Tom;

That's exactly what Daryl and I were suggesting: all strings paralleled to a 
central combiner box with breakers on each series string.
The only thing I left out was that each cable set should be the same length ( 
which Daryl was already suggesting).
You need to reread what we were talking about.  We got this idea from you many 
years ago, so the record is not broken;
its been pirated, reposted for Free download on all sorts of unsavory sites, 
and you aren't getting a royalty check....
Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, and this list listens to and 
appreciates you.

Thanks,

R. Walters
r...@solarray.com
Solar Engineer




On Apr 19, 2011, at 10:16 PM, Tom Elliot wrote:

> The broken record will now repeat himself yet again.  Bussbars are the way to 
> go, not across battery terminals but individual strings connected to a 
> central positive and negative buss from which the inverter connection then 
> runs.  This allows fusing of each individual connection and also allows for 
> smaller positive cables and no need to have identical length parallel cables 
> since each string is independently connected.  It’s what telecom 
> installations use.  The Telecom guys who showed me how to do it literally 
> laughed when told about paralleling across battery terminals.  They then told 
> me they considered it profoundly stupid and dangerous and since I had just 
> avoided a meltdown myself by catching a bad cell before complete failure I 
> got the message pretty quick.
>  
> Really guys, this is amazingly simple and yes, it may mean a bit more cabling 
> and another component but from a safety standpoint those considerations are 
> pretty minor and cheap insurance against disaster.
>  
> Tom
>  
>  
>  
> From: R Ray Walters
> Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 6:01 PM
> To: RE-wrenches
> Subject: Re: [RE-wrenches] Batteries in parrallel Failure
>  
> I like the fused parallel idea; could save the system, and would make battery 
> troubleshooting nice.
> I would suggest #6 jumpers with 50 to 60 amp breakers,  so the system could 
> be operated on just a few strings if needed.
>  
> R. Walters
> r...@solarray.com
> Solar Engineer
>  
>  
> 
>  
> On Apr 19, 2011, at 8:29 PM, Darryl Thayer wrote:
> 
>> Batteries in parallel, How to protect from catastrophic failure.
>> I just got contacted to commission a solar system off grid not of my design. 
>>   Eight battery strings in parallel, AGM batteries, 24 volts @ 120 AH each 
>> string (two 12 volt in series)  New system, new batteries, Silent POwer 
>> Inverter.  Two kW DC array.  generator to charge through Silent power.  
>> (present installer is not sure how to do final set up and testing)
>>  
>> I am most concerned about 8 batteries in parallel, (especially since last 
>> week a set of AGM burned up having 5 in parallel Owner had no way to break 
>> the paralleling of the batteries, she could only stop the chargeing)   What 
>> I am proposing for your review is requireing the installtion of  two 
>> combiner boxes Midnight solar with a breaker in each battery string, using 
>> about 3' of #10 to connect each battery string to the combiner box.  This 
>> way if a battery failed and the paralled strings were to "dump" into the 
>> failed battery it would trip the breaker.  I was thinking of using a 30 amp 
>> breaker in each string. The main breaker is set at 240 amps.
>>  
>> Ideas Please?  
>>  
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