It's easier for me to just download the new binary than to try to fix
this, but for development purposes the following messages may be
useful:
sage: An error occurred while installing ntl-5.4.1.p10
Please email sage-devel http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel
explaining the problem and send t
On Jan 29, 10:29 pm, "William Stein" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Jan 29, 2008 4:45 PM, Hector Villafuerte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jan 29, 2008 12:18 PM, Georg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > > Hi,
> > > is there a way so that
> > > 0^0
> > > yields 1.
> > > thanks in advance
rror evaluating "log(0)":
Error executing code in Maxima
CODE:
log(0);
Maxima ERROR:
log(0) has been generated.
Presumably log(0) should provide a more helpful (and much shorter)
error message. And what does this phrase, "log(0) has been
generated," mean?
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not just in the breach. If we can
do this, for the first time a totally free option which supports
mathematics in pedagogically sound ways all the way from arithmetic
and geometry to arithmetic geometry will exist, with huge benefits for
anyone who cares about more than one level of mathemati
arch
or internals developers, even if they aren't as competent, Sage should
easily be able to surpass the competition in that arena as well.
Thanks as always for a fantastic product, and thanks for the continued
invigorating discussion. (No irony intended!)
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Is this worth trying to implement, or even possible to consider
implementing (I realize the grep-ish behavior might be too complicated
to bother with)? I am sure there are mistakes in the pseudo-code
above, for that matter. But if so, I would like to try.
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screens and projection, and here is what she said, if it helps make a
decision.
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I like the light pink the best. The red is a little dark and makes it
hard to read the black lettering
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/03/080313124415.htm
Just curious - sounds similar to the E8, and since William and massive
computer time are both mentioned, sounds like a likely spot for
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Anyway, nice to see it getting play on the MAA website as well, where
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ng. The idea that a "point" lattice (and hence Euclidean
lattice) is a special case of a "poset" lattice is interesting, though
I don't see how would that work for the cocompact definition or for
unordered fields...
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http://mathworld.wolfram.com/PointLattice.h
ne does not have
xdvi installed? Sort of like show() uses the default .png viewer,
maybe is there a way to use a default .dvi viewer, if such a thing
exists. This would be the case in OSX if one hasn't installed it via
Fink or some other way (and woul
our patch did have anything directly
to do with it - it just caused me to wonder whether things were
exactly what you confirmed them to be - thanks!
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on't be a spoiler on
that. I barely got the chance to meet many now-familiar names at the
San Diego ones, so I hope to see many of you there!
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blem is I have no idea what to
use for ??, because unfortunately i/2 lives in Symbolic Ring, not in
CC, so I can't just put in ??=parent(i/2). It would sort of be beside
of the point of making Sage easier to use in the linear algebra
classroom if we had to explicitly type CC(i/2) e
> I'm not sure I understand the problem. Here is an example session in
> Sage 3.0.1. Can you change this to illustrate what you mean?
>
Sorry, Jason, the example was sort of buried in my post. Here is a
concise version.
sage: A=matrix(QQ,3,range(9))
sage: A
[0 1 2]
[3 4 5]
[6 7 8]
sage: A.r
ring (e.g., one
couldn't scale a row of a matrix over QQ by I or \sqrt{2}).
Thanks for any feedback.
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Another +1, this is the best solution I've heard so far.
>
> - Robert
Unless someone continues this thread, I will assume that this idea
carries the day in finishing work on this ticket (which may now take a
bit longer). Thanks very much for the input.
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automatically do the second? Just curious, as I've tried several
different "point-and-click" options and they all have some issue like
this; I'm definitely not saying that a way to do this actually exists,
or that if it exists it might not be really hard.
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27;ve been using
command line only for a while now, I can't remember whether there is a
"bug reports" top-level thing, which there may be.
On the other hand, making this prominent says, "we want bug reports"
loud and clear. Or does it say, "buggy software&quo
I haven't seen it in a fairly exhaustive sage-
support search)? We would obviously prefer if yes, but even if not,
then at least we can prepare for this properly and not send students
on wild goose chases for their data.
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Trashing, etc., which is universal), but it still gives me pause.
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his one already exists; I couldn't find it
anywhere on the trac.
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't the only one!
> (but please make it small
> and not very distracting).
Yes, the request for small font is in the trac ticket.
