Re: [SAtalk] razor2 and spamassassin

2002-10-28 Thread John covici
Debian installed razor2, so I was surprised when it came up. I did spamassassin -r -D and I got a message saying no such file or directory razor2 needs authentication Mail/Spamassassin/Reporter.pm line 77. So then I tried to register, but it said my Email was already registered, so I tried a new

RE: [SAtalk] AWL broken in 2.43?

2002-10-28 Thread Michael Moncur
> Personally, I think the AWL is in general a fundamentally broken concept, > however there are people out there who think otherwise. I will > likely never use the AWL feature of SA in any form of production environment. > I see very minimal benefit from it's use, and a very long history of severe

Re: [SAtalk] spamd and virtual users

2002-10-28 Thread Chris Petersen
> The purpose of spamc is to be as lightweight as possible. Ideally > spamc will not contain any features that aren't useful by most people. I doubt that passing a couple of variables to spamd would increase the overhead of spamc by anything noticeable. But I get your point. I'm just trying to f

[SAtalk] spam archive?

2002-10-28 Thread Chris Fortune
I remember somebody posted an archive of collected spam emails a couple of weeks ago.  URL?  Is there a web interface to test rules with?

Re: [SAtalk] razor2 and spamassassin

2002-10-28 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Mon, Oct 28, 2002 at 09:05:15PM -0500, John covici wrote: > I have spamassasin 2.41 but razor2 still is not working. How do I > get the authentication working, the message it gave was not very > helpful. I tried to register, but that didn't solve the problem. For checking or for reporting? W

Re: [SAtalk] razor2 and spamassassin

2002-10-28 Thread John covici
I have spamassasin 2.41 but razor2 still is not working. How do I get the authentication working, the message it gave was not very helpful. I tried to register, but that didn't solve the problem. on Monday 10/28/2002 Theo Van Dinter([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote > On Mon, Oct 28, 2002 at 05:52:43PM

Re: [SAtalk] razor2 and spamassassin

2002-10-28 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Mon, Oct 28, 2002 at 05:52:43PM -0500, John Covici wrote: > Hi. I am not sure, does spamassassin work with the new version of > razor (2.x versions)? On my last Debian upgrade I had razor2 SpamAssassin 2.4 and later works with Razor2. Earlier versions only supported Razor1. > installed, but

[SAtalk] Doonesbury cartoon about spam

2002-10-28 Thread Kenneth Chen
I figured you guys might enjoy this strip in the Sunday funnies. http://www.doonesbury.com/strip/dailydose/index.cfm?uc_full_date=20021027&uc_comic=db&uc_daction=X He needs to install Spamassassin! :) (If you can't access it, go to Doonesbury.com, select Daily Dose, then select October 27th). E

Re: [SAtalk] spamd and virtual users

2002-10-28 Thread Rick Macdougall
Hi, The MySQL (in this case, it's what I use) allows users to change or set specific options for spamd, in the usual case the report_score, mime_defang, report_body and white and black lists. There is nothing to maintain, if the users aren't listed in the DB, then the defaults are used. This all

Re: [SAtalk] spamd and virtual users

2002-10-28 Thread Duncan Findlay
On Mon, Oct 28, 2002 at 02:48:51PM -0800, Chris Petersen wrote: > why not just let spamc handle more of the normal spamassassin commands, > anyway? The purpose of spamc is to be as lightweight as possible. Ideally spamc will not contain any features that aren't useful by most people. -- Duncan F

Re: [SAtalk] spamd and virtual users

2002-10-28 Thread Chris Petersen
> Why not use an SQL database instead? That's what we do with vpopmail > (although I'd love for qmail-scanner to have support for virtual users, oh > well) and it works just dandy. sql database for what? authentication? Or everything? The only reason these users are "virtual" is because they'

RE: [SAtalk] MailScanner vs Milter installation

2002-10-28 Thread John Rudd
> From: "Rose, Bobby" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > I think it's also a matter of perception. In the case of a milter, you > still have only one sendmail process handling incoming mail so a the > backed up queues are still happening just on someone elses system while > the milter returns back to sendmai

