Re: [RE-wrenches] useful info on wire color coding

2010-08-23 Thread R Ray Walters
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but to summarize this issue: 1) code requires clockwise phase rotation in Panel boards, and AC disconnects, 2) even though it's not code required, it is good practice to tape those wires black, red, blue, again left to right or clockwise. (as long as you're in the

Re: [RE-wrenches] Inverter for fire protection pump

2010-08-27 Thread R Ray Walters
Little beyond a pair of Outbacks, possibly a pair of Magnasine inverters, or a quad stack of Outbacks. R. Walters r...@solarray.com Solar Engineer On Aug 26, 2010, at 2:41 PM, Joel Davidson wrote: > Wrenches, > Our customer has a fire protection pumping system that operates at 240VAC and >

Re: [RE-wrenches] Inverter for fire protection pump

2010-08-27 Thread R Ray Walters
3:52 PM, R Ray Walters wrote: > Little beyond a pair of Outbacks, possibly a pair of Magnasine inverters, or > a quad stack of Outbacks. > > R. Walters > r...@solarray.com > Solar Engineer > > > > > On Aug 26, 2010, at 2:41 PM, Joel Davidson wrote: > >

Re: [RE-wrenches] Inverter for fire protection pump

2010-08-29 Thread R Ray Walters
To: "RE-wrenches" >> Date: Friday, August 27, 2010, 9:50 PM >> Hi Ray, >> >> Thank you for your input. The pump is part of a fire >> protection system that sucks water out of the swimming pool >> and pumps it to roof sprinklers with fire retardant

Re: [RE-wrenches] Arc flash concerns

2010-09-01 Thread R Ray Walters
Oh boy, just when we thought all we had to worry about was getting electrocuted or falling off a roof. The cooked dummy at the end of the last video is a very serious reminder. Besides the arc flash gear, are there other things we should be watching for to prevent this from happening? (we definit

Re: [RE-wrenches] Delta LA's

2010-09-02 Thread R Ray Walters
I know, as Bill pointed out, that the Deltas are supposed to be mounted on the exterior to allow the damage to stay outside of the combiner box. But I've also seen a lot of old Deltas damaged by the sun, and seen them cracked off at the 1/2" nipple attachment point, which then leaves exposed THH

Re: [RE-wrenches] Apparent Micro Inverters

2010-09-04 Thread R Ray Walters
If its a large commercial array, I would consider using larger centralized inverters, and then monitor with National Semiconductor's Solar magic monitoring system. It has string level current taps, so (theoretically at least) you could see a single module failure by the reduced string output. I

Re: [RE-wrenches] Wiley Asset

2010-09-08 Thread R Ray Walters
I've used the Pathfinder for decades, so I'm partial to them. Great for on-site discussions of shading issues with the customer, as multiple people can see the shading at the same time on the spot. I've also used their Assistant software, and it works pretty well. You take a photo of the actual

Re: [RE-wrenches] Wiley Asset

2010-09-08 Thread R Ray Walters
The problem with all shading analysis tools I've used, is that they can't take into account the effects partial shading has on string performance. You have to calculate that separately, based on how you'll be wiring the strings. 2nd, I know that usually power lines (if far enough away) won't have

Re: [RE-wrenches] 48v small controllers

2010-09-11 Thread R Ray Walters
The nice folks at BZ Products have made me small custom voltage controllers before, for just that application. Prices, as I recall were less than a C40, and much smaller footprint/ weight, which is an issue on a mobile application. R. Walters r...@solarray.com Solar Engineer On Sep 10, 2010

Re: [RE-wrenches] 48v small controllers

2010-09-12 Thread R Ray Walters
eally want a sealed unit as this will be on > a vehicle and possibly get wet. > > thx, > > jay > > Peltz Power > > > On Sep 11, 2010, at 7:45 PM, R Ray Walters wrote: > >> The nice folks at BZ Products have made me small custom voltage controllers >

Re: [RE-wrenches] The Demise of WEEB

2010-09-12 Thread R Ray Walters
A picture is worth a thousand words, (hopefully this will upload) Here's a traditional Ilsco Lug after less than 5 years near the ocean: <> IMHO, this is a galvanic reaction between the Cu, Al, and (our loser) the Lug which became the anode. No other corrosion was near this state of deterioration

