CTABLES qualified responses

2025-03-29 Thread Frans Houweling
how to achieve this with CTABLES? Thanks frans

Re: CTABLES questions

2024-10-25 Thread Ben Pfaff
I like to think that the PSPP manual documentation for CTABLES is pretty good. It includes many examples. If there's anything missing from it, let me know. On Wed, Oct 23, 2024 at 3:27 PM ft gmail wrote: > > > Le 23/10/2024 à 17:24, Ben Pfaff a écrit : > > On Wed, Oct 23

Re: CTABLES questions

2024-10-25 Thread Frans Houweling
CTABLES is well-documented indeed! For exercises you might want to have a look at some blog posts here: https://www.morewithdata.net/blog/index-3.html frans On 10/24/24 22:51, Ben Pfaff wrote: I like to think that the PSPP manual documentation for CTABLES is pretty good. It includes many

Re: CTABLES questions

2024-10-23 Thread ft gmail
Le 23/10/2024 à 17:24, Ben Pfaff a écrit : On Wed, Oct 23, 2024 at 5:14 AM ft gmail wrote: Does PSPP intend to replace a specific version of SPSS CTABLES ? My goal is always to implement features from the latest SPSS (but some are currently missing). The best I found was a SPSS TABLES

Re: CTABLES questions

2024-10-23 Thread Ben Pfaff
On Wed, Oct 23, 2024 at 5:14 AM ft gmail wrote: > Does PSPP intend to replace a specific version of SPSS CTABLES ? My goal is always to implement features from the latest SPSS (but some are currently missing). > The best I found was a SPSS TABLES 11.5 manual. Is there anything better

Re: CTABLES questions

2024-10-23 Thread ft gmail
Thank you very much, Ben. Your solution looks far better. Though I worked with CTABLES years ago, a steep re-learning curve rests. Does PSPP intend to replace a specific version of SPSS CTABLES ? Unfortunately , I did not find a good website (or book) for self-learning CTABLES with syntax

Re: CTABLES questions

2024-10-21 Thread Ben Pfaff
CTABLES should work with TEMPORARY. I'm surprised that it doesn't. It works for me with your data. Here is how to get the totals column. There might be a way to get a % Total row too; I didn't have time to figure it out. set /tnumbers labels. temp. recode d60 (7=3)./* missing

CTABLES questions

2024-10-18 Thread ft gmail
Hi, I try to exploit the wide possibilities that the procedure CTABLES allows and which I have used years ago with SPSS but today, I am stuck with a recent Eurobarometer 94.3 survey file from 2021. I have two questions: 1/ To make the CTABLES output more readable I temporarily recode two

Re: CTABLES GUI

2024-02-13 Thread Ben Pfaff
Hmm, it doesn't work for me at first try either. John, I would guess that you wrote the CTABLES GUI. Does it work OK for you? I'm not having any luck. On Tue, Feb 13, 2024 at 4:24 AM ft gmail wrote: > > Hi, > > Did anyone work with the CTABLES GUI ? > > I can drag

CTABLES GUI

2024-02-13 Thread ft gmail
Hi, Did anyone work with the CTABLES GUI ? I can drag and drop an ordinal variable into the row axis, but no variable into the column axis. Bizarre. Any ideas ? Merci ftr

Re: CTABLES

2024-02-09 Thread Ben Pfaff
I like to think that the PSPP manual for CTABLES is pretty good. It includes lots of examples. You might find one of the examples here is what you're looking for: https://www.gnu.org/software/pspp/manual/html_node/CTABLES-Scalar-Variable-Basics.html On Fri, Feb 9, 2024 at 3:24 AM ft gmail

Re: CTABLES

2024-02-09 Thread Matthias Faeth
Why not use Frans very good examples and blog to get fluent in Ctables again? https://www.morewithdata.net/blog/20221030-ctables-exercises-part-i.html Matthias Am Fr., 9. Feb. 2024 um 12:25 Uhr schrieb ft gmail : > Hi, > > I am really glad the PSPP crew published the CTABLES

CTABLES

2024-02-09 Thread ft gmail
Hi, I am really glad the PSPP crew published the CTABLES procedure. Thank you, I used the forerunner of  CTABLES in SPSS many years ago (during the last century 😉), but have lost my fluency in us and now want to re-use this very helpful procedure. I  look fo*r good examples.* I did not