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ics, won't render properly in Safari 3.1.2, as the page points
out.
I particularly like the possibility of using this to draw a graph of
sin(x) in a text box under a Sage-generated graph of sin(x) in a
cell... actually, I don't know if I like that or not, but it does h
destroying something.
Thanks, if this is an okay suggestion,
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Builds fine in real time 349m6.025s on PPC OSX.4
Same "problem", fixed by moving init.sage.
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in this, a patch is up for review at
http://trac.sagemath.org/sage_trac/ticket/4177
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time ever using Sage, I don't have to wait for a
variable! It is also nice to not see that "Exiting spawned Maxima
process." message. So thank you to Burcin and the rest involved in
this.
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Examples:
Using old variables in 3.2.alpha0 works fine:
sage: var('x,y,z'
> If you wrap it in a python function, for now, you can get the functionality
> you want:
> It might exist only in our heads :-) But there is actually a file
> todo.txt that is here in sage-3.2.*:
>
> devel/sage/sage/symbolic/todo.txt
>
Both answers are very helpful
> By the way, I wish the queues *were* exposed via the hg_sage.*
> interface.
+1 to this, and that the documentation for it on the Wiki compared
things to action under the 'usual' commands, or that documentation for
it was under the Programmer'
any students to use it.
Well, maybe that's a stretch for me to claim? I'm not sure, honestly,
but ... it's just that computer mathematics systems are pedantic
enough as it is - for obvious reasons, but with too much of it I would
rather teach 1900-style and have them learn to visualize
I think Sage has done a pretty good job balancing these things,
as someone else said earlier in the thread.
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phone. In case you have that need sometimes.
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I get a lot of this:
warning can't open dynamic library: libpari-gmp.dylib referenced
from: /Users/.../sage-3.4.2.alpha0/local/lib/libcsage.dylib (checking
for undefined symbols may be affected) (No such file or directory,
errno = 2)
Hope it helps,
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recently here, my apologies.
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http://news.cnet.com/8301-11386_3-10229202-76.html?tag=newsLeadStoriesArea.1
http://bits.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/04
> Is it just me?
No, I get the same thing right now.
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ady been reviewed.
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Upgrades fine from 3.4.2.alpha0 on G4 PPC OSX.4.
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e fairly arbitrary but
consistent::sage: cmp(SR(3), x) #random due to
architecture dependence-1sage: cmp(x, SR(3))
#random due to architecture dependence1"""
so perhaps it's not a Maxima thing but a symbolic comparison thing.
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As for throwing an error, probably that should be done Sage-wide for
things that don't make sense, not piecemeal. At least I don't feel
comfortable opening that can of worms!
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does not from this standpoint - or has a different implementation
since been added? Also, there are some licensing issues probably,
just from perusing the relevant websites mentioned on that ticket.
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to address that til at least Monday.
HTH,
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Just FYI, Bressoud and Wagon's Computational Number Theory book has a
more elementary (and very readable) account of this type of formula -
starting with Legendre and going through Meissel and Lehmer, from
around page 130 to page 140 - including fairly explicit implementation
ideas.
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by 50 messages on this in my RSS reader at once.
If there isn't a consensus (and it seems there is not) then please
don't reply, and I will go along with Rob B. and publish whatever Sage
worksheets I want to under whatever license I deem appropriate, if
any.
ons, but I would much
prefer == if possible. Incidentally, sage -coverage does not complain
about the current H=loads(dumps(G)) test.
Thanks,
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stuff with current loads(dumps()) behavior,
since it is already in two of the plot files.
Thanks for any other input,
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ut what a "derived" work that "links" is, and these
are not necessarily well-defined terms, at least judging by this
thread's length :)
Just putting it out there,
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hich is a good resource to have freely available, kudos to Wolfram
for that. But it doesn't look like it is even close to free
Mathematica notebook usage, either in having full capabilities (yet)
or in being able to structure things, write programs etc.
For what it's worth,
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On May 21, 7:25 am, Pablo Angulo wrote:
> > You are correct. Right now one can't do what you want with controls.
> > It would
> > be possible for us to implement it though. How wo
:
Exiting SAGE (CPU time 0m0.25s, Wall time 0m17.31s).
Exiting spawned Maxima process.