Re: [RE-wrenches] The Demise of WEEB

2010-09-13 Thread R Ray Walters
; > Peter T. Parrish, Ph.D., President > California Solar Engineering, Inc. > 820 Cynthia Ave., Los Angeles, CA 90065 > CA Lic. 854779, NABCEP Cert. 031806-26 > peter.parr...@calsolareng.com > Ph 323-258-8883, Mobile 323-839-6108, Fax 323-258-8885 > > > > -Original Mes

Re: [RE-wrenches] The Demise of Reason

2010-09-13 Thread R Ray Walters
cking plate. Is this also a voltage issue, for arrays over 250 v? I'm sure I'm missing something. I recall you once saying that UL doesn't even use the grounding hole when testing modules, that they just clamped an alligator clip to the frame? Thanks for giving us the "NEC and

[RE-wrenches] Array Grounding Ailments (was WEEB)

2010-09-13 Thread R Ray Walters
September 12, 2010 6:50 pm > To: "'RE-wrenches'" > > Are you sure that's a ILSCO GBL-4DBT lug? I am pretty sure the set screw is > not SS, which it should be to be the genuine part. > > - Peter > > > Peter T. Parrish, Ph.D., President > Ca

[RE-wrenches] Array Grounding (was WEEB)

2010-09-14 Thread R Ray Walters
Maybe this should be on the NABCEP test. R. Walters On Sep 13, 2010, at 8:04 PM, benn kilburn wrote: > Hopefully any crew installing PV, and familiar with this debate (which they > should be) can easily distinguish between the GBL-4 and the GBL-4DBT. The > weight difference is quite noticeabl

Re: [RE-wrenches] Delta LAs

2010-09-14 Thread R Ray Walters
You could buy several ground rods for the cost of one Delta. Ground Impedance is the real issue. Both the Delta and the Polyphasor need a good ground to work. While I haven't seen much of a correlation between Deltas and reduced lightning damage, (lots of system damage with and without) I have fo

Re: [RE-wrenches] GEC for Enphase inverters

2010-09-14 Thread R Ray Walters
HI BIll; I'm still slightly confused: I think you are saying that the #8 can go straight to the service panel grounding buss? (as per 690.47(C)6&8) What about 690.47 (D) that requires an array ground to go to a supplemental electrode installed "as close as practicable to the array." For

Re: [RE-wrenches] GEC for Enphase inverters

2010-09-14 Thread R Ray Walters
It seems to me that William's original question of where does the EGC stop, and the GEC begin, all depends on whether the Enphase inverters bond negative to ground internally. Did we ever get an answer from Enphase? If they don't, then I think by definition in article 100, we would only have an

Re: [RE-wrenches] Delta LAs

2010-09-14 Thread R Ray Walters
My own limited field experience in lightning country (New Mexico, Colorado, Wyoming, Texas, Oklahoma), has definitely proven your point. Grounding and testing of the grounding system is the first line of attack against lightning. Also, showing an insurance company (and the customer) ground impeda

Re: [RE-wrenches] Lightning protection (was Delta LA's)

2010-09-14 Thread R Ray Walters
grid measurements. R. Walters On Sep 14, 2010, at 8:04 PM, Dave Palumbo wrote: > What Ray Walters said was the truth. Resistance to ground should be very low. > How many dollars is that tester you use Ray? We don’t own one. On the wish

Re: [RE-wrenches] Lightning protection (was Delta LA's)

2010-09-15 Thread R Ray Walters
ween them? Also what is the lowest Ohm reading your DGC > 1000 meter can read? > Thanks > > --- On Wed, 9/15/10, R Ray Walters wrote: > > From: R Ray Walters > Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Lightning protection (was Delta LA's) > To: "RE-wrenches" >

Re: [RE-wrenches] PV Module Match Question

2010-09-17 Thread R Ray Walters
HI Allan; I found the 175s play very well when mixed with the 165s on an MX 60. We've done it several times. What's interesting is that the Solarworlds often outperform their nameplate rating, I've seen the 165s close to the 175 numbers. Essentially they're all the same module, just flash tests

Re: [RE-wrenches] Protecting the Installer

2010-09-25 Thread R Ray Walters
I agree Nick, that's what the wrenches list is for: to protect our fellow wrenches and our customers. If Solar CIty is taking the business, they better be able to take the heat. I'm very concerned that they are not hiring experienced designers. They're about to give the whole industry a black ey

Re: [RE-wrenches] deadly fall off of roof

2010-09-25 Thread R Ray Walters
At one point at the top, he has both hands free, while he messes with the lanyard. At another point he "ties off" by just hooking the lanyard to the ladder rung, but its open on the side, allowing the hook to slide off the end. I'm glad you let us know that was "not an approved climbing method".