Re: CTABLES sample size & total

2023-12-23 Thread Matthias Faeth
uweling a écrit : > > Hi ft, > > have a look at the /CATEGORIES subcommand. > > Manual: > https://benpfaff.org/~blp/pspp-master/20231105144641/source/user-manual/pspp.html#CTABLES-Totals-and-Subtotals > . > Also this post might help: > https://www.morewithdata.net/ctab

Re: CTABLES sample size & total

2023-12-23 Thread ft gmail
Hi Frans, I shall follow your info. Thanks ! Have a good Christmas, ftr Le 22/12/2023 à 16:18, Frans Houweling a écrit : Hi ft,   have a look at the /CATEGORIES subcommand. Manual: https://benpfaff.org/~blp/pspp-master/20231105144641/source/user-manual/pspp.html#CTABLES-Totals-and

Re: CTABLES sample size & total

2023-12-23 Thread Frans Houweling
source/user-manual/pspp.html#CTABLES-Totals-and-Subtotals . Also this post might help: https://www.morewithdata.net/ctables-exercises-part-i/ Good luck! frans On 12/22/23 12:33, ft gmail wrote: Hi, I try to create a CTABLES cross tabulation with row percentages

Re: CTABLES sample size & total

2023-12-23 Thread Matthias Faeth
for firefox) Matthias Am Fr., 22. Dez. 2023 um 16:26 Uhr schrieb Frans Houweling < fhouwel...@email.it>: > Hi ft, > > have a look at the /CATEGORIES subcommand. > > Manual: > https://benpfaff.org/~blp/pspp-master/20231105144641/source/user-manual/pspp.html#CTAB

Re: CTABLES sample size & total

2023-12-22 Thread Frans Houweling
Hi ft,   have a look at the /CATEGORIES subcommand. Manual: https://benpfaff.org/~blp/pspp-master/20231105144641/source/user-manual/pspp.html#CTABLES-Totals-and-Subtotals . Also this post might help: https://www.morewithdata.net/ctables-exercises-part-i/ Good luck! frans On 12/22/23 12

CTABLES sample size & total

2023-12-22 Thread ft gmail
Hi, I try to create a CTABLES cross tabulation with row percentages in the cells, and with the sample size as the last column plus a row for the total. And I don't find the way how to create it. My current syntax: ctables /table tradin5  [rowpct  pct3.0 ]   by  alter5 produce

Re: Ctables Bug

2023-12-14 Thread Matthias Faeth via PSPP user discussion
Thanks for the tip! Matthias Am Mi., 13. Dez. 2023 um 23:00 Uhr schrieb Ben Pfaff : > By the way, it used to make sense to use narrow formats back when SPSS or > PSPP showed output with fixed-width columns, where using a narrower format > allowed more data to display horizontally. But these days

Re: Ctables Bug

2023-12-13 Thread Ben Pfaff
By the way, it used to make sense to use narrow formats back when SPSS or PSPP showed output with fixed-width columns, where using a narrower format allowed more data to display horizontally. But these days, with the output engines that SPSS and PSPP have, usually there isn't a benefit to a narrow

Re: Ctables Bug

2023-12-13 Thread Matthias Faeth via PSPP user discussion
My bad, thanks anyway Matthias Am Mi., 13. Dez. 2023 um 17:27 Uhr schrieb Ben Pfaff : > Thanks for the report. > > A width of 3 is enough to show one integer digit, a decimal point, and one > fractional digit, but not enough for two integer digits, a decimal point, > and one fractional digit. Us

Re: Ctables Bug

2023-12-13 Thread Ben Pfaff
Thanks for the report. A width of 3 is enough to show one integer digit, a decimal point, and one fractional digit, but not enough for two integer digits, a decimal point, and one fractional digit. Use F4.1 or a wider format instead. On Wed, Dec 13, 2023 at 1:07 AM Matthias Faeth wrote: > Hi Be

Ctables Bug

2023-12-13 Thread Matthias Faeth via PSPP user discussion
Hi Ben found a little bug here: while mean honors the f3.1 format, colpct does not [image: grafik.png] Cheers Matthias

Re: Ctables

2023-04-07 Thread Ben Pfaff
Thanks for the report. What data should I use for this? On Fri, Apr 7, 2023 at 1:04 AM Matthias Faeth wrote: > > Hi > > this command crashes reproducible pspp (GNU pspp 1.6.2-ga2512f - Flatpak) > > ctables /table (kauf > alt) [count f2.0] by ort > int. > > while w