Re: [SAtalk] spamd and virtual users

2002-10-28 Thread Rick Macdougall
Hi, Why not use an SQL database instead? That's what we do with vpopmail (although I'd love for qmail-scanner to have support for virtual users, oh well) and it works just dandy. Regards, Rick - Original Message - From: "Chris Petersen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent:

[SAtalk] razor2 and spamassassin

2002-10-28 Thread John Covici
Hi. I am not sure, does spamassassin work with the new version of razor (2.x versions)? On my last Debian upgrade I had razor2 installed, but it wanted some kind of authentication -- I tried to fool with it, but sa was not happy, so my only recourse was to find razor1 at sourceforge and download

Re: [SAtalk] spamd and virtual users

2002-10-28 Thread Chris Petersen
I haven't heard a reply about this, and think it's a rather serious issue. Has anyone else ever bothered to use spamd with virtual users? I'd fix this myself, but there's obviously some confusion as to what spamd is SUPPOSED to be doing. This is different than the virtual-config in that my vi

[SAtalk] spam archive?

2002-10-28 Thread Chris Fortune
I remember somebody posted an archive of collected spam emails a couple of weeks ago.  URL?

[SAtalk] Re: amavisd-new && SA w/mysql

2002-10-28 Thread dogface
hello, i have most of it working. i only have this one small problem. ill paste it from the email i sent the amavisd list... -- hello, there is a new problem. running amavisd-new20020630 with the sql lookups, it gets most of the way through and i get this error message. amavisd[2117]: (0211

[SAtalk] auto-reply for spam mail using procmail

2002-10-28 Thread Chad Sorrell
Does anyone have a procmail snippet that auto-replies to sender of spam notifying them that their email was filtered? Thanks, Chadwick L. Sorrell --- This sf.net email is sponsored by:ThinkGeek Welcome to geek heaven. http://thinkgeek.com/

RE: [SAtalk] How do I redirect spam to /dev/null or other null e-mail account

2002-10-28 Thread Steve Thomas
If you're using procmail, you'd use a recipe like one of these: # to catch everything above your default threshhold :0 * ^x-spam-status: yes /dev/null # to catch everything over a specified threshhold # (number of stars to indicate the minimum score # you want thrown out. this example would dump

Re: [SAtalk] How do I redirect spam to /dev/null or other null e-mail account

2002-10-28 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Mon, Oct 28, 2002 at 12:48:31PM -0800, Vincent A. Palmieri wrote: > Now after running SpamAssassin for a period of time, I would like for > the spam to be directed straight to /dev/null what is the method to do > so? I wouldn't do that (no way to retrieve false positives), but you can tell proc

[SAtalk] How do I redirect spam to /dev/null or other null e-mail account

2002-10-28 Thread Vincent A. Palmieri
Now after running SpamAssassin for a period of time, I would like for the spam to be directed straight to /dev/null what is the method to do so?        

RE: [SAtalk] What should I report to Razor[2] or similar

2002-10-28 Thread Jan Korger
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 28 Oct 2002, Tony Hoyle wrote: > > Besides, do you > > guys consider those "news[letters]" or "promotions" or "special offer" > > mailings sent by companies selling via the net spam. I'm > > thinking of the > > emails from promotion?@amazon.co

Re: [SAtalk] Re: amavisd-new && SA w/mysql

2002-10-28 Thread Ted Cabeen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Ted Cabeen writes: >In message <007e01c27e9e$67ae6490$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "dogface" writes: >>im using the php-sa-mysql as an interface >>for the users to set their prefrences.