Re: [RE-wrenches] UL and Grid-tied Battery Back Up Systems

2010-10-07 Thread R Ray Walters
I take the generator concern one step further: We had a "solar dealer" selling Y2K generator specials that included a Male to Male extension cord! Just plug that bad boy into any outlet and fire the whole place (and the utility line) up. I confiscated one of these cables, and show it to new inspe

Re: [RE-wrenches] SolarWorld 245

2010-10-13 Thread R Ray Walters
My long field experience with Solarworld modules measured in conjunction with an irradiance meter, shows that they do consistently out perform their STC ratings. Of course that's not a "take it to the bank" lab test. I've also seen Sunpower outperform its STC ratings. R. Walters r...@solarray.c

Re: [RE-wrenches] Generator auto start

2010-10-15 Thread R Ray Walters
I still haven't found a substitute for the venerable SW series inverters from Trace/ Xantrex/ Schneider?. Even after the Outback inverters came out, I still used the SWs for autostart projects. Otherwise it was just too much hassle. 90% of my generator projects,though, I talked the customer into

Re: [RE-wrenches] BAKERSFIELD FIRE former "Target fire"

2010-10-19 Thread R Ray Walters
was under the impression that they had to have positive bonded to ground to function properly. Your proposed "Temporary Ground Lift" circuit would probably be the best way for Sunpower modules? Thanks for your always thorough education of us numb nuts in the field, Ray Walters >

Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery polarity check

2010-10-19 Thread R Ray Walters
I can confirm at least one reverse marked battery as well; another reason I hammer everyone on my projects to confirm polarity with a multimeter, and mark the wires as John Wiles has advocated: Red = Positive, Black = negative for ungrounded systems Red = positive, white = negative for neg ground

Re: [RE-wrenches] The perfect solar ready roof

2010-10-19 Thread R Ray Walters
Corrugated is really a pain to flash, but the ProPanel type roofing is really easy to work with. It has large (6 to 8"? wide) sections to put mounting feet down on. Only problem is if the rafter you need, ends up falling under a metal ridge. Snow slides off metal roofs all at once in big clumps,

Re: [RE-wrenches] BAKERSFIELD FIRE

2010-10-19 Thread R Ray Walters
rounded. This solves SunPower polarization issue and is the way many of > their systems are installed in Europe. > > Bill. > > From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org > [mailto:re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org] On Behalf Of R Ray Walters > Sent: Tuesday, Oc

Re: [RE-wrenches] paralleling FM-60's

2010-10-20 Thread R Ray Walters
Hi Jay; I'd second (3rd, 4th?) everyone else's comments that it probably isn't a good idea. I'd add that the diode will eat at least a volt, so that's not good for MPPT, or balancing. The one possible way to do this, might be to use a Vanner battery equalizer, which is designed to split an inco

Re: [RE-wrenches] paralleling FM-60's

2010-10-20 Thread R Ray Walters
;> >> the client may be willing to try and see how it goes with the controllers, >> at this point hes aware that it could blow up and its not a warranty issue. >> >> Will keep you up to date about what smokes or not. >> >> j >> >> peltz power &g

Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery Placement

2010-10-22 Thread R Ray Walters
Why does the side mounted breakers make the Midnite non compliant? Apparently I missed Robin's post on that. Or do I not want to know? Thanks, R. Walters r...@solarray.com Solar Engineer > . Midnite enclosures, with the breakers on the sides, are not compliant, as > Robin has acknowledged, but

Re: [RE-wrenches] The perfect solar ready roof

2010-10-22 Thread R Ray Walters
I agree with Phil's always excellent posts, except for the quote below. > On Oct 21, 2010, at 9:29 PM, Phil Undercuffler wrote: > >> risk splitting the top chord of the beam. If you split that, I would >> immediately stop what you're doing and consult with the I-beam manufacturer. >> Big lia

Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery cell shorting

2010-10-23 Thread R Ray Walters
Hi Nathan; I agree that too many strings can cause problems, as you mentioned, but I've seen 2 major problems with single battery strings, too: 1) A single cell failure, or corroded connection takes the entire system out of commission. 2) Most batteries do not have enough current to meet the s