Ctables

2023-04-07 Thread Matthias Faeth
Hi this command crashes reproducible pspp (GNU pspp 1.6.2-ga2512f - Flatpak) ctables /table (kauf > alt) [count f2.0] by ort > int. while working on SPSS. Matthias Fäth Calle San Ramon 5 ES- 46780 Oliva Handy DE: +49 171 98 32 175 Movile ES: +34 682 33 94 02 Email: m.fa...@gmx.de

Re: CTABLES examples

2022-11-04 Thread Ben Pfaff
It's syntax driven in the sense that no one has built a GUI for it yet, yes. On Fri, Nov 4, 2022, 3:28 PM ft gmail wrote: > Do I understand well that CTABLES is entirely syntax-driven ? > > -ftr > > On 04/11/2022 18:25, Ben Pfaff wrote: > > Have you looked at the

Re: CTABLES examples

2022-11-04 Thread ft gmail
Do I understand well that CTABLES is entirely syntax-driven ? -ftr On 04/11/2022 18:25, Ben Pfaff wrote: Have you looked at the user documentation in the manual? I included many examples: https://benpfaff.org/~blp/pspp-master/latest/source/user-manual/html_node/CTABLES.html On Fri, Nov 4

Re: CTABLES examples

2022-11-04 Thread Ben Pfaff
iable names > like in the old red SPSS manual by Nie : > > CTABLES > /TABLE=AGE [MEAN, MEDIAN] BY GENDER > /TABLE=AgeGroup [COLPCT, ROWPCT] BY GENDER. > > > On 04/11/2022 18:25, Ben Pfaff wrote: > > Have you looked at the user documentation in the manual? I in

Re: CTABLES examples

2022-11-04 Thread ft gmail
This is what I looked for: the structure of the command explained with examples. Thank you for the work. For the next version I propose to use easily understandable variable names like in the old red SPSS manual by Nie : CTABLES /TABLE=AGE [MEAN, MEDIAN] BY GENDER /TABLE=AgeGroup

Re: CTABLES examples

2022-11-04 Thread Ben Pfaff
Have you looked at the user documentation in the manual? I included many examples: https://benpfaff.org/~blp/pspp-master/latest/source/user-manual/html_node/CTABLES.html On Fri, Nov 4, 2022 at 9:05 AM ft gmail wrote: > > Hi, > > I worked with the SPSS version of CTABLES years ago an

CTABLES examples

2022-11-04 Thread ft gmail
Hi, I worked with the SPSS version of CTABLES years ago and would like to see current examples, tutorials etc. of its PSPP version. I found the site https://www.morewithdata.net/ctables-have-come/ which publishes 3 additional articles on the issue. Did you find other ones ? Regards -ftr

Re: CTABLES is now available

2022-08-29 Thread Ben Pfaff
I guess that it should not be difficult to add support for rsvg, since it's widely available on all the distributions I know of (including the flatpak SDK for GNOME). I hope that it does not cause you trouble. On Mon, Aug 29, 2022 at 9:59 AM Ben Pfaff wrote: > > I see, thanks. > > On Mon, Aug 29,

Re: CTABLES is now available

2022-08-29 Thread Ben Pfaff
I see, thanks. On Mon, Aug 29, 2022 at 9:41 AM Friedrich Beckmann wrote: > > Hi Ben, > > > I do see that the last few builds at Friedrich's autobuilder have failed, > > for > > reasons not obvious to me, so perhaps there is no Windows build yet. > > the builders fail because I have not installed

Re: CTABLES is now available

2022-08-29 Thread Friedrich Beckmann
Hi Ben, > I do see that the last few builds at Friedrich's autobuilder have failed, for > reasons not obvious to me, so perhaps there is no Windows build yet. the builders fail because I have not installed rsvg yet. See https://git.savannah.gnu.org/cgit/pspp.git/commit/?id=23d00b8a6a82d177f3f30e

Re: CTABLES is now available

2022-08-29 Thread Ben Pfaff
A flatpak is just for GNU/Linux. It is a convenient way to install a piece of software. You install PSPP in the usual way. The new version has CTABLES. I do see that the last few builds at Friedrich's autobuilder have failed, for reasons not obvious to me, so perhaps there is no Windows