Re: [SAtalk] new install gives error: undefined symbol:Perl_safemalloc

2002-10-28 Thread Jason Kohles
On Mon, 2002-10-28 at 13:56, Skip Frizzell wrote: > Hello, > > I just did a new install of SpamAssassin and several of the optional modules. I > also upgraded from Perl 5.6.1 to 5.8.0 in order to keep current. > > the install went successfully, but when I run the tests at the end I get the > foll

Re: [SAtalk] new install gives error: undefined symbol:Perl_safemalloc

2002-10-28 Thread Larry Rosenman
On Mon, 2002-10-28 at 12:56, Skip Frizzell wrote: > Hello, > > I just did a new install of SpamAssassin and several of the optional modules. I > also upgraded from Perl 5.6.1 to 5.8.0 in order to keep current. > > the install went successfully, but when I run the tests at the end I get the > foll

Re: [SAtalk] Re: amavisd-new && SA w/mysql

2002-10-28 Thread Ted Cabeen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii In message <007e01c27e9e$67ae6490$[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "dogface" writes: >im using the php-sa-mysql as an interface >for the users to set their prefrences. so, i need >the amavisd-new to either not send the ma

Re: [SAtalk] new install gives error: undefined symbol: Perl_safemalloc

2002-10-28 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Mon, Oct 28, 2002 at 01:56:38PM -0500, Skip Frizzell wrote: > # spamassassin -t < sample-nonspam.txt > nonspam.out > /usr/local/bin/perl: relocation error: > /usr/local/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.6.1/i686-linux/auto/Digest/SHA1/SHA1.so: undefined > symbol: Perl_safemalloc > > Does anyone know what I

[SAtalk] local.cf selectively being read

2002-10-28 Thread Ray Dzek
I have set up SA on a RedHat 7.3 server running spamc/spamd via Postfix using a hacked up version of the Anomy filter.sh script at: http://www.advosys.ca/papers/postfix-filtering.html Basically I didn't like the Anomy defanger, so I stripped that part out the the filter.sh and changed it so it wou

[SAtalk] new install gives error: undefined symbol: Perl_safemalloc

2002-10-28 Thread Skip Frizzell
Hello, I just did a new install of SpamAssassin and several of the optional modules. I also upgraded from Perl 5.6.1 to 5.8.0 in order to keep current. the install went successfully, but when I run the tests at the end I get the following error: # spamassassin -t < sample-nonspam.txt > nonspam.o

Re: [SAtalk] AWL broken in 2.43?

2002-10-28 Thread Matt Kettler
Well, this sounds reasonable, unfortunately I suspect it would be rather difficult and kludgey for the AWL to be able to tell the difference. The AWL operates as a score averager, nothing more, nothing less. Personally, I think the AWL is in general a fundamentally broken concept, however there

[SAtalk] 2.43 upgrade oddities

2002-10-28 Thread Daniel Johnson
Just upgraded to SA 2.43 from 1.6 (I knowreally out of date). Noticed a couple of odd things. We're running spamd and calling spamc (with -f) from qmail-scanner version 1.12.. Looking through the logs it appears that everything is working perfectly. Here's the first oddity. Mail from out

[SAtalk] Re: amavisd-new && SA w/mysql

2002-10-28 Thread Mark Martinec
Eric, | im using the php-sa-mysql as an interface | for the users to set their prefrences. so, i need | the amavisd-new to either not send the mail to | SA so i can set the SA to use the sql lookup or | have the amavisd-new to send the mail to SA | With the sql lookups enabled. ... | ok. i reread

RE: [SAtalk] simple question

2002-10-28 Thread John Hally
Thanks Theo. I'm looking to do it at the sendmail server for all users, is there something that would go in the sa-mimedefang.cf file? Thanks again. -Original Message- From: Theo Van Dinter [mailto:felicity@;kluge.net] Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 11:25 AM To: John Hally Cc: '[EMAIL PR

Re: [SAtalk] Spam in the (sort of) news

2002-10-28 Thread Bob Proulx
Daniel Quinlan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002-10-28 07:53:14 -0800]: > Tony Hoyle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > 'Biff'? > > "biff" is the Unix program that does the equivalant of "you've got > mail" (see google for more information like why "biff" is the name). > I just thought it was a nice touch