Re: [RE-wrenches] 2011 NEC Code book with Handbook on CD ROM

2010-10-25 Thread R Ray Walters
How is the CD version for 2008? Is it easier to look stuff up (ie indexed better)? I've never tried anything but the hard copies. R. Walters r...@solarray.com Solar Engineer On Oct 25, 2010, at 12:06 PM, Matt Lafferty wrote: > Hi Drake, > > 2011 NEC is available now in Looseleaf (3-Ring bin

Re: [RE-wrenches] Protection against birds

2010-10-25 Thread R Ray Walters
I've worked on a couple of commercial projects where birds were trouble. On one, we would clean the array, and in less than a week, it would have crap all over it. Definitely dropped output. An owl decoy seemed to not have much effect. On another project, they had installed the high frequency sou

Re: [RE-wrenches] Need SDHW Flexible Tubing recommendation

2010-10-28 Thread R Ray Walters
HI Allan; I just recently used some flexible stainless steel line on an old radiator/ boiler system here. It had special fittings, that I was a little dubious of at first, but it all worked well, and was easy to install. I believe it was the Easy flex product. The only problem I encountered, was

Re: [RE-wrenches] Are Thick Plate Batteries Worth the Price?

2010-10-29 Thread R Ray Walters
The large batteries as everyone else noted are definitely the way to go on off grid systems. You are strengthening the weakest link. However, consider 2 parallel strings. I no longer consider a single string to be optimum, after having a large pump on a pair of Outback inverters cause low volta

Re: [RE-wrenches] warranty liabilities

2010-11-01 Thread R Ray Walters
Nick; How many of the failures are polycrystalline vs. mono? Both Solarex (then later BP) had failures of their poly stuff, are those the ones you are referring too? Photowatt comes to mind I've had my best luck though with the Made in USA monocrystalline. R. Walters r...@solarray.com Solar

Re: [RE-wrenches] Expected Life of DR2424

2010-11-03 Thread R Ray Walters
I've seen inverters do just fine under construction of the house. As long as it isn't being overloaded every day. As for bad connections, if the main DC connects aren't tight, you can get enough heat to melt the plastic insulators, and then it can short to the case. I can send you an ugly picture

Re: [RE-wrenches] low batteries with a sunny island

2010-11-17 Thread R Ray Walters
C40 charge controllers used to have that problem too; if battery voltage dropped so low that it didn't think it had a battery to charge, the whole system just sits there crashed, batteries sulfating, sun shining(customer stewing) I'd just charge them on a 12 v automotive charger, 2 at a

Re: [RE-wrenches] Strawbale wall penetration

2010-11-20 Thread R Ray Walters
I'd just be worried about the rebar blowing the plaster out, when it comes out the other side. We welded a drill bit to the end of the rebar. Once we're through with our rebar/ bit thing, we use diamond grit hole saws to make a clean hole in the plaster. I've been eyeing the Lenox carbide hole s

Re: [RE-wrenches] Seeking tool belt advice

2010-11-28 Thread R Ray Walters
HI Allan; I converted years ago to a single clip-on leather pouch from Texas hold um. This one pouch holds my needle nose, 9" line's man pliers, wire stripper/ crimper, 10" channel locks, dike cutter, utility knife, mini screw driver, and the Klein multi-tip screw driver. I found walking around

[RE-wrenches] Battery Cable REvistied

2010-11-29 Thread R Ray Walters
HI All; I have struggled for years to get the right battery cable; in the old, old days we used welding cable, which was better than THHN, but not with the AHJs. Then we used a SAE battery cable with 532 strands that was ideal, but not UL listed. Next we used Cobra X flex, but at over 2000 stran

Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery Cable REvistied

2010-11-30 Thread R Ray Walters
1 THHN to > go up into the SI batt terminals (two conductors per pole). > > In fact, I am wrapping up one of these installs right now. > > Don’t know if this helps, > > -Glenn > > -Original Message- > From: re-wrenches-boun...@lists.re-wrenches.org &g

Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery Cable REvistied

2010-11-30 Thread R Ray Walters
HI Mark; Where do you get the lead plated lugs? We used to special order tin plated lugs from Del City, but they quit carrying them. I found that the grease or vaseline coating was the most important issue, though. Tin plated lugs would corrode just like the unplated ones, except they first wou

Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery Cable REvistied

2010-11-30 Thread R Ray Walters
ulation on motor windings and frames. Sprays are available in > clear, red or black.” > > The local Home Depot carries it here, also some electrical distributors. > > > From: R Ray Walters > Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 9:26 AM > To: RE-wrenches > Subject: Re: [RE-

Re: [RE-wrenches] To insulate a battery bank DEPENDS on a lot of factors.