Re: CTABLES is now available

2022-08-29 Thread ft gmail
Thank you Be, for your work. I am not a UNIX person. What is a flatpak ? How do you install CTABLES when you work under Windows ? Regards, ftr On 29/08/2022 01:36, Ben Pfaff wrote: I just added support for CTABLES to PSPP. It is already available through the autobuilder at https

CTABLES is now available

2022-08-28 Thread Ben Pfaff
I just added support for CTABLES to PSPP. It is already available through the autobuilder at https://benpfaff.org/~blp/pspp-master/, including a flatpak build. I guess that the autobuilder at https://caeis.etech.fh-augsburg.de/buildbot/#/builders will also have a build soon. Most CTABLES features

Re: more CTABLES progress

2022-08-17 Thread Ben Pfaff
el...@email.it>: > >> Robinson Crusoe was an amateur. You sir, are incredible! >> >> On 8/15/22 07:29, Ben Pfaff wrote: >> > Today, I finished writing tests for the CTABLES procedure. Some code >> > cleanup is necessary, then the last step is to finish writ

Re: more CTABLES progress

2022-08-17 Thread Matthias Faeth
shed writing tests for the CTABLES procedure. Some code > > cleanup is necessary, then the last step is to finish writing the > > documentation for the manual. I'm almost done with that, too. It's > > possible that I could even have it ready for people to test before the &

Re: more CTABLES progress

2022-08-15 Thread Frans Houweling
Robinson Crusoe was an amateur. You sir, are incredible! On 8/15/22 07:29, Ben Pfaff wrote: Today, I finished writing tests for the CTABLES procedure. Some code cleanup is necessary, then the last step is to finish writing the documentation for the manual. I'm almost done with that, too.

more CTABLES progress

2022-08-14 Thread Ben Pfaff
Today, I finished writing tests for the CTABLES procedure. Some code cleanup is necessary, then the last step is to finish writing the documentation for the manual. I'm almost done with that, too. It's possible that I could even have it ready for people to test before the end of the

CTABLES and intersecting PCOMPUTEs

2022-07-06 Thread Ben Pfaff
I'm working on the CTABLES procedure. I'm trying to understand how PCOMPUTE should work when multiple postcomputes intersect each other. For example, consider the following syntax: DATA LIST LIST NOTABLE/x y z. WEIGHT by z. FORMATS ALL (F1.0). VARIABLE LEVEL x y (NOMINAL). BEGIN DATA. 1

Re: seeking a good data set for CTABLES examples

2022-01-20 Thread Ben Pfaff
ess and re-use at GESIS. > > > > Best, > > Markus > > > > > > *Von:* Pspp-users *Im > Auftrag von *ft gmail > *Gesendet:* Montag, 17. Januar 2022 15:09 > *An:* pspp-users@gnu.org; Ben Pfaff > *Betreff:* Re: seeking a good data set for CTABLES exampl

AW: seeking a good data set for CTABLES examples

2022-01-19 Thread Quandt, Markus
re-use at GESIS. Best, Markus Von: Pspp-users Im Auftrag von ft gmail Gesendet: Montag, 17. Januar 2022 15:09 An: pspp-users@gnu.org; Ben Pfaff Betreff: Re: seeking a good data set for CTABLES examples Hi Ben, This is a shortened Flash Eurobarometer 383 survey from September 2013 which

Re: seeking a good data set for CTABLES examples

2022-01-18 Thread ft gmail
= 26,555 in 28 countries. I shortened the labels for the multi-response question Q9 so that you can produce a readable table. See attached save file and the questionnaire. I am looking very much forward to your implementation of CTABLES. Regards, ftr On 17/01/2022

Re: seeking a good data set for CTABLES examples

2022-01-18 Thread ft gmail
= 26,555 in 28 countries. I shortened the labels for the multi-response question Q9 so that you can produce a readable table. See attached save file and the questionnaire. I am looking very much forward to your implementation of CTABLES. Regards, ftr On 17/01/2022

Re: seeking a good data set for CTABLES examples

2022-01-17 Thread ft gmail
shortened the labels for the multi-response question Q9 so that you can produce a readable table. See attached save file and the questionnaire. I am looking very much forward to your implementation of CTABLES. Regards, ftr On 17/01/2022 07:37, Ben Pfaff wrote: Here&#