Re: [SAtalk] simple question

2002-10-28 Thread Theo Van Dinter
On Mon, Oct 28, 2002 at 08:10:47AM -0500, John Hally wrote: > I am very new to spamassassin and have what's probably a simple question. > How do I drop mail based on the subject title? It looks like th white/black > lists are only for to/from, but is there a way to add a subject to the lists > as

[SAtalk] Re: amavisd-new && SA w/mysql

2002-10-28 Thread dogface
im using the php-sa-mysql as an interface for the users to set their prefrences. so, i need the amavisd-new to either not send the mail to SA so i can set the SA to use the sql lookup or have the amavisd-new to send the mail to SA With the sql lookups enabled. ahhh, i looked at the logs again. th

RE: [SAtalk] MailScanner vs Milter installation

2002-10-28 Thread Rose, Bobby
Do you monitor the mailscanner lists? V4 was released which was rewritten from the ground up and you can multiple processes of Mailscanner running. It is much faster. I think it's also a matter of perception. In the case of a milter, you still have only one sendmail process handling incoming ma

RE: [SAtalk] Spam in the (sort of) news

2002-10-28 Thread Daniel Quinlan
Tony Hoyle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > 'Biff'? "biff" is the Unix program that does the equivalant of "you've got mail" (see google for more information like why "biff" is the name). I just thought it was a nice touch. Dan --- This sf.net e

[SAtalk] Re: amavisd-new && SA w/mysql

2002-10-28 Thread Mark Martinec
Eric, | ok. i thought that would be the right | route to go with. ill recompile the amavisd-new | without the SA option. then ill have amavisd-new | send it to procmail then have the procmail send it to | the spamassassin with the mysql option. | | i was already using the amavisd-new-20020517 | s

RE: [SAtalk] What should I report to Razor[2] or similar

2002-10-28 Thread Tony Hoyle
> -Original Message- > From: Jan Korger [mailto:jan@;korger.de] > Sent: 27 October 2002 21:15 > To: SpamAssassin ML > Subject: [SAtalk] What should I report to Razor[2] or similar > > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi, > > I wonder what messages are supposed to be

RE: [SAtalk] Spam in the (sort of) news

2002-10-28 Thread Tony Hoyle
> -Original Message- > From: Daniel Quinlan [mailto:quinlan@;pathname.com] > Sent: 28 October 2002 08:02 > To: Daniel Rogers > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [SAtalk] Spam in the (sort of) news > > Note the small word in the upper right corner of the bottom left > frame. :-) > 'Biff

[SAtalk] simple question

2002-10-28 Thread John Hally
Hello, I am very new to spamassassin and have what's probably a simple question. How do I drop mail based on the subject title? It looks like th white/black lists are only for to/from, but is there a way to add a subject to the lists as well? Thanks in advance. John Hally --

[SAtalk] AWL broken in 2.43?

2002-10-28 Thread Tony Hoyle
Over the last week I've started receiving more and more spam with negative scores due to the AWL. About half an hour ago I reset the AWL be sure (I also did this when installing 2.43). check_whitelist is already showing the AWL whitelisting spam: tmh@betty:~/spamassassin-2.41/tools$ ./check_whit

Re: [SAtalk] How do I change the link in the body of the SPAM text

2002-10-28 Thread Daniel Quinlan
"Pal Computer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Howdo I change the Body message as I want to direct our users to our > own antispam home page and not http://www.spamassasin.org/tag? > > We will post our anti-spam policy and such at our own link, to avoid > phone calls to explain the * SPAM ***

Re: [SAtalk] Spam in the (sort of) news

2002-10-28 Thread Daniel Quinlan
Daniel Rogers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Today's Doonesbury... > > http://images.ucomics.com/comics/db/2002/db021027.gif Note the small word in the upper right corner of the bottom left frame. :-) Dan -- Daniel Quinlan Linux, open source, and http://www.pathname.com/~