2010-12-14 Thread R Ray Walters
One AHJ actually got me on this with sealed batteries. I've blown the seal out overcharging a sealed battery too, so this is a real possibility. The venting requirements are not near as stringent though as for a flooded cell. Article 480 says we need to prevent the build up of explosive gases, w

Re: [RE-wrenches] To insulate a battery bank DEPENDS on a lot of factors.

2010-12-14 Thread R Ray Walters
I'll agree with you, Dana, although I think setting the batteries in the ground will help in more of the cases. Battery optimum temperature is actually lower than the standard test temp of 25C (77F). When you overlay the graph showing increased cycle life of batteries at lower temps with the ca

Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery based hydrogen incidents

2010-12-15 Thread R Ray Walters
I really think the real venting issue is H2S (hydrogen sulfide) gas, which is deadly at high enough concentrations, causes head aches at lower concentrations, and is just awful to smell at any concentration. I think you would have to literally design a battery box to explode to ever get to the 4

Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery based hydrogen incidents

2010-12-15 Thread R Ray Walters
(888) ON-SOLAR (US only) FAX: (530) 273-1760 > e-mail: <mailto:solar...@sierrasolar.com> > world wide web: <http://www.sierrasolar.com> > > > On Dec 15, 2010, at 10:48 AM, R Ray Walters wrote: > >> I really think the real venting issue is H2S (hydrogen su

Re: [RE-wrenches] Equalizing with SW inverter

2010-12-22 Thread R Ray Walters
I had so much trouble EQing with the SWs, that I just told the customers to bulk charge in the early AM with the genie, and then use the PV in the afternoon to reach EQ voltage, or temporarily set the bulk voltage higher in the normal SW charge mode to EQ. We don't EQ as much as some (twice a ye

Re: [RE-wrenches] Industrial battery chargers

2010-12-28 Thread R Ray Walters
Hey Chris; Thanks for the link, they have a charger I've been looking for for a long time: a selectable voltage portable unit. Front switch lets you select 24, 36, or 48 volt battery. R. Walters r...@solarray.com Solar Engineer On Dec 28, 2010, at 11:13 AM, Chris Schaefer wrote: > Larry, >

[RE-wrenches] Battery Freezing (was Trace...)

2010-12-29 Thread R Ray Walters
Jay; I've saved a few sets from freezing, different manufacturers' cases are stronger than others. (ie, A Trojan T105 can take more stress than something from Sam's Club.) FIrst I make sure they're less than 5 years old. Then, I warm them backup (portable propane heater, very well vented area, n

Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery Connection Voltage Drop?

2011-01-07 Thread R Ray Walters
I use volt drop under load, to find loose/ problem connections, but 2/100 of a volt drop could just be due to the resistance between his probes and the battery terminal. DId he take 3 to 5 readings, and then avg his readings to come up with his evaluation? If his reading was accurate, a .02 v

Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery Connection Voltage Drop?

2011-01-07 Thread R Ray Walters
I forgot to mention that an infared camera is a great way to find poor connections. Its a proven method on commercial panels, and I think it would work great for battery cabling too. Just put the system under full load for a few minutes, and the hot connections would show up quick. (of course j

Re: [RE-wrenches] 2011 NEC and impact in the field

2011-01-13 Thread R Ray Walters
I got my soft copy of NEC2011 at my electrical supply house for much cheaper than retail, and it came with a code to download the PDF version from online. I now have both, (searchable/ printable is great) but I don't know if I could burn it to a CD. R. Walters r...@solarray.com Solar Engineer

Re: [RE-wrenches] Working on DIY systems and Junkers

2011-01-13 Thread R Ray Walters
We've taken many of these on over the years: it can have a satisfying outcome, if the customer is really willing to pay to fix it. We don't even try to work with what's there; everything comes off the wall, and we rebuild the whole system using any decent parts that can be reused. Most customers

Re: [RE-wrenches] Generator for off grid

2011-01-25 Thread R Ray Walters
The Yamaha 2800 inverter generator is also a good choice, but only for small systems. I found them an ideal match for the mod sine DR inverters (especially the DR1500s) I've done a couple of propane conversions to these, but I can't recommend it. Worked fine, just by the time you're done, it is

Re: [RE-wrenches] "Keep that there PV off my grid!"