Re: seeking a good data set for CTABLES examples

2022-01-17 Thread Ben Pfaff
d about what you have done and > realize that enhancements will be made over time, just as you always have > with PSPP. > I plan to support all the summary functions mentioned in the SPSS syntax referenc for CTABLES. I already support most of them. I am not sure whether I will initially supp

Re: seeking a good data set for CTABLES examples

2022-01-17 Thread Ben Pfaff
tached save file and the questionnaire. > > I am looking very much forward to your implementation of CTABLES. > > Regards, > > ftr > > > On 17/01/2022 07:37, Ben Pfaff wrote: > > Here's an example of what I can do currently with this dataset and > CTABLES. Sy

RE: seeking a good data set for CTABLES examples

2022-01-17 Thread jhwhite
...@techwriteinc.com From: Pspp-users On Behalf Of Ben Pfaff Sent: Monday, January 17, 2022 1:37 AM To: pspp-users Subject: Re: seeking a good data set for CTABLES examples Here's an example of what I can do currently with this dataset and CTABLES. Syntax: CTABLES /TABLE QN105BA[c] + QN10

Re: seeking a good data set for CTABLES examples

2022-01-16 Thread Ben Pfaff
Here's an example of what I can do currently with this dataset and CTABLES. Syntax: CTABLES /TABLE QN105BA[c] + QN105BB[c] + QN105BC[c] + QN105BD[c] /CLABELS ROWLABELS=OPPOSITE. Output: Custom T

Re: seeking a good data set for CTABLES examples

2022-01-16 Thread Ben Pfaff
ave a wrong measurement level, but I'm going to start from it. Please feel free to send me more data sets. On Sat, Jan 15, 2022 at 10:40 AM Ben Pfaff wrote: > > Hi! I'm getting to the point with work on CTABLES that I need a good > data set for use in examples. A good d

Re: seeking a good data set for CTABLES examples

2022-01-16 Thread Ben Pfaff
Great, thanks! On Sun, Jan 16, 2022, 4:03 AM Rohrpost wrote: > Hi Ben, > An excellent Idea. I'll send you a subset or an Eurobarometer survey which > is public. > Regards > ftr > > Le sam. 15 janv. 2022 à 19:43, Ben Pfaff a écrit : > >> Hi! I'm getting

Re: seeking a good data set for CTABLES examples

2022-01-16 Thread Rohrpost
Hi Ben, An excellent Idea. I'll send you a subset or an Eurobarometer survey which is public. Regards ftr Le sam. 15 janv. 2022 à 19:43, Ben Pfaff a écrit : > Hi! I'm getting to the point with work on CTABLES that I need a good > data set for use in examples. A good data set

seeking a good data set for CTABLES examples

2022-01-15 Thread Ben Pfaff
Hi! I'm getting to the point with work on CTABLES that I need a good data set for use in examples. A good data set would need to be: * Publicly available and freely redistributable. * Medium size (at least hundreds of cases). * Have a mix of categorical and scale variables. * Contain

Re: ​Re: PSPP CTABLES

2018-07-26 Thread Ben Pfaff
The SPV format actually > > > > points a good way forward on this point, so when the appropriate amount > > > > of work is done, it should allow CROSSTABS to be nicer internally and > > > > then a reasonable MULT RESPONSE implementation too. > > > &g

Re: ​Re: PSPP CTABLES

2018-07-26 Thread Michał Dubrawski
t > > > of work is done, it should allow CROSSTABS to be nicer internally and > > > then a reasonable MULT RESPONSE implementation too. > > > > > > On Thu, Jul 26, 2018 at 09:56:17AM +0200, Michał Dubrawski wrote: > > > > Hi Ben, > > > &g

Re: ​Re: PSPP CTABLES

2018-07-26 Thread Ben Pfaff
Michał Dubrawski wrote: > > > Hi Ben, > > > > > > it is great to hear that you are working with spv output. I know that > > they > > > were changing it from version to version so it seem like quite a > > challenge, > > > but based on wh

Re: ​Re: PSPP CTABLES

2018-07-26 Thread Michał Dubrawski
t challenges you have faced before when making PSPP > > compatible to SPSS I'm sure you will handle it :) > > > > CTABLES or Tables in the future will be very useful but I think that what > > would be most important for students, social sicentists, psychologists, > &

Re: ​Re: PSPP CTABLES

2018-07-26 Thread Ben Pfaff
I'm sure you will handle it :) > > CTABLES or Tables in the future will be very useful but I think that what > would be most important for students, social sicentists, psychologists, > market researchers or virtualy anyone who analyse any survey results would > be the possibility to dis