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On May 21, 1:59 pm, Jaap Spies wrote:
> mabshoff wrote:
> > Hi,
>
> > I gotta run to the airport, but sources and upgrade bits of 4.0.rc0
> > are in
>
> > http://sage.
under a separate heading, or maybe the
example on the front page could be modified...)
Sorry again for not realizing that had been merged; it's a great
addition.
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Also, in functional.py line 297 it should probably be "allows more
limits to be calculated", not "allows more integrals to be
calculated". I think this occurs both places this docstring exists,
so it is likely from before the sw
expression
self.integral, so it's not like the code is unused, but somewhere it
seems like there is redundancy here, and I figured this was worth
pointing out, even though I am not sure which one should be considered
redundant.
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circumstances where this is also less practical. Is there a way to
run the docbuild just on one file/one set of files?
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sure, again can't replicate) everything
since your last save/the last time TinyMCE could handle it is appended
in REVERSE order at the bottom of the worksheet - check it out! I
hope this helps Jason or someone else replicate it.
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have a new (2nd) Sage cell below your second text. This is
reproducible, though I'm not sure it's a bug.
3. If you click on a text area too many times in a row before it saves
(again, not c
ctest.
However, there are plenty of well-documented underscored functions in
Sage, so that is not the problem per se. Also, it appears you are
using a global Sage install, but I have no idea whether that would
affect anything.
Hope this helps, but it like
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work, Minh!
By the way, the release notes for 3.0.3 never happened, but they do
exist (somewhere) on sage-devel if you go through them enough (as I
had to once), so if you are looking for something to occupy a half-
hour (!) you could add
erivatives even
in case (a)(1) (or even Leibniz notation at all?), or is it only in
the case (b) "when the argument is an expression"? Thanks for the
clarification.
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but it's not included in
http://sage.math.washington.edu/home/mvngu/doc/changelog/HISTORY.txt
:) That's all I'm saying. Thanks again for the hard work.
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statement is of the plot3d version. However, I thought I would ask
before opening a ticket to remove the (presumptively) older one - any
comments?
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Compiled fine on OSX.4 G4 PPC.
There were a lot of warnings in Sphinx at the very end about duplicate
references within the English tutorial, usually with bibliography.rst.
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the patches to 4.1.alpha0 and see why/
> if they failed. Tom and I will eventually do this, but it would be
> helpful for people involved in the ticket to get things started:
Is there an -upgrade location to go to?
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(disc.)?
HIH,
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A related page to look at would be
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_computer_algebra_systems
Note that Mma is declared there to be "ubiquitous" while Maple only
notes its libraries' sources are viewable. Our friends at Axiom even
link from there to a vid
>
> Is there an -upgrade location to go to?
If the answer is no for the foreseeable future, that's
understandable. Just asking!
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building it), e.g. sage-4.1.alpha1/doc/output/html/
en/reference/_sources/sage/rings/laurent_series_ring_element.txt
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Thanks for that explanation, gsw. I feel like I have a better sense
of why that happened so often in class!
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On Jun 25, 4:10 pm, gsw wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I suspect you're just running out of RAM.
> Not necessarily physically, but the construction Sage --> expect
&g
Built fine on G4 OSX.4.
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st me
(4.1.alpha1 fresh build on G4 X.4)? Is GAP running in the
background? But when I quit, there is no message about that, and in
any case presumably GAP doesn't do the codebase search.
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been unresolved
for a year and a half!
More concretely, one problem is that plot/axes.py is not very well
documented. However, you might want to look at _tasteful_ticks and
_draw_axes_labels. Or you might want to try to finish # 5448. :)
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> On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 2:26 PM, kcrisman wrote:
>
> > In trying to find out what was going on in another post, I tried e.g.
>
> > sage: search_src("cannot;")
> > find: -exec: no terminating ";"
>
>
predict just how slope-y "naturally occurring" functions should be.
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someone do something - maybe import_patch relies on
something in Python 2.5 which is now deprecated?
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e.g. plot(1/x,0,1) would randomize
between 0 and 1 but not plot outside that range, for the very good
reason you mention.
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ing #6421 or for other
reasons? My inclination would be to have Sage's arctan2 simply call
math.atan2 or something else, but at any rate to be consistent.
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be executed from the directory from which
find was
executed. Utility and arguments are not subject to the
further
expansion of shell patterns and constructs.
but I don't know where find is used here. Does grep call find? (That
is obviously a shell newbie question, apologies.
t "cannot" fails at all.