2011-02-16 Thread R Ray Walters
FIrst, if they're intertied with the rest of the US grid, they already have some of that Pesky wind and solar power on their grid. Seems to me that just some good old load data would show the PV output would never exceed the minimum daytime onsite usage. I'm guessing you would want to look at wee

Re: [RE-wrenches] grounding the Enphase inverter

2011-03-04 Thread R Ray Walters
Excellent post Mark. We spend way too much time as an industry worrying about these mundane grounding (and over grounding) issues, when there are very little actual safety issues involved. Meanwhile, we're missing the real safety problems. (recent commercial system fires??) I can't wait for our

Re: [RE-wrenches] Spot welding PV's to rails for theft prevention: bad idea?

2011-03-04 Thread R Ray Walters
From the bit of aluminum welding I've done (MIG not the preferred TIG) I'd say it would be pretty hard to do without damaging the laminate. I actually successfully welded attachments to salvage modules back in the 90s. Also the alloys are probably different between the module and rail, so even if

Re: [RE-wrenches] grounding the Enphase inverter

2011-03-07 Thread R Ray Walters
HI BIll; I follow you NEC logic here, and just needed a couple of clarifications: 1) Can we use smaller than #6 bare to connect to the inverters, as long as it was not exposed to physical damage? (ie. under the modules, in conduit) 2) for irreversible splices, are crimp lugs acceptable, or do we

Re: [RE-wrenches] Generators?

2011-03-16 Thread R Ray Walters
Hi Daryl; DId you AC couple it to the Outback AC output? or did you use the AC in on the Outback? I liked the little 1 Kw Yamahas for battery charging, but they are so small that if any loads come on in the house, the pass through loads will trip the Yamaha's overload circuit, and quit charging

Re: [RE-wrenches] wrenches] Generators?

2011-03-16 Thread R Ray Walters
y > house, replacing a Honda 2000i and sure do miss the fuel efficiency. > > > -Original Message- > From: R Ray Walters > To: RE-wrenches > Sent: Wed, Mar 16, 2011 4:46 pm > Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Generators? > > Hi Daryl; > > DId you AC couple

Re: [RE-wrenches] Electromagnetic Pulse (EMP)

2011-03-19 Thread R Ray Walters
Hi Drake; No, I don't have answers, just more of your same concerns. I had a high altitude (12,500 ft) installation damaged recently, possibly by a solar flare in Feb; we lost a C40 charge controller. At this point, I don't know if the flare was the cause or not, but I would expect more proble

Re: [RE-wrenches] Electromagnetic Pulse (EMP)

2011-03-19 Thread R Ray Walters
ional > New Mexico EE98J Journeyman Electrician > Positive Energy, Inc. > 3201 Calle Marie > Santa Fe, New Mexico 87507 > 505 424-1112 > www.positiveenergysolar.com > > > > > On 3/19/2011 11:48 AM, R Ray Walters wrote: >> >> Hi Drake; >> >> No,

Re: [RE-wrenches] Tall pole mount

2011-03-22 Thread R Ray Walters
I designed a pole mount for the US Forest Service that was 20 ft out of the ground. Its basically telescoping sections of pipe, welded together. The base was 8" Sch 80 for 10 ft, then 6" diam, and finished the last 6 ft in 4" diam. We used a massive footing with lots of rebar that was 8 ft below

Re: [RE-wrenches] Rail concerns (was: Top of POST mount)

2011-03-23 Thread R Ray Walters
I 2nd William's comment: the anti-seize is especially important on stainless bolts bigger than 1/4". The spalling effect with larger SS hardware has caused me to return to regular plated hardware, if the project isn't near the ocean, and just use SS washers when in contact with Aluminum. Having

Re: [RE-wrenches] Slow clocks

2011-04-06 Thread R Ray Walters
Personally, on grid or off, I like battery powered clocks. One 2 sec outage, and the clock gets reset. I tend to use the clock on my cell phone and computer mostly (automatic updates), My battery powered weather station even has a clock that is linked to the atomic clock system. I've actually

Re: [RE-wrenches] galvanized barn roofing

2011-04-07 Thread R Ray Walters
Interesting that it seems the industry is moving back to L-feet and sealant? Always worked for many situations. R. Walters r...@solarray.com Solar Engineer On Apr 7, 2011, at 7:11 PM, Andrew Truitt wrote: > > Here's the VersaBracket option from S-5!: > > http://www.s-5.com/clamps/index_71