​Re: PSPP CTABLES

2018-07-26 Thread Michał Dubrawski
Hi Ben, it is great to hear that you are working with spv output. I know that they were changing it from version to version so it seem like quite a challenge, but based on what challenges you have faced before when making PSPP compatible to SPSS I'm sure you will handle it :) CTABLES or T

Re: PSPP CTABLES

2018-07-25 Thread Ben Pfaff
so that it can read (and write?) it directly. Implicit in that > > format is an understanding of the SPSS output model, which seems to be > > entangled quite a bit with the CTABLES syntax. It might therefore lead > > someday to CTABLES implementation (but not soon). > > >

Re: PSPP CTABLES

2018-07-25 Thread Alan Mead
working to make PSPP understand SPSS's .spv output file > format, so that it can read (and write?) it directly. Implicit in that > format is an understanding of the SPSS output model, which seems to be > entangled quite a bit with the CTABLES syntax. It might therefore lead > someday t

Re: PSPP CTABLES

2018-07-25 Thread Matthias Faeth
Great News - I'd long to see CTABLES in PSPP. If there is anything we can do to assist you with this project give us a note. For me Ronald's suggestion to opt for TABLES instead would be also alright, if this is easier to implement. 2018-07-24 23:30 GMT+02:00 Ben Pfaff : > There

Re: PSPP CTABLES

2018-07-24 Thread Ben Pfaff
gled quite a bit with the CTABLES syntax. It might therefore lead someday to CTABLES implementation (but not soon). On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 09:21:11PM +, Crichton, Ronald wrote: > I asked about this a few years ago. I gather it would be difficult. Mind > you, I used TABLES in SPSS i

RE: PSPP CTABLES

2018-07-24 Thread Crichton, Ronald
I asked about this a few years ago. I gather it would be difficult. Mind you, I used TABLES in SPSS in about 1990 and got to quite like it and used it a lot. So, here we are in 2018 and I use CTABLES in SPSS, and can’t get the hang of it, at least not much more than the basic usage of it

Re: PSPP CTABLES

2018-07-24 Thread Ben Pfaff
On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 10:29:21AM +0200, Jakub Škrobánek wrote: > Hi, I would like to ask if there is any progression in CTABLES > implementation to PSPP. I read some threads (http://pspp-users.gnu.narkive. > com/r32JwdwI/what-features-of-custom-tables-ctables-are-most-important) but >

PSPP CTABLES

2018-07-24 Thread Jakub Škrobánek
Hi, I would like to ask if there is any progression in CTABLES implementation to PSPP. I read some threads (http://pspp-users.gnu.narkive. com/r32JwdwI/what-features-of-custom-tables-ctables-are-most-important) but they seems dead. Any suggestion? Kind regards Jacob

Re: CTABLES

2015-11-16 Thread Ben Pfaff
macro is very different > and deserves a discussion in itself. The implementation of macros is a big project but I'd say that it's simpler than SPV or CTABLES. It's also completely independent of either of those. ___ Pspp-u

RE: CTABLES

2015-11-09 Thread Barry Kiefl
[mailto:pspp-users-bounces+bkiefl=sympatico...@gnu.org] On Behalf Of Crichton, Ronald Sent: Monday, November 09, 2015 2:53 PM To: pspp-users@gnu.org Subject: RE: CTABLES The value of (C)TABLES for me was the ability to publish the output without making edits, and that was always a 2-dimensional table

RE: CTABLES

2015-11-09 Thread Crichton, Ronald
:02 AM To: Matthias Faeth; Ben Pfaff Cc: pspp-users@gnu.org Subject: RE: CTABLES > Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2015 16:53:41 +0100 > Subject: Re: CTABLES > From: m.fa...@gmx.de > To: b...@cs.stanford.edu > CC: charlesjohns...@outlook.com; fhouwel..

RE: CTABLES

2015-11-09 Thread Charles Johnson
> Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2015 16:53:41 +0100 > Subject: Re: CTABLES > From: m.fa...@gmx.de > To: b...@cs.stanford.edu > CC: charlesjohns...@outlook.com; fhouwel...@email.it; > j...@darrington.wattle.id.au; robe...@consumerscan.ca; >

Re: CTABLES

2015-11-09 Thread Matthias Faeth
ok. That means for me, that we should abort the request for CTABLES until the SPV issue is solved. 1. Has anybody a different opinion? 2. Ben, do you have any idea about the time needed so that we do not rise the issue with CTABLES again and again? 3. Maybe Frans idea about implementing !Macros

Re: CTABLES

2015-11-09 Thread Ben Pfaff
On Mon, Nov 09, 2015 at 10:28:30AM +0100, Matthias Faeth wrote: > Thanks for the comprehensive explanation why CTABLES depend on the ability > to read SPV files. Do I understand correctly that this dependency comes > only from the pivot-function in the SPV file - meaning that you doublec

Re: CTABLES

2015-11-09 Thread Matthias Faeth
Hi Ben Thanks for the comprehensive explanation why CTABLES depend on the ability to read SPV files. Do I understand correctly that this dependency comes only from the pivot-function in the SPV file - meaning that you doubleclick on a table to change pages? I mean by that the following: The

Re: CTABLES

2015-11-08 Thread Ben Pfaff
On Sun, Nov 08, 2015 at 06:20:25PM +0100, Matthias Faeth wrote: > I'm not sure if I get the discussion under the label CTABLES here: why > should "production jobs" replace CTABLES? > > Or is it just that there are 3 open topics by now > 1. CTABLES > 2. Produc

RE: CTABLES

2015-11-08 Thread Crichton, Ronald
of my previous experience in SPSS using TABLES, and that was the prime reason form moving away from PSPP to SPSS. Unfortunately, SPSS does not offer TABLES and has implemented CTABLES instead. I have to admit to not being particularly impressed by CTABLES. Perhaps I just need more practice

Re: CTABLES

2015-11-08 Thread Matthias Faeth
I'm not sure if I get the discussion under the label CTABLES here: why should "production jobs" replace CTABLES? Or is it just that there are 3 open topics by now 1. CTABLES 2. Production jobs 3. Reading .spv files and the discussion is on which to focus time and energy? Anybody

Re: CTABLES

2015-11-07 Thread Ben Pfaff
sumerscan.ca; news@free.fr; ame...@alanmead.org; > > pspp-users@gnu.org > > Subject: Re: CTABLES > > > > I've done a lot of the work needed to figure out the format of SPV > > files. I'm working on publishing a format specification. Then I'll > >

RE: CTABLES

2015-11-07 Thread Charles Johnson
; > pspp-users@gnu.org > Subject: Re: CTABLES > > I've done a lot of the work needed to figure out the format of SPV > files. I'm working on publishing a format specification. Then I'll > work on implementing a reader for it. > That is great news. If you need mor

Re: CTABLES

2015-11-07 Thread Ben Pfaff
d its counterpart in PSPPire. But I insist that if there is > a group interested in operating CTABLES, we must support it. Any > further new feature compatible with SPSS should be welcomed. I've done a lot of the work needed to figure out the format of SPV files. I'm working on

RE: CTABLES

2015-11-07 Thread Charles Johnson
@Frans I do not think the discussion here is about other features. I think there's a group of people who could organize and work for CTABLES in PSPP. Moreover, the macros are not an agnostic solution ... may be different languages to choose from and for the end user means learning more than

Re: CTABLES

2015-11-07 Thread Frans Houweling
re not the reason for wanting CTABLES, why not concentrate on implementing macros instead? I believe it is possible to create tables of any complexity, through various stages of AGGREGATE. That's a pain, I agree,  and that's where macros come in. Macros would allo

Re: CTABLES

2015-11-07 Thread Alan Mead
What does CTABLES do? And what aspects of CTABLES would be critical for users? I think a plan should be the first step. If CTABLES were part of PSPP, is the output OK? Or would that be the next hurdle to using PSPP that the output isn't the same as SPSS (e.g., I find it harder to copy-and-

RE: CTABLES

2015-11-07 Thread Charles Johnson
If the developers agree, it could generate a funding campaign to implement the command CTABLES on PSPP. While donations are received, a team can define the characteristics to be implemented and its estimated price. CJT > Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2015 12:22:10 +0

Re: CTABLES

2015-11-07 Thread Matthias Faeth
ity of the functions of the CTABLES command. Maybe Frans and Alan would want to join? I agree with John that a commercial implementation would produce 5 figured cost. I've already talked to a programmer on this and he came up with the same estimate. So doing it commercially seems to be no way for

CTABLES

2015-11-06 Thread John Darrington
Funding the implementation of a fully blown CTABLES at commercial rates, I think would cost well into 5 figures. However, it is perhaps possible, that a smaller subset of CTABLES could be undertaken by an altruistic programmer who has some time on his hands and wishes to earn a bit of money for

Re: CTABLES Command

2015-02-24 Thread Matthias Faeth
So nobody else interested to sponsor a programmer who goes for TABLES or CTABLES funktion (tbd) in PSPP? Or else: Any programmer out there who is interested to do the job? Regards Matthias 2015-02-20 11:43 GMT+01:00 Matthias Faeth : > I agree that the SPSS GUI for CTABLES is of not much

Re: CTABLES Command

2015-02-20 Thread Matthias Faeth
I agree that the SPSS GUI for CTABLES is of not much use (at least in SPSS 17 the lastes that I used) . I for myself would be contend if PSPP would support the code of CTABLES (but not only TABLES as Frank oviously states). So no integration into PSPPire but only into PSPP would be fine for me

Re: CTABLES Command

2015-02-19 Thread F. Thomas
of CTABLES spss currently has. I used to use it on v10 SPSS in about 1990 and found it relatively intuitive to use. I haven’t quite got into the same comfort zone I used to be in back then as with the current version. I don’t know why it would have been changed. Rather than PSPP simply

RE: CTABLES Command

2015-02-17 Thread Crichton, Ronald
I work for a govt agency. They may not come up with money, but I could put an argument that as they are currently paying about $2000 per year for an SPSS licence a proportion of that may be a good investment. Actually, I don’t like the version of CTABLES spss currently has. I used to use it

Re: CTABLES Command

2015-02-17 Thread Matthias Faeth
additionally CTABLES should handle MRSETS like in this command CTABLES /VLABELS VARIABLES=$UmK display=none /TABLE $UmK [COLPCT.COUNT PCT40.0] by welle /titles TITLE='Ungestützte Markenbekanntheit' /CATEGORIES VARIABLES=$UmK EMPTY=EXCLUDE Order=a Key=count($umk) /COMPARETEST

Re: CTABLES Command

2015-02-17 Thread robertl
CTABLES is essentially a command that allows custom 'Pivot' tables to be generated. An good example of its most common 'in the trenches' uses is below: CTABLES /FORMAT EMPTY=BLANK MISSING='.' MINCOLWIDTH=60 MAXCOLWIDTH=60 UNITS=POINTS /SMISSING VARIABLE

Re: CTABLES Command

2015-02-17 Thread John Darrington
So it seems there are an number of people who want CTABLES are prepared to pay for it. Not ever having actually used CTABLES, I don't know exactly what it is, and what people are expecting for their money.From the spss docs I see it is a big command with lots of options, but pe

Re: CTABLES Command

2015-02-17 Thread robertl
I myself would be willing to throw $100 down to motivate someone to do CTABLES. It is a very important feature and I think it would be a great coup for PSPP in terms of penetration. For students and researchers alike it is invaluable, especially when it comes to survey banner reports. Just

Re: CTABLES Command

2015-02-17 Thread Ben Pfaff
I don't need money. It's fine to fund someone to implement CTABLES, but it can't be me. On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 09:20:41AM +0100, Matthias Faeth wrote: > So maybe we can motivate Ben a little. I would think about a kickstarter > campaign. I'd put in 500USD for a full C

Re: CTABLES Command

2015-02-17 Thread Matthias Faeth
So maybe we can motivate Ben a little. I would think about a kickstarter campaign. I'd put in 500USD for a full CTABLES to get that off the ground. I think that would also clear the way for using MRSETS in an easy way. @Ben: would money help to motivate you? Matthias Fäth 2015-02-16 22:4

RE: CTABLES Command

2015-02-16 Thread Crichton, Ronald
February 2015 8:41 AM To: pspp-users@gnu.org Subject: Re: CTABLES Command A representative of SPSS said on the SPSS list some time ago that the CTables module is the most sold module , besides the basic one. As other free or open source stats programmes don't offer this opportunity it would r

Re: CTABLES Command

2015-02-16 Thread ftr
A representative of SPSS said on the SPSS list some time ago that the CTables module is the most sold module , besides the basic one. As other free or open source stats programmes don't offer the capacities of the Tables module its presence would really increase the attractivity of

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