I get the same result no matter what I put in. Even
sage: search_src("p-adics")
find: -exec: no terminating ";"
though in 4.0.1 that gets a page of hits.
I'm really sorry this is so weir
On Jun 26, 10:53 am, kcrisman wrote:
> > ipdb> print ex
> > arctan2(real_part(y) + imag_part(x), real_part(x) - imag_part(y))
>
> > Both of these fail because Sage doesn't define a symbolic arctan2
> > function. There is instead a simple wrapper around a
es anyone know whether the
> 'find' command changed from OS X 10.4 to 10.5?)
/usr/bin/find
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it would end up looking typeset. For comparison, try
sage: plot(2^(20*x),(x,10,50))
which seems to be about as much as float can handle (e+300, about); it
can cut off the left-hand part of the numbers.
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On Jun 26, 2:24 pm, John H Palmieri wrote:
> On Jun 26, 10:33 am, kcrisman wrote:
>
> > > > I'm really sorry this is so weird. This is OSX.4 on a PPC, so perhaps
> > > > something got changed in those scripts recently?
>
> > > Yes, it got change
See # 5649.
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ssume Sage won't have any problems
running on this as well (as opposed to in the cloud)? Linux + new
windowing system sounds ok, but figured I'd ask...
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T) created by Microsoft's WEFT tool
That seems less than desirable, but maybe it's okay?
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> > At long last, the Mozilla team has heard the voice of reason, and
> > allows the browser to download fonts! This means no more jsmath
> > warning! Next week, I'm
tally.
We were lucky because our admin is also a faculty member who is
interested in open source solutions, but our ed IT department is very
reluctant to have anything to do with it.
This problem would potentially be much larger in the secondary ed
market, but I
e talk a few times, just
> to make sure the talk really worked.
Yes, yes, yes! This whole post is full of great comments. Should be
required reading for those using Sage in lectures or more general
venues.
(You mean deleting all output cells, though.)
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>
> Using Evaluate All b
ould be great to have the .app
standard distribution for binaries when Snow Leopard comes out - as
well as to have it on the Mac downloads page - if it isn't already.
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On Jul 21, 4:52 pm, Marshall Hampton wrote:
> I would think that is what most people would want.
>
> -Marshall
>
> On Jul 21, 3:42 pm, Robert Bradshaw
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jul 21, 2009, at 1:34 PM, gsw wrote:
&g
Dear John,
Unfortunately, this is the support list for the mathematics software
Sage (http://www.sagemath.org), not the accounting software Sage.
There seems to be some support at
http://www.sagenorthamerica.com/support_training/
but that's the best we can direct you. Good luck!
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there any potential for (benign, hopefully, but still) conflict
with the various other Sages out there when it comes to this?
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technical question is how
easy can it be set up and administered. This is where the "sage in
a
box" idea could be very appealing.
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On Jul 24, 11:20 am, Harald Schilly wrote:
> On Jul 24, 4:56 pm, kcrisman wrote:
>
> > > * Do new employees get the keys to the house on their first day?
>
> > > Not applicable.
>
> > It's worth pointing out here, although it's not the point the
ng quite well! - but at
any rate we have to be aware if any vital upstream project is in a
position for something like this to happen.
But in general, long live Sage!
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T
ular conjectured that 1/p has repeating decimal of length p-1
for infinitely many p, which (if true) would prove the Artin
conjecture with n=10 (i.e., 10 is a primitive root for infinitely many
p). I think I have that right :)
- kcrisman
On Jul 31, 7:06 am, Minh Nguyen wrote:
> Hi David,
&
I think is what David was
getting at). There are ways to get cosets in GAP, of course (maybe
wrapped in Sage?) but I don't know much about them.
I hope this helps!
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>
> > Where do the 5 and 6 suddenly come from? In my understanding the
> > elements of the quotient grou
least by wrapping) but also
hopefully allow for more new features as people like e.g. me (no
comma!) who don't know much matplotlib to get accustomed to it and
expose useful things for Sage.
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be going that way anytime soon, and perhaps
shouldn't have such semantic interpretation skills, but seems
interesting nonetheless.
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resolved).
Your work on symbolics is impressive and valuable, Golam - keep it up!
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