Re: [RE-wrenches] SLDs with Mac

2011-04-09 Thread R Ray Walters
I've been running Parallels on a Mac for 3 years, and I just bought a PC for the PC stuff. I like my Mac, but after waiting 1/2 an hour to boot and update everything each time, Parallels is just really clunky. I like Omnigraffle on my Mac. way better than simpler drawing programs, but not near a

Re: [RE-wrenches] Pole Mounts - Frost/Conduit & Ledge

2011-04-16 Thread R Ray Walters
Hi Rich; 1) I never had a problem with conduit and frost heave, but then again, I haven't dug up all my work after 10 years either. 2) We did a mount exactly as you described, large slab with rebar into the rock at 45s, and bolt the pole to j bolts in the concrete. I can share our design drawing

Re: [RE-wrenches] balasted racks

2011-04-17 Thread R Ray Walters
Sunpower's modules with integral ballast are my current favorite for flat roof mounts. We make our own skid frames for ballasted ground mounts. R. Walters r...@solarray.com Solar Engineer On Apr 16, 2011, at 9:38 PM, Nick Vida wrote: > hey wrenches. > > i am looking at some ballasted racks.

Re: [RE-wrenches] Batteries in parrallel Failure

2011-04-19 Thread R Ray Walters
I like the fused parallel idea; could save the system, and would make battery troubleshooting nice. I would suggest #6 jumpers with 50 to 60 amp breakers, so the system could be operated on just a few strings if needed. R. Walters r...@solarray.com Solar Engineer On Apr 19, 2011, at 8:29 PM

Re: [RE-wrenches] Batteries in parrallel Failure

2011-04-20 Thread R Ray Walters
lete failure I > got the message pretty quick. > > Really guys, this is amazingly simple and yes, it may mean a bit more cabling > and another component but from a safety standpoint those considerations are > pretty minor and cheap insurance against disaster. > > Tom >

Re: [RE-wrenches] 2 volt Trojan RE series L16 Batteries

2011-04-20 Thread R Ray Walters
Sounds like problem connections, if all the cells are an even 2.12 v. I wouldn't solder 4/0 connections, the solder can run back up the cable stranding, and make the cables too stiff to fully connect with the battery terminal. I had a battery terminal meltdown due to this. We quit using thick b

Re: [RE-wrenches] 2 volt Trojan RE series L16 Batteries

2011-04-20 Thread R Ray Walters
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Re: [RE-wrenches] Batteries in parrallel Failure

2011-04-20 Thread R Ray Walters
At least with a breaker arrangement you could charge different strings separately which would help an otherwise bad situation. Also, I think the CB breakers would be adequate in this case. They have a 5000 AIC (too low for a HUP) but my specs on an AGM battery are showing 2300A short circuit. R

Re: [RE-wrenches] Are Stainless Steel Star Washers UL 467 compatable?

2011-04-20 Thread R Ray Walters
I recall Bill Brooks noting that the ILSOC ground lugs needed full contact of their back surface with the surface it was mounted to. He was recommending grinding off the oxide coating on the module around the screw hole to achieve the desired contact. Apparently putting a star washer between the

Re: [RE-wrenches] Air conditioning for batteies in high temperature climate

2011-04-21 Thread R Ray Walters
Are you using temperature compensation? It lowers the voltage when its hot. Also, have you considered setting the batteries in a below ground vault? I've had good luck with in floor battery boxes. Finally, AGMs and L16s just don't last very long anyway. AGMs maybe 3 years, and L16s I've seen die

Re: [RE-wrenches] Air conditioning for batteies in high temperatureclimate

2011-04-21 Thread R Ray Walters
g all at about the same age. > > Thanks for your reply. > > Larry > - Original Message - > From: R Ray Walters > To: RE-wrenches > Sent: Thursday, April 21, 2011 1:50 PM > Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Air conditioning for batteies in high > temperatureclimate > >

Re: [RE-wrenches] PV powered music festival

2011-04-27 Thread R Ray Walters
Solarfest in Taos had a solar powered stage for years, so it definitely can be done. I've been into sound stuff lately, and I can say the loads are extremely variable. I have a 600 watt rated amp, (class D design) that I peaked at 270 watts input and averaged about 150 watts while I was testing

Re: [RE-wrenches] PV powered music festival

2011-04-27 Thread R Ray Walters
Dan; Your system sounds great. I'd love to hear it sometime. Just one question: how come no tube amps? You're going to have some guitar players screaming; most of the best guitar amps are all tube these days. I know they waste a lot of power, but they're usually small compared to the PA system.

