad day

2003-10-13 Thread Bart Schaefer
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003, Jack Gostl wrote: > By the way, there is an interesting article on "fighting back" by Paul > Graham called "Filters That Fight Back." > > http://www.paulgraham.com/ffb.html > > He basically suggests culling URLs from spam and kicking off something > like wget to retri

Re: [SAtalk] bad day

2003-10-13 Thread Scott Blomquist
Simon Byrnand wrote: We run around 50%. And that's by count. With the MS worms flying in we have noticably more spam by volume than real mail. Our current stats are 57% Spam, 43% ham. And thats not counting viruses, which get blocked before spamassassin even runs. Kinda makes you wonder where

[SAtalk] SA makes ZDNet news

2003-10-13 Thread Todd Schuldt
Full article at: URL: http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1104-5089977.html Regards, Todd --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SF.net Giveback Program. SourceForge.net hosts over 70,000 Open Source Projects. See the people who have HELPED US provi

[SAtalk] -a flag

2003-10-13 Thread Mike Carlson
Has -a been deprecated and now a default option?   I am still starting spamd with the -a option and I am wondering if I still need it.   --Mike  

Re: [SAtalk] AOL addresses

2003-10-13 Thread Keith C. Ivey
Jon Fraley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > It seems that we do business with alot of people with aol.com > email addresses. Practically all of these are getting flagged > as SPAM with: > > 4.1 NO_RDNS_DOTCOM_HELOHost HELO'd as a big ISP, but had no > rDNS 2.4 FAKE_HELO_AOL Host HELO

RE: [SAtalk] SA users implementing DCC

2003-10-13 Thread Rice, MA Mark (6750) @ IS
Yes, Larry, it's a firewall configuration issue. If you receive responses from a few public DCC servers, your firewall is likely allowing DCC to do its job. - Mark Rice > -- > From: Larry Gilson[SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > According to reports from other people, the SpamAssas

RE: [SAtalk] bad day

2003-10-13 Thread Jack Gostl
On Mon, 13 Oct 2003, Colin A. Bartlett wrote: > Jack Gostl Sent: Monday, October 13, 2003 8:15 AM > > > All of which makes me wonder exactly who is motivated to fix this mess. I > > suppose that any day now someone will say that spam is the engine of > > economic recovery. (G) > > _We_ are. The

[SAtalk] AOL addresses

2003-10-13 Thread Jon Fraley
It seems that we do business with alot of people with aol.com email addresses. Practically all of these are getting flagged as SPAM with: 4.1 NO_RDNS_DOTCOM_HELOHost HELO'd as a big ISP, but had no rDNS 2.4 FAKE_HELO_AOL Host HELO did not match rDNS: aol.com We have required_hits

RE: [SAtalk] bad day

2003-10-13 Thread Colin A. Bartlett
Jack Gostl Sent: Monday, October 13, 2003 8:15 AM > All of which makes me wonder exactly who is motivated to fix this mess. I > suppose that any day now someone will say that spam is the engine of > economic recovery. (G) _We_ are. The more people that we can get to implement this sort of filteri

[SAtalk] sa-learn (fwd)

2003-10-13 Thread Jack Gostl
I posted this the other day and haven't heard any comments. Anyone else come across this? I've seen this error several times while trying to run sa-learn on large "mbox" loads of messages: unlock: 69574 unlink failed: /u/gostl/.spamassassin/bayes.lock What seems to be happening here is

RE: [SAtalk] bad day

2003-10-13 Thread Bill
> Kinda makes you wonder where the world is heading when more > email is junk than legitimate :/ > I see the email world heading towards secure email. A world where you cannot send an email until/unless your mailer software has a key installed that validates all mail leaving your site. If you re

Re: [SAtalk] Whitelist?

2003-10-13 Thread Matt Kettler
At 09:55 PM 10/12/2003, Robert Nicholson wrote: Q. With the SA whitelist, will mail that contains addresses that are on the whitelist ever be checked for spam? Yes. The SA whitelist only performs a score-biasing method, but the messages are still checked. This applies to both the conventional, an

Re: [SAtalk] bad day

2003-10-13 Thread Jack Gostl
On Tue, 14 Oct 2003, Simon Byrnand wrote: > > > > We run around 50%. And that's by count. With the MS worms flying in we > > have noticably more spam by volume than real mail. > > Our current stats are 57% Spam, 43% ham. And thats not counting viruses, > which get blocked before spamassassin even

RE: [SAtalk] whitelist_from simply does not work for me

2003-10-13 Thread Matt Kettler
At 07:06 PM 10/10/2003, Dan Tappin wrote: I have tried: whitelist_from [EMAIL PROTECTED] and whitelist_from [EMAIL PROTECTED] in my config files. Any ideas??? Those should work.. have you run spamassassin --lint? It's possible there's a typo in your config file and SA winds up skipping chunks

[SAtalk] Problem with Perl module

2003-10-13 Thread Andrea Araghiyan
Hi, I have installed on Redhat 9 - Sendmail 8.12.8 these packages: spamassassin-2.60-1.i386.rpmspamass-milter-0.2.0-3.i386.rpm All worked correctly until installing and delete some Perl module from system. Now spamd don't start and give this error: > (i386-linux-thread-multi-2.4.21-1.19

Re: [SAtalk] bad day

2003-10-13 Thread Simon Byrnand
> > We run around 50%. And that's by count. With the MS worms flying in we > have noticably more spam by volume than real mail. Our current stats are 57% Spam, 43% ham. And thats not counting viruses, which get blocked before spamassassin even runs. Kinda makes you wonder where the world is headi

[SAtalk] Bayes expire in SA 2.60

2003-10-13 Thread Bernd Kuhls
Hi, I am using SA 2.60, updated vom 2.55 some weeks ago. I was also using various rc-versions of 2.60. In local.cf I have no values assigned to the use of the Bayes-db so I am running on default values. When I try to clean up the Bayes db I get this: router:/disk/log # sa-learn -D --force-exp

[SAtalk] I'd like to discuss timeouts...

2003-10-13 Thread Ole Nomann Thomsen
Hi, as the subject says: I'm running a spamd-process on a dedicated server, with the clients running on another machine. The load seems to be a little less than 1 mail/second, but since the server is a 2 x Intel(R) Xeon(TM) CPU 2.40GHz, things seem to run okay, most of the time. But once in a

[SAtalk] SA don't use bayes since Friday ?

2003-10-13 Thread Muenz, Michael
Hi ML, I use SA 2.55 and have updated some perl modules (libnet, HTML-Parser ...). Now SA doesn't check the Bayes database and most spam gets through. Is there a problem with 2.55 and newer perl modules ? Thx - Michael --- This SF.net email

[SAtalk] add rule

2003-10-13 Thread tut.by
How i can add my rule: Example: when receive mail from [EMAIL PROTECTED] - add this email 1.5 hits? --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: SF.net Giveback Program. SourceForge.net hosts over 70,000 Open Source Projects. See the people who have