How do we file a bug report with Apple, if we're not a dev?
Chris.
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From: "Chris Meredith"
To:
Sent: Monday, August 06, 2012 1:03 AM
Subject: Re: Very Disappointed with Mountain Lion
I can confirm that Safari seems to handle larger web page
up since for me, Mountain Lion is
>> like a night and day improvement over Lion, and I'm genuinely excited about
>> using my mac now.
>> Missy
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroup
ted I really haven't found any, but
>>>>> that isn't to say I won't eventually. The point is, give Apple a break
>>>>> for God sake, and before you accuse any beta tester saying, it's too
>>>>> buggy, why did you all let the bugs
I can confirm that Safari seems to handle larger web pages significantly better
(I used blindcooltech.com as my test page, since it still continues to be a
mass of text, links and headings that go on for miles). I am noticing some
oddities with some table navigation on one site in particular th
OSX and see what you! can do! In
>> other words, in less blunt terms, the beta testers also are human. Just
>> because someone is on the dev beta team does not make them infalible. They,
>> like you and myself are human. So cut out the bashing please. I agree.
>>
> Hi there!
I would just like to say that I went to set up a text edit shortcut as
described by Esther!
But was surprised to find that my copy of Nisus writer had already put one in
the services so I'm going to see if I can add a shortcut command to that!
So if any of you have Nisus then you migh
Ok so I just started reading the responses and let me just say why is
this thread pointless? It is called having an opinion, so if this
thread is pointless than all of the threads talking about how amazing
Mountain Lion is and such are all pointless to. I didn't scream and
say I hated the mac, I ex
Of course, I don't know anything about your system, processor speed, RAM, etc.
I can tell you that I rarely have the busy problem, and I cannot remember the
last time I did have a busy issue when in Safari. I use a Macbook Pro, 2.53 GH
processor and 4 GB RAM, and now also use an iMac, 2.7 Quad
>>>> almost seems like deliberate bashing just to cause drama. Maybe I'm the
>>>> exception to the rule, but I simply can't imagine
>>>> anyone thinking that Lion was better than ML.
>>>> OK. I'm done now. I don't want to contribute t
This is interesting. I am using Google Chrome as my default browser, because
there were some "busy busy" reports from Safari, are you saying this is
smoother now in ML? I really want to go back to Safari as a default browser
because you can't select text in Chrome unfortunately, but do you think
t;>>>> tell,
>>>>>> almost everything I hated about lion has been
>>>>>> fixed, and for the 1 or 2 very minor issues that still exist, I have
>>>>>> my
>>>>>> external drive that runs snow leopard. Mountain lion
>>>
gt;>> start-up, something which almost never happened under lion for me. Folks
>>>>> are
>>>>> definitely entitled to their opinions, but this
>>>>> almost seems like deliberate bashing just to cause drama. Maybe I'm the
>>>>> exception to
ntain lion
>>>>> is significantly faster than Lion was, I haven't had any busies that I
>>>>> can
>>>>> recall, and best of all, VO always comes on at
>>>>> start-up, something which almost never happened under lion for me. Folks
>
almost never happened under lion for me. Folks
>>>> are
>>>> definitely entitled to their opinions, but this
>>>> almost seems like deliberate bashing just to cause drama. Maybe I'm the
>>>> exception to the rule, but I simply can't imagine
>
Chris,
Selection on a webpage worked with VO+return then VO+arrows to select then
VO+return to stop selecting. I have not tried it under Mountain Lion since the
shift and arrow keys work great for me, but it definitely worked under Lion.
Harry
On Jul 31, 2012, at 6:20 PM, Chris Gilland wrote:
Excellent! Thanks for that tip.
Chris.
On Jul 31, 2012, at 2:48 PM, Anne Robertson wrote:
> Hello David,
>
> To force a file to download rather than play, hold down the Option key and
> press Return.
>
> Cheers,
>
> Anne
>
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t;> tell,
>>>>>> almost everything I hated about lion has been
>>>>>> fixed, and for the 1 or 2 very minor issues that still exist, I have
>>>>>> my
>>>>>> external drive that runs snow leopard. Mountain lion
>>&g
If I want to to just copy the text in a webpage in windows,
then I will just select what I want and then paste it into notepad. If
I do this in Text Edit then it inserts all the formatting of the page
including links, making it impossible to just save as a text file.
