Cheree Heppe here: Designing the architecture for a useable screen reader might be compared to a science fiction writer designing a world or universe. Wha if, though, the original architecture of a world or a screen reader required radical changes in order to keep pace with advancements unimagined in the original outlay?
Could we as users manage changes that re-mapped how keystrokes accessed function? Could a re-do of command structures be done without truly rocking the world views of the users? Could leaving a structural legacy intact, such as maybe keystrokes using three and four keys at a time, a pattern that must have sprung from the early beginnings of screen reader access, harm the future flexibility or usability of a comman structure architecture? What if the whole keystroke structure had to be re-done to make it more streamlined and to allow for new access? Could we tolerate that? Or would we be stuck in some other mode? If I could design an access model, it might allow screen gestures and tapping the way an I-device such as an IPad or IPhone does, with the aded power of the key commands and built-in features of a laptop design. Regards, Cheree Heppe Sent from my IPhone 4S On 31/07/2012, at 5:51, Kawal Gucukoglu <kawa...@me.com> wrote: > You'll agree that it is a big learning curve when you get a Mac. One will > only succeed if one puts effort in. We are our own enemies. Another thought > crossed my mind, we want our technology, we pay with it for a few days, then > when we get board or dissatified, we bash it. Human nature! This is what is > happening here! > > On 31 Jul 2012, at 01:40 PM, Chris Moore <apple.geek.ch...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> My response is simple. If you are not going to report the issues as a bug >> and are unhappy with the Mac. Then simply don't buy one, or just take your >> current one back if it is under the time limit of being able to get a full >> refund. Failing that, wipe it and stick Windows on the thing. >> >> Bye bye >> >> Chris >> On 31 Jul 2012, at 12:16, Ray Foret Jr <rfore...@att.net> wrote: >> >>> And it ain't as if there's that much to complain about really. Sure, >>> sometimes VO won't respond to pressing VO+space, and the time line issue; >>> but really, I think we're looking at an undercover Apple basher here. You >>> know the type. They get a Mac, give themselves perhaps a few days with it >>> and expect it to be a windows machine. So, when they find out it's not, >>> they not only take it back, they publicly condemn it to all their windows >>> friends. >>> >>> >>> Sincerely, >>> The Constantly Barefooted Ray!!! >>> >>> Now a very proud and happy Mac user!!! >>> >>> Skype name: >>> barefootedray >>> >>> On Jul 31, 2012, at 5:15 AM, "Christopher-Mark gilland" >>> <clgillan...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Hear ye, hear ye! >>>> >>>> I couldn't agree more. That mail had me constantly over and over again, >>>> saying? Drama, drama, drama! >>>> >>>> O, K, are there some bugs, yeah, granted I really haven't found any, but >>>> that isn't to say I won't eventually. The point is, give Apple a break >>>> for God sake, and before you accuse any beta tester saying, it's too >>>> buggy, why did you all let the bugs come through... OK, Mister or Misses >>>> Smarty-Pants? why don't we give you the source code to OSX and see what >>>> you! can do! In other words, in less blunt terms, the beta testers also >>>> are human. Just because someone is on the dev beta team does not make >>>> them infalible. They, like you and myself are human. So cut out the >>>> bashing please. I agree. It's ok to complain, but do so construtively. >>>> >>>> Chris. >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kawal Gucukoglu" <kawa...@me.com> >>>> To: <macvisionaries@googlegroups.com> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 4:42 AM >>>> Subject: Re: Very Disappointed with Mountain Lion >>>> >>>> >>>> Hello All. >>>> >>>> Now what I might say may be something that people may not like but I am >>>> one for plain speaking and will not mince my words. However, this is my >>>> opinion. >>>> >>>> People say that they may be disappointed with one thing or another and it >>>> is their right to do so of course. >>>> >>>> But when anything new is released, there is going to be bugs etc as I have >>>> been a beta tester and know how hard people work to get a product into >>>> shape. >>>> >>>> So rather than people complaining as people seem to do, why not just send >>>> your concerns to Apple Accessibility and rather than bashing a product >>>> work with them to improve a producct? It would be so positivve to do that >>>> and sit and be passive about things as everyone would make a difference. >>>> If everything was plain sailing, life would be dull. So chill and think >>>> to do something positive. >>>> >>>> Kawal. >>>> >>>> On 31 Jul 2012, at 04:41 AM, James Mannion <mannion...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> And when the accessible web browsing experience on the mac at least >>>>> matches windows, I'll buy it. busy busy busy, can't handel large >>>>> amounts of text, ignores this and that on the page, the entire web >>>>> thing was why I gave up on the mac thing and sold my mac mini. To do >>>>> the web on the mac you have to put on those rose colored glasses that >>>>> view everything from a pro Apple perspective and you can't require >>>>> that it gets the job done. >>>>> >>>>> Jim >>>>> >>>>> On 7/30/12, Brian Fischler <blindga...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> Been reading all these posts the last few days about how amazed >>>>>> everyone is with Mountain Lion, and not sure what all the amazement >>>>>> iss about. >>>>>> >>>>>> It only took three days as I just had to use the Force Quit for >>>>>> Safari, and all it took was actually trying to login to my Yahoo >>>>>> Fantasy Baseball Page. I pulled it up and first the first time ever >>>>>> got a cookie message that said my safari cookie had expired, after I >>>>>> got out of that window safari did nothing but Busy Busy Busy for the >>>>>> better part of ten minutes before I went to force quit. >>>>>> >>>>>> I already had been very unimpressed with Mountain Lion between the VO >>>>>> space bar not properly selecting items I clicked on to the features >>>>>> being very blah Seriously dictation is useless for anyone who knows >>>>>> how to type. The notification center is useless especially if you keep >>>>>> Night Owl open like I do to Tweet, and Imessage, I'm sorry but I fail >>>>>> to see the point as most of us have our Iphone sitting right next to >>>>>> us. I hate to be so negative, but considering how many people were >>>>>> bashing Lion which didn't have that many problems, I fail to see where >>>>>> the significant upgrade is. >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "MacVisionaries" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "MacVisionaries" group. >> To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "MacVisionaries" group. > To post to this group, send email to macvisionaries@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > macvisionaries+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/macvisionaries?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "MacVisionaries" group. 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