Re: [RE-wrenches] MC connectors

2011-04-29 Thread R Ray Walters
Midnite Solar is now making Combiner boxes that are prewired with MC connects. Being UL listed, I think they would speed both the installation and inspection processes. http://www.midnitesolar.com/products.php?menuItem=products&productCat_ID=9&productCatName=PV%20Combiners They may also sell th

Re: [RE-wrenches] Perimeter warning lines

2011-05-02 Thread R Ray Walters
As I understand it, OSHA regs don't require you to purchase a certain product. We built our own bases (2x4s, and saw horses, etc) and weighted them with extra ballast blocks from the PV ballasting. We also used a regular rope with the required strength, and hung warning flagging along with it. T

Re: [RE-wrenches] Interfacing an Air 403 wind generator

2011-05-05 Thread R Ray Walters
I've grid tied a few battery based turbines now, both the 403 and Bergey XL1. You can use a very small sealed battery (180 AH @ 24v), so that would take care of the maintenance issue. Cost on the other hand doesn't make sense, unless they want some emergency backup capability. If they don't want

Re: [RE-wrenches] Interfacing an Air 403 wind generator

2011-05-05 Thread R Ray Walters
Bob-O; I was going to hold off on the obvious I think they're also good as a bird repellant, noise maker, etc. but I've never seen one actually make over 175 watts, and that was a 1 sec burst in strong wind. SWWP always said the low output was due to the thinner air at high altitude, but th

Re: [RE-wrenches] Dangerous installs/installers..

2011-05-07 Thread R Ray Walters
Even a bad solar installer isn't going to use cut up extension cords; that install was DIY or a "knowledgable" inebriated neighbor. I lived in the backwoods for many years, and saw even my own work get turned into horror systems. As far as your competitor doing bad work, we had the same problem

Re: [RE-wrenches] Battery interconnect cable length

2011-06-06 Thread R Ray Walters
My experience is that parallel jumpers need to be equal. Also, if running parallel strings, then the series jumpers would need to be equal to the wiring path of the other parallel string. I've actually added extra cable length, so that all parallel strings would truly be equal. On a single seri

Re: [RE-wrenches] Anti-Islanding Explanantion

2011-07-19 Thread R Ray Walters
If you wouldn't mind Peter, I'd like to see this discussion stay on the list. I'd be interested to learn more about the actual anti-islanding features of inverters. What you've described seems to just cover the voltage and frequency windows that the inverter will grid tie to. I was always under t

Re: [RE-wrenches] 1987 NEC

2011-07-19 Thread R Ray Walters
We had an early 90s system with a DCGFP(complete with 4/0 GEC:)). A ground fault on a DC load circuit caused the GFP to lift the ground, shut the array off, but the short was still being fed by the battery and wouldn't trip the DC breaker, since negative was disconnected from ground. I thought

Re: [RE-wrenches] Efficient step up, down transformers

2011-07-25 Thread R Ray Walters
I thought (based a previous thread) that we needed to be concerned with VA output of inverters, not wattage, at least on the transformer based machines like the SW. I realize this wouldn't be an actual load if on grid. In these situations, I just measure DC amps into the inverter to determine the

Re: [RE-wrenches] Efficient step up, down transformers

2011-07-25 Thread R Ray Walters
e the > magnetic field in the core. This would mean, however, the > current is 90 degrees out of phase with the voltage, hence > no real power being consumed. > > The majority loss at that point would be the resistive > loss in the copper, which would be on the order of a few >

Re: [RE-wrenches] Module Racking Attachment to SIP Roof

2011-07-26 Thread R Ray Walters
One problem that came up on a project recently, is that your penetrations (as proposed in your solution below) will essentially ruin the thermal performance of the SIPs system. The whole point of the SIPs system is that there are no thermal short circuits such as framing members that allow heat

Re: [RE-wrenches] pole mounts

2011-07-26 Thread R Ray Walters
It definitely stiffens the pole, and prevents water from rusting it out from the inside. While I might use the stiffening effect to get a couple of extra feet out of the ground, I wouldn't start downsizing your poles because you poured concrete in them. I think it would be fair to compare the e

Re: [RE-wrenches] pole mounts

2011-07-26 Thread R Ray Walters
I can confirm that quite a bit of water builds up inside the pipe. A few times on rewiring old systems, we used self tapping screws to attach conduit and combiner boxes to the existing pole, and we've had water start running out the hole when it was close to the ground. This was in a dry climate

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