OK, instead of pasting into
ugh this same complaint cycle. People want all the new stuff,
>>> but they want it to all work the same and don't want to take the time and
>>> energy to learn the new stuff. Some how it should
>>> just jump into their minds how to do everything.
>>>
>&
gt; Missy
>>
>> -Original Message-----
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Tanner
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 10:17 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Subject: Re: Very Disa
From: "Kawal Gucukoglu"
>> To:
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 3:42 AM
>> Subject: Re: Very Disappointed with Mountain Lion
>>
>>
>> Hello All.
>>
>> Now what I might say may be something that people may not like but I am one
>> f
before complaining.
>
> - Original Message - From: "Kawal Gucukoglu"
> To:
> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 3:42 AM
> Subject: Re: Very Disappointed with Mountain Lion
>
>
> Hello All.
>
> Now what I might say may be something that people may no
ething which almost never happened under lion for me. Folks
>>>> are
>>>> definitely entitled to their opinions, but this
>>>> almost seems like deliberate bashing just to cause drama. Maybe I'm the
>>>> exception to the rule, but I simply can't ima
on for me. Folks
>>>> are
>>>> definitely entitled to their opinions, but this
>>>> almost seems like deliberate bashing just to cause drama. Maybe I'm the
>>>> exception to the rule, but I simply can't imagine
>>>> anyone t
, I haven't had any busies that I
>>>>> can
>>>>> recall, and best of all, VO always comes on at
>>>>> start-up, something which almost never happened under lion for me. Folks
>>>>> are
>>>>> definitely entitled to their opinions, but this
Hello David,
Option+Return on a link to force downloading is actually a Mac OS X shortcut
with a VoiceOver twist to it. Mac users, whether visually impaired or not, can
use Option+Click on a link to force downloading of a file. But if the link is
highlighted, pressing the Return key together
never happened under lion for me. Folks
>>>> are
>>>> definitely entitled to their opinions, but this
>>>> almost seems like deliberate bashing just to cause drama. Maybe I'm the
>>>> exception to the rule, but I simply can't imagine
>>
Thanks, I was told about this shortcut before, but I couldn't remember
it. I've checked the help files but I can't see anything about that
shortcut mentioned.
On 31/07/2012, Anne Robertson wrote:
> Hello David,
>
> To force a file to download rather than play, hold down the Option key and
> press
Hello David,
To force a file to download rather than play, hold down the Option key and
press Return.
Cheers,
Anne
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I'm not sure what happened. I hit shift-option-down in your reply and it
selected the line just fine. If you want a few paragraphs, I imagine you'd copy
and paste them one at a time. I never have to copy text out of a webpage so
can't say for sure there.
On Jul 31, 2012, at 2:33 PM, David Eagle
gt;>>> can
>>>>> recall, and best of all, VO always comes on at
>>>>> start-up, something which almost never happened under lion for me.
>>>>> Folks
>>>>> are
>>>>> definitely entitled to their opinions, but this
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at
>>>> start-up, something which almost never happened under lion for me. Folks
>>>> are
>>>> definitely entitled to their opinions, but this
>>>> almost seems like deliberate bashing just to cause drama. Maybe I'm the
>>>> exception to the rule, but I sim
>
>>> I would definately agree, but if you remember, last year when Lion came
>>> out
>>> we went through this same complaint cycle. People want all the new
>>> stuff,
>>> but they want it to all work the same and don't want to take the t
gt; using my mac now.
>> Missy
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Tanner
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 10:17 AM
>> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> Su
better than ML.
>>>> OK. I'm done now. I don't want to contribute too much to the drama, but I
>>>> just had to speak up since for me, Mountain Lion is
>>>> like a night and day improvement over Lion, and I'm genuinely excited about
>>>> u
to speak up since for me, Mountain Lion is
>>> like a night and day improvement over Lion, and I'm genuinely excited about
>>> using my mac now.
>>> Missy
>>>
>>> -Original Message-
>>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>>
a night and day improvement over Lion, and I'm genuinely excited about
>> using my mac now.
>> Missy
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Tanner
>> Sent:
p since for me, Mountain Lion is
>> like a night and day improvement over Lion, and I'm genuinely excited about
>> using my mac now.
>> Missy
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Beha
ge-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Tanner
> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 10:17 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: Very Disappointed with Mountain Lion
>
> I would definately agree, but if yo
inely excited about
>> using my mac now.
>> Missy
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
>> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Tanner
>> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 10:17 AM
>> To: macvisionari
Lion, and I'm genuinely excited about
> using my mac now.
> Missy
>
> -Original Message-
> From: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
> [mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of David Tanner
> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 10:17 AM
> To: macvisionaries@googlegro
[mailto:macvisionaries@googlegroups.com]
On Behalf Of David Tanner
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 10:17 AM
To: macvisionaries@googlegroups.com
Subject: Re: Very Disappointed with Mountain Lion
I would definately agree, but if you remember, last year when Lion came out
we went through this same co
into their
minds how to do everything.
Perhaps, people should get the two new books from Bookshare about Mountain
Lion and study those and learn before complaining.
- Original Message -
From: "Kawal Gucukoglu"
To:
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 3:42 AM
Subject: Re: Very Di
Hi,
Keep in mind, not everyone on list was upgrading from lion. If you were moving
from snow leopard to mountain lion, I think the upgrade is indeed significant.
As far as the busy issue you had, I think that is the exception more than the
norm for those using Safari in Mountain Lion with Voi
buggy, why did you all let the bugs come through... OK, Mister or Misses
>>>> Smarty-Pants? why don't we give you the source code to OSX and see what
>>>> you! can do! In other words, in less blunt terms, the beta testers also
>>>> are human. Just bec
So you sold your Mac and gave up on it? So what now qualifies you to know how
Mountain Lion and Safari 6 are performing?
I would say web surfing in ML is vastly improved. I have not heard Safari say
busy yet, and the rotor is turbo speed in comparison to Lion. Safari and VO
see more elements
>>> because someone is on the dev beta team does not make them infalible.
>>> They, like you and myself are human. So cut out the bashing please. I
>>> agree. It's ok to complain, but do so construtively.
>>>
>>> Chris.
>>>
>>>
; complain, but do so construtively.
>
> Chris.
>
> - Original Message - From: "Kawal Gucukoglu"
> To:
> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 4:42 AM
> Subject: Re: Very Disappointed with Mountain Lion
>
>
> Hello All.
>
> Now what I might say m
e beta testers also are human. Just
>> because someone is on the dev beta team does not make them infalible. They,
>> like you and myself are human. So cut out the bashing please. I agree.
>> It's ok to complain, but do so construtively.
>>
>> Chris.
>&
I agree with you. I love that you can easily share our concerns with the Apple
accessibility team, while that was all but impossible with JAWS. My wife and I
are on our second Macs now (changed from Macbook Pro to Macbook Air), and we
love it. My Pro has lasted twice as long as any other compute
#x27;s ok to
> complain, but do so construtively.
>
> Chris.
>
> - Original Message - From: "Kawal Gucukoglu"
> To:
> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 4:42 AM
> Subject: Re: Very Disappointed with Mountain Lion
>
>
> Hello All.
>
&g
t: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 4:42 AM
Subject: Re: Very Disappointed with Mountain Lion
Hello All.
Now what I might say may be something that people may not like but I am one
for plain speaking and will not mince my words. However, this is my
opinion.
People say that they may be disappointed wit
Hello All.
Now what I might say may be something that people may not like but I am one for
plain speaking and will not mince my words. However, this is my opinion.
People say that they may be disappointed with one thing or another and it is
their right to do so of course.
But when anything ne
Well to each their own but I prefer a screen reader doesn't crash for no
reason.
If you actually take the time to learn the Mac you will see that it easily
matches the capabilities of any windows based screen reader.
I never had anything but issues with jaws and the instability of windows in
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Been reading all these posts the last few days about how amazed
everyone is with Mountain Lion, and not sure what all the amazement
iss about.
It only took three days as I just had to use the Force Quit for
Safari, and all it took was actually trying to login to my Yahoo
Fantasy Baseball Page. I p
And when the accessible web browsing experience on the mac at least
matches windows, I'll buy it. busy busy busy, can't handel large
amounts of text, ignores this and that on the page, the entire web
thing was why I gave up on the mac thing and sold my mac mini. To do
the web on the mac you have to
Been reading all these posts the last few days about how amazed
everyone is with Mountain Lion, and not sure what all the amazement
iss about.
It only took three days as I just had to use the Force Quit for
Safari, and all it took was actually trying to login to my Yahoo
Fantasy Baseball Page